Guild Wars 2

Halcyon.7352:

This almost makes up for how ridiculous the overall set looks. Almost.

Still not getting it, as someone who mains Charr characters.

Really? I mean I get not liking it… or getting it. But as a Charr main you’ve got to be happy that there was an armor designer who gave some kittens about Charr and gave their male outfit a totally unique feature. That’s never happened since the beginning of the game.

LanfearShadowflame.3189:

Rouven.7409:

I’d assume the OP is talking about the new ancestral outfit.

I was trying not to assume, but highly likely.

I don’t see what the freaking uproar is (except with female charr and asura, maybe). This is rather tastefully done outfit. Yes, it shows cleavage, gods forbid a set has any sexuality.

I can’t see it with Asura as it is more conservative than most outfits on 5 year Olds these days.

phys.7689:

Beldin.5498:

Draknar.5748:

That aside, considering gems are purchasable which can be instantly converted to gold, the whole premise of “newly generated money” via dungeons being a bad thing is rendered completely moot. In half a minute I can spend $10.00 at the gemstore and convert that to ~70g.

Totally wrong .. the gold is not generated out of thin air, you just get the gold that some other people pay to buy gems, and even there a part of that gold is removed from the economy.

actually, it is generated out of thin air. however, there is an equation that decides how much to take out of the market when someone wants to go from gold>gems.

there is no gold in fort knox

there is no actual gem bank. If there was, one wouldnt be able to buy gold at the launch of the game. and they would have issues whenever the current balance of gems and gold buying was out of wack.

So yes, they can make money out of thin air, but some is destroyed whenever people decide to buy gems with gold. Which is doing more? i really have no idea, perhaps the equation balances it pretty well, perhaps not.

This is what I thought… but mtpelion has some good arguments

IndigoSundown.5419:

I propose adding Lilith’s corollary to Godwin’s Law. “As an online discussion about GW2 dungeons and stacking grows longer, the probability of a example involving the AC Spider Queen approaches.”

Plausibly an undeniable law of nature.

mtpelion.4562:

Lilith Ajit.6173:

mtpelion.4562:

Lilith Ajit.6173:

Beldin.5498:

Draknar.5748:

That aside, considering gems are purchasable which can be instantly converted to gold, the whole premise of “newly generated money” via dungeons being a bad thing is rendered completely moot. In half a minute I can spend $10.00 at the gemstore and convert that to ~70g.

Totally wrong .. the gold is not generated out of thin air, you just get the gold that some other people pay to buy gems, and even there a part of that gold is removed from the economy.

You have it backwards.

Beldin is most likely 100% correct (I caveat as we don’t know the full coding/operation of the system but can infer it based on ArenaNet explanations and the historical movement of the exchange rate). All gem to gold conversions utilize gold that was created by players in the past and traded in for gems in the past. The only thing that is created out of thin air as part of the transaction is gems (when real money is used to acquire them). Once you have gems, you can trade them for a portion of the pool of gold that other players had previously traded for gems.

I was pretty sure I saw the BLTC forum frequenters say that the gems being bought for gold were gems provided by the people who converted gems to gold, and that the more people who use RL money for gold the lower the gold to gem rate becomes.

I do not know for sure but I did think they did.

All gold is created by the players when they do things that reward gold.
All gems are created by ArenaNet when players buy them with cash.
All gold to gem conversions take existing gold out of the player’s bank and put it on the exchange and remove some number of gems from the exchange and add them to the player’s bank.
All gem to gold conversions take existing gems out of the player’s bank and put them on the exchange and remove some number of gold from the exchange and add it to the player’s bank.

I believe that is what Beldin was referring to. Using your credit card does not create any coins. It creates gems which can be traded for coins.

See if your 2 top points are true, no one could initiate the gem to gold gold to gem first.

Been there. :/

Ohh I love you Tarnished coast. My home forever.

mtpelion.4562:

Lilith Ajit.6173:

Beldin.5498:

Draknar.5748:

That aside, considering gems are purchasable which can be instantly converted to gold, the whole premise of “newly generated money” via dungeons being a bad thing is rendered completely moot. In half a minute I can spend $10.00 at the gemstore and convert that to ~70g.

Totally wrong .. the gold is not generated out of thin air, you just get the gold that some other people pay to buy gems, and even there a part of that gold is removed from the economy.

You have it backwards.

