Guild Wars 2

UltraHiDef.4809:

Maelwaedd.5842:

UltraHiDef.4809:

As a person who’s fought with and against ZBs (Known now as ZDs) on SFR and PS. I gotta say, I’ve lost all the respect for ZBs for choosing to bully gates and going to NA, who practically have no EU presence. Leave fights against GD, VII, Scnd and go fight against gates? Tired of wiping I presume, huh ZBs?

do you know how NA gets EU presence? EU guilds transferring, same thing goes for EU getting NA presence, its guild transferring
guess it would be better for people to sit in 7 hour ques than play a game
hopefully we can get JQ, TC, SoS and Mag some EU guilds too

Replace BG with every NA word you put there and it’s a correct and understandable post.

I could quiet easily replace the word NA with Meow too and it would work
Meow go back to your own thread :P

Elano.2014:

Arcade.8901:

SoR keep posting that screen for like what, 4th time already ? Anyway check the minimap and the green dots around, you had the same numbers, the only thing you are failed into is gathering and push, but that is all about fights right? Better to log off and try to whine on forums.

I was simply asking whether it was that day or not…

Maelwaedd.5842:

lmao are you still posting stuff from last weeks game plz try and use a pic from this week, you may not play in the timezone so unable to post accurate pics or you are just drinking down that kool-aid and believing whatever lie SoR’s propaganda machine is trying to tell everyone

Read, please, at the entire story and my previous posts. You may want to delete this post later.

Hey Elano, re read my post and it does sound worse than i ment sorry about that, I have seen that pic linked heaps in this thread and the previous weeks thread and its about time someone found another one as its getting abit boring

UltraHiDef.4809:

As a person who’s fought with and against ZBs (Known now as ZDs) on SFR and PS. I gotta say, I’ve lost all the respect for ZBs for choosing to bully gates and going to NA, who practically have no EU presence. Leave fights against GD, VII, Scnd and go fight against gates? Tired of wiping I presume, huh ZBs?

do you know how NA gets EU presence? EU guilds transferring, same thing goes for EU getting NA presence, its guild transferring
guess it would be better for people to sit in 7 hour ques than play a game
hopefully we can get JQ, TC, SoS and Mag some EU guilds too

Elano.2014:

Kiff.8157:

Few ZDs around and one of them tagged up, leading the pugs with no one on TS we held bay and started to raid the north part. There was still 1 hour before SEA prime time ended. Soon we capped one of the north towers knowing the next target would be garrison, SONG/NYS and the whole map zerg logged off leaving only few pugs in garrison holding it.

You mean this one? Yeah, it was quite a few. :P

lmao are you still posting stuff from last weeks game plz try and use a pic from this week, you may not play in the timezone so unable to post accurate pics or you are just drinking down that kool-aid and believing whatever lie SoR’s propaganda machine is trying to tell everyone

Doomdesire.9365:

JaredKincade.9761:

We do not detag to discourage our “new WvW players”. We teach them, get them into TS and recruit them into the WvW guilds. All of our WvW guilds have gained in numbers throughout the last three weeks, while SORs map numbers have slowly shrunk.

Do we complain? Do we detag? No, we do everything we can to show the fresh meat how awesome WvW is by organizing massive TS permission drives for our new players to get into TS. All our WvW guilds recruit like crazy. Some guilds get so full, the only time they can all fit is off hours, like Oceanic or late EU.

Don’t blame BGs influx of numbers on a zerg of 30 Russians. We’ve been working on reaching out for new WvW blood for months, and its starting to hit critical mass.

That’s the difference between BG & SoR. BG guilds are PvX and recruit as many people as they can. More people = more ppt

SoR is hardcore WvW orientated with a bigger focus on guild quality. CHOO/TW/FEAR/Hel/IRON/ONE/RISE are all under 150 quality members each and are hardcore WvW. We like to keep it that way.

Read what he said, then re read what you said Doomy, if you cannot see the irony and why he said you had an elitist attitude towards your own server you never will

yeah i got the lagg tonight trying to do guild missions

guildies said i was rubber banding all over the place not a good thing when your trying to miss traps

on my screen it was looking alright distance etc but on theirs it was as if it was trying to predict my movement path, if i moved a small amount it leapt me forward and then rubber banded me back

thx for making my guildies laugh but can this get fixed, and no there is was nothing wrong with my internet connection my ping was fine and fps was above 60

actually Sleepy BG have always stated that assisting a guild that is already transferring is what a good community does, its the same with repping for that guild so they can build their influence up and get into WvW asap and smashing skulls, if you dont believe me just ask Tarkus he knows what our stance is

buying a guild involves give gold to members above and beyond the cost to transfer

not sure why you have a crush on BG for, when you actually face us you will see that there have been no massive influx of guilds and it is our militia who are smashing it up

Poxheart.2845:

FractalChaos.6539:

Poxheart.2845:

FractalChaos.6539:

It would stop anything short of a zerg, though. I don’t know about other servers, but on SoR the north camp is frequently lost to 8-10 players. Siege at the gates stops that and forces the enemy to devote more time and effort to steal a simple camp.

