Guild Wars 2

Iavra.8510:

Flamey.1430:

Kontrolle.3514:

Low-skill UW-zerglings horrible matchup,.
Gamebraking lamerbuilds and a horrible player attidude.

Might be the worsed month since release.

Gamebraking? No, you mean gamebreaking.
Attidude? No, you mean attitude.
Worsed? No, you mean worst.

You’re welcome.

I can guarantee you that Kontrolle’s skill is much better than his english ^^

Besides, UW skill generally seems a lot higher than FSP. Granted, they are a lot of D/P thieves and reg warriors around, which aren’t really fun playing against, but here’s still hoping that ArenaNet someday manages to fix these.

As long as im sober my english isnt that bad.^^
But this matchup is still horrible. I just hope that dzago wont end in the same league as UW.

Low-skill UW-zerglings horrible matchup,.
Gamebraking lamerbuilds and a horrible player attidude.

Might be the worsed month since release.

Elixir X should gives us stability and 2 other boons for 20 seconds.
Hell the other 2 boons could even be RNG i wouldnt care.

/thread

I might now dissapoint you but the following changes:

All duration stacking boons(Aegis, Fury, protection, Regeneration, Retaliation, Swiftness, and Vigor) and conditions(Blind, Burning, Chilled, Cripple, immobilze(now stacks duration), and Poison) now stack to a maximum of 5 times.

Are a pretty hard nerf to condition spec engineers because most conditions have a very short duration, poision dart volley, fumigate, our burns etc will all be hard hit by it.

The stability on elixir b is worth nothing, why? because its no stunbreake, if you ate a skull crack and use a stunbreak there will be no time to apply this stability before the next stun hits you so this elixir b changes wont change alot. It has casttime and traveltime, you will only be able to apply this elixir before the fight starts.

The only real buff i see here is for the bombs and dammmit was about time for that.
180-radius traited is a joke, a pretty bad one. Bombs without forceful explosives are complete useless its closer then melee range.. I love playing with bombs but with the close range and the very high casttime its more then difficult to use them offensive in wvw roaming, stability would have been awesome for that but sadly we have none and elixir b isnt goingt to help either, you get 125539 stuns, dazes and whatever before the elixir is in the air…

Tried hundreds of builds but this is the one i like the most and i use the same utilitys/trinkets for power builds and condition builds.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fcAQJAqel0pqb3zSyF1LJxIFde0hUUY7LSR+1/nCyF-jwBBINBkWAkwAIHqIasl1FRjVVjIqWdDTKAIWDA-e

Im happy about the really needed area increase for bombs. But throw elixir b for stability? what the? A ground target skill with high casttime and travel time?
We need some instant-cast stunbreaker+stability skill, even if its elite.

Warrior is right now the most broken noobclass in this game.
Thief has a very high skill gap compared to that.

And guys im one of the 5 biggest thief/assasin/rouge haters worldwide in every game i played (such classes dont belong to teamgames)

Best armor, most hp, best mobility, best cc, most stability, best selfhealing, best direct damage.

And people still defend this… Warriors are about to kill this game right now.
Mine is lvl 80 full asc/exo too but im realistic, this needs to be adressed.

Don Alosi.2401:

Kontrolle.3514:

Hammers, just hammers.
maybe some necros, eles or mesmers to support the hammers.
Hammers dominate WvW period.

staff+GS, I would say, but I’m a noob, so…

no problem if youre a noob, of course you can play GS+Staff but then you are one of the guys that support the hammers. Its really that simple, either you use a hammer or you support those guys with the hammers.

edit: i got both wvw-hammers full equipped myself.

lol this discussion is still ongoing?

hammers, just hammers. Rune of perplexity what? Jes they are op with hammers too.
Which side wins is determined by the amount of hammers available.

Jes its that simple….

No im not crying, i have both hammers at level 80 with exo/asc equipment.
But every single other character is suffering because there is no reasanoble stabillity source for them available.

Viking Jorun.5413:

It’s pretty insane when condition builds use this. Even with my thief who has extreme condition removal, the counter-play is tedious as hell.

No offense, but stop arguing from a thief point of view.
It wont add anything useful to the topic.