Beldin is most likely 100% correct (I caveat as we don’t know the full coding/operation of the system but can infer it based on ArenaNet explanations and the historical movement of the exchange rate). All gem to gold conversions utilize gold that was created by players in the past and traded in for gems in the past. The only thing that is created out of thin air as part of the transaction is gems (when real money is used to acquire them). Once you have gems, you can trade them for a portion of the pool of gold that other players had previously traded for gems.

I was pretty sure I saw the BLTC forum frequenters say that the gems being bought for gold were gems provided by the people who converted gems to gold, and that the more people who use RL money for gold the lower the gold to gem rate becomes.

I do not know for sure but I did think they did.

My ears are all I need to attract the fellas.

:)

^ Especially when it is likely you’re speaking with your peers.

Of course I don’t mind. Lol NOWAITITSPATENTED.

Rouven.7409:

I like the dragon a la “fox stola” for the female charr version.

Otherwise there is this conundrum, first asura and charr do not have female armour versions. The physiology is different from other humanoid creatures and Anet decides (maybe?) to try something new.

We seem to have taken the next step, there are female versions now, but they don’t really take the races into account – or do so only half way (tail accessory for male version).

Let’s hope they will go all the way in the future, so you could truly believe that an asuran tailor or charr tailor made them fit their own people.

Btw, if I look up cleavage … for this purpose it is related to breasts. No breasts, no cleavage (which is the part in between) and thus no need for a cut out in the dress.

Well sure. Wintersday outfit has a different model for males and females. This is the second one and I think it has been long awaited.

I don’t see it as a boob window. Because there are many armors which have open chest on the male armor and thus on the female Asura and Charr. It’s no more “revealing” than those. But they did make it, at least on Asura, beautiful.

Feathered chest. Basically has no cloth on the chest for a female Asura. Same with the … gladiator chest. Is that too revealing? Is that sexualizing?

Hmm.

Maybe I should do a raffle this week with a couple of the outfits as prizes.

maha.7902:

if you’re spamming skills then you clearly have never done a challenging dungeon or high level fractals, you’ll get chewed out if you just smash random weapon skills and have random utilities on.

^^ this

Yep.

Tree.3916:

Sirendor.1394:

Lilith Ajit.6173:

Bro. Pls. Watch the cleric group versus lupi with dodge unbound. Content is designed in a way that everyone can complete. It doesn’t matter how much you argue this. No one is being a zombie. It’s the cold hard facts. I can complete any dungeon with a group of Settlers. I can complete it quicker with berserkers, but the berserkers MUST know how to dodge else it will take forever due to wiping. Risk/reward. This is a problem because the dungeons are static while we’ve all been playing then for 1.5 years so we know how to run them. New players struggle still. Please learn to logic.

Fixed that for you:

Bro. Pls. Watch the zerker group versus queen spider with no dodging required. Content is designed in a way that everyone can complete it by stacking and dpsing. It doesn’t matter how much you argue this. No one is being more a zombie than you. It’s the cold hard facts. I can complete any dungeon with a group of Berserkers. I can complete it slower with other stats, but the berserkers MUST know how to stack else it will take forever due to falling asleep. No risk/huge reward. This is a problem because the dungeons are bad design while we’ve all been stacking them for 1.5 years so we know how to stack. New players struggle still. Please learn to logic.

SEE WHAT I DID THERE?

Mine makes more sense than yours.

How hard, exactly, should the first boss of the first dungeon be?

Well to him it’s the first and last dungeon he’s ever done apparently.

Beldin.5498:

Draknar.5748:

That aside, considering gems are purchasable which can be instantly converted to gold, the whole premise of “newly generated money” via dungeons being a bad thing is rendered completely moot. In half a minute I can spend $10.00 at the gemstore and convert that to ~70g.

Totally wrong .. the gold is not generated out of thin air, you just get the gold that some other people pay to buy gems, and even there a part of that gold is removed from the economy.

You have it backwards.

LOL I knew it was only a matter of time before the dungeon PHIW knowledgables decided to use spider queen. /thread

Ps. L2P and do other dungeons before spouting your obvious ignorance on the entire topic

Sirendor.1394:

Lilith Ajit.6173:

Xenon.4537:

The gear is fine.

The content being designed solely around it isn’t fine.

looks around for content designed solely for berserker gear

>.> <.<

can’t find

Come on lol… berserker gear is promoted because dungeons can be completed by stack and dps. The problem is definitely not the gear, but it definitely IS the content in the dungeon being too mind-numbing stupid.