Tried it by myself this past summer; one ballista, my turrets (engi) and the guards were enough to hold off 3 havoc pushes by…I wanna say 8 people but one may have been a Mesmer and clones, it was a kittenaotic.

Anytime you can hold onto an objective with 1 person instead of 10-15, that’s a plus in my book.

Eight people would roll through the two guards and one player (regardless of class) at that choke. I’ve done it enough with fewer people to know. If this is representative of the kinds of ideas you think will bolster SoR’s performance, then it’s no wonder they’re ignored.

The problem with SoR right now is that (for whatever reason) there are few commanders online after 9 pm PST, and most of the ‘Rallians’ on the map aren’t in TS and are unorganized and outmatched by the organized groups fielded by the other servers.

…and yet they had their assed handed to them. You’ve seen it fail, and I’ve seen it work. Who’s right?

Wait, what? Who got who’s kitten handed to who? I can’t tell what you’re responding to.

That said, I don’t think you’re half as smart as you think you are. In your reply to Letoll you suggest that SoR WvW guild commanders should split up into 8 man groups and capture objectives on different parts of the map. In the post I responded to, you claimed to have held off an 8-10 man group with just a ballista and 2 NPCs.

If the later is true, what benefit is there for the 8 man guild groups to do as you suggest?

If the former is true (that 8 man guild groups can take lots of objectives), then what benefit is there from defending the north camp with 1 player, 1 ballista, and 2 NPCs?

I think he is trying to break up the map zerg, all 80 people on a tag, he could quite easily have said break up into 2 20 man groups and a 40 man zerg, you can hit 3 targets at once with only 1 proc’ing orange swords
the 20 man groups can then split into 2 10 man groups and cap 2 camps to get 200 supply, or they can split into 4 5 man groups and cap ruins

Xenesis.6389:

Nice, to be expected I guess.

And no sorry I’m not leaving Rall and I’m also not giving up, I play gw2 for wvw only I don’t do dungeons, I don’t do most of the new content because it’s fluff, I champ farm when waiting in queue. When bg rolled the score over us this week I was still in there havok squading flipping camps and sentries and running with the shrunken zerg. I transferred from sos to sor in order to get on a server with more people for more options to do wvw.

Yeah I am a pug not part of a main guild, but I do a lot of what is asked of any other players, I’m on TS, I do supply runs to help repair bases and build siege, I tap siege when needed the pugs get blamed for them disappearing even though the people who dropped it don’t bother to do it themselves or remind others, I run ruins for the bloodlust buff, I’ve solo capped supply camps and sentry points even in places not convenient to be in, I report enemy movements even when I lashed back “we already know” for doing so, I don’t take supply from bases unless it’s near cap or upgrades are done especially smc, you drop a ram I’m running to build it and then let a better operator use it, I don’t attack the door when asked, I stack when asked for an ambush or supply checkittenep up with the zerg formation, I eat my food and oils, I have the correct gear and specced for survival on a necro in zerg battles, I plague to help save the melee train, I plague to help commanders escape while I sacrifice myself, did I miss anything? well etc etc etc

Would just like my server to play as a team again, not as a bunch of groups out for personal glory.

If anyone expects any more from their militia then they are asking to be carried, your doing whatever you can to help your server out, if everyone in WvW did even half of the things that you are then all the servers would be alot better

all I can say is keep fighting

kanderous.7512:

MagiKarp.8201:

Personally I’m actually quite impressed by SoR as a server, their ability to just give up and as server make a decision not to show up to “fight” is amazing.

I have many times when SoS/BG was losing to tell them “just take it easy, give up” been met with “Never give up, never surrender” lines or just generally ignored and we can’t win but keep the margin within 20k.

Whereas SoR just has this ultimate command over their guilds/player who just decide as a collective to quit.

I’d understand that opinion since you’re seeing it from a different side of the fence.

Over here, what I’m seeing is that our fairweathers and militia tend to quit early, yet you still see guilds like TW, Choo, Die sticking it out during late NA.

Our TS was also being DDOSed. It happens every time BG pushes for something or can’t take something from SoR’s grip.

I can’t say much about our OCX and SEA guilds, that’s their decision. Prolly playing Battlefield 4.

