Guild Wars 2

Mordecai.6318:

All of the CD currently in the jumping puzzle are quite possibly the worst players I’ve ever seen. 3 hours, a 6v1, and a 10v2 and you finally manged to kill me.

Well, at any one point there was only like 3 people on you, and you didnt even try to engage them, ran so far so fast. I’m sure our famous roamer Jakob would have been more aggressive. Funny how when it comes to the forum, suddenly 3 people will become 10. Well, anything that makes you happy, good for ya.

jschultz.2901:

Another point since you piped in here Gismor, I know for a fact you want to make a difference on CD, it’s obvious and you’ve made it a goal. Know this though Gismor, we are not from where you came from, we’re not all like you and yours and what you’re trying to build. We don’t all want to be on TS3, some don’t want to hear a kitten thing beyond game sounds. Know this though, CD folks do watch keeps, do watch towers, do run dolyaks. CD folks may be “weak underdogs” because of our lower “tier”, but we do refresh siege and set it as we can, and people do sit like kittenes, or dedicated folks to a stupid game, at towers and keeps like any other server.

Yes, I have some animosity in a way and I should say it to you Gismor. You came from what? TC? You expected another group of players and another server to instantly accept you? To accept your style of play and dedication instantly because you came from a “higher” place? Nothing works that way unfortunatly, and I’m sure it’s been kitten you that folks haven’t bowed beneath your superior suggestions.

That all said Gismor, I think you’re getting it. You’re spending alot more time now “sleeping” in towers or spawns because you’re bored that folks aren’t getting “IT”. You chose to come to CD, and we’re not too kitten bad, but if you want to be number 1 then you’re quite a long ways from that and you need to move man. We have shown, vs at least 7 to 1 odds for many weeks now, we still do try. If ya wanna “win” go join the team that has the most numbers.

I don’t really understand why people feel that they are forced to use teamspeak

Gismor didnt force anyone to get on teamspeak. If you don’t want to get on it, so be it, nothing to complaint about. I am sure all major guilds use teamspeak when doing wvw. If you haven’t done any commanding before, you wouldn’t know the frustration of waiting for people to come on you. Even the most tentative person will miss out some message on the map, so we are helping each other here.

A few loose souls running around the main zerg will compromise the position of the entire group, losing the element of surprise, that is why if you are not with the same group using teamspeak, either you follow where the commander runs extremely closely, or you don’t follow at all, simple as that. To each his own, nobody is forcing anyone to do anything. Its like me telling you its good to drink that soup using a spoon, but if you insist on drinking it straight from the bowl, good for ya

I am sure Gismor have explained all his logic on the map more than once. There is no need to come to the forum to QQ in front of everyone just to make your point. Its a private issue

eithinan.9841:

lol, us wiping you doesn’t matter. The point is you wouldn’t even stand and fight after that. What does my guild tag matter? I am in no way representing any other opinion and experiences than my own and the couple who were with me. Even my Sig is a sarcastic comment about one person speaking for a large group without a mandate from those people.

The point is, we are interested to know which guild you are from so that we can show that we don’t run like you imagined. Guess someone is not up to it. Anyone wanna identify this guy?

eithinan.9841:

Getting pulled into contact where the enemy has the high ground means you were out maneuvered. 9/10 times you will lose.

Well, we didnt lose, and our “bad” AC placement helped push the DB zerg off the top. So much for superior knowledge

eithinan.9841:

My guild tag was up when you were running away. 3 different times we came at you guys when you were capping a camp or location. Fairly even numbers(we may have had 1-2 more people in the general area.) We wiped you once and the rest of the time you ran when you saw us.

So… after your amazing feat that you killed a group you outnumbered, people still don’t know which guild you are from.

eithinan.9841:

I dont get what your point is here. Are you trying to point out that smart players go to the high ground to siege up a defensive position before pushing or that scrubs build AC’s on low ground before they get run over?