For all those arguing otherwise… learn to think and stop being a zombie.

Bro. Pls. Watch the cleric group versus lupi with dodge unbound. Content is designed in a way that everyone can complete. It doesn’t matter how much you argue this. No one is being a zombie. It’s the cold hard facts. I can complete any dungeon with a group of Settlers. I can complete it quicker with berserkers, but the berserkers MUST know how to dodge else it will take forever due to wiping. Risk/reward. This is a problem because the dungeons are static while we’ve all been playing then for 1.5 years so we know how to run them. New players struggle still. Please learn to logic.

Iris Ng.9845:

DigitalKirin.9714:

Jeremlloyd.6837:

DigitalKirin.9714:

Iris Ng.9845:

Yep yep… swag for my sweet 18 birthday (yesterday) <3

Happy 18th, Iris!

She’s older than that but sssshhhhh

Women are as old as they say they are. o_o;;;

Edit: Unless they’re trying to jailbait you. In which case don’t believe them.

Geezzz… Jerem was just jealous because no one gave him iLight on his birthday. Speaking of jailbait, there are some underage lurking around this community :x

I would feel awful if one person gifted me something like that on my bday.

HOW EVER if the entire forum community decided to fund raise for my chaos gun on mine that would be sweet. Buahaha

I can get behind this, but I’m wondering if the reason they didn’t has to do with complications with the model of the female tail. Anyway, +1 for female tail dragons

I felt so old. Friday in TS someone told me they were 15. I felt like I had to sign off because I’d get in trouble for being a cougar or something.

Rednik.3809:

Lilith Ajit.6173:

It’s not boob cleavage. Because there’s no boob.

And yet we got boob cleavage, but nothing for tail. And we looking at tail 99% of time.

I think that is a completely valid complaint. Tail dragon is win and females should have it too.

I just think the “it’s too feminine” chime made me seethe because… I just… I’ve been asking for more feminine models FOREVER.

I think outfits are amazing. 0 charges to use. Dyeable. Adorable. Usable in combat. Win.

CharrGirl.7896:

Lilith Ajit.6173:

Really? They finally make something a little feminine for female Asura and Charr and I hear complaints?

gouges own eyes out

You know, when you ad boob cleavage on two non-sexualized races who don’t even have them, one looking like a anthropomorphic cat and other like a child, it makes you wonder. How dare we complain!

It’s not boob cleavage. Because there’s no boob.

Do you have this problem with the open chest armors like feathered barbaric etc etc? No?

Okay then.

maha.7902:

Xenon.4537:

maha.7902:

Xenon.4537:

Lilith Ajit.6173:

Xenon.4537:

The gear is fine.

The content being designed solely around it isn’t fine.

looks around for content designed solely for berserker gear

>.> <.<

can’t find

Open your eyes. Almost every dungeon boss can be stacked and burned down. They are just meat sacks with high health pools. It doesn’t matter if non-zerkers can kill them too. Zerker is and always will be the best way to clear that content unless Anet changes something.

Are you saying there shouldn’t be a “best” gear option?

Should we all wallow in mediocrity?

You guys need to take another look at my first post in this thread…

It’s not designed around berserker, berserker is just the most optimal. Dungeons are actually designed around people at-level in greens of whatever stat combination. Fractals are designed with exotics of any stat combination.

Exactly this.

Like I said before there’s a difference between something working best and something working. All gears work. That’s the basic truth.

Rewarded and working is different than it being the only viable option.

If your problem with it is that it’s the best gear… that’s just silly because there will ALWAYS be a best option.

Really? They finally make something a little feminine for female Asura and Charr and I hear complaints?

gouges own eyes out

Xenon.4537:

The gear is fine.

The content being designed solely around it isn’t fine.

looks around for content designed solely for berserker gear

>.> <.<

can’t find

Fixing bugged thread

Xae Isareth.1364:

Lilith Ajit.6173:

Xae Isareth.1364:

Lilith Ajit.6173:

Xae Isareth.1364:

Lilith Ajit.6173:

I can’t even believe what I just read.

Dungeon running can barely make a fraction of the profit TP players can. And you want to reduce the already limited amount of loot we can get in game? I mean the gold reward is LIMITED to once per day. You… no. Please don’t ask for the one thing in the game that gives an okay reward to be nerfed. That’s the most absurd thing I’ve ever seen on this forum. And that counts the feeling of felankor.

