Guild Wars 2

Engineers and Mesmers are fun to play .

Engineers closest telative would be a Shammy

Mesmers, not real compare somewhere between a Mage / Warlock type thing.

Just remember NOT to run up to the NPC with the heart and click all the time, no need, just wander into areas, see what you can do " right of screen" and if complete a Heart, see the guy with heart on head ..

Do not rely on Karma armour for Runes you cannot recycle Karma stuffs.

Have fun and enjoy, and remember, no gear chase in GW2 so dont rush to 80.

ipan.4356:

Mark Katzbach.9084:

Most of the items you listed off that aren’t in this update are because they are content. This is not a content update, this is a feature pack. Content updates usually, but not exclusively, take the forum of living world updates or festivals.

You realize almost no one actually cares about that other stuff, right?

We want more content.

That’s the bottom line.

I’ll understand if you can’t deliver – but you should tell us now.

Stop giving us the runaround.

Either you can deliver more content (new maps, new dungeons, new class, new weapons, new playable race, new skills) or you cannot deliver more content.

We want an expansion, not necessarily more LS (not to say that LS should be abandoned – just that it does not substitute for the content we want).

So, that’s where we stand – either tell us more content is coming, or tell us it isn’t coming.

It’s a very simple question to answer.

While I do not agree with the level of Entitlement people seem to demand in a Pay to Buy, free to play game….. I WOULD not mind paying say $30-40 for a full expansion ala GW1 Expansions myself…….as I think would others.

I know why they do not wish to speak about things ’ in the works" as certain other MMO’s even have tried / are trying, ideas from GW2, example being the biggest MMO mentioned on their forums a month or so ago about ’Dynamic events" no longer needing to be in a group etc etc, sound familiar ?

But it does not exempt Anet from at least saying what fixes etc they are working on, plus anyone with half a brain will be able to see whom copied whom even if they DO say what is in the works !

Oogabooga.9138:

Thank you, but don’t care as it’s too little too late. The only reason for any of this is because the tag issue went viral. Now that it’s a public issue, Anet did a 180 for good PR. Nothing more, nothing less.

You had plenty of chances to communicate with the players before this and say the exact same thing. It took bad press for you to finally do anything.

A little co incidental that this flood of red also comes the same week that Blizz finally announced a date for their expansion ( altho its more like a contraction and the reason why so many have left THAT game and come to this one)

I love GW2 , but certain issues have been left too long to not mention them, prime example the Mesmer Profession where clearly half the skills do not work as intended, yet all we ever see is “Tooltip” changes. Or Traits that need much higher lvl areas for unlock lvl 30’s traits or impossible tasks in WvW ……

GuzziHero.2467:

Gregori.5807:

The above comment came because he was hammered about it after saying this:

Chris Whiteside.6102:

GuzziHero.2467:

A question for you, Chris.

Can you confirm whether or not there has been any discussion about player feedback about…

- the new trait system
- the megaserver
- roleplaying and what seems to be Anets attempt to destroy it?

Cheers!

Hi Guzzi,

I don’t want to want to derail the thread, but yes absolutely we have discussed player feedback about these areas of the game.

But seriously let’s not derail the thread.

Chris

I’m glad that something I said had an effect, in its strange little way!

It is good to finally have acceptance of our concerns.

HeHe I am glad too that someone finally looked in here ..

Thanks Chris :-)

Y’all have so little faith in Anet….. would be worse, a certain other MMO has been using ’Crabby" for the past 4 years !!

Chris Whiteside.6102:

Kohlteth.3715:

nvm, you posted after, did you visit the Trait thread so you were not derailing this one ?

Izzy is thinking about it right now.

Thanks for reminding me.

Chris

Thank you so much for visiting us, we do appreciate it no matter how much people complain, any feedback / communication is better as we know y’all are at least still around.

So on behalf of all, Thank You Chris

edited for typos

nvm, you posted after, did you visit the Trait thread so you were not derailing this one ?

Chris Whiteside.6102:

GuzziHero.2467:

A question for you, Chris.

Can you confirm whether or not there has been any discussion about player feedback about…

- the new trait system
- the megaserver
- roleplaying and what seems to be Anets attempt to destroy it?

Cheers!

Hi Guzzi,

I don’t want to want to derail the thread, but yes absolutely we have discussed player feedback about these areas of the game.