I guess you couldn’t guess that the smart players of DB in that picture got wiped even though they built an AC on high ground to try and kill a smaller number of scrub CD players. Opps, chest thumping gone wrong!

eithinan.9841:

Who is [Kome] and why do you run?

Who is this and why don’t you dare to show your guild tag?

EnRohbi.2187:

Aaah,
The old “Pics or it didn’t happen” retort

Don’t worry,
I think camping the JP is entirely acceptable.
Haven’t even bothered running it myself in a few months now, but I did have some really good times kittening with people in there a while ago.

Heh, of course. Considering he is from DB, saying we had enough people in the JP to fight for SMC and put a dent on DB’s score, so he must have fought 50 people in it? I’d sure love to see that epic scene! Aren’t you interested to see that? :p

Luthan.5236:

Also does someone know the stealth skill that gives about 10-12 seconds stealth? I think it was an allied thief and I got stealthed by him and it was pretty long… and the wiki only lists skills with about 3-6 seconds stealth time. Or was this something heavily traited and affected by boon duration or runes? Or maybe he did use more skills… but it was pretty fast… if they did not have all a 0 skill use time then it was only 1 skill.

Shadow Refuge. It has a 3 second cast time (Which you are stealth if you stay in the circle) and a 10 second stealth duration after you finish casting. So overall, we are looking at around 13 seconds of stealth using only 1 skill. If during the casting period, you leave the circle, or get pushed out of it, you will get a debuff that makes you unable to stealth for 3 seconds. The stealth duration can be higher if you trait for it.

Enough ppl to take SMC camping inside JP? This guy has good imagination!

And for the record, we never stay in there more than needed, we get our prints, port our guildies up, and we leave. Sorry you got caught up in some fight, but putting false stories about us is unacceptable. Next time please take a screen shot, otherwise, it would make this QQ look silly on your part

Deathdom.8250:

On the bright side, it could be worse. Just look at SoS.

SoS? Mag is at the same level as them, so they got good company

Hah, good old days. Except everything have changed

We have been getting servers ranked above us every single week, tough luck

This is why it is a bad idea to put an achievement there

Those who slag off CD should have been there to see the battle tonight at CD BL Sunny. Epic battle there against TC. Every CDer who was part of it can be proud of yourself for the positive outcome =)

People who QQ that CD dont care, obviously missed the fun last night when the TC zerg (made up by mostly ex-CD guilds) of at least 50 people, knocked down almost every door in CD BL Garrison, but got wiped by us a few times despite us having next to no supplies, before they finally took it

streamdevil.3867:

hope you like the guild emblem at garrison in CD bl..

Pft, nothing to brag about unless it was cap purely by that one guild =p

urak.4863:

shanmugong.6750:

For some reason, I feel that TC is tracking our guild. No matter where we go, from helping SOS to flip their keeps back, defending our BL to wrecking havoc at TCBL, a super Zerg with familiar tags will materialize shortly after and run over our small 30 men team. Maybe I am just paranoid!!

I’m pretty sure it’s 2 different groups who happened to port to different WPs though.. And since your group was one of the bigger roaming zergs, we were the response teams!

Shesh, that mash of at least 50 and more from Awe, Naga and xTyr was following us everywhere from TC BL to CD BL Garr to SOS BL! Pretty sure it was the same bunch unless you guys have grown so big since moving =p

Anyway, good fun. Had us looking over our shoulder all the time anticipating you lot, know it was just a matter of time you came. Pretty flattering to have such a huge group tracking our tiny guild

Wintuo.1356:

You decided to post about the moment it got taken without proper respects being given to the guys that kept it guarded for you to have your moment to shine so I see it as an insult to your server mates the boasting on your behalf with this response.

I am sure nobody in that tower defending with Juggs will feel he was boasting, you are thinking too much. All of us were having fun defending and credit have already been given to everyone.

