Guild Wars 2

tfwzyko.3516:

I bought dusk for 600g and a few days before it was announced you could craft precursors soon.

You don’t see me crying (externally…)

When you see the mats requirements you will be happy it was only 600G propably And please what is 600G? 12 days of casual CoF farming, and half of that in hardcore mode? Too bad CoF farming is going away. Actualy one of fun PvE content you could turn off your brain, turn on Modern Talking – Cheri Cheri Lady and slaughter through enemies gaining worthwile reward.

And yes, people who’ve invested 20 laurels into Gold Find infusion should get refund. Because stat is useless after 6th aug. It doesn’t matter if they’ve farmed 10 legendaries with it or 5G. They’ve paid time-based currency for item sacrificing other valuable stats that lost it’s purpose. And no I didn’t infuse my neck with gold find.

I’m not entirely sure what changes they’ve made for candidate trials you’re talking about but we did it in day 4 or 5 after update. 1 decent guardian was kiting mobs arround south island and other 4 guys were killing plunderers and ocassional vets that spawned right on top of us. Piece of cake actualy.

It’s just impossible to kill all the vets – especialy with crapton of conditions they’re applying – so why even bother?

Question to ANet is – Will it be possible to get ALL skins on one account?

I didn’t receive any skin from achievement chest (the one for 1000pts, right?). Or I have no clue where to look for it, which may be the case too.

This RNG is such a bullkitten. I wouldn’t complain if I could simply buy tickets from other players, but no. I’ve opened over 8000 chests yesterday and you know what? 1 ticket. ONE. If I sold all these chests I would get 100+ gold if I sold them yesterday, and 300+gold If I sold them regulary from the beggining of the event. Frustrated I’ve even bought few chests for gems… outcome? Most expensive 200 Zhaitaffy (yes, all paid chests dropped only these too!) of my life. I’m out, the only thing to collect in GW2 are weapon skins and kittened system is preventing from collecting them unless RNG god picks you since there is no other factor involved. And I wouldn’t propably complain too much but it’s TIME LIMITED…

Max Lexandre.6279:

Then what’s the point of Repair in WvW? We die alot, and repairs aren’t cheap in cap level, also there isn’t enough loot or rewards to pay even 30% of an repair. =/

MAYBE ~~ New Repair Costs in WvW. ~~

I can’t answer you for that question, because I WvW 20/7 and I allways leave with 1-2g ahead after all repair bills. Not to mention free siege machines.

Funny, I find it way stronger than Dagger Storm or Balthazar Hounds.

Ascari.2839:

Marrond.1385:

I would like them to remove every possible PvE content from WvW so we could avoid PvE carebears in PvP at all. Double win situation.

You’d still get all sorts of people in WvW every other month if only for the fact that everyone who wants the monthly achievement needs to kill 50 players in WvW.

You won’t believe but there is solution to that too! 2 monthly achievements where you can pick which one you want to do – but you can’t make 2. Only one or another, with exactly the same reward. Bam – no PvE useless players in WvW.

I have 1000x more respect to player who freshly joins WvW and is really intrested in how things works and start to learn instead of scm that joins and ask “where is zerg?”.

travosaga.6089:

Freyar.3254:

WvWvW cannot become the go-to place for earning gold. There has got to be a penalty there to even out the increased earning potential for dealing with many different events in rapid succession.

Except it already is that way since it tends to be feast or famine. One server crushes while they other 2 don’t bother. Maybe if you didn’t have to pay 2 silver for every death, people would be more inclined to fight the good fight.

All I can say that repair prices aren’t the factor that discencourages players from participating. People just don’t like to lose, that’s all. When you have even fight or you’re winning there are WvW 4-5hr queues. When you get stomped people are quitting to the point where outnubered buff occurs.

UncleThomson.6428:

Uh… either my preview function is broken, or the dungeon armor for each dungeon looks exactly the same.

Every vendor have cheap “lookingexactlythesame” armor items for 30-40 dungeon coins and there is 2nd tab where you need 300-400 coins per item. This is what you’re looking for – 2nd tab. But yeah I find most armors in this game uninteresting too…

Fay.2735:

I like to walk everywhere, experience the world. I don’t often use waypoints because they ruin the immersion and mounts will do the same. They disconnect you from the content and that sense of threat/vulnerability when you walk through the world.