We love (and hate) the old guard still coming out doing their best for the server, the ones truly out for the fights and we have nothing but respect for them especially when moral on the server is low, so please dont take comments like karp’s to be directed at those who are out there trying their hardest

the oceanic guilds like HIRE and OCX are still out there as well as the SEA, but our NA are doing a beast of a job it is just hard for your OCX n SEA guilds as we are able to break their wp’s before they can log in and keep them that way

not sure whats happening to your TS but i hope it gets sorted out asap, no one on BG condones that sort of crap

see you on the field

KeeZee you mad cos you switched from BG to JQ a couple of weeks ago, yeah you mad

Frayta there are many on BG that wish for nothing more than a balance to the top servers if we could get 9 servers that would be awesome, but its not gonna happen we have tried and managed to get 5 nearly 6 balanced servers before free transfers ended and everyone stacked onto one or 2 servers now leagues came out and they stack to the top 3

Darkjoy.3092:

Axle.5182:

ZD’s will be gone back to SFR by the end of the League when their native home settles down and they can fit back in, SFR did the very same thing as BG which resulted in ZD’s departure in the first place take a leaf out of SFR’s book put some control measures in place don’t try and stack time zones or you will find native established guilds will get fed up and jump ship.

you should worry about your own server. BG’s old core guilds in all time zones have been carrying us, not ZD. Black gate has the heart of a fighter

Hey Dark, his point is a fair one don’t stack a timezone, which many on BG agree with
I know AFTL only recently transferred to SoR but Axle may have drunk too much of the Kool-Aid already if you could please tell me how we stacked a timezone or anything of the sort

We did receive an influx of militia and PvX players who came over due to BG getting the world first Tequatl kill, but these players all came to BG due to the hard effort of the server and enjoying the time they spent when they guested here and choose to make BG their new home, we did not recruit them but welcomed them and hope they enjoy their new home (and hopefully join one of the WvW guilds)

of the 3 top NA servers JQ got the most recruits guild wise, but could still use NA and EU guilds, SoR got the next highest number but they too could use some Oceanics and late NA, BG lost Oceanic, SEA and EU guilds, but did gain enough to replace those lost

What you are seeing is the BG core WvW, PvX guilds working hard with established and new militia, we currently have a high moral which naturally increases the numbers present, it took us a few weeks to adjust to the change in dynamics on the server, plus people are pushing hard due to leagues

Im sure im not alone in hoping that all 6 gold league servers could reach a balance between each other, but while people continue to point the blame, exaggerate and play victim instead of being honest, open and transparent I don’t see that happening

have fun and see you on the field

Hexin.5603:

Demannu.2805:

I saw someone made words for Jingle Bells … well and i made it Karaoke for ya

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LwXsOVey3i8

First, dude – great job man. \highfive

Second, thanks to all who took part in the karma train in SoRBL, I know there was one in TCBL too. The reason we never came to BGBL, we would have shared bay, but didn’t want people to tempt on your garri, besides…. most karma trains happen on 2nd, 3rd place maps.

Special thanks to the BG dude who chilled with us in hills end of night. Not so much to the bunker engi who was sweeping or the thai mesmer who was way to op for my lvl 45 alt. Hope you enjoyed my banner as I did your merch.

~X

PS… sorry for not popping back on forums last night, after the whole trick or treat thing, i jsut wanted to get in game, and had issue with the game client blackscreening. So kinda took precedent. We all figured it out though eventually.

it took awhile for the SoR BL karma train to get rolling, not sure who you had at the wheel but you are ment to go clockwise or counter clockwise not figure 8’s :P, but it got there in the end, and gave us a laugh in TS

managed to get a precursor out of one of the lords too, so it was a great night for me

hope everyone on BG had a great night in TS and plug dj, listening to the drunken Kiwi’s and Australians leading you all

best of luck on reset for everyone

Sovereign.1093:

Maelwaedd.5842:

Vapour.7348:

To the guy who vacations in TC:

TC seems like an entirely different server ever since EP and KH moved out. Lots of hate towards T1s especially BG and sometimes JQ. Most of the QQ on eb map chat are from people I’ve never seen before or up-levels. They were saying stuff like BG are cowards and would lose to them if the numbers were even and that BG loves to run full map zergs.

wow not sure why they would say that, BG would prefer to run small groups of upto 30 than the map zergs which dominate t1, why do you think we have so many havok groups and roamers

it would be a pity to see TC loose their class due to transfers

You’re so quick to believe that post. ^.^

I didn’t believe the post Sovereign, I was just correction the misinformation presented and then stating my disbelief that a few transfers could change the TC i know and love

Vapour.7348:

To the guy who vacations in TC:

TC seems like an entirely different server ever since EP and KH moved out. Lots of hate towards T1s especially BG and sometimes JQ. Most of the QQ on eb map chat are from people I’ve never seen before or up-levels. They were saying stuff like BG are cowards and would lose to them if the numbers were even and that BG loves to run full map zergs.

wow not sure why they would say that, BG would prefer to run small groups of upto 30 than the map zergs which dominate t1, why do you think we have so many havok groups and roamers

it would be a pity to see TC loose their class due to transfers

the TC i know would never put up with negative talk and hate, they would smother them in flowers and hugs and tonics until the tears dried up and everyone was smiles again

TC is very much like BG, hell we fought you and SoR for so many months back in tier 2, BG and SoR managed to recruit and pull ourselves to tier 1 but TC were unable to recruit enough to fully break into it and kick JQ out

alot of very good wvw guilds were spawned on TC, tempered with RP and fighting t1 and t2 servers

I dont know if TC will ever be able to recruit enough to join BG and SoR or whether the t1 servers will de stack and balance all the gold servers, but we can dream

First WvW is a 24/7 game, nite capping is part of it

what people are complaining about is finding out they have sub 100ppt when they log in and need to rebuild everything in order to be able to start to be able to even the score by then they log out and are then back to sub 100ppt this cycle continues until they decide hell I should not bother to even log in as it will get capped during the night anyway

ideas to fix this
make home BL easy to defend
make it more difficult to be able to cap garrison and the 2 spawn towers on a BL, get rid of the switchback near the towers, get rid of watergate and move the north gates out more towards the centaurs and skrit to act as a choke point and add doors to the camp’s upgrade list, this enables less people to defend against higher off peak populations and easier scouting

increase supply delivery and the rate which buildings upgrade
the game should be about fights not siegeing up for off hours to try and defend, if the buildings increased their rate of upgrading then it encourages more fighting as a building getting flipped is not a huge lose as it will be upgraded in 30 mins or an hour instead of 3 hours it takes now

get rid of repair cost for WvW
never understood why you penalize people for fighting in wvw, the ppt gain from being stomped should be enough of a deterrent to lemmings

get rid of the cost for upgrading keeps
make it cost more supply or hell dragonite ore (i think we have enough dragonite :P) if it costs 200 supply to start building an upgrade it will require a number of people to start it or time for supply to build up in a building

do not show current ppt or overall score until the last day of the week
too many people look at the score say we are being smashed and do not log in, if instead they went in and started looking for fights, had fun killed people or flipped buildings they are playing the game not worrying about ppt

get rid of all Waypoints except for garrison
the only waypoints which are needed are spawn and garrison, its too easy to move around maps, a single zerg can defend multiple maps because of waypoints get rid of them and watch the zerg need to split up to defend multiple key areas

encourage off-peak play
for NA increase the item drop rates and MF of non NA timezones, for EU do the same for non EU timezones, we need to encourage more EU to play on NA servers and more NA to play on EU servers (esp if as you say the server must stay separate), and im not talking about rewards for taking keeps or killing guards im talking the reward for killing an opponent

bloodlust buff
it is a great idea but should return to granting 3 ppt per stomp if you have 3 orbs as it encouraged fights for ppt not capping building for ppt, and spread the ruins out alittle more, its too easy to zerg them all or run around and circle cap them

reduce WvW map populations
longer ques means guilds will transfer to a server without them, if they enjoy the fights they will stay there

reduce siege use in wvw
yes i said it, throwing 5 sup rams on a door is overkill , there is no way that all 5 would be able to fit in an area to take down a door without hitting each other, put a seige cap of 2 siege in the area and make a golem worth 2 siege, having 6 golems takes about 2 mins to take down 2 doors, that is what causes night capping not the numbers difference, if 2 golems attack while in the same area they blow each other up

make siege the only thing to damage gates and walls
1000 people swinging at a gate with axes, swords and arrows will not bring it down, esp if it is upgraded to an iron-bound gate, that is why rams were invented in the first place

fix exploitable siege areas
if a defender cannot place siege which can counter any offensive siege placed then burn the building to the ground and build it somewhere else

building degradation
make it the longer a server has an objective the less ppt the building is worth, clearly it is not worth an opponent taking the objective so it has little to no strategic value and should represent this, im not saying it should be worth nothing but making a keep the same value as a camp will discourage people from defending it and allow another group to flip it, this will have an additional effect of allowing the new owner to gain more ppt

if you have read all these suggestions then you will see what i am suggesting is ways to discourage zerging and making population less important to strategy, defense is easier than attack and fighting should be rewarded not discouraged

Kiff.8157:

SFShinigami.2015:

Did BG recently get some Forum Transfers from Mag? 0_o

We are trying to break the Olympics records. Please go back to your own thread.

