Guild Wars 2

Clockradio.3257:

This trend of blowing people’s words out of proportion needs to end, no matter what guild the person(s) are a member of.

If you are looking for “Official” guild/server statements, this is the wrong place to look.

Most of the things I hear are from friends on other servers, but even then I don’t take what they say to represent the server but its the closest you will ever get without being on that server
all servers have nice folks who deserve respect for how they treat foes and conduct themselves on the battlefield and on the forums, there are also those which shame and disgrace their server on the battlefield and on the forums
its a pity that later is more vocal than the former and tarnishes the whole server

Since the guru trolls came here, this really hasn’t been a public forum to discuss things

Jayne.9251:

Actually I have found the lag/latency pretty much the same in EU as it is here. Larger zergs equals 1 spamming lag. There was a week or so when it had massive issues, but it was on Anet’s end, they tweaked something and it fixed it for me at least.

Yeah the latency is rather close, but not enough for ANet
It was ANet decision to split EU and NA servers back in Beta Weekend 3 which has lead to all the 24/7 coverage issues until then the servers were not going to be region based

Sovereign.1093:

Welcome to our little home. >3< Please do show some manners, so we can drink tea.

I was promised cookies too, not just tea

Tribio.8531:

Well, I play WvW quite a lot, but I never noticed this.. -.-
Never too old to learn, it seems..

I don’t think that it should act like this, so it seems to be a bug, so best to bug report it and maybe make a thread in the Game Bugs section of the forums..

Just make sure you are not too vague when reporting it

otherwise we will all have to start playing ele’s until a Dev notices he is not getting wxp

Hey Mongreltmr

Your best bet is to guest to each server you are thinking of transferring to and get a feel for the server spend a few days messing around in LA and PvE
try and find a wvw guild on each server which plays during your timezone and ask some questions

any 3 of the servers you listed would suit any WvW focus player I would also add to the list FA and TC for server choices for WvW and community

I would also add that like PariahX said JQ is just fine, they have some wonderful WvW guilds and players and a strong community any WvW player or guild transferring there will do just fine

dwahvel.7356:

Reminds me of all the sor/bg t2 matchups. The match was over by the first SEA shift.
God forbid we had matchups that were still relevent by thursday. Oh well atleast theres more BG to kill now.

I thought it was due to Euro coverage, Oceanic/Sea was balanced and NA you had the advantage

now NA is closer we have the Oceanic/SEA and you have the Euro advantage

dwahvel.7356:

Give me a name of a SEA guild that stopped playing for us within the past month. I’d really like to hear.

That was the pve/fairweather players.

There are a few SoR commanders and players who are unable to play due to connection issues which have already been mentioned in the thread, which then changes the dynamics of the fights

the result is the same fewer numbers on SoR, combined with the fairweather players turning up less frequent results in a decreased ppt overall

hurry up and get those connections sorted :P

Sardonia.8196:

If I look back at the scores during my time zone, which is central US, BG starts ticking for 300-450 between 1:00 AM all the way to around 4:00PM. That is 16 hours right there. The remainder goes to SoR.

The scores during NA time have little to nothing to do with the score during Oceanic/SEA, yes thats 15 hours of solid ppt gain, but thats not due to Oceanic/SEA
if your NA decided to wake up early to fight during SEA how is it our problem that they were not available to do battle during their regular NA time

for BG to be ticking at 300+ during mid NA is an abnormality, I love our NA guilds on BG but they have to contend with full upgraded keeps due to SoR Euro coverage and the flow on into East Coast NA time, if SoR were unable to gain that advantage and then had a decreased participation that could explain the 16 hour ppt but you can not say it due to stacking Oceanic/SEA, its only 8-10 hours of a day

honestly if you look at the ppt average gains blackgate ticking for 16 hours at 300+ is not the norm and I doubt that we will continue to see it

and to be honest I wouldn’t like to continue seeing it, its not good for balance or fun for anyone

Sardonia.8196:

Would not really matter if they closed any gap or not. When BG can gain 15K over 16 hours and SoR may be able to get 5K of that back during late EU and NA. You do the math.