So basicaly you don’t want something you infact don’t have to use if you find it breaking your immersion, but you’re not letting people to play way they want because YOU find it wrong (yet you don’t have to use it). I would call this woman’s logic but womans have much more logic.

silvermember.8941:

Also to all those people saying, other MMO had it, so? Other MMO have the trinity but that isnt in the game, nor are 8 rolls of skill.

If you don’t see trinity here then you’re blind. All the change is there is no tank class, dps class and healer class. Instead you have vitality/toughnes on the frontline, power/precision and support speced safe behind (as it was in GW1). Nothing has changed. Stuff isn’t so much class bound but it’s still there. This is how things work. You can name it diffrent but you won’t change meta without changing gameplay.

And yes, there is roll of skills, in this case of 4, not 8 (ever played ranged character? put macro on while attacking big bad mojo, go do something less boring, comeback, loot)

silvermember.8941:

Except for the clutter direct trades cause on chat. The reason why they will never ever have a direct trade is because the TP act as a way to gold sink and it allows them to easily track each trade.

You see, TP is awesome but except for 15% fee it’s major source of inflation. It speedup economy even more because it’s global. It’s still possible to make money with TP but playing with TP is not fun at all. Just as it wasn’t in Diablo 3 where most money was made by people who played maybe 20hrs and just keept monitoring AH.

Before TP I could make easy gold or trade resources based on supply and demand on my server. Now we have infinite supply from TP and none-low demand. Basic economics. Trading across the servers are awesome but having TP creates need for many goldsinks. And goldsinks while needed are NOT cool.

gduber.9756:

I based my theory on my own experience in forum boards with this game and other MMOs. I’ve rarely (if ever) seen anyone request that more revealing clothes be added for male toons, or read posts where people admired the sexiness of a male toon.

Well what I can tell you from my experience, male characters are broken in many MMO in term of look and creation posibilities. In almost any game female model have more options to pick from. I’ve played most MMOs out there and GW2 is first after EVE where I actualy play male character. Just because I am possible to create something remotely similar to myself. In most games male characters are just ugly. GW2 isn’t perfect either but male customization is far better than in other MMOs.

Wazabi.1439:

Much like many that whines about things being broken when it is they who failed to master it.

Well there are many broken things in WvW that are valid and have nothing to do with skill. For example Retaliation vs Siege machines is broken. Not because someone is good or bad. It’s because anty-infantry weapon is rendered useless vs infantry and because there is no way to counter this, i.e. you can’t put retaliation on your gates and why is gonna be fixed. This is why people invented catapulting gate from inside, because of knockback and shttons HP catapult has.

How about dying and repair costs? Simply play smarter. As I’ve mentioned WvW is my main source of gold income.

Canoas.8423:

Sometimes a people get a new gear and talk about it? I honestly don’t understand how the concept is so hard to comprehend.

Hah, I’m just teasing with you

Wazabi.1439:

I tried WvW for the first time….don’t think it’s too hard to not die….

It is hard if you’re completely braindead. WvW is mostly filled with braindead people so I can see why there are complains for that aspect of WvW.

Canoas.8423:

Because I have a friends and a guildmates who don’t follow me around wherever I go?

You like to look at them? Take a picture? I have picture of my girlfriend, sure it’s not as good as she is herself but that’s all I have when we are nowhere near to each other sometimes :P

DrakeWurrum.6049:

Not sure quite what you mean there.

Upvoting your idea with my reasoning after using only a 1 handed weapon, sword in this particular case.

runeblade.7514:

Low level players are driven away from WvW? I want this to happen, I can join WvW faster.

I want this to happen, my WvW experience would just skyrocket!

OP have valid point. I don’t have problems with spending money on WvW – actualy for the last week I’ve lost arround 10 gold. The problem is many people have no clue how to make money in this game or are so bad at WvW that they lost everything on repairs. Sadly there are more people who are not willing to spend coin rather than people like me who do this actively. There are Badges of Honor. You can get WvW gear for them, you can get Siege equipment for them. Why would you not be able to upgrade objects for it? That’s beyond me.