But seriously let’s not derail the thread.

Chris

Here You go Chris, so you do not derail the thead , a Link to the relevant 39 page thread for you :-

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/Game-Updates-Traits/page/38#post4318137

SolviteSekai.9816:

Kohlteth.3715:

Chris Whiteside.6102:

Lilith Ajit.6173:

Chris Whiteside.6102:

Hi All,

There have been a number of questions about when the CDI will spin up again.

The answer is shortly after our next Feature Pack is released.

Looking forward to collaborating with you all and having some awesome discussions.

Chris

Yay! Excited to spend my work days talking with you again! hehe

Really excited to get back into it again and connect with some old and new faces (-:

Chris

Yet again no comment on why no one mentions the ANET threads like Mega server and Traits threads… Does Anet have tunnel vision that kicks in when ever anyone mentions them ?

Both threads have been mentioned multiple times in here and again over looked.

Thanks for replying Chris, so CDI’s starting again, is that so y’all can claim you working with players and again ignore any feedback ?

Threads created in April BY ANET for feedback on The LAST Feature pack still lay empty and a new feature pack on the horizon……… would it not be better to look / comment on the last feature pack before steam-rolling ahead with next one ?

the traits thread has a dev response logo next to it…

I guess you arent communicating unless you say what people want to hear.

Yeah go look, page 1, the one that created it, then 39 pages of nothing……

Tman.6349:
Shivan.9438:
Apparently you don’t play MMO’s that much. In WoW, one guy was undercutting me in the Auction House on ore to the point that even if his ore sold, he was still below vendor price. You’d be surprised how far someone will go in order to keep a good farming spot hidden or to sell mats and not let people in on how good it is.
You must not play GW2 that much. If you’re selling on the TP for less than vendor value, then you’re lying because it doesn’t work that way at all. Also, TP flippers don’t work that way at all. Also, this farm isn’t a ‘secret’, obviously, because there is this thread here on the forums about it with a Dev’s response. Would you like to debate anymore silly anecdotes?

Actually I have seen many items on the TP advertising buy orders, for 1 copper above the Vendor price so that when someone buys them they are actually selling them for LESS than the vendor price after “listing fee”

Chris Whiteside.6102:

Lilith Ajit.6173:

Chris Whiteside.6102:

Hi All,

There have been a number of questions about when the CDI will spin up again.

The answer is shortly after our next Feature Pack is released.

Looking forward to collaborating with you all and having some awesome discussions.

Chris

Yay! Excited to spend my work days talking with you again! hehe

Really excited to get back into it again and connect with some old and new faces (-:

Chris

Yet again no comment on why no one mentions the ANET threads like Mega server and Traits threads… Does Anet have tunnel vision that kicks in when ever anyone mentions them ?

Both threads have been mentioned multiple times in here and again over looked.

Thanks for replying Chris, so CDI’s starting again, is that so y’all can claim you working with players and again ignore any feedback ?

Threads created in April BY ANET for feedback on The LAST Feature pack still lay empty and a new feature pack on the horizon……… would it not be better to look / comment on the last feature pack before steam-rolling ahead with next one ?

SolviteSekai.9816:

Seriously this is the 6th mmo ive played where people expected the developers to communicate with the playerbase.

Nobody does that.

It’s not just Arenanet. I mean, I’m not defending them for it.

But SWTOR, TESO, WoW, FFXIV…

None of these games have people on the forums actually explaining things or discussing stuff with people.

Want to know why?

Because official forums are filled with the vocal negative minority and there is no freaking point in talking to these people.

If he says stuff is coming, its a lie.

If he doesn’t, Arenanet doesnt care.

If they say they care, its a lie.

There’s no point “discussing” the future of the game with a giant forum full of people who secretly want it to fail just so they can say I told you so.

Actually another MMO that though is in the decline and making REALLY bad decisions right now ( which is why I am in GW2 not there) DOES have a faily active Community team, Bashiok and Nethera post quite often compared to zero here at all !

This is the new Corporate Software House nowadays, release a product then no feedback period, EA are the same, Blizzard just as bad unless its there ’ This is how you will play the game" Bioware starting to go the same way . DICE defiantely only use Twitter.

Now Anet going the same way, zero communication, seems only Bethesda are the only one left that actually communicates and their " Community team" actually do what they say they do ……..