I think due to the easy weeks Mag has for the next few weeks due to the Leagues schedule, and the long term injuries to a few well known BG PvF Olympians, Mag may have sent a special team to BG to assist with training in sarcasm, rhetoric and irony, hopefully you will see the fruits of some epic overtime soon

Kiff.8157:

Maelwaedd.5842:

Kiff.8157:

Mitsubishi Eclipsed.6732:

Kiff.8157:

magikfox.9658:

Didn’t know BG held its forum warriors in such high esteem. Getting some lovely hate mail

The best server has to be winning in every aspects, be it WVW, PVE or PVF
Forum warriors are as important as Olympic athletes.

Special Olympic athletes right?

Sniff.. ooops I sense discrimination. Is that really appropriate to say that?

I’m pretty certain that Eclipse is eluding to the fact that WvW and PvF are 2 seperate mediums for competition much like the Olympics and the Special Olympics, Kiff if you are trying to say that forum warriors have some mental or physical disability then you need to have a good long hard look at yourself before making such outrageous claims

Heh, I never denied being a pvf warrior right?

But why must it be Special Olympics? We have Winter Olympics he could refer to that but why special olympics?

Honestly I don’t think he meant that they are 2 different platforms like you said. Totally and obviously not.

Clearly Winter Olympics are PvP arenas while the Commonwealth Games are PvE, geesh its just so obvious

Kiff.8157:

Mitsubishi Eclipsed.6732:

Kiff.8157:

magikfox.9658:

Didn’t know BG held its forum warriors in such high esteem. Getting some lovely hate mail

The best server has to be winning in every aspects, be it WVW, PVE or PVF
Forum warriors are as important as Olympic athletes.

Special Olympic athletes right?

Sniff.. ooops I sense discrimination. Is that really appropriate to say that?

I’m pretty certain that Eclipse is eluding to the fact that WvW and PvF are 2 seperate mediums for competition much like the Olympics and the Special Olympics, Kiff if you are trying to say that forum warriors have some mental or physical disability then you need to have a good long hard look at yourself before making such outrageous claims, only a warped mind would make such a leap to conclude that

Gilgamesh.7364:

Olonnais.4307:

Just to clarify, only 2 [BuLL] members have moved to SoR. We’ll check the server (queues, skill lag, opponents) during this week and then we’ll make a decision.
Main reason is that we can’t play in EU because of the queues (3-4 hours) and that can be demotivating as you can understand.
Also, our “prime time” is different from standard EU so it gives us the opportunity to fight american guilds as well and have constant action.

I can say there are big chances for us to transfer since we like it here, but still… Shoepato (our RL) & company will have the final say. Hope we can bring the spanish passion to NA!

See you on the battlefield,

Olomez – The Bullfighters [BuLL]

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PS: Special greetings to [ZDs], [Coin] and [IRON]

That’s awesome news! If you think about it, transferring to JQ would actually be better since you’ll be able to fight IRON, Zds, and Coin

That’ll definitely balance things out during EU for all 3 of the top servers.

If BULL are thinking of transferring next week i would say go to SoR, as the next 4/5 weeks will have some good fights for you, but if you transfer to JQ you risk being bored for the next 2 weeks til BG and JQ meet in week 5

Burl.9567:

SoR isn’t throwing a matchup. We got caught with our pants down Sunday night/Monday morning and we just haven’t been able to recover. We got lazy and overconfident. Grats to BG on catching us off guard and making us pay for it.

You guys got us fair and square on reset, to be honest we expected a counter push as soon as we started gaining points but I think the momentum of the match had swung too quickly and too far and we were not going to make the same mistake as you guys made

Sorry but we have been fighting you guys for too long to let our foot off your throats, we both know SoR are capable of swinging a match around, even now i would hesitate to say BG have the match won but it is pretty close to it

UnrepentantProcrastinator.7420:

ykyk.2740:

No no no no. You blockheads.

Anyone throwing “T1 NA” around like it still means anything doesn’t get a thing. “T1 NA” is the top SIX servers. Yes, this season BG faces SoR a lot. But notice JQ over there? Yes, HALF their season are blowouts because all the “competition” is in three servers.

Next season maybe BG gets 5 weeks of facing #4-5-6. Nobody knows. You want to “find fights”? Keep joining the weakest servers until the top 6 are reasonably balanced. There you go, FIGHTS EVERY WEEK.

Logic too stronk. Then again flocking to bloated servers to let your guilds slowly die from queues and lack of interest seems to be the top plan nowadays.

The top 6 will never be reasonably balanced. You’re talking about several thousand (assuming daily turnout is only a fraction of roster size) international players distributing themselves evenly throughout all of them. That is stupidly optimistic.