Also siege equipment is easy to obtain. You’ve got plenty for daily puzzles as well as drop from NPC – for example yesterday I’ve found 3 siege golems (1g or 100 badges each) from puzzle and today I’ve looted Trebuchet (24s or 24 badges) blueprint from some npc in supply camp – not to mention all that rams, arrow carts, balistas and catapults. Also I have 400 badges for playing WvW every day for one week.

The only problem with currency I can see is that badges can’t be used to upgrade castle/keep/tower/camp. While I agree with all that goldsink stuff, etc. this introduces problem that remotely connects to pay2win just not for such great scale (upgrades aren’t very powerfull but if you lack them you’re pretty much screwed)

Malloway.7382:

Take care of those two things and gold wont be a issue in WvW anymore.

Gold isn’t issue in WvW. Actualy this is my main source of income. I don’t have time nor willing to play with TP and I still end up 2g ahead per day and that’s when I’m not tryharding and after I paid my repair bills.

The issue is in any other case than upgrades you can use either money or badges. Hovewer in that most important case you need use only gold. Now that’s broken.

And I would like that minimal price for item would be no less than vendor price AFTER adding fee and 1c. That would prevent braindead people’s pocket from loss and make me possible to get 1c more for every worthless item I drop xD

Latinkuro.9420:

I do NOT approve of macro;s in GW2 specially if it means becoming the game you just described to me above….!

Technicaly it already is. If you’re ranged all you need to do is to rotate skills with automatic macro and you can go sleep until enemy is down. But as he said there’s no point nor reason to do that.

Canoas.8423:

Because gear looks different depending on race/gender/dyes used. You can’t see what a character looks like without being next to him.

And what is the point of inspecting the player that isn’t next to you? I have nothing against I just don’t see any reason to bother with. If you want to check how certain armour look on diffrent class and gender there should be an option in preview window to select model. Actualy I have few ideas for preview feature I will cover later on. (yeah I love cosmetics)

Can’t happen. You wouldn’t use their glorified 15% fee on sold items. NEVER TOUCH THE GOLDSINK… but don’t worry in exchange they gonna explain you that it’s for your safety and you should use mail if TP doesn’t appeal to you. facepalm

montie.2415:

How about just add more armor!

That’s what we’re talking about.

Mostly because sPvP isn’t anyhow connected to the PvE. That’s just diffrent character with same name that looks the same.

However I was struggling with the same PvE boredoom as you – all I can recommend is go straight WvW, get organized group (organized group =/= braindead zerg) and you will skyrocket. I left PvE at 30 and never came back – was 80 in no time.

SteepledHat.1345:

Once everyone get’s them they aren’t really unique.

At some point everyone will have Legendary items and therefore they won’t be legendary anymore… oh wait.

When I see something nice and ask (this is how I found skin for my medium armour – Duelist for male ) people allways answer. When I ask for build they alt+tab and give me link (sadly not many of them ever heard of shortening links but oh well I’m thankfull anyway) with whole build. Not sure why should Inspect exist. There are no unique armours in terms of stats, and dungeons can be done with glass cannon builds. It all goes down to player. Because how do you exactly know what’s experience of the player you’re inspecting? How do you know if he maybe would do better than you with only 11k hp on lvl 80 with full Berserker gear of Divinity? Or how would you be able to judge that seeing a guy with support build? I’m very curious, really.

thebigredone.1269:

Would promote role-play behaviour (go to the marketplace to buy stuff), and it would clean up the /map chat for the people who want to discuss other things there.

And what exactly would you want to discuss on /map? Who you are to say what should and should not be written on the /map chat? Don’t like it, don’t read it. There are more harmfull things that other players do to each other in this game (Seriously, I don’t want braindead “where is zerg” people on WvW nor USELESS PvE’rs but who will reduce freedom of other players to pleasure me?) and lately gold spammers. If someone don’t want to use TP you have no right to tell him to GTFO. It’s not your circus nor your monkeys.

Draennon.8576:

Plate armor is not supposed to look sexy, it’s supposed to protect your butt.

And there was no such thing like a woman in plate armour either. Well there was one but she was killed quickly enough (J.D’arc). Want argue further?

Fartbake.4507:

I mean as an example. a spellcaster doesnt ‘technically need’ practical protective gear because they can defend themselves via other means; aka, magic

I will try to explain that to another Elementalist, Necromancer and Mesmer before I will faceroll through them. Oh wait.