On the subject of communication, the “Community team” seem to pick and choose, another example being the “Mesmer bug” thread where it lists 40 issues and nothing from anyone about any progress, that is a whole profession basically unplayable the way it is supposed to be right there and no communication on an important subject yet someone jumped right on the Fix for the Orr fail champ train !

Devs posting is rare but appreciated,

Community team is ABSENT most of the time, example being the 39 page Trait thread that has zero response since it was Merged to get feedback, That could be why people are puppied off thinking Anet are not listening along with the ONLY flow of info being anywhere BUT your own official forums , ex Twitter etc etc …

Sethren.8472:

I would have to heartily agree with those saying that recycled content would just add more ammunition in your kitten nal.

For example, Blizzard Entertainment is notorious for “recycling old content” (ie, how many times did the players have to kill Onyxia? Three?). Players complain that there’s nothing new. Now ANet is keeping things fresh in the game room, and there are complaints for wanting old content. It’s one of those “kittened if you do, and kittened if you don’t” situations.

On Scarlet: in other MMOs, players would complain that their actions had no real meaning because the big baddie just respawned. Well, ANet actually made that kill matter, and you’re complaining. See the issue? Gripe if they do, and gripe if they don’t. Why not save yourself a great deal of frustration, and relax. Enjoy the ride, and be content with what you have. Then, when new stuff does come, you’ll have that same excitement that you had when the “old” content was new.

Level another toon, and join a different order. See the story from a different point of view. There’s a bunch of stuff to do. Or take a break. Relax

I understand what you are saying, but in that same vein, why keep the PS then ? Zaitan is gone, and it was BEFORE Scarlet so why keep it ?

I think they should really make LS1 available to replay for those that didnt get the chance, esp as people like Me, who started after LS1 have no idea who these Lesbian hero’s are ?

What happened to Eir and Zojja and Rytlock etc etc, why do we have this other band of misfits ?

see what I mean, we new people jump from PS to LS2 and have no connection.

Also replaying the PS but changing choices or unlocking the other Factions / orders would be good, especially as making new toons to do the other 2 orders with this Puppyed up new trait system is so not happening !!

misterman.1530:

This is insane. Am a level 35 thief. To unlock the UnCatchable, which is in the first group of traits under Trickery, I have to either pay silver and 2 skill points OR complete a level 59 Personal Story chapter (Retribution). Why roll new characters if it’s that much a pain in the butt? This is ridiculous. Is Anet even listening?

I would guess not since not one single RED post that they are even listening

and of course not changing backbone provider from Level3 dont help when they re route all traffic from USA through Europe then back to USA causing the lag most people see.

DeWolfe.2174:

Vol.7601:

What’s stopping me from forming a troll guild with the sole purpose of PK’ing newbies in Queensdale?

Because I have faith that good players far outweigh the grievers. And, please do create a guild and consolidate all the bad players (Not that you are). Either way, it then brings GvG to PvE! Which, I’m really surprised you figured that out so fast, GJ.

Either way, the game is going ever further down hill. When 1 or 2 people can derail what 40+ players are doing, it’s not a good design. I thought Anet would learn but, they just keep enabling grieving.

LOL omg this idea is like a WoW PvP server is now, organised Ganking, no other word for it …. and belongs in WoW Not GW2

Which is funny when they kepe merging other threads into this one, is it to just hide the criticism in one place ? Maybe everyone should post on reddit and G4 and IGN and everywhere where it cant be suppressed ?

wilhemmina.1054:

Hi everyone! I’ve been playing GW2 in my old computer and I have never had problems until I bought my new gamer PC. It works with Windows 8.1. The only thing I have not changed is my nvidia GTX 660. GW2 is constantly crashing. Specially when I go in WvW. I’ve been investigating and the last post has been written 5 months ago. I have installed every driver, I have uploaded the nvidia drivers and I still have problems. The components of my pc are fully compatible and I don’t understand why the game keeps crashing. Windows 8.1 is sold everywhere and the game should be compatible with it. What can I do? I need help, please!

I would check your PC specs, I have been playing GW2 on Win 8.1 since February, I have a GTX 650 myself, a lesser card, so cant be that. Check drivers, and check memory oh and whatever you do, set power settings on your dektop to “High performance” Win 8 has a bug where ’Balanced" will make your HD hang and slow right down !!