@topic:
I main engineer since bwe1 and right now i abuse this rune like there is no tomorrow.
ITs OP, everyone knows it and only fools or beginners deny that. Srsly you can build a character which main source of damage is this rune and it will work.
I would like to try some of the other new condition-damage runes but i cant. This rune is so strong that it outshines every other condition-rune available.

Warbarbie.8147:

Btw CC lock in another great problem, we see

Necro – chain fear
Warrior – chain stun
Engi – chain CC

I think a short immunity buff for CC would be great to avoid this mechanic.

Which of this classes has the most mobility, the best access to stabillity and a very short cd on AoE stun?

edit: i reported Nuorus for obvious trolling.
Srsly there is almost nothing else then warriors out there, mine is level 80 and full equipped for WvW too, i play this charracter quite often. Everyone who doesnt agree that this is the most broken class in gw2 history, then what is it?

Hammers, just hammers.
maybe some necros, eles or mesmers to support the hammers.

Dasboba.1652:

Jonathan Sharp had something interesting to say in the warrior forums….

Thanks guys!
We’re being very mindful about the way the Sigil of Para fix will hit Warriors. We’ve already got another balance patch brewing, and we’re being very careful to watch all the classes and see how they feel after we shave down the condition spam classes slightly.
As others have said, once we bring down the conditions that “hold down” some of the physical based classes, they will feel stronger. We’re aware of that!
Thanks again for the feedback!

I’m pretty certain they’re just hoping engineers switch classes so they don’t have to deal with us anymore.

this is so ridicoulus. But go ahead and kill this class finally.
I demand a high duration stabillity elite on engineers, because the current meta, what anet of course dont know, is hammers, hammers and hammers.

lol @ MonMalthias i play both, warrior and engineer and for what reason should dogged march so much better then leg-mods? Its T1 AND has additional regen for a class which has insane access to stabillity, the current strongest regeneration, the current strongest mobility, more armor, more hp, more cc and even more crazier condition builds.

So does everything has to be superior on a warrior? We are currently running all warriors in WvW and im almost the only engineer i see in WvW. But i switch more and more to warrior because its just too easy compared to my multikit engineer, which becomes more and more unplayable because all those hammers, fears and whatever.

Just an insult to every engineer:

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Dogged_March
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Leg_Mods

This one is even more laughable

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Adrenal_Health
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Backpack_Regenerator

i mean srsly anet? WTH? The warriors trait is even stronger without any adrenalin, it works always and comes for free. This is insane.

Those things and the lack of stability are the reasons why i play mainly warrior now, like the 23456547 other guys i see in WvW….

Engineer is powerful, its my main since BWE1. But some things there just drive me nuts.
I got 5 80s by now and experience with the most of them in WvW what i play most of the time. The only thing i really miss and the most urgent thing that kills me 99% of the time is the lack of stability. Playing bombs without is …. Elixir S is garbage.

that bombradius trait sucks, its just there to be annoying, without that trait you just cant use bombs, you just cant they are garbage without.

Its a full set of altruisim runes, apothekary armor an 10,0,30,20,10 spec.
Backpack regenerator, healing bombs etc.

I used a similar build before the confusion nerf in wvw but with rabid armor 4x altruism 2x water.
sometimes i use a similar one with a rifle, its 10,0,30,20,10 too but with celestial gear, Rifle, knight armor and melandru runes. My biggest problem with bombs is that forced trait in explosives, this is pure annoyance. Also i just cant play without medkit, tried that turret and i just dont like it, in such fights it gets destroyed before you can unleash the full combo.

Quaggans need a look into too, they are complete useless trash mobs
There should be an entire underwater castle, with quaggan guards and patrols, that can be upgraded for more F-UUUUU-power!

There is a reason why people like me transfered to the lowest WvW Tier, to avoid the brainless Zergfests. But this week again we got a matchup with a server 10 ranks above us, where even now at this time a giant megablob -button-1-Train overruns everything.
This is one week of ruined fun for an entire server.
This game punishes smallscale roaming in wvw enough already but a unplayable week is to much..

The old system was very solid so why was it changed in the first place?
Because someone the internet complained about it? Seriously this is the internet, im pretty sure here are even people that complain about Pizza or Sex.

IRONSKILZ.7942:

Aurora,Midnight dll injectors are some of the hacks killing the game and its easy to tell those using them.Sad thing is when you report thies players nothing happens.