Erinshaw.8035:

@marquis

Which spawn do you mean citadel??? If so its happened on all servers since day 1 not a hack or exploit as you can just walk in there. Can only kill npcs . If other pm me and let me know and send pic if you took one or report to Anet

Yes, I know its not a hack, but killing our repair NPC when fierce battles are on going doesn’t help. I’m not complaining, just giving feedback. Doesn’t reflect well more on their guilds rather than the server

Peace out

YB, you have 3 guys in CD BL killing our NPCs in spawn, please deal with them or they sully your server’s name. From LOS & FIST

The only server that has grounds to grieve is SBI. They were suppose to go down to T5 this seek, and suddenly, they are thrown against a Dragonbrand that is pushing to T1, and not to mention Mag, who have walked all over them before

Aitadis.8269:

I have video of the CD mesmer wallhacking ports through gates which includes his toon and account name but idk if I should post it on forums or not, already gotten warned of posting about botters

I wont post link for video on forums but if u msg me in game ill give you link there, he hasnt been banned yet either.

Thank you for your response. This guy was kicked from his guild and mass reported awhile back. And he was seen running in that group that got into SMC & SOS Keep, so we have done our part, its up to anet now

Nobody in CD is condoning it, and we are taking active measures to report and even video anyone we saw using exploits, if that is not enough, I don’t know what is.

This is not about server vs server, its about honest players against exploiters/hackers, we help each other weed it out, and that is it. If you find someone using exploits/hacks on our side, let us know. Like wise, we will do the same. No reason to smear the honest players in each server over such things, I expected SoS to be better than this

vinceftw.5086:

Seems like a thief, not a ranger. And he probably has the protection buff from being close to the homebase. Do you even WvW?

And that spot is not suppose to give you that buff. Does it matter which class that is?

declan.3968:

If you have to report one every week or so, it shows poor cohesion on your server for not blocking the abusers out from your system.

So, its the whole server’s fault that we cant stop players from using exploits? Please teach us how to block abusers. I’d gladly pay you for that invaluable knowledge

Argh, SoS you all better reward that guy who jumped in to stop the timer for your lord at Garrison, we were so so close to flipping it. Good fight

JakobGW.5730:

Marquiz.7625:

Because it wasn’t 3 to 1

Besides, points are not important to SoS anyway, so its easy for you to say that. While CD are squeezing out every point we can get to stay above SBI, so yeah, we will stay and clock our points thank you very much

This guy doesn’t speak for all of CD. If you want to fight in open field, send me a whisper any time between 7p.m. and 10p.m. central. I don’t do pre-arranged duels, but I will tell you how many are running with me and what borderland we’re in. Your job is to find us, or we find you, and the battle begins. We usually have on average around 5 total. We’ll typically engage even if the enemy has twice that number. So if you have close to that number and want some open field battles, let me know.

Points are kitten. We are looking for good fights, period. We are [FEAR] and [TKVA] and love a good skirmish. See you on the battlefield.

Well, of course I don’t speak for the server, nobody does. Points may be kittens to you and your guilds, but there are people and big guilds who care about the server standings, so to each their own, no right or wrong. That said, we don’t just sit in towers and sleep. SoS can attest to that, the number of clashes they have had with us in the open

If you and your friends are looking for skirmishes, roll on to SoS BL, nobody goes there anyway, turn some stuff blue and you will have for yourself some fight =)

The Hunter.4516:

Marquiz.7625:

The Hunter.4516:

Yet again CD rely on Arrow carts to defend a tower and a camp..
Come out and fight guys please, you even outnumber us 3 to 1 on our own border come get your loooooot

Ermm, what is the point of capturing a Tower/Camp/Keep if people are just going to abandon it and come out to fight? If you are looking for fights, you should just go PVP

Why sit and hide like little girls when you outnumber us 3 to 1?

Come out and have some fun is all i am saying

Because it wasn’t 3 to 1

Besides, points are not important to SoS anyway, so its easy for you to say that. While CD are squeezing out every point we can get to stay above SBI, so yeah, we will stay and clock our points thank you very much

uberkingkong.8041:

Marquiz.7625:

With this trap. Defending bay in the borderlands is impossible for a low pop server against a high pop server. Go figure

You don’t use anti stealth for defense on a keep, you use anti supply so they cant build siege to knockdown your doors. Anti stealth is really good for after you take a keep and doing a run around to make sure no mesmers are inside.

