I think all this nonsense from some BG and JQ players simply stems from the fact that a third place server it is simply better at combat. All 3 servers know that and there are enough players on both servers to even admit it.
You use the word “nonsense” to describe comments from JQ and BG players then go on to say SoR is “simply better” at combat and that everyone knows it.
KN will never overtake SoR so your lapdogs in KN will never be able to 2v1 JQ with you. Give it a rest. You guys are in third place now while sor is gaining rating. Have fun back down in tier two.
Come on Smokey. The post you quoted didn’t even deserve a response, let alone need one with an aggressively defensive tone.
I should clarify here again that the culling fix will have minimal impact on skill lag. Skill lag happens because the server too busy to process everything that’s happening (e.g. it’s at 100% CPU). The removal of culling addresses issues experienced by the client but those changes don’t really impact the skill lag situation. They are fundamentally different problems that will need different solutions.
Do you guys have some information on what is causing the higher server resource utilization? I’d have to think that there are less players in the game and/or in WvW than there were at launch, and during the first few weeks we had some servers with almost 24/7 queues, yet no regular skill lag was reported.
It just doesn’t make sense unless something you added to the game after launch is causing it (like the guesting function for example).
T1 is so funny, last two weeks SoR farms kills rather then ppt and everyone claims we are wasting our time not playing ppt game and need to drop a tier, this week SoR goes for ppt and now everyone is complaining because we apparently don’t bring the fights, and are constantly double teaming everyone forcing guilds to stop playing? I hear PvE is nice this time of the year BG.
I play with a Razer Nostromo gamepad and it really makes playing a class with a lot of skills like Eles and Engis a breeze.
The top 5 key row is F1-F4 for attunement swaps and the 5th key on the top right is my elite skill.
The middle 5 key row are my main 1-5 skills.
The bottom 4 key row are 1-4 utilities.
Thumb D-pad for movement (I strafe by holding down mouse right) and a quick scroll wheel notch forward dodges. I have other things like jump, F (for bag looting etc), voice comm, and other keys on the thumb buttons on my Razer Naga.
Not everyone is going to use these kinds of peripherals but I find them to work really well in GW2, especially for classes with lots of F-keys.
Trolliest yet funniest item that was in the game, particularly in the hands of a class with stealth. I loved the part where you and that other guy played plank tennis with the guy in downed state. So many laughs watching your video. Thanks, and RIP peg leg.
Well, they already did the blog on culling removal. I’d imagine they’re finishing up the blog on the rest of the changes, and I wouldn’t be surprised if we see it in the next couple of days.
If I remember right smokee predicted BG to lose by ~50k and considering its closer to 30k coming up to reset, I for one think the match up between BG and JQ is in a good place (even considering the few coverage gaps) I think if SoR can fill in a few gaps and gain a stronger over all presence, T1 can get closer to being “balanced”
In my opinion, it could have been 50k or more if JQ wanted it to be. I gotta give em props to be honest. They’ve done a great job at using the scoreboard and PPT trends to determine when to give it some gas and when to lay off the pedal. It would not be in JQs interest to run up the score, as it would only potentially entice more stacking to try and beat them, which would be bad for everyone.
So if you’re in a part of the world that participates in DST, reset will occur one hour later than it did last week.
Edit – I should clarify, the link is from a post when DST last ended. With DST now in effect, it’s basically the opposite of what Habib stated in his post.
I guess next time some big guilds might want to check their egos at the door before abandoning their old servers for greener pastures.
It’s funny that a lot of the guilds that left SoS was because of the jumping puzzle. They had a problem with holding the JP while maintaining a large enough lead and not holding up queues. Exactly what JQ is doing now. A lot of the less experienced guilds have no clue of the power of owning a free siege fountain that runs 24/7.
Now you have a bunch of mediocre servers due to poor guild choices combined with the decision to wipe the rankings, give the last few weeks of free transfers and then lock them all at $20, while allowing guesting which doesn’t encourage server loyalty.
You better hope the March 26 patch introduces enough fixes, culling, etc.. and adds enough to keep it interesting for the next 6 months. There really needs to be a removal of the [outmanned] option causing a lop side effect during off hours.
Is everyone ready to face reality today?
Anyone?
Nope, not ready. I get more than enough reality in my daily life. I play this game to escape that.
Yeah I’ve never understood the “JP is a flood of siege” argument either, when siege can be purchased with coin, is not that expensive, and coin being rather easy to obtain.