I’m not agreeing DG rewards are too good, in fact, rewards for beating stuff like Arah or TA Aether is horribly underwhelming.

But TP players make more money than anyone else in any MMO, because unlike PvEing, you can also make losses.

I’m not going to pretend like I know about TP flipping or whatever but what I do know is that Nerfing dungeon rewards is probably the worst idea ever. Because it’s players making gold from applying teamwork and skill to playing the actual game.

Meh. Whatever. Dumb thread is dumb.

Of course it’s dumb. But he does have a point though.. in a way.

For example, why the heck does AC3 have the same payout as Arah3. AC3 is a 15mins < faceroll where every fight consists of stack>faceroll>win or just ‘we got an ele’ and instawin, Arah3 does actually take a bit of skill.

Then Arah 3 should have a better gold reward, instead of AC having less. Those gold rewards were established too long ago. They established them when cof was farmed and the new AC was complained about. There’s the issue. The gold rewards have not kept up with the changes in the dungeons and within the community.

I’m still into the idea of giving dungeons unique tradable drops (which you have a chance to actually see dropping in this lifetime), instead of just upping the gold reward on everything, because in the famous words of our Pact Marshall: ‘(just adding more hold into the economy) won’t end well’.

Well look at the Aetherpath drops and fractal weapons. They’re highly sought after… but. Rng is just a terrible way to reward players. There has to be a static reward. But I’m all for unique drops in addition to existing gold rewards.

However… look at dungeon recipes. The right ones can make dedicated lucky dungeon runners filthy rich. So at least there are those.

Xae Isareth.1364:

Lilith Ajit.6173:

Xae Isareth.1364:

Lilith Ajit.6173:

I can’t even believe what I just read.

Dungeon running can barely make a fraction of the profit TP players can. And you want to reduce the already limited amount of loot we can get in game? I mean the gold reward is LIMITED to once per day. You… no. Please don’t ask for the one thing in the game that gives an okay reward to be nerfed. That’s the most absurd thing I’ve ever seen on this forum. And that counts the feeling of felankor.

I’m not agreeing DG rewards are too good, in fact, rewards for beating stuff like Arah or TA Aether is horribly underwhelming.

But TP players make more money than anyone else in any MMO, because unlike PvEing, you can also make losses.

I’m not going to pretend like I know about TP flipping or whatever but what I do know is that Nerfing dungeon rewards is probably the worst idea ever. Because it’s players making gold from applying teamwork and skill to playing the actual game.

Meh. Whatever. Dumb thread is dumb.

Of course it’s dumb. But he does have a point though.. in a way.

For example, why the heck does AC3 have the same payout as Arah3. AC3 is a 15mins < faceroll where every fight consists of stack>faceroll>win or just ‘we got an ele’ and instawin, Arah3 does actually take a bit of skill.

Then Arah 3 should have a better gold reward, instead of AC having less. Those gold rewards were established too long ago. They established them when cof was farmed and the new AC was complained about. There’s the issue. The gold rewards have not kept up with the changes in the dungeons and within the community.

Xae Isareth.1364:

Lilith Ajit.6173:

I can’t even believe what I just read.

Dungeon running can barely make a fraction of the profit TP players can. And you want to reduce the already limited amount of loot we can get in game? I mean the gold reward is LIMITED to once per day. You… no. Please don’t ask for the one thing in the game that gives an okay reward to be nerfed. That’s the most absurd thing I’ve ever seen on this forum. And that counts the feeling of felankor.

I’m not agreeing DG rewards are too good, in fact, rewards for beating stuff like Arah or TA Aether is horribly underwhelming.

But TP players make more money than anyone else in any MMO, because unlike PvEing, you can also make losses.

I’m not going to pretend like I know about TP flipping or whatever but what I do know is that Nerfing dungeon rewards is probably the worst idea ever. Because it’s players making gold from applying teamwork and skill to playing the actual game.

Meh. Whatever. Dumb thread is dumb.

Darkobra.6439:

Lilith Ajit.6173:

I can’t even believe what I just read.

Dungeon running can barely make a fraction of the profit TP players can. And you want to reduce the already limited amount of loot we can get in game? I mean the gold reward is LIMITED to once per day. You… no. Please don’t ask for the one thing in the game that gives an okay reward to be nerfed. That’s the most absurd thing I’ve ever seen on this forum. And that counts the feeling of felankor.