Stacking T1, even with Leagues, still makes more sense for a guild or individual than expecting miraculous coverage for the rest of them.

If it becomes a problem, ANet will realize Leagues is stupid (seriously, it’s completely counter to what they said at the launch of the game, and that’s the reason why T1 servers are in this predicament) and remove it. Or the game will die.

the closest we have ever got to a balanced top 6 was before free transfers being ended was announced and we all know what happened after that

guilds and players can only do so much to balance the game when the game itself has no incentive to balance it and actively does such things such as leagues and end free transfers which promote stacking

why do i feel so dirty agreeing with Doomy

IRON transferring to SoR was the right call, getting more EU after IRON wasn’t

when Res (an oceanic guild) transferred to BG over 12 months ago there was a choice between SoS, JQ, SBI, IoJ, BG, TC and SoR, we didnt want to go to IoJ or SoS as they had the higher native oceanic populations in WvW, we wanted people to fight against, so it was between SoR, BG, JQ, SBI and TC we sent guildies to all the servers including SoS and IoJ and found BG to be the right fit for us, small native ocx pop which means our PvE players had something to do while our WvW players had opponents to fight (this was before guesting)

if you look now BG and SoS have the higher oceanic populations (PvE) while BG has the stronger WvW oceanic population, if we made our move now we probably would not choose BG, of the current gold servers we would probably go either TC or Mag

why am i telling you this, because the population bases need to start somewhere, 1 or 2 good guilds in a timezone on a server promotes individuals in that timezone to transfer to play with them, which promotes guilds to transfer to opposition servers to fight against them

all server should be happy that 2 EU guilds are moving to NA servers, especially good ones which will encourage people wanting to fight against them to transfer to other servers, if these new transfers enjoy their fights here and stay it will increase the chances of more EU guild transferring, if they transfer back after a few weeks and say the fights were crap do you think EU guilds will want to transfer here?

see you on the field

why would they join the PvD server, JQ have no competition for another 3 or so weeks and alot of their WvW guilds are not fielding full numbers and they are still getting queues

i would love to see more EU guild on all the gold servers, SoS, TC and Mag could all do with transfers esp during SEA and OCX timezones as well as EU

having good competition on more than just 3 servers would be a great thing, hopefully these recent EU transfers encourage more EU guild to look at NA servers for good fights and they look at transferring to those without much EU coverage first

and plz note im not trying to be dismissive of SoS, TC and Mag, you have great guilds and players i just wish more people would look at balancing out all the servers

1. Accurate Server population numbers for WvW, PvE and PvP
what the definition of these populations are should be discussed but should include such things as different timezones and content being completed

2. Get rid of NA and EU servers being split
this is the main explaination of why people complain about night capping and server in-balances, just label the servers as EU or NA in the transfer window and let people choose the language base for each server (which is what has happened as it is), spliting the off hour coverage of all servers does not help the balance but makes it worse, as all the top servers in NA and EU server groups are those with 24/7 coverage not those with the highest population during peak time

3. GvG arena’s which are not server based and people can watch
give those people who want to GvG a place to do it which does not impact WvW population and enables guilds on the same server to fight against each other, also allow anyone to go into a viewing area where they can watch either in character or from a players who is fighting’s camera view

4. Allow WvW Guesting
PvE guesting has been great, now share that with WvW, once a month a player can choose to guest to a server for WvW, the player can cancel it at any time but cannot choose a new server to Guest to for another month and cannot choose the same server each month, this allows players to get a feel for a server they are thinking of transferring to while also trying to minimize trolls

5. Give servers a way to police botters, trolls etc in WvW themselves
if WvW populations can be agreed upon, then they can also give a vote to designate a few people on each server to have the power to temp ban players who are griefing, as it is most higher tier servers have some type of WvW community which tries to police their members help us by give them the tools to be more effective at it

6. Map Que Times
its rather self explanatory

7. Secondary Build while in WvW
group builds are not made for solo pvp, pve builds are not built for WvW, make it easier for those who want to do abit of WvW and PvE, if it means giving some type of dual build in PvE too fine, but being able to have the right build for the game type you are playing is rather important, the number of times i have seen PvE players get discouraged from play WvW due to having a PvE build and blowing up when they run into a WvW built player

Warthog.6870:

Halcyon.7352:

kurath.9406:

Lord Kuru.3685:

Necros have zero reliable blast finishers.

While they are certainly not good for blast finishers this is the internet and since you’re wrong it must be pointed out.

Necrotic Traversal (flesh wurm secondary activation) is a reliable blast finisher.

Putrid Explosion. One of the lowest CD blast finishers in the game, and you get two of them.