And that thing about Warrior need to have heavy armour. Guardian perhaps yea, but Warrior? Did you see a Spartan Warrior wearing an armour? And perhaps do you know that they steamrolled whole Greece? Or on the other hand did you ever heard such term as “wanderer” perhaps? No?

Seriously, just stop putting your non-existent real life arguments into the game. Especialy if you can’t even do it right.

Nurse.1085:

As a woman, I’m going to have to agree with more attractive looking armor. I like my character to look pretty and dare I say, sexy. Not like a kitten, but just…feminine.

See? Even a woman see there’s an issue. Also she uses “femine” word near “sexy”. Furthermore her nickname is Nurse

ropestar.7645:

I think these features should be removed, and the primary reason is because the zerging of events are unfun.

You just forgot to mention that whole PvE is boring, unfun and is mainly created with zerging in mind. Tried to kill any world boss? What exactly do you need to do in order so besides to stand in place and pop 1, 2, 3, 4 or whatever your skills are? (exception with fire elemental in Asura’s place, that bad mojo throws small elementals at you as well as some deadly AoE – maybe this is why people call it hardest boss in the game, because it actualy requires them to MOVE?) It would look like this no matter how many players you had because they’re not even targeting anyone. How about smaller event bosses? All you do is throw all your stuff at them and they die. What is playing smarter? Throw a heal? Make an evade? Some enemies are designed this way so you can’t pick them alone or with group of 2 or 3 people. This is why it’s called group event.

Besides personaly I find it funny to be alone on the map (atleast it looks like this) and then event popup and people come out of nowhere and I’m then like this -> O.O

Oh by the way anyone ever heard of Perfect World? Yeah some bad Asian P2W MMO. But one thing there was ultimately awesome – one person with specific male race could transform into tiger/lion/or_something_like_that and another person could mount him. How about Asura can jump onto Charr’s back and then Charr get swiftness?

BananaMatrix.3702:

I’m sorry, but a leather jacket and a g-string metal bikini

Why would anyone want g-string metal bikini to begin with? Sexier doesn’t mean bikini/naked/put_your_definition. If people would want to see metal strings they would go play Tera. Sexier doesn’t mean that huge jump from what we have now. Noone would hurt from a bit more femine armours.

And by the way check out Human Female Thief armour in creation kit – it’s Duelist (78 exotic? yeah something arround that lvl). On male it looks AWESOME (I use it ). On female it’s not sexy. It reaveals but it’s ultimate ugly. It looks more like BDSM latex costume than ninja/assassin/thief’s costume. On the other hand check female medium armour from dungeon C.Mannor. That one is looking pretty well, but it slightly lack a femine touch in it. You see it’s all about balance. Not about showing naked butt.

No i’m not telling they can’t do this because they would have to redone whole skills. That’s the reason because of they WON’T do it (unless maybe in expansion). I would really like to see more weapons for more classes. If you wanted to point out post “no because no” then you quoted wrong one.

NeoOmniX.8021:

Well holding the button is needed because otherwise we would not be able to surf the inventory easily…

Please don’t act so short minded. Why exactly wouldn’t I be able to surf in inventory? I press I to open inventory and tadaaaaaam – my cursor reappears – quit – my cursor disappears – simple as that. Please use imagination or atleast play other games than the one and only you favor.

(it was working in Tera, I have completely no idea why it wouldn’t work here)

Actualy people did it with scripting – just visit reddit. Problem is ANet didn’t put any statement about if it’s legal or not.

And I asure you GW2 controls are VERY old and clumsy in comparisment to how could they be (with completely 0 change into game mechanics).

As for AoE – you could cast it where center of your screen is or hold alt for example to make your cursor to appear and start moving it from the center of the screen (so it won’t be like you aim somewhere, press button and your cursor is in completely diffrent place). This is just in case when you need to launch AoE from arround the corner or want to throw it behind you. Anyway the way how character moves should be diffrent so i don’t have to rotate camera behind me in order to run and throw spells behind me. Anyone here played Dark Souls or Demon’s Souls? That system would be perfect (with character allways facing the enemy when you lock target on him and when you drop target lock you could run in the direction you press keys, i.e. pressing S wouldn’t make you to move backwards but actualy face the camera and run that way – you would move backwards if target locked on enemy infront of you – and that’s just one basic idea and there are so many more options to make controls more fluent).