Your buddy Dredrum though has this illusion that KN is going to come make T1 a balanced 3 way fight. Anyone that has even been half way paying attention understands that with all servers in their current state T1 can not be a balanced 3 way fight.
I think you have to keep in mind that people have different perspectives on things. When some discuss “a balanced 3-way fight”, they may be talking about the scoreboard, for others, it may simply be a competitive PPT during THEIR prime time. I think Dred is looking at things solely from the perspective of HIS prime playtime, which happens to be SEA, and his frustrations over what is basically a difficult 1v1 vs JQ. Unless he doesn’t understand KN’s coverage shortfalls against other T1 servers, he’s not talking about the final score when he talks about “balance”.
because you know you can’t compete with JQ despite having even numbers.
I would love to see how you measured BG has “even numbers” with JQ… Are you Anet’s part-time staff? Or else it’s just a random rant without proof from same Ol’SoR.
Everyone has their own perception of the things, often skewed and influenced by their own position, myself included. Truth is, nobody really knows but Anet. My personal take on the subject, the numbers are not as even as some may think. From what I’ve observed so far, JQ is coasting, and only comes out in force when they feel it’s necessary. But again, even my views are subject to self bias and my position in the situation. Players on JQ may see things entirely different.
It was 5 min first 2 weeks or so when the week long matches stared, if I remember correct. But the dominating server got too far a head from the other after a couple of days the other just gave up. So AN changed it to 15 min instead because a lot of complaints it ruined the fun not just for the dominating server, who had none to fight, but also the other servers who saw no point in playing.
This is correct. It was the game update on September 14th, and also when the points for SM was reduced from 50 to the current 35.
Meh whatever. At least it’s some discussion going on, with points and counter points. Better than a lot of the other crap that’s been spewed forth in this thread.
Been gone 3 weeks(long time for no GW2 for me) because my wife popped out Mini-me #2 and I surf the forums to see such hostility. For shame. Miasmic not happy. You should all be ashamed of yourselves!!
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Congratulations on #2! I’d ask if you’re getting any sleep, but then I realized that you’re probably getting more sleep with the baby than you were when playing GW2.
Meh on the SoR/KN thing. 100 rating separates them, which all of us on BG know is huge between tiers. SoR is maintaining rating this week and it looks like T2 is fairly well balanced in scoring potential. Assuming the results of this week will be a rough average for future matches, neither server is going anywhere unless something changes player participation/numbers.
Each server has an end of week rating. Then going from top to bottom, the first three servers with the top three rating form a match, then the next three, and the next and so on. Within each match between three servers, the server with the highest rating is Green, second is Blue and third is Red. This is what determines the home BL and the starting area in EB.
Leaving him alive is always an option, but I personally don’t like that this is possible. There should be a mechanic where he despawns if a certain amount of time has passed and if there aren’t a certain number of friendly players in his general area. Something along those lines anyways.
By the way … FUN FACT!
If Siegerazor makes it into the tower, but you defeat the enemy siege force, repair the gate and leave him in there, he will kill the Tower Lord and solo cap the Tower. We tested it one night and the Tower cap bar was increasing when he was standing alone in the circle. I thought it was pretty funny.
At 3:35 PM, we (SoR) have about maybe 20 people in our own BL, and far as I can tell we’re outmanned on all maps. Map chat is dead, team chat is dead, TeamSpeak has maybe 10 -15 people spread across all channels.
I know we don’t have 24h coverage on this server, but I’ve rarely seen it this bad across all maps…
It’s probably just an off day. All servers have them. Also, I have a feeling that the closer we get to the March game update the less players will be motivated to participate in WvW. The logic being something along the lines of “why put in a bunch of effort this week when I can do it next week and start working towards actual rewards”.
i hear bg guilds might move to kaineng for the lack of skill/coverage on blackgate. i honestly thought they would last more than a week without imploding, again.
I haven’t heard anything about this…I really don’t get the sentiment behind this. Lack of coverage? I think we held up really well against JQ, until the very end there. The fights were amazing and fun, even those against SoR. I just don’t get why people are so hell-bent on winning. We don’t get anything valuable from it. The fun is in the game itself and I think the fights have been epic. So, here’s to hoping no one ‘bandwagons’.
Best practice is to not take these kind of posts seriously, especially given the source of the information.