Lol i googled it and im just shocked what a bunch of scum in this game is.
The first hit brought me to a forum where ~hundreds or even thousands of people are doing this. This is going to kill gw2.

clump all your men in one spot, stack might and press 1.

edit: while you move of course

Herr der Friedhoefe.2490:

Edit: LOL, at this time it would appear that RoF TOTALLY OWNS the Dzag borderland. Maybe that’s why Kontrolle is crying. All of his dudes are trying to save what’s left of EB, and our guys handed out some pay-back for the prime-time game tonight. Poor Dzags…. Pay-backs are a kitten, particularly on the last night of the matchup.

Ok guys, you totally TOTALLY OWNED, rofl
Thats a new level of embarrassment.

Devesion.5704:

Why golem rush? Ballista is much more fun ^^!

Thx to those arborstones who let me live in SM just a few seconds ago really appreciate it :P

I cant describe how embarrassed you should be for that screenshot.
Gogo! 50vs5 is not PvD!

Would be awesome to have some decent fight during primetime, but sadly you guys play for ?!?!? what exactly? Ahh the new champ-bags? World exp? Whatever idk and i will never understand this. But Nightraiding empty keeps for a imaginary ladder seems to be serious business.

radius is way too small. You are forced to take a trait and its still too small.
Even with that trait the bomb on dodge wont heal you because you dodge outof the radius.

Aberrant.6749:

Kontrolle.3514:

What build is this you guys are talking about?
GS/Hammer?

I use as always the elixir-gun and protection injektion.
If h charges you jump away with Acid bomb, tthen criple him and keep him on range.
Atm i use E-gun, traited toolkit and rocket boots. Thats a huge amount of cc and mobility. I also use melandrus runes.

But yes after all this crying warriors became really hard. Unlike necros however they are still beatable. Balance is a complete mess in 1v1 right now. I play since beta and since last patch i cant beat everything just by skill right now. If there werent rocketboots i would stop roaming on engi, the boots help me to escape from battles i cant win. A whole new experience…

This game’s balance isn’t based upon 1v1, nor does it ever look like it will be.

Thats one of the top 5 stupid answers in this forums.
Of course it is balanced about 1v1 and it has to be balanced about 1v1.
There are no roles every class can do everything, there is no trinity and the spvp mode itself forces you in 1v1 every time.

What build is this you guys are talking about?
GS/Hammer?

I use as always the elixir-gun and protection injektion.
If h charges you jump away with Acid bomb, tthen criple him and keep him on range.
Atm i use E-gun, traited toolkit and rocket boots. Thats a huge amount of cc and mobility. I also use melandrus runes.

But yes after all this crying warriors became really hard. Unlike necros however they are still beatable. Balance is a complete mess in 1v1 right now. I play since beta and since last patch i cant beat everything just by skill right now. If there werent rocketboots i would stop roaming on engi, the boots help me to escape from battles i cant win. A whole new experience…

played until this morning and now im away from the game for the next 5 days.
I hate you all because someone figured it before me, because you all may try it now except me and of course because some one had to create atopic.

; (

its quite obvious that you need the bombkit.
Slickshoes AND rocketboots cry for that.
Aoestun, aoe launch, aoe knockdown, lol even a small aoe pull with KR.

Still i prefer e-gun over slickshoes. I really have to test superspeed+rocketjump next time.
Jumping through masses of enemys laying down a couple of bombs and jumping back with the acid thing is wounderful.

one word: awesome!

Rocket boots are so amazing.
Elixir gun, my selfdesired must have, has a stunbreaker now.
There are hundreds of builds i test atm.

But so far the elixir-gun/rocketboots + anything is the best for me.
i prefer bombs for constant combomadness. I once tried a hgh build but it sucked so hard and failed because im used to have 3-4 kits.

Best patch in gw2 history.
im still calculating new builds but i cant find my perfect one :/

1. If you want to discuss WvW builds you should build WvW builds, those are with pvp gear.

2. People actually move in wvw and dont camp points.

Zepidel.5349:

Curo.2483:

When I feel this way, I play WvW. It never gets old

WvW is awful, its zergs running from objective to objective for points (for what? +5% more crafting bonus?). Theres small guild 5/10 mans all in vent running around destroying stragglers and maybe 1/50 times find a decent fight with people on their level/organization. The rewards are trash, and I honestly feel 0 pride in knowing my server played musical objectives better than another server, nor do I care since again the rewards are trash.