BG complained about SoR stacking EU and upgrading everything for NA. What do you think happens during the Oceaninc and SEA times on BG when they can tick for 400+.

Anyways, i really do not care who wins or loses, as long as I can have fun. I just think it is funny that BG complaines when SoR ticks at 300 for 8 hours, while they tick at 400+ for 16 hours.

Im not quiet sure if you are serious or not, please take a look at a map to see the timezones Oceanic and SEA are 3 hours apart in terms of starting times, which I agree BG do gain a substantial lead but they total about 8-10 hours in a 24 hour day the other 16-14 hours are usually divided into Euro and NA (east coast then west coast)

SoR have the advantage during Euro and East coast NA

I think West coast is about the same but im not 100% as i do not play during those times

yes we do have some SEA guilds who’s numbers bleeds into Euro time, but that is no different to NA bleeding into Oceanic or Euro into NA

anyway thx to all the small group fights tonight from DB and SoR, its a pity when either or us get wiped due to zergs but we all know it happens, look forward to some more over the next few days

and Fannwong you are a tribute to your server, and its always a pleasure to fight against a noble foe such as you

Hawkeye.4698:

All I gotta say is,

Can’t wait for the huge update to WvW so it can ruin all your stacking, enjoy it while it lasts.

Don’t hold your breath, and i mean that seriously

I would love to see a WvW update which helps break up the zerg meta

but I wouldn’t hold my breath for a huge WvW update anytime let alone soon, you will probably pass-out then find yourself on SoR… and most likely in TW or Choo :P

GivaBack.9328:

SoR,

Can you please introduce your new SEA guilds (for example GC), where are they from and how big?

Thanks!

Just wait til the end of the current match they will announce all the NA, SEA and EU guilds they recruited this week during next weeks matchup

Kaidengaran.3528:

In relation to the match, it’s pretty awesome that 1-2 days off reset the scores are neck and neck. Despite the ‘staleness’ of the same opponents week after week, at least our contests are really close and not blowouts.

Yeap the matchup has been fun so far

SoR great work at pulling back the lead that BG had from the weekend, and nice to see some guilds outside of their usual timezones (gave those who normally dont fight you a chance to see what you were like)

JQ, always love the fights which JQ brings not sure if I would still be playing if it wasnt for Waha and ATM n FOO and the great fights they bring night after night, I just wish you grabbed afew EU guilds to balance out the servers abit more

best of luck to all servers in the next few days, and nobody go slacking off to try and recruit more guilds, the only server which needs them is JQ

Jahn.7019:

Honestly, any un-informed player will look at the score and see that the tier is pretty balanced.

fixed that for you :P

you only need to look at millenium to see this

when any server scores more than double the ppt of the two other servers combined it is not good for the tier, yes the overall scores are close atm but it doesn’t look like it will get much closer, rather the scores will blow out from here as coverage takes over

good luck whatever server you folks choose to transfer to glittergirl

BG could use some Euro coverage, but are strong during oceanic/sea
JQ could also use Euro and oceanic but they are strongest during sea
SoR could use oceanic and sea but have the strongest Euro coverage

personally i would love to see you on TC,FA,SoS or DB to help create another 4th viable tier 1 contender and perhaps further recruit some EU transfers to NA servers

but send some untagged people to the servers you are thinking of transferring and get a feel for each server

best of luck

Azure.8412:

Tarkus.4109:

Azure.8412:

IRON has to fight both ATM and MERC at the same time and am trying to hold out as much as possible. Massive props to IRON. Intense stuff. Great fights all round!

Its been a fun fight so far, we just thought it would be fair to use your own merchant and food tray a few times as a gesture of good will

You gotta give us some rest. Its tough bouncing around with ATM and MERC smashing through our stuff. We need to hop all over the place to handle you guys while being supply starved. ATM are blocking us on the south, while MERC are destroying our stuff on inner. Its so exhausting.