I’m talking about how it helps high pop attackers, not about defending. Besides, I don’t think the traps are used to find mesmers hiding, they dont stealth for long anyway

Tsk Tsk, 30 man bunker up inside camp to treb outter & inner. 15 man defending Bay sit and wait to die since the option of thief stealth through to take out siege or mesmer portal bomb is out of question when they only need to put two traps to find you

JakobGW.5730:

Marquiz.7625:

JakobGW.5730:

Marquiz.7625:

The Hunter.4516:

Yet again CD rely on Arrow carts to defend a tower and a camp..
Come out and fight guys please, you even outnumber us 3 to 1 on our own border come get your loooooot

Ermm, what is the point of capturing a Tower/Camp/Keep if people are just going to abandon it and come out to fight? If you are looking for fights, you should just go PVP

Wait. . . Are you saying that you only WvW to kill NPC’s? If so, PVE is that way —-——>

Well, I guess the logic of waiting for you to call your zerg to come so that they don’t hit somewhere we don’t want them to hit is too complicated for you to understand

What?

I have two responses:

1. What does calling for a zerg have anything to do with what you said about going to PVP and not WvW if you just want fights?

2. I don’t zerg nor do I call for zergs. Ever.

1. People choose to sit in towers of your borderland because they are clocking the points, and hoping to pull your people to them so that your people don’t hit somewhere they don’t want. So don’t complaint when they bunker in and use acs instead of coming out to fight, in response to The Hunter’s comment

2. Doesnt have to be you, as long as someone does, its job done, or you could leave that tower as it is, and let ppl clock the ppts

JakobGW.5730:

Marquiz.7625:

The Hunter.4516:

Yet again CD rely on Arrow carts to defend a tower and a camp..
Come out and fight guys please, you even outnumber us 3 to 1 on our own border come get your loooooot

Ermm, what is the point of capturing a Tower/Camp/Keep if people are just going to abandon it and come out to fight? If you are looking for fights, you should just go PVP

Wait. . . Are you saying that you only WvW to kill NPC’s? If so, PVE is that way —-——>

Well, I guess the logic of waiting for you to call your zerg to come so that they don’t hit somewhere we don’t want them to hit is too complicated for you to understand

With this trap. Defending bay in the borderlands is impossible for a low pop server against a high pop server. Go figure

The Hunter.4516:

Yet again CD rely on Arrow carts to defend a tower and a camp..
Come out and fight guys please, you even outnumber us 3 to 1 on our own border come get your loooooot

Ermm, what is the point of capturing a Tower/Camp/Keep if people are just going to abandon it and come out to fight? If you are looking for fights, you should just go PVP

VanysRonz.4061:

Nice tactic by CD for sending a guy to kill our golem in our citadel, great job

Which guild was he from?

Also, SoS had 2 person in our spawn point in EB too, from LeeT & LOD

BulletNG.7069:

Lastnight I was fighting against a thief with two other players, so 3 vs 1. After about a minute he stealthed and ran away (like they usually do). Of course I started chasing after him thinking my friends were right behind me. Little did I know I got destroyed after his random stealth spike bomb upon me. He somehow obtained all his health back in a few seconds.

Its not hard to figure it out how the thief get his health back

> They didn’t have much to begin with in the first place

Rising Dusk.2408:

Maladon.5760:

Bottom line is that we didn’t get it done this week, nothing more.

It’s also worth noting that how our enemies play directly affects how we play. In previous weeks, a lot of fighting was done over CD’s holdings; for instance both SoS and SBI would roll through AP / Mendons / OW constantly. In this week, a lot of focus is being put on Durios, QL, and Bravost, and this is just in EB (which keeps us out of SM). We’ve been seeing a lot more pressure on our BL as well.