This belongs as a sticky

If ya’’ gathered there as many as posisble, then danced and youtubed it, it could go viral and get publicity for SAB ?

belongs on page 1 requesting sticky

From the Blog :-

Mesmer

The mesmer has seen adjustments in a few areas. For this update, we’re looking at improving multiple traits, utility skills, weapon skills, and illusions. We’ve taken a look at some of the new grandmaster traits and improved upon their original implementation. We’ve altered the scepter a bit, pushing it more toward the condition role we would like it to have. In addition, you’ll see some awesome improvements to offensive mantras and a rework of the Mimic skill, which will now copy all boons on your target to yourself.

great so mesmer going to be MORE Condition focused, absolutely fabulous IF THE PUPPY GAME HAD A REASON FOR CONDITION.

Most of the puppy fights / champs etc cond dmg has no purpose it seems to be all about the DPS !

and wtf is the purpose of balance changes when most of the puppy skills do not work ( see List of 40 skill issues in Bug Forum)

Just My 2 cents on the blog post……..

Becka Williams.4978:

sMihaly.1492:

@Becka
My favovite part of the game was WvW. sPvP could be enjoyable too. But … many offtopic reasons.
You said well, we are bored, and we want to play the hell out of SAB.

Then you’d play the hell out if, and be bored. Lemme ask you a question. Suppose anet had made SAB permanent last September. Would you still be playing it, a year on? Would you be asking anet to add world 3? Would you be complaining you were bored? I bet you would be.

No more than other stuff that has not changed in 2 years I guess ?

nearlight.3064:

Hello all,

I sent in a ticket and the support person said the issue would require a bit of additional investigation. The person escalated my ticket for further asisstance.

So they didn’t dismiss it immediately for sure, so I’ll report back here when I have a final answer.

Thats the same response I got when I asked to swap My bone pick for the Sprocket one when they gave no warning that it was coming on sale the week after… Escalated then a huge “Not a chance we do not care!” so I would not hold your breath……. Funny how Anet has no customer service number eh ? everything is ticket/online only

OOh lookies, page 38 and STILL no comment by Anet on a thread they merged t get feedback, still only one way feedback, not even a " We are working on what y’al said" nada !

Speaks volumes the silence we see here from Anet ……

It would not be so bad if the kitten crystals lasted longer, so annoying getting half way up and the puppy thing runs out. IF they made them last longer would be so much better !

Heck if Blizz can refund pre-orders of WoD in WoW because of no flight, I am sure Anet can refund $10 for a coin that people cannot use !

Unless they would relish the really bad press they could get when annoyed players stop posting here and start posting on forums they do not control, like G4 and IGN where publicity will get out and GW2 will not gain any new players ..

Sometimes negative press is not such a good thing ……..

Lets not even mention the whole Trait Fiasco !!

On a related topic, isn’t one of the Trait Unlocks locked behind an event that HAS to fail ?

I am sure I remember it being so ( not at home so cant look right now)

If your guild is on a diff server you wont have access to their main guild bank.

And if you were able to be on same server, anything you put in, anyone else can remove unless that particular thing is account bound to you ( which I do not think you actually can put in there anyways)

Also watch that you are not in a guild where they let you put stuff in, but not take back out. seen that happen.

Taygus.4571:

Kohlteth.3715:

Does anyone else find it ironic that to unlock the Trait that halves falling damage, you have to do Obsidian Sanctum , the JP where it seems easier to fall than any other (especially where it goes pitch black) ?

If you’re on AG, I do obby sanctum often enough with my mesmer and will port guildies and such to the end.
(that goes for anyone, if you’re Aurora Glade, add me in game..and I can message you when I plan to do obby sanctum next. )

Just be glad it’s not aetherblade jp :P …..

Yeah lol, I so wish I could go back and make My Norn smaller, some JP just are so NOT made for Large Norn or Charr to do without a major hassle !!!

How about … Kitten puppy osterich llama NO !!!

I can see it now, every 7-12 yr old yelling and screaming in my ear with pre pubescent wailing from now to kingdom come, think Clone of Duty on steroids !

Does anyone else find it ironic that to unlock the Trait that halves falling damage, you have to do Obsidian Sanctum , the JP where it seems easier to fall than any other (especially where it goes pitch black) ?