BananaMatrix.3702:

Is THAT supposed to protect them? I don’t think so! >.>

And how exactly is leather jacket going to protect anyone? Hmm? How about that skirt of mage? That won’t even protect him from cold, not to mention sword.

It’s a game. A fantasy. Nothing to do with reality. If one want to run arround naked – that’s his choice. After all he’s watching at his character ALL THE TIME. And you maybe will see it briefly or never.

Sure, skimpy armors for males as well, why not. I also believe there should be an “armor” (chest piece) that simply add some fancy battle tatoo to your chest (why exactly only Norn can have tatoo?) – since it’s all matter of look not actual item (all items have same stats and look is all that realy matters). Also there should be option for males to hide chest piece at all. Just to show off that gorgeous chest and six-pack – and combined with Vigil’s helm we would create a Spartan warrior. Just cape needed :P

Also I wish my warrior could wear parts of medieval scoth kilt. Just because I like the idea.

Idea is great although I believe it should be INCLUDED into current storage upgrade. I mean you have basic 1 storage and 250 for collectibles, right? So you buy upgrade for your storage and you receive another box as well as ANOTHER 250 for collectibles which result in stacks of 500 (or if this is problematic and stacks are fixed to max 250 in the game then another tab of collectibles and so on)

1h sword with no offhand should have diffrent skill setup. It should have skills that fits swiftness and grace of wanderer whilist sword+shield are representing the tough soldier.

Problem with GW2 controls is that they aren’t fitting WSAD because you can’t use such feature as mouselook unless you hold right mouse button ALL THE TIME ( >.> ) and you still have to click on things. And they are not fitting clicking too because clicking doesn’t work for anything except for setting AoE or targeting enemies… we’re in the empty space between these two where neither of them works.

With no doubt controls require some attention and love from ANet.

Sairenkao.6485:

I don’t like the idea of Rangers using whips. I imagine a Ranger is on good, friendly terms with their pets. I can’t imagine them whipping pets…

Ranger doesn’t need it to conduct pets. Ranger is not pet master – sure he have pets, but as a loyal friend not a minion. You should more think of a Indiana Johnes – he had a whip, yea? Now imagine that awesomenes on your Ranger. Yeah, it’s awesome :P

Lord Jaguar.9504:

3) Bring in traditional and totally unique games. I want to see Texas Hold ‘Em, sure, but I wouldn’t mind seeing Asuran Polydiagonal Chess either.

How about The Witcher’s Dice Poker with White Wolf neckacle prize? (The Witcher fanboy from Poland here )

Campana.9216:

Is there a /roll or /dice feature? This would be the easiest thing to ask for that would allow groups of players to create their own gambling game in a tavern somewhere in Lion’s Arch.

I have memories of a player on Dark Crag in WAR standing on a tent and conducting some game of chance (I forget what) with in game gold. It was quite popular.

Yeah it would be much easier to get /dice, but that wouldn’t create much needed moneysink (moneysinks are ok unless they’re reducing your freedom just as waypoints do) And casino would take their share from prizes.

coffeemancer.2450:

Detahmaio.2014:

coffeemancer.2450:

“Try play some WvW and you will see how fast your money will drop (repair bills)”

… dying in WvW breaks your armor?

Yes it does.

Well umm… wow. Unbelievable. Hopefully this gets patched out fast.

The solution is to stop mindlessly zerging and start playing smart. I’ve made 15g just by WvW’ing (and that’s after all repair costs).

Also +1 for gambling house! (player driven + taxes)

Tavern in Pirate’s Bay (there’s none? introduce it! you might also use that torrent’s site allusions as well ) – a gambling heaven! Great moneysink and great fun. Also a lottery would be great so someone lucky can be actualy someone rich as well But one thing – everything should be player driven. I mean there should be no money generator – and except for few initial startup donations from ANet everything should work off player’s pocket. So lottery will get bigger the more people buy tickets, etc.

Just Person.6731:

Great idea, but the easiest way to do this – build a casino in LA. Pirates will love it.

You sir are my personal hero today

SNAFU.3751:

Now that would be a good idea and something worth purchasing.