I personally enjoy it more this way because it teaches us more as players and as a community, and it’s more fun because there’s a lot more bags to loot. That said, we have work to do, and we know it.

Well, if you look at what is happening, SoS is taking turns at wiping CD & SBI. Even for the BLs. When they are done wth one of us, they move to another. So it is not that they are picking on SBI, not at all

pixieish.9627:

Oh yes, that sounds absolutely fun. Gather a group of players to attack a tower. Supply up. Step on a trap. Everyone has to run back to the supply camp. Repeat ad infinitum while a Dev posts that traps are just a first step and over the next few months there will be a patch to include metal detectors that can spot a trap while you slowly walk around.

They have already tested this mechanic in guild rush where you can reveal traps. So it is quite possible =p

Oh no, we are getting treb, we only have 20 man and they have 50 and just waiting for the wall to be down before charging in. Come thiefs, lets stealth behind them and get those trebs. Refuge and jumps down but before you come to within range of the treb you get unstealth by the traps and trampled, because they had 50 people and each person only had to get 1 trap and they can cover a huge area, no matter how small the trap effect is.

This new addition will help those with big numbers, period. You have less people, you can just sit and wait to die

I am alright with the power increase, but the range is broken. An AC built on the wall of a tower can almost reach the maxmum range of a cata. Making using catas to take down walls very difficult. I’ll try get kitten and post it

CreativeAnarchy.6324:

There should be a new type of ram blueprint to purchase. One that has a roof for just the operator that will protect against arrow carts. It should only protect the operator and protect against arrowcarts.

With this, you will see 10 rams down there instead of the standard 2 or 3, and watch your gate melt as you hopelessly try to rain arrow on them. And if you only have <10 people defending, and the zerg out there has around 30, you are basically helpless, except pray that help comes, and comes within 1min

So, I don’t agree with this

Not saying it is perfect now, but people will always find ways to deal with it.

Hmm… Somehow, I feel it should be the other way round

When your gates get tagged, your Tower/Keep/Castle will show it being contested. But your waypoint will only get blocked after 30 seconds

Then again, what was the purpose of introducing this 30 seconds? Is it to help attackers or defenders?

fishball.7204:

CD fielded some amazing numbers tonight on EB. We had a lot of fun fighting you and people that say T4 has no fights really don’t know what they’re talking about.

Haha, we were trying to take your keep, but SBI keeps poking our back and we had to back off a few times, finally got tired and past our bedtime, so had to give up. Had SBI left us alone for 30mins we would have made a good sustained attempt to grab the keep

Maybe they can introduce some /voteban feature? Say maybe if 20 people on the wvw map vote to ban a certain individual, that person will be kicked from the wvw map and not able to enter for a certain period of time?

Seren.6850:

As opposed to KoME who not only rezzes the mesmers through walls, but then takes the known exploited portal, takes the tower knowing they have only got in via exploits, then tells anyone that questions there behavior it wasn’t exploiting it was clever use of tactics, then kicks one guy and pretends they never said it was clever use of tactics, pretends they never took those portals, pretends they never took those keeps.

You want to get your rep back, at least own up for doing it instead of blaming it on one guy like they forced you to rez, take the portals and cap the towers.

Now we are moving on, can’t believe you guys try to justify that crap

Nobody pretended that it didnt happen, it did. Where did you see that we said it never happened?

Seren.6850:

from last weeks thread from one of your fellow server mates.

“I’m actually from CD, and unfortunately KoME has a history of leaving dead Mesmers in front of the inner side of gates to portal exploit. It’s also something they’ve defended in the past as “a clever use of game mechanics”. Sadly…apart from this, I’ve always considered KoME a very respectable and friendly guild and dislike that they’re tarnishing their reputation like this.”

Should explain my tone.

I believe the issue on hand is about a troll siege capping you. Just because an ex-member did something before doesn’t mean you can point your finger at us for everything.

Beside, someone has now said that troll was already in your server before you came down, so your tone is unwarranted

I have seen a sos mesmer die at gate before and almost got ress-ed from outside, should I say sos endorses every exploit out there too?