37 pages on this issue !!

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/Game-Updates-Traits/

This deserves a sticky, just saying

ZudetGambeous.9573:

CrashTestAuto.9108:

Another vote for SAB. Don’t need World 3, just exactly as it was, and ideally permanent. (obviously world 3 and 4 and the red and purple SAB skins would be awesome though).

As for the people who are asking for it not to be turned on, or for no rewards… why? It’s already made. Why would you want to deny people fun just because you don’t enjoy something?

Because that’s not how the world works. “Turning it on” takes time, resources and money that are desperately needed in other parts of the game. Your request actively makes my experience worse.

Why are you trying to deny me the game that I purchased as advertised for some 8-bit mini game?

I am sure it would take like a whole week to type the code activating something already in the game !!

Morelike changing a 0 to a 1 as its already there just needs turning back on

Back on front page for whatever good that may do

Clear.8512:

Could also be a break as Anet wants to spend a few months on features and additions to add more content to the game. I would think most MMOs want to have something new on the table with WoW dropping their expansion.

I know GW2 is not exactly the same as WoW as an MMO but I would think most companies understand Blizzard has a way of dragging people away from other games.

Although I do think Blizz may have screwed the pooch this time, with no flying, lack of communication, taking things away that they promised at Blizzcon, they have been really messing up of late and the expac is morelike a “compac” taking stuff away, I do not think many will go back. Altho Anet REALLY need to fix traits and other areas of GW2 to RETAIN and maybe draw back people that they may have lost .

I still say that there are not enough areas for lvl 80’s and I do not mean the slow releasing Dry Top, I refer to the rest of the huge map that is greyed out, that you see whenever you pull up the map.

They REALLY need to uncover more, at least people exploring could stay longer…. and also need to work on WvWvW to make a lil more balanced and make travel easier, spending most of your time running to find others, and 1% ( if lucky) actually doing WvWvW is not conducive to retaining players……..

“Moving on!”
/15

Zardul.3952:

yeah its a very stale game at level 80.

there is no depth to this game. i play it everyday just to do the daily, so when the times comes that there is actual DEPTH to the game i got alot of laurels and gold to spend for it.

but until then its just a chore.

id like to see the following:
-City Raids
-racial Fights ( char vs Human )
-Combat mini ( pokemon type of mini game)
- more achieveable Factions ( Priory, Whisperers, Vigal are not enough)
- world pvp
- more Non racial citys. ( lions arch is the only one we have…again boring.)
-more level 80 content in low level areas.( we are stuck to a handful of 80 content)

I just left a game that had most of that ( or purported to) it was called WoW… That is why I am no longer playing that game, the gear train the endlesss ego ganking … you sound like you could be playing the wrong game if you seek all that ………

Page 37, still nothing from Anet whom merged this thread for feedback…. this feedback seems a little one way……….

Ayakaru.6583:

The next 3 are less easy, but also doable in a decent amount of time:

Duelling: an area 1.5x the size of the length of the longest distance skill a player has available
Duel ends when one player hits 1% health

Guild v Guild (and Guild Halls)

Mounts:
(don’t get me wrong here)
I AM STRICTLY AGAINST MOUNTS IN PVE
however, in WvW you get a different issue (walking 5-10 minutes before catching up to a squad if you survive the run to them)
so Mounts in WvW would be welcome with the following limitations:
1. Any form of damage removes the mount
2. Cannot mount past your own border (which will be defined by which points you control)
3. Cannot mount when hostile players are near you

Or maybe more WP in WvWvW maybe, as you are right is so soooooo annoying running 10-15 mins to catch up and then finding they are now other side of map

Fiontar.4695:

I decided to return after hearing that some people find Season 2 to be an improvement over Season 1. Giving my long break from the game and the current lack of MMOs I find worth a spit, I was ready to be open minded and see if I could recapture some of the original magic.

I log in and find this.

The tin foil hat theories gain even more credence. For what ever reason, ANet is trying to kill GW2 by any means necessary, even if it’s a death by a thousand cuts. This one cuts a bit deeper than many of the rest.

This is a massive slap in the face to people who take a break and expected ANet to keep the promise that once you’ve bought the game, you can return at any time and have access to all the non-expansion content you missed, at no extra charge. This stomps on the promise that players will not be gated from game content by pay-walls and segregated based on who has what. It’s also guaranteed to discourage new players, make it harder for current players to create friends and to provide a rude tumble in the mud for new players who do “buy to play”, only to find they have to pay extra for content they could have had for free, if only they had bought a few months earlier.