I might get laughed at for saying this, but I think there is still skill involved in zerg v zerg scenarios, assuming the numbers of each zerg are relatively equal. But it’s a different kind of skill than what is normally employed in small scale or 1v1 scenarios. It’s more about overall class composition, using certain skills at the front line at the right time, and zerg movement based on a commander’s direction.
If you stared on HoD at release then you probably weren’t paying attention to WvW. HoD won every single one day match, and all of their 3 day matches. TA broke up and the server was abandoned just after the 1 week match format was implemented.
If I see shady kitten I report it. But I don’t go onto a forum with an accusation that nobody can work with. This is useless. Let us know if you get something worthwhile. >.>
It’s the best he can do. Posting guild tags or player names is against the forum rules as far as I know.
Anyways, yeah we’ll keep an eye out for Supergirl and report her like we would with anyone who appears to be breaking the rules.
Interesting that there hasn’t been a whole lot of discussion about JQ for the past 2-3 days in this thread, and then suddenly as the gap narrows, a bunch of exploitation and hacking accusations on this page, lol. JQ finishes strong…FACT. May wanna go ahead and adapt to that.
BG thinks they are good because they get a horde of players, but JQ is just a better server in general.
I’m curious about this Arrow Cart hitting the Hills Lord room though. I guess it would be easy enough to try and reproduce. If it is indeed possible to get LOS into the room without a camera angle through the tunnel it will nullify the tactic of setting up defensive siege in the room, which ain’t good.
I actually think overall JQ and BG are pretty darn close. I wouldn’t move any guilds at this point to try to “even” it out otherwise we’ll end up with what jQ was a couple weeks ago (steamrolling everything).
Overall I’d agree with this. Player participation is very fluid and driven by many different variables. Given this, you cannot always be sure of coverage vs. a particular opponent. From what I can tell, on average, JQ and BG are pretty close overall, with both servers having some advantages and disadvantages.
staying up an extra 2 hours is not a marathon, also that SF quote is from our private wvw forums, that are super lock and key care to share how you can see them?
Again, I admitted I was generalizing too much, based on putting little tidbits of things I’ve observed together. My bad. Regarding your private forums, status updates show up right on the open main site page forums page (in a box on the right side). I have no interest in anyone’s private stuff, but I like to browse around my opponents sites and see what they’re saying about the match sometimes. It adds some fun to my boring days at work. I’m totally not a stalker.
I’ve also not heard of anyone personally having a “marathon play session”, at least no one I know and no one talks about it in the TS.
Yeah sorry, I was probably generalizing too much when I said that. It came from non-specific observations and comments I’ve seen around such as “SF staying up late trying to get our late night ppt up!” and “Slight PPT lead at 3:15 AM. Nice work tonight folks.. and yeah i am still up..” Still, none of that necessarily defines a marathon, and doesn’t discount the obvious likelihood that many BG players are playing beyond their norms as well.
I certainly agree that this has been an awesome match though.
I’ve also not heard of anyone personally having a “marathon play session”, at least no one I know and no one talks about it in the TS.
Yeah sorry, I was probably generalizing too much when I said that. It came from non-specific observations and comments I’ve seen around such as “SF staying up late trying to get our late night ppt up!” and “Slight PPT lead at 3:15 AM. Nice work tonight folks.. and yeah i am still up..” Still, none of that necessarily defines a marathon, and doesn’t discount the obvious likelihood that many BG players are playing beyond their norms.
I certainly agree that this has been an awesome match though.
JQ was losing by a mile. So what is going on with Blackgate. Nobody cares now?
A mile? The peak lead BG had at any point was around 14k. What’s going on has nothing to do with Blackgate. JQ started a major push yesterday and some of their players and guilds are pulling marathon play sessions. We all care on Blackgate, but the majority of us are not going to push ourselves to the point of burnout. If that means losing the match then so be it.
I’m more familiar with the big guilds of JQ than in BG since I’ve fought most of them (or played together with them) in SOS.. I’m pretty interested on the politics of BG tbh..
Hope you enjoy yourself in [Urge]. They’re really great people.
I don’t think that’s necessarily true, nor is it if stated the other way around. Yes there are some issues between guilds, and yes our servers have a history that is bit … erm, contentious, but I would never agree that the servers on the whole hate each other. SoR’s forum warriors have gotten under my skin in the past, as I’m sure ours has there’s, but I respect their guilds and players.