DAoC did tri faction open world PvP perfectly, all WAR had to do was emulate it, but it failed to do that with the same dev team behind it. And GW2 WvWvW is 100x worse than WAR’s. Comparing GW2 WvWvW to any decent games open world PvP is like comparing put-put golf to 18 holes at pebble beach.

I Agree to some point but no way in hell was WAR better in any way.
In WAR there were just zergs avoiding eachother to raid keeps, circle raiding npcs all day long for armor dropps. It was horrible unbalanced in terms of population. It failed after a couple of months for a reason.

GW2 WvW could be fixed with 1 patch, new (alot) bigger WvW maps and more reason to roam for small groups is the only way to make this work.

When i manage to capture a camp solo while 2 enemies defending it i get alot less reward then the 1 spamming lemming who zerged a fortress. Thats pathethic.

conflict.6539:

What sets you apart from the other classes?

You need to be good.
Everything else is facerolling compared to a 3-4-kit engi.

Had a “fun” fight today where i outplayed a thief so hard, every other prof would have lost. I launched, kicked, stunned, immobalized and pulled him more then a dozen times and he still could get away each time. No matter how you play if he is half decent he can get away always and if you decide to leave the battle you cant because he can catch up.

Thief is so dominant that it forces every other class to build for it. If i create WvW builds for any of my 4 80s i have to build them against thiefs. The whole spec has to be thiefprooved or its unvailable.
Its just 1 single profession here that forces me to take certain gear and traits.

Jes i like to solo roam in WvW but atm its just not fun because of just 1 single class and no its not the op bm-ranger, not the so popular staff-mesmer and surely not the D/D-ele.

Sandra Martino.3870:

Rich.1528:

Sandra Martino.3870:

Its true though, in wvw zergs i usually pop SYG (ima guardian) and wirldwind away in a zerg. Critting for 4-8k on lots of targets, dealing 80k+ damage with 1 button, killing myself in the process IF retaliation is up on the enemies lol.

Im usualy forced to abort wirling wrath before it ends :/

If you use gs – increase your hp pool, it help’s sometimes.

I run hybrid bunker guardian with 22k hp and 3.1k armor. Coupled with that i got 3.3k attack, 60% crit and 70% crit damage in zergs, i kill myself with a single WW.

Would you mind to share with us how on earth youre able to get such stats?
Or are you just trolling?

Retal is a reason to not zerg.
Thieves are a reason to not roam.

simple solution is stop playing like i did.

funny because the devs dont agree with you at least for other classes.
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Natural_Vigor

Because im the only one that is complaining?
If you could speak more then 1 language, what i highly doubt then go on and check gw2 forums around the planet. Troll.

Sororita.3465:

Kontrolle.3514:

meanwhile all other classes got huge buffs.

huh…really…

/turns to other necros
“did we?” ….“no?”….
/turns back

really…

You got a buffs really, not that awesome buffs but buffs compared to engis.
You also getting burning soon?
really…

Trolling?

na not worth a response, seeya maybe next month again.

BlackDevil.9268:

It’s not the 1v1’s being annoying or too hard, it’s the massive population of thieves at roaming that gets so annoying. 1 thief to beat in 1v1 is already hard enough due their huge advantage, not to mention 2 thieves. I’ve seen the most skill-less thieves beating me in a 1v2 just because they could easily, and I mean like really easy, keep up stealth and just spam 2 to win. It’s not that they would even have a chance beating me in 1vs1, but then again theres a 50% chance of thieves running away in 1v1 once they hit below 50% health which I still see more as a loss than a win.

I could (and actually have been) count the amount of roamers I meet in a few hours of roaming on different maps. My last count was around 70% and I even counted a few non roamers in there. It’s just amazing how easy it is for a thief to be effective in an outnumbered small scaled situation.

Couldnt agree more.
Everyone knows this but we sill have to read oneliner l2p answers fron darkshadowkittens.

edit: like the one just above me.