Very sad, even more so because the community that’s left could only fill six pages in response.

China has been a huge hit for GW2, but mid to long term is still uncertain. If it remains a huge hit six months from now, I’m guessing Western players and forgotten promises will become of little concern, and the game will continue to transition to the high greed, “evil” cash shop model.

We all love to see a diamond in the rough polished via hard work and talent into a brilliant gem; this is the first time I’ve ever seen MMO developers launch with the Hope Diamond and then try so hard to transmute that diamond back into a lump of coal.

How we can witness a high water mark in MMO launches and an all time low in ongoing MMO development from the same title continues to be beyond me. Einstein’s definition of insanity strangely comes to mind as I ponder this quandary.

The Who, What, When, Where and Why of it would make a compelling novel, I hope some day someone will have the guts to write it and maybe then, some of this will make some sort of twisted sense from the perspective of those who fell down a dark rabbit hole and never once looked back…

BUT you DO have the ability to replay it……. something those of us who bought the game after LS1 will probably never get to see again, I would LOVE to be able to play LS1 to actually find out who the heck Kasmeer etc actually are !

But I cant, and why is that ? Because I wasnt here when LS1 was on,. !

You missed part of LS2 , BUT Anet now allows you to be able to still play it, just costs ya , OR you could have logged in for 30 seconds in that 2 weeks and had it for free !

No pleasing some people I guess.

Being able to see the kitten cursor when in Combat ( It vanishes) and THIS so much this !

Fix the loud FIREWORKS in Harathi Hinterlands, Dredgehaunt Cliffs, etc. associated with Guild activities, that blows non-participants clear out of their seats from the other side of the zone.

VOLTCIEAGE.3029:

blakdoxa.7520:

VOLTCIEAGE.3029:

lol people are still crying about trait system . my gf was leveling her first char not so long ago and yes new trait system is great , she had motivation to unlock,do,go to places which she would skip for 99% . problem is with all crap chars from eotm but anyway if it is your alt go buy traits from vendor and dont cry . THIS SYSTEM WORKS GREAT FOR FIRST CHAR

Well for someone who is playing after Apr 15th not knowing how the previous was perfectly fine (save the free trait reset), of course.
It’s also funny that you talk about someone else’s experience rather than put out your own.

I play this game since beta . I have 4 char on 80 and in bank I have 5 scrolls(20lvl),300 tomes ( 1 lvl) and really ! I dont cry about traits and it was nice to see my gf lvling and it really works for new comers .

Hmmm ok, so explain how your gf is managing to unlock ADEPT traits meant for lvl 30-40ih, in them 50-60 zones, without getting her kitten handed to her, or the Orr ones that need large groups to unlock on events that have to fail or maybe the ones where you have to kill something in WvWvW that no one wants to kill anymore ?

That is, without fundage from you to pay the ridiculous price in G and of course Skill points she will be needing for her SKILLS while she levels up ?

I call BS !

LOL sorry, from another type of r/p where I have been an Assassin for many years:-

“Let us proceed,” he said.
“I thought you were too weak to be an Assassin,” I said.
“I was once strong enough to defy the dictates of my caste,” he said. “I was once strong enough to spare my friend, though I feared that in doing this I would myself be killed.”
“Perhaps you are the strongest of the dark-caste,” I said.
He shrugged.
“Let us see who can fight better,” I said.
“Our training is superior to yours,” he said.
“I doubt that,” I said. “But we do not get much training dropping poison into people’s drinks.”
“Assassins are not permitted poison,” he said proudly.
“I know,” I said.
“The Assassin,” he said, “is like a musician, a surgeon. The Warrior is like a butcher. He is a ravaging, bloodthirsty lout.”
“There is much to what you say,” I granted him. “But Assassins are such arid fellows. Warriors are more genial, more enthusiastic.”
“An Assassin goes in and does his job, and comes out quietly,” he said. “Warriors storm buildings and burn towers.”
“It is true that I would rather clean up after an Assassin than a Warrior,” I said.
“You are not a bad fellow for a Warrior,” he said.
“I have known worse Assassins than yourself,” I said.