I 99% agree with that. The 1% being your ire towards Felankor!

There was also this, which I liked almost as much as Felankor.

I love the female Asura version. It’s adorable.

By the way, nice jobs so far! Jaya says hi and good luck to all!

Miku Lawrence.6329:

Windu The Forbidden One.6045:

Miku Lawrence.6329:

This is not what I wanted the Dungeon subforum to become. :’(

What could possibly be wrong with harmless topics like this?

Nothing wrong as they’re harmless you might say, just shows the lack of improvement/content in(for) dungeons.

Well, sure. We can agree on that. But even if they pay attention to dungeons I’ll still be posting these contests. I hope your issue is with all of Anet + dungeons rather than with my threads

Dual.8953:

Are there any weapon restrictions? Like am I still allowed to use two Toad King Weapons?

That is totally fine.

Adding some more reference pictures

Miku Lawrence.6329:

This is not what I wanted the Dungeon subforum to become. :’(

:/

Sorry?

D: birthday infinite light? Whattttttt?

Removed. They are week long items and they will be gone sometime within 24 hours of now.

Just wanted to let you all know, a contest is happening and this thread has a lot of amazing combos which should be entered! (Just remember that for the contest they have to be in a dungeon but that’s easy right?)
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/dungeons/Mix-and-Match-Fashion-Challenge/

Windu The Forbidden One.6045:

Lilith Ajit.6173:

I just want to remind everyone that no entry will be considered for the prizes if the armors they use have multiple pieces from the same set. If you are using the vigil chest, you cannot also use the vigil leggings. If you are using the winged gloves, you cannot use another piece of armor from that set as well.

So far things are looking great! Yay!

Oh kitten , forgot that.
I guess I will have to sit this one out then

But you have so many characters!

Surely you can come up with a combo on one of them ^^

I’d also like to point out that your armor combos in your screens do not have to be in combat. What this means is you don’t even have to waste Transmutation charges, because you can simply equip any piece of gear even if it’s a level 1 to achieve your combo.

I just want to remind everyone that no entry will be considered for the prizes if the armors they use have multiple pieces from the same set. If you are using the vigil chest, you cannot also use the vigil leggings. If you are using the winged gloves, you cannot use another piece of armor from that set as well.

So far things are looking great! Yay!

Auru Shad.7819:

Out of curiosity, if I have pieces of the same armor set equipped, but hidden, can I still enter, or would unequipping them work as well?

Hm.. good question. I’ll say that hiding or unequiping them would work but that a few points off of my scoring because the spirit of the contest is to coordinate different armors.

Laar.5476:

Question: do cultural armor tiers count separately, or is it all lumped as cultural armor?

Tiers count separately

Iris Ng.9845:

Lilith Ajit.6173:

So. My biweekly challenge has started!

in memory of the cancerous phrase “Mix n Match” I’ve decided to hold a fashion contest with the following requirements:

• Each entry must have an armor combination that does not have more than one piece of armor from the same set. (For example if you use the Phoenix coat you may not use the Phoenix boots)

-snip-

~Lilith

That is unfair!!! /throw kittens

D: why unfair?!

Amazingly swanky Charr! I love him!

Not yet but maybe I should make a character with that name.

So. My biweekly challenge has started!

in memory of the cancerous phrase “Mix n Match” I’ve decided to hold a fashion contest with the following requirements:

• Each entry must have an armor combination that does not have more than one piece of armor from the same set. (For example if you use the Phoenix coat you may not use the Phoenix boots)

The usual limitations apply:

• Must be in a dungeon
• Must be YOUR character
• May be photoshopped lightly

Additional limitations:

• one entry per account

Prizes:

First place: the gem store armor set of choice

Second place: a 25 pack of transmutation charges

Third place: a 10 pack of transmutation charges

Honorable mentions (any number of people can win this): a 5 pack of transmutation charges

Additional consideration will be given to characters who fit a theme (a noble in CM, an Asura in CoE, Sylvari in TA, etc) and for any Charr whose fashion happens to impress me. Be aware that backpieces and weapon style/colors will be counted for and against your character’s score. So regardless of how sexy your sunrise is, if it doesn’t match, don’t use it.

Contest ends June 6th. Get your mix and matches in!

~Lilith