Well, there are JPs in the borderlands too which nobody guards. And it takes less than 10mins to complete. So there is no point in forcing your way through a guarded EB JP, except if you like the challenge

Burnfall.9573:

Marquiz and Dual, I’m a Ranger; don’t know where you came about me being an elementist class. but it’s ok.
If you had paid attention to the video. he clearly states the rangers he easily killed numerous times as being “squishy”.

Just to add, we have been called many names; “squishy”, “complainers”, “clueless”, “dumb” etc

It’s obvious if you’re a thief this shouldn’t sound new to you.

Being squishy is a choice, not something forced upon you =)

Take a look at this ranger, he knew exactly what the thief was going to do and where to look.

Is it bad to ask if there is a mesmer in JP? No

Is there a bad time to ask if there is a mesmer in JP? Yes

Just make sure your side is not desperately defending something before you ask. Asking for mesmer in JP when a zerg army is knocking on your keep’s door is a sure fire way of getting……

Yuki Chuki.2457:

Marquiz.7625:

Bottomline, everyone knows that a theif is likely to do a stealth stomp, so l2p that it is better off throwing aoe around ur downed teammate instead of ressing him/her. I don’t get why some people only think of ressing and see no other alternatives

But isn’t that kind of a win/win situation for the thief? I can either try to rez my buddy which then gets killed or i can spam my AoEs, the thief just waits outside of them and as soon as he comes out of stealth, my budy’s still lying on the ground and I have half my skills on cooldown. Admittedly it’d work in bigger groups. But as far as i can see, in a small team, there are just bad and worse things one could do in that situation, no “I can turn this to my advantage”.

Well, the thief can only stealth for 4 seconds apart from refuge, (and refuge itself can be a death sentence for a thief sometimes) so if you are standing there dropping aoe beside ur downed team mate who is healing himself, the thief has to choose to come in take the dmg and do the stomp or reveal himself to try to attack. Just have your cc skills ready, you know where he is and when he is coming out, that is good enough for you to kill him.

And for the last time, its wvw, you don’t have to go kill that lone ranger running around. People get get too fixated about making that one kill that they run after it without thinking, and that is what the thief wants. You can blame nobody when you choose to walk into an environment suitable for your opponent. And trust me, a good thief only pick specific targets, and if you know you are in that list, the more you should stay close within a crowd.

And lastly, if the thief is so OP, wouldn’t everyone be using it? If everyone who makes a thief can do what the guy in the video did, I will say thief is OP

Burnfall.9573:

Here is Hard Evidence in supporting your claims OP.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCWywAXmVP4

Than again, who would “Dare” question them in needing nerfs?

Well, the Ele in the video showed exactly how to stop a thief didnt he? If only at least 1 of his team mates was more aware of what to do instead of trying to blindly ress someone with a theif around.

Bottomline, everyone knows that a theif is likely to do a stealth stomp, so l2p that it is better off throwing aoe around ur downed teammate instead of ressing him/her. I don’t get why some people only think of ressing and see no other alternatives

Yams.6082:

I’m guessing the guilds that were rumoured to be leaving actually followed through. CD usually manages to take the lead (ahead of SBI) reset weekend.

Well, its not a rumor, its true. But that said, we will continue fighting!

George Steel.1804:

Solo defense approx 1AM on EB versus poor Crystal Desert.

Literally a 1v8 (only one or two upleveleds), dragged some back to guards, ended up stomping out about seven total.. too bad the others ended up rezzing and running back to zerg me

Anyways, was fun owning you poor CD’s…..

The only thing I see here is you dead

Well, golem rushing against a server in their non-existent time zone coverage and have enough time to fully upgrade it and stock up to prepare for defence doesn’t prove anything except you have superior numbers against a specific time zone.

CD took all of SBI BL but nobody came out to say anything, because that was what it was, we had more numbers and that was it, nobody was better or anything. So there was nothing to prove or gloat about