Dont lie to me, you love it

it has been a great fight night in JQBL or better put, Sor’s Bay in JQBL
every inner and outer gate is down very few siege anywhere, just bodies smashing together, thx for the bags and i hope the ones i dropped have precursors

its a pity the Anet server is dying, quick replace the hamster

Kryyg.8576:

That Blackgate spy guy is the same dude that destroyed almost 10 of our golems out of garri, just kept running them off a cliff.

make sure to report him

and pm me his account name so i can pass it on to the blackgate guilds to report him too

and like it was said before, i dont think anyone on BG is stupid enough to have a name like that

Sophtspoken.9062:

love how Bg has to send 50ish people with and omega to take a t1 keep from around 15 people, because those said 15 people pushed back 30 of them even though that had 3 acs on us, real classy guys, I will restate again once zergs are more easily defendable against BG will be nothing, o and did I mention they had to send another 30ish people to jerr as a diversion while their 50 went for the keep, so in all it took 80ish people with an omega to take an unguarded keep

Im sorry you feel that BG should take it easy on you

15 people can defend a keep from 80, correct siege placement and afew people willing to bait them can do wonders

and sending 30 people to a tower as a diversion, all it is doing is making you chose between a tower or a keep

I still fondly remember wiping the Foo map zerg with about 15 people, all but 5 people were on siege and those people were incharge of slowing and crippling the zerg as it went through a choke so those on the siege could rain death, kitten that video is epic :P

yes numbers are with BG for this fight but learning to fight outmanned is one of the best things any server can learn and there is no easy way to learn it

CrAzY.3275:

Way too much try hard from BG. Just killing any and all form of small group roaming… Everyone else just wants to kill doors all day tho -.-

There are a number of small roaming groups on BG too, numbers will vary from 2 -15 but are usually around the 5-10 mark

usually you will find us around camps behind enemy lines and we always welcome small skirmishes, and yeah it sucks when a zerg smashes into you but unfortunately its going to happen especially when they are looking for supply

salluks.6017:

When IRON was looking to transfer, 4 servers including DB were scouted and , at the time BG was actually dominating and SOR was 3rd and hadn’t won a single game in tier 1, i dont recall BG saying no to IRON at the time.

maybe try recruiting wvw guilds rather than PVX guilds for a change.

SOR got 1 guild and BG has got 6-8 guilds including WM,BT. if u still don’t manage to be competitive, rather than recruiting more and more guilds, maybe look at the core problem?

Actually BG did say no to IRON, they were told that any move to tier 1 would unbalance the tier and were advised to go to a tier 2 server such as TC, DB or FA, they were told the numbers of euro players on BG and JQ, and there would be not be much opposition to there numbers and that current euro timezone scores were a result of SEA guilds staying up late, IRON were told if they chose to move to BG we would do what we could to assist them but our recommendation was to go to tier 2

JQ unfortunately looks less attractive to transfers due to how dominate they have been in tier 1, the fact that a few guilds have left them hasn’t quiet filtered through and JQ could use some transfers, but I doubt that the SEA timezone is where they need their recruits

Israel.7056:

Kryyg.8576:

You got us all curious now, what does that even mean?

There seems to be a widely held set of beliefs about what is the right way to play this game and it seems like many of them won’t diverge from those beliefs even if it means they might lose.

Like I’ve heard many of the say on TS that they won’t help guilds transfer over for example. A lot of them talk about balancing the tier out instead of dominating it.

I’ve even heard some of the guild leaders say that they’ve turned away guilds that were interested in transferring just because they thought it might unbalance the tier.

I never really heard anyone on BG get overly concerned about that sort of thing.

I also don’t see as many guilds put in big overtime like I did on BG.