Piogre.2164:

KratosAngel.7289:

Jigain.8231:

digiowl.9620:

Actually, i think ANet is using physical interaction as a balancing element. Notice the rigidity of weapon skill positions, never mind that they rearranged a guardian set because it was too easy to just 1-2-3 your way down the row.

RSI should never be a tool for balance. You shouldn’t design a part of the game around the idea of causing what is considered an injury in medical terms to the players. I don’t normally criticize ANet, their staff, or how their game is designed… but if that is the case, someone is a sadistic kitten and should not be permitted to make decisions on anything that requires interaction from other humans.

Le edit: On a brighter note, I would actually be satisfied if someone at ANet just came out and said “hey guys, we realize RSI is a problem, and just wanted to let you know that until we find a better solution, you are permitted to make and use a macro that keeps using the grenade kit #1 skill while your chosen button is pressed.” That would be satisfactory. Not ideal, but good enough.

^So much this. I don’t even know if that could be legal in NA (I know that people in NA charge companies for some odd reasons so I don’t know :P).
And also, it would not be a balance around players because some players, who don’t care about their fingers’ health would spam more and more while people who care about their fingers would stop …

and the third group who buy a top-of-the-line mouse with all the number keys on the side to avoid the issue alltogether

This tool is a must have for beeing an engineer and not just for nades. Its so important that i would even say its recuirement to have success with this class.

Blood Red Arachnid.2493:

I hear skill players can rotate their camera so they throw grenades behind themselves while kiting and running, letting them kite and do decent DPS while doing so. The auto attack would ruin that.

No.
No one of the so called “skill” players you obviosly dont know has the time to use that crap skill, the damage is a joke and you have plenty of other tools to use before you use #1 fron the grenades.

8 out of 10 1v1 fights i have are against stealhtspam thieves.
Most 1vs2 i have are against 2 thives at once.
So either this game is unbalanced or its just not fun.

I know ~6 people in real live that stopped playing months ago because of this.
Im close to it because im forced to run specific builds and specifig gear just to counter 1 single class. Against every other professions its skill that decides the outcome of the battle. Against this one its gear and build.

Pure bunkers might work in lol-spvp. For the rest of the game not so much.
All builds ive posted have a good sustain with 1, 6k+ toughness.
Btw yours is incomplete without gamemode, armor and runes.

My WvW Builds:

Power build:

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fcAQFAUl0pqbHxSyF17IyoHdmotZhKUYfewWtFEC-jkCBYLBhgAgwAJBqIaslRFRjVVjIqWxAzOWIySO1eDYCBQeCA-w

Cond Build:

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fcAQJAqel0pqbn1SyF1bJxIFdW0hKUYQK0bdFVI/fKwWA-jkCBYLIINBkWAkwII5QFRjtaqIasqaER1qbY2xDRzSO1CBsYOA-w

Boon based condition (stopped playing this after last kitten nerf):

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fcAQJAqel0pqbn1SyF1LJyIFdmoFqQhJSh+lffUIXPIA-jEDBYLIINBkWAkwAhEBIHqIasFhDRr6KsqaER1qbY2xDRzSO1CBsYOA-w

Explosive: Shrapnell now has a 5 second ICD
Firearms: precise sight now has a 5 second ICD.
Inventions: Elixir infused bombs now have a 5 second ICD.
Alchemy: Cleaning formular 409 now has a 5 second ICD.
Tools: Static Discharge now has a 5 second ICD.

Tadaa the 5 changes for the engineer.
Im here since beta, thats the way the devs encouraged “build diversity” the last time.
Nerfraping decent builds IS a way to encourage people to play other builds.

Kit refinement, incedairy powder, elixir s and confusion got nerfraped so much that i cant find any words for that, meanwhile all other classes got huge buffs.

You can still do fine but you have to work twice as hard.
Best example are rangers they really hard to beat right now and all they do is spam autoattack and rampage as one while i have to pull everything of and dance through kits like mad. Balance is a mess.

Just to get this straight, you guys talking about elitism and PvE?
I mean really? This sounds paradox?

then guys why to hell asked you for this mess? I never understood, you got bored fighting the same enemys over and over? lol There a games where you enemys never change and this for jears. So be careful what you wish for. Did anyone really belived that this matchup change will be any good? Srsly?