It’s silly that you pay 100g for being mobile POI on map. It doesn’t have any sense and have nothing even remotely to do with commanding or being a commander. Also not everyone who purchased commander should be one. There should be hierarchy and vote system so people would pick commanders out of many and they would pick their leader (master commander?). Also to make it have sense there should be capped number of commanders on map. Commander should be able to form squads that people can join and he should be able to give orders and draw on the map for every squad separately as well as one order or drawing for everyone. He should be able to see every squad member on the map as well as have diffrent color for them. Squads should work separately from party feature. Also there should be vote system to dismiss bad commander, only if there’s another free commander available on the map. Also people SHOULD be forced to get into squad. If there’s not enough commanders on the map then squadcap per commander should increase or if there’s only one commander then he should command them all. People should be able to change squads and commander should be able to set description for every squad, i.e.: “Squad Omega takes camps behind enemy lines”, “Squad Delta is scouting the map”, etc. so everyone can fit in their role. It would greately improve WvW organisation including random players. Sure it is all possible to get organised WvW filling it with alliance but that’s not the point and you don’t need commander book for that at all.

That would be commanding. Moving POI isn’t commanding it’s just where zerg of random people goes. Anyone remeber Battlefield 2 commander? Now tripple that and bring it into WvW.

By the way things I mention were included in similar way into MAG (PS3 FPS game with huge maps and hierarhy system that worked out pretty well with all those random players)

Patches.4210:

Anet has themselves in interviews said that they have been looking a e-sport for their PvP, which feels more like it’s geared towards e-sport? sPvP and tournaments or WvW? ^^

WvW feel more complex and require something more than simply an ability to kill enemy. sPvP feels more torunament because did you EVER saw tournament match bigger than 5v5? It’s not because 5v5 is more skillfull. It’s because hosting more people would be problematic. If there would be tournaments that cover 50v50 people then we would watch Red Orchestra matches instead of Counter Strike. Not to meniton it’s way easier to gather 5 people than 50 (and way easier to command, require alot less organization and discipline) – also it’s easier to track spoils of this team-chain.

Lord Jaguar.9504:

Sethren.8472:

One of my biggest “likes” about GW2 is the absence of raids. The meta-events fulfill the “take down the big bad mojo” element of raiding without forcing someone to experience the “second job” element that often comes with raiding: “be here at X time, have X buffs, we’ll be in there from X to Y for Z amount of days this week, etc.” I love the fact that ANet did not include raids. That’ s just my opinion on the topic though.

Sorry, but it doesn’t. The large dynamic events I have seen so far, with immense bosses and epic fights – zergfests. GW 2 does not bring the elements of skill and strategy into these encounters, so beyond the smoke and mirrors of having a giant, cool looking boss, you get none of the same depth and satisfaction as more traditional raiding.

I think there is a large amount of ignorance, or even hatred, for the raid concept in general based on how other games have mishandled that style of content. I’m not advocating a 6+ month gear progression raid system. I hate that just as much as everyone else.

I’m advocating large PvE encounters (instanced, not instanced, IDGAF) where you need to use your HEAD in order to vanquish the big bad, not just zergit to winnit.

Here you have sir, a keg of beer for you.

This is so much why PvE in GW2 is boring and repetitive. Everything is the same, only look changes. Solution to everything – zerg it. I really miss approach taken by Tera’s creators – diffrent type of enemies had diffrent style of fight you had to adapt to in order to success with.

Nanfoodle.2439:

Refund the fee for commander and let anyone form raids pls.

No, don’t refund. Make everyone available to form big party and make Commander USEFULL. Add more features related to commanding.

Sennar.2309:

boring and usless features

Sounds like a whole PvE for me. Boring and useless.

RudyDemon.8390:

No mounts!

After reading through this thread, I have to say, it just doesnt seem like GW2 was made to implement mounts, and implementing them would trivialize a lot of the content i enjoy. So no go for me. I cannot see mounts in this game. Plus looking at the world, and the design, i think mount would just clutter it up. You can go ahead and say, “well in our world” but this isnt our world, this is Tyria, and i like it without mounts. It isn’t necessary. But thats just my opinion.

Your opinion is valid but I don’t see how anyone would make you to actualy use mounts. Sure you want to travel on foot, that’s fine but what you just said is pure hypocrism. You don’t want people to change your gameplay (and they won’t as I said they can’t make you to use mounts if you don’t