Israel mate not sure how long you were apart of BG or who you were speaking to so im not sure if you remember Laylyn, the person from haunt who was trying to balance out 6 -8 servers just before Anet decided to end free transfers

I think we all know what happened during free transfer month

we were telling transfers not to come to BG, JQ, SoS, SoR but go to TC or CD even yaks (i think they were the next strongest servers)

Laylyn has since given up trying as no other server was being honest enough to spread out the transfers, plus being disheartened about the transfers stacking on 2 servers again (plus i think busy with RL stuff, correct me if im wrong Laylyn)

now that SoR are winning of course they are telling transfers to go to another server and I applaud them doing so, I don’t think anyone wants a superstacked server we can see how well that worked out in the EU matchups

Anet should just release monthly average WvW populations,
NA average pop
Oceanic/Sea average pop
Euro average pop

help players make an informed decision on where they want to transfer to, and when a guild chooses to transfer they can do it without unbalancing the servers

I would say we are all disappointed but I am rather relieved that Anet found a bug and are fixing it rather than releasing it and then us finding the bug

Devon did the right thing letting us know as soon as they found out it wouldn’t be ready for the next weeks matchup

but still a disappointment

Guardian is pretty much the default Commander, Warrior, Necro and Ele can also do well, I dont know of many engi, thief, ranger or mesmer commanders but that’s not to say they cannot work they are just not as common

also it depends on how you want to command and what type of group you are running with

I would very strongly recommend against running a berserker build on a commander as that icon will make you an even bigger target, alot of folks love nothing better than stalling a group by taking out the person with the commander icon

Jayne.9251:

Lol, well thanks for waving at me and bowing

You realize I’m going to stalk you now? Lol.

Don’t you stalk everyone anyway Jayne :P

welcome to necro minion AI

actually they probably could make it work in upper tiers

if red or blue server take a green objective they get a flat bonus to ppt like when you kill a yak say 5-10 points, and that is for any objective owned by green, making green think harder about capping points which they clearly cannot defend

for those servers with more organized guilds it just adds another layer to the meta like for yaks

for lower tiers with less organized guilds or servers with a more militia heavy server this would help to direct them to attack green more

with the more random matchups being introduced the possibility for a green server smashing less populated servers is increased

overall it could help bring scores closer together

it could also be modified so that it is a debuff the server who is currently leading gets rather than just green server all the time, so that it can switch to another server who has taken the lead during the match

make sure you are not in another commanders squad as if you are in one persons squad

there is also an issue with commanders pin not showing if you do not zone in to WvW with it up

hope this helps

isnt that the fire scepter skill, which just needs a target and not LOS

kitten all you guys PvDooring :P

pot.6805:

Caedus.6571:

Go to BG! Then wilt away.

You seem obsessed with BG.

He’s just jelly

best of luck with what ever server you guys choose to transfer to, my advice it to send a few scouts to potential servers (do not rep for RE) and get a feel for what the server is like and if it meets your guild requirements

oxide.8324:

Well BG did come first the two weeks after RISE, WM and MEOW (think they are dead now, haven’t seen them in WvW for a while) transferred.

The reason why SoR climbed to first is the coverage IRON provides, enabling SoR to control the EU timezone in addition to NA (i.e. 2/3 of every day instead of 1/3 like they used to).

WM n MEOW and RISE are all still kicking along on BG, but I dont think people understand that WM are not the 100 man zerg from SBI days, still its a blast having them here on BG and fighting with them instead of against them

and even if you do split the game into 4 timezones NA is 8 hours Oceanic is 5 Sea/Asian is 5 and Euro is 6, still gives SoR a 2/3 coverage advantage

snownow.9352:

Neuromancer.2148:

Avenge.1478:

Incoming movement

BG: WM, RISE, Meow, MERC, ND, BT
Result: 3rd place

SoR: Iron
Result: 1st place

You can say iron “carries” or whatever, but even when you’ve consumed 6 other guilds you still struggled to place 2nd.

Come now. We did receive transfers but don’t whitewash your own!

Remember NYS, AFS, HIRE that make up most of your SEA? What about all the SBI guilds you absorbed as it crashed and burned? I don’t even remember most of those names. These transfers all happened around the same time period. Let’s not pretend that the super servers are not all the same in that they needed an infusion of new players to help them get to where they are.

Enough with the revisionist history please, SOR. There’s really nothing to be ashamed of.

Edit: how could I forget TSYM ?

in Asia time, we [SAHP] and [NYS] from SBI came to SOR about 4 month ago.
(I think [TSYM] and [HIRE] was join on same time ? they play little early, so I saw them less.)

at that time, we only had about 10-15ppl, NYS about 20-25. and that time, SOR’s asia time (you called SEAtime right ?) is almost empty.

NA guilds need get up early to cover SEA time, or need play until 3-4am to cover oceanic time.
I usually saw [CHOO] and [OCX][SEC] in our time, but we not have much ppl.

at that time, SAHP even not a main wvw guild, our member only have 2-3 hours can play in game every day, NYS same too , their PVE members more than WVW.

[AFS] come to SOR about 1~2 month ago. they love defend bl, that’s really helpful. so much thanks to them, they did great job.

every night, we started from + 50 ~ + 100, and happy we no let the ppt become zero LOL.
I brush my teeth before going to bed ,watching PPT gone (with my sieges T_T) every day.

And now, [IRON]come to SOR, we can sleep on time.

We have considered giving up, when we always be wiped by huge zerg, lost all of keep every night, login and saw enemy T3 keep on SOR bl.

But NA guilds gave us a lot of support.
Special thanks to INDO papa , he always give us encouragement, told us don’t care about ppt.
and thanks to FEAR’s friends teach us how to play wvw.

Yes, we need more people join wvw, but we also need strong community to make every member feel we are a family.

I have very sad to leave the original home SBI, now I’m grateful I joined the new home SOR.

(my god…I never type so many english since I left school. Hope my english can be understand lol)

Your English is fine snownow

The point Neuromancer was trying to make was SoR got transfers, BG got transfers, JQ got transfers….. everyone gets transfers

SoR and JQ got most of there transfers when the free transfers were about to end, mainly from SBI and IoJ where as BG got most of their guilds more recently with SoS and Kaineng

and the wvw population would be around the same on all servers, with SoR having an advantage during NA and Euro while JQ have their Sea numbers and BG has Oceanic and Sea

best of luck to all who are fighting against superior numbers, I hope you have fun and your loot bags are chests

morrolan.9608:

SleepingDragon.1596:

SOR has the highest % of zergs and wvw players. You cannot escape the fact that large guilds like Tsym that built up from SOS and large zergie guild like Iron from EU side added to SOR to help build their already massive zergs.

All 3 T1 servers zerg, in fact the times I play (oceanic) BG is far more likely to be zerging than SOR.

I agree every server zergs, but not every server zergs all maps at the same time, that BG zerg you are talking about is used to counter Foo as the 10-15 man teams we were running would get crushed when waha and his 60 or so would golem rush everything

and SoR zerg during that time, its just your zerg is smaller cos you have less numbers compared to BG n JQ during that time

but props for going out there against superior numbers I know what thats like, just go out and make sure you and your mates are having fun

didnt Anet tell you the optimized code is when more than 40 players from the same team are near each other the game kicks them til that numbers reaches 40 :P

that way they could reduce skill lag and deal with server zerging at the same time

Godsend.3815:

sostronk.8167:

SOR, its great you got a chance to win now. But don’t gloat too much. Your not making more friends by being bad winners. Just enjoy your wins. Its only a matter of time before the next bandwagon movements make a difference. Its been happening in WvW since day 1. It will continue to happen no matter how much you tell yourselfs otherwise. And at the end of the day do you want you server and/or your guilds to be remembered as the guys that took winning with some graciousness or the ones that were terrible big mouths when they finally got their win?

Agreed. Unfortunately there will be those who will choose to think the latter, whether it’s out of animosity thanks to our forum trolls, or some other reason. I do believe that the majority of the server are choosing to be gracious winners. Whether others agree or not, we believe we’ve reaped what we’ve sowed and are enjoying the fruit of our labor. It’s just unfortunate that those who aren’t enjoying it humbly are the most vocal ones in this forum.

You shouldn’t judge an orchard by a few bad apples.