Staff #4, Putrid Mark (granted this must be triggered by a hostile)

Necro 101: Staff 4 doesn’t have to be triggered to blast.

yeap necro staff 4 is a blast finisher when you place the mark, just wish it worked 100% of the time

Ranger has the best healing field in game, and can run decent support builds

Warrior is great frontline with good condi removal with shouts and banner rez

Thief is probably the best class for blast finishers with shortbow (spam that water field) plus has stealth

there is more i can put, but what style of play do you prefer, do you want to run with the zerg, group or solo? do you prefer melee combat or range? do you want to grant boons or strip conditions? do you want to run with the pack or snipe key targets?

Find a group to run with and find out what they need may also help you make a decision

Robot Chocken.7012:

Seigfried.5938:

ThunderPanda.1872:

scootshoot.6583:

sostronk.8167:

scootshoot.6583:

sostronk.8167:

Blix.8021:

scootshoot.6583:

Furiousbeard.7602:

JQ is STACKED!

Wow, not the same server from 1 month ago.

JQ has all 4 maps on queue during Asian time zones….crazy I know, haha.

BG commanders during that time slot should instruct their players to stack and defend your home lands solely so the JQ players on the other 3 maps gets bored out of their minds.

All 4 maps are not queued during asian times, usually EB has a queue and maybe one other map if people are stacking to try to break a waypoint. People just communicate which map is being hit and drag people from map to map.

All 4 maps can be queued during SEA timezone and frequently is. I know because I have an alternate account on JQ and after being told this was the case I logged in on that account and found there actually was 4 maps queued. This was during the week, mind you, not on the weekend with people pulling OT from other timezones. Ive literally never seen BG with 4 maps queued during SEA when I have been there and I play SEA timezone ~90% of nights. On rare occasions SOR has had queues, but only a couple of times in the few weeks I spent there.

Once leagues start I suspect JQ will have queues during sea almost every night. SOR may be able to pull it off depending on just how much of an influx in numbers we see (from leagues). And BG probably wouldn’t pull it off without massive restructuring and timezone changes to get NA players to play during this timezone OR getting more sea guilds onboard.

Yep and JQ SEA gets more active once the weekend ends for North Americans.

Stead of spreading yourselves out this week and giving free bags to JQ, BG commanders should just stack everyone on their homeland map only during this timeslot and siege the crap out of it. Make JQ on the other 3 maps get bored silly for the full week.

Its still an issue because this would mean we can’t hold keeps on other maps, including waypointed ones. Not really much we can do. Meh. Coverage wars I will just get my stomps on.

Pssst, JQ at present is ticking > 500 vs another Tier 1 server bro…

Troll JQ SEA for the rest of the week and have everyone on stack your home BL to the gills during this time so the other 3 maps can stand around picking herbs for 5 hours.

doesn’t BG have any decent SEA?

^ coming from the most stacked timezone of the most stacked server.

SoR has more coverage than both BG and JQ.

Not during SEA they dont, they maybe able to queue 2 and have forces on a 3rd but only JQ has all 4 maps queued during the week

most guilds run with 20-35 people, just stay clear of whoever is running the float team and you should be fine

alot of the small fights happen around the centre of the map for the bloodlust buffs, fun times

you can usually feel when a big zerg loads into the map and its not too hard to avoid them

and there are 80v80v80 fights but they are usually inside garrison just switch maps and its fine

they are still active on BG, i will see if i can grab one of them to swing by and say hello

ability 1 and 2 should be combined on the turret

even if they cut the damage in half

Derek.9021:

If the bleed cap is a technical limitation, then why did you make classes that stack 14 bleeds?

I can hit 14 stacks auto attacking (ok 10 but not far off :P)

but hitting the 25 stacks takes about 3 secs when playing a condi necro properly

they really need to add an effect where everytime 25 stacks are reached a base amount of damaged is dealt, what this number is i dont know but how hard would it be to work out

if your toon is shaking his head it means you already have that one, if you know you havn’t been to that one log a bug report

that goes for the scales etc too

you are not the only person i have heard this happen to, but i dont know if theirs was resolved

while power is king in this teq fight, it doesnt change the fact condi builds are screwed in this fight just as crit/crit dmg builds are

fights like these should have rolls which can equally contribute to the fight, no exclude people from experiencing certain aspects of the fight cos they chose the wrong gear/spec

the power aspect of this fight where you need to take off 25% of teq life to get to the next laser phase unfairly penalizes any condi build, aoe burst is the way to go and unless that changes it is going to force players to all have a pvt set of gear much like they forced players to have magic find gear

Gratz SoR

I feel so dirty saying that :P

Pifil.5193:

Asyaru.9280:

digiowl.9620:

And once more the solution is “stack and DPS”.

yeah, good luck with that.