Completely agree Godsend,
SoR have a number of great guilds who just go out and fight no matter what, no chest thumping, just hard fighting and respect to your opponents, they are the true backbone of SoR, and it has and will always be a pleasure fighting against you

it is a pity the vocal majority spoil it for the rest of you, guess they suffer from white line fever

Azure.8412:

BG used to have the manpower to win T1. No one should be blamed for BG’s demise except the people in BG itself. Its just so sad to see them crumble despite absorbing 35907269021243520391 guilds. Come on BG! Absorb some more! Oh wait… your server is too full.

Actually BG had the manpower and strategy to counter JQ’s Sea presence, which was how we were able to win T1. It wasn’t our fault that SoR wasn’t pulling the same player numbers as they are now to actually make it more of a 3 way fight.

don’t get me wrong I have nothing but respect for those SoR who were out there fighting the Foo powerhouse and BG oceanic n Sea guilds, they had it tough, but to claim BG had the manpower to counter SoR’s numbers during NA and JQ’s numbers during Sea is a joke, we have great guilds who fight the best they can, and now they have to battle T3 keeps n towers too

but please don’t let the truth get in the way of the chest thumping

Vena.8436:

I think we all know who won that battle in Valley.

The grub.

The grub who, with about 100 other little grubs, were all over the lords room.

Yeah the scaling with 3 nearly full map zergs made the grub op…. nerf the grub :P

I still cant believe we managed to keep both SoR n JQ out of EBkeep, ok out is a very relative term lets just say the circle wasn’t capped for the 4 hours I was in there

“Lord is down, no he is back up…… wait he is back down again”

the Lord was banner rez’d soo many times and the number of arrowcarts n trebs lining the walls on everyones sides was ridiculous, and I think nearly every wall that could go down was :P

then the grub managed to find his way inside too

I hope the number of BL vendors was a good indication of everyone having fun

we should do it again sometime, maybe next time in SoR or JQ keep

Azure.8412:

oxide.8324:

In hindsight SoR should have recruited Oceanic/SEA guilds so they could remain competitive during those timezones instead of throwing the scoring out of whack by recruiting EU.

If I’m not wrong everyone in T1 tried to recruit IRON. However, IRON decided to choose SoR instead of BG and JQ.

Actually no we said for them to go to T2 as there was little to no EU on any server including T1, sure there may have been afew saying come to BG, but the people who are trying to balance all the servers out said to go to T2

If we had of known Waha was going to leave (before he came back and made ATM) we would have said for some of the KN Sea guilds to go to SoR, but at the time all we knew was that Foo n Waha were still going strong, im not saying the KN guilds would have listened to us, and I welcome them and enjoy fighting with them

I like how the chest thumpers are ignoring that BG came from 3rd, n 2nd to get first but will continue to spew 500ppt BS when they were not the ones fighting during those times and had no idea how the fights were

scootshoot.6583:

When BG was ticking 500ppt he routinely snapped shots and posted on the T1 forums. He didn’t seem too concerned about balance back in those days, haha.

Are you talking about when BG was pushing hard at the end of the week to beat JQ in the last few days of a match? I would think anyone would like battles like that rather than a server leading from day 1 because of coverage.

no I do not like those posts where people were posting low scores of other teams calling them dead etc or the chest thumping but showing posts of a server coming back to win is the ones I wanna see

good win last week SoR, I hope we have a closer fight this week

the damage increase and range increase has made AC the king of WvW siege

expect to see zergs melt if they do not call inc ac fire

its basically AC v treb or cata

expect it to take a week or so for the meta to change, you can no longer just rely on throwing bodies at towers and keeps anymore

trebs have a greater range than arrowcarts destroy the enemy siege first

good siege placement and defence should not get countered with 10 golems and 30 man zergs rushing a gate

golems should be used as just another tactic not the #1 tactic

Sorry but I really do not like this change

There is no more point to helping portal people and their alts in the JP, which was probably the only reason why I have any gold (thanks to all those that donated siege or gold)

not sure which metric you were using to come to this decision but it will hurt the WvW community more than just the few badges of honor people were getting from chests on alts

Yes while some people would religiously do the JP every day, most would do it once maybe twice a week on all their alts to resupply siege for the next week, the rest of the time would be spent in WvW battles, so instead of taking 5-10mins for people to get 7 chests they will now need to spend closer to 1-2 hours, and that is assuming that there are not people in the JP who are trying to kill you

if the BoH were the problem then remove them

Kript.3291:

DON’T PUSH SOR
DON’T PUSH SOR
DON’T PUSH SOR

dawwwwwwwww

Someone had to link this, guess it will be me

Welcome to Blackgate

Enjoy the fights and I look forward to fighting as allies for a change

morrolan.9608:

Just how do you expect a server who doesn’t have remotely the coverage of the other 2 to actually approach WvW so it remains enjoyable?

I have been in your shoes, and honestly there is not much you can do

set goals for you guild/server/timezone be it hold a keep, garrison or tower for as long as possible, this helps learning new strats for defence as well as offence
get the other servers zergs to fight each other
nothing feels as good as kiting one zerg into another and watching them wipe each other, sure you my be dead on the ground but watching them both panic when they see the other zerg is rather special
play the 2v1 game, flip camps kill yaks on the other servers BL, generally just being a nuisance

most important thing is to do what ever you can to continue to enjoy the game, it is a game first and should be fun

akamon.2769:

FannWong is a great commander. : )) and through our few exchanges on the field, a great person as well as far as i’m concerned. always appreciate your posts in here!! on par with a few other leaders (not just those with commander tags, mind you) from JQ and BG who keep their servers together.

take what you will from this thread, folk. deep down though, we all know we can’t live without one another XDDD

Akamon we could be all be friends if we weren’t all trying to kill each other

Cirus.5748:

Out of curiousity, what timezone is HIRE based?

I usually see the most numbers for HIRE late NA early Oceanic times, then a few small numbers during SEA

and its always a pleasure butting heads against them

covenn.7165:

Maelwaedd.5842:

Really Covenn
You are talking about crap which happened months ago

Actually no, I wasn’t ‘talking’ about it. I was responding to someone that obviously doesn’t understand that there is history involved. Obviously it was months ago …thus the ‘history’. Its not like the back and forth has ceased and desisted, it has been ongoing.

I am not really sure why you responded with that. You only reinforced what I was saying to begin with ……

So I guess you missed the part where I said I think it is poor form on both sides to justify that its ok cos they did it first.

There are many guilds I have great respect for on SoR and I think both our servers guilds get tarnished with crap a few trolls spew (oh and yeah there are JQ guilds too :p )
Dont get me wrong server rivalry is good, trash talking can also be fun, but taken too far its just bigotry

covenn.7165:

Magical Sky Daddy.7540:

Raven Paradox.1860:

thiagoperne.7340:

again, score update please!

Is the score ever really different? JQ is in the lead, likely going to win again because they’ve got the coverage. SoR is about 4k points ahead of BG and BG is about 4k points behind SoR.

Not much is going to really change, besides the gaps getting bigger and occasionally BG will pull 48 hour shifts.

Do you still think this is true? I mean when Blackgate was losing, a majority of SoR players were talking trash on Blackgate. Now that Blackgate’s winning SoR starts to QQ on the forums.

That’s pretty poor sportsmanship SoR; ever think maybe that’s the reason why you don’t get transfers? :/

That is a little revisionism. Most of the responses you saw from SoR then were due to the weeks upon weeks of trash talk from your server dating all the way back to T2. Maybe you weren’t on the server then?

Really Covenn
You are talking about crap which happened months ago, if I remember correctly the matchup after for us was BGvTCvKN and that thread went for ages and Im rather sure there was no trash talk or anything in that thread. could it just be that a few trolls got everyone fighting

Yes there are some people on all servers who should keep out of forum threads but just cant seam to help themselves. but to really bring up things which happened ages ago in a different tier and then claim ohh we were just getting our own back

and no I do not support those who are using the last few weeks threads as justification from our server either, I think it is poor form on both sides