You didn’t watch the video did you? That’s exactly what Blackgate did.

actually, i think you didnt watch the video

there was alot more happening than stack and dps

walls of reflection, cleanses, people releasing and rezzing at a wp, dont just look at the video, analyze it listen to what the commander is saying, look at what skills people are using to help people stay alive, the number of icebows and fiery greatswords which where dropped to increase dps

stacking works due to the aoe buffs and cleanses from the cannons

if it was as easy as stack and dps alot more servers would have gotten this down

Arrow.3856:

Vorch.2985:

Actually, what blackgate did was have only ONE commander for DPS, that way ALL the turrets focused on a very small area, giving permanent swiftness and easy access.

It was beautiful

Wasn’t this patch supposed to remove the stacking in one spot while dpsing? Well it seems every server will do this from now on.

clearly someone didnt watch the video

yes there was stacking but there was also water fields, cleansing, rezzing walls of reflection etc going on

its about using all your skills to help the group not spam 1 and afk

plus the different phases of the fight are fun, really love the platform jumps

and i welcome all those guesting on Blackgate listen to the advise from the commanders and take what you learn back to your server and help them get it down

currently i think the #1 thing stopping servers getting teq down is people dying and not running back, the turrets are easy once you know what you are doing (glad they stay so people can learn them after the fight)

Ascii.9726:

cyyrix.6105:

First of all, it wasn’t 1v5…it was 1v1, 1v2, 1v1, 1v1…Still, even if the opponents are on zerg builds (which they were) and are playing poorly (which they were), it’s always impressive to take down that many opponents in one go. I love that you were down to 8 hp on that last fight but made it out alive. A little lucky, but a great vid.

I never had a chance to heal by breaking combat, i was engaged from beginning to end.

as a fellow necro i approve this video :P

it shows any new necro player how to play a necro against a number of different types of opponents, they may not have been quality opponents but still nice work taking down 5 by yourself

linking you build in the vid also helps

Kelo.4370:

WvW suddenly gets a whole lot less stressful and a whole lot less vile without SoR in it.

shhh if you say it 3 times in a thread they will appear

SquirtyMagoo.8321:

Azure.8412:

Usagi.4835:

Azure.8412:

While I do agree SoR blobs much harder due to their coverage and numbers, don’t kid yourselves and think you can beat SoR with equal numbers.

But we did in SOSBL, just ask [Hel].

Why not try picking on TW?

TW runs. You’d be hard pressed to find any TC guild that can catch that and have an even fight with them.

fixed that for you :P

I think what you will find is alot of guilds would like their commander tag to be seen by their guild only

if needed they can then be able to pop their tag so everyone on the map can see it

i do like the idea of different tag symbols to denote different play styles maybe something that wxp can be spent on to upgrade you commander tag

kill the scout, then its harder for them to call a zerg down on top of you :P

the underwater area did very little to add to the wvw battles, sure you got the occasional underwater battle but 99% of fights occurred on land, even when it was beside the water

yeah i agree the maps are too small which does make zerging the easy option but until we can see how we can use the new maps to slow down zergs and break them up abit im reserving my judgment

If each server has 1 stack of bloodlust, it should not adversely impact gvg in a meaningful manner

yes it will require some co-ordination cross servers to make sure that the buffs are kept that way during the gvg ie notifying server commanders that a gvg will be going on from x til y and the buffs will be reset, and returned to the way they were pre gvg event when it is finished

but if guilds want to gvg when the new content comes out then they are going to need to communicate with their servers so that those who are in there to enjoy wvw can help accommodate those that wish to gvg

jusxshadow.1493:

RISE are farmers~

Change places

Kimhyuna.1035:

Rawnoodles.1398:

ESOL’s Weekly Highlights

• great fights in EBG against HzH,EMP,Choo

Zerg busting? lmao, how ironic.

Show Doctor Mael where the bad noodles touched you

Thx for the great fights so far JQ and SoR, nice to see a close matchup

cant wait to see what the rest of the match brings

Liquid.9672:

To [KH] Props guys. One of the better guilds running in the game right now IMO. Making TC proud.

agree with you Liquid

Im not sure how long ago we fought them, I think it was back in tier2, but they have defiantly improved their gameplay and co-ordination

We are just coming in to make a complaint
you haven’t cleaned up the walls from the golem party yet
and no im not going to post the pics, what happens in SMC stays in SMC
(and yes there are pics)

Fannwong.3059:

This might be a bit early but congrats to BG for the win. Much respect to BG Oceanic and SEA folks, great pushes.

FW

ahh one of the few vocal formers

Thx for the fights SoR and TC
I hope you guys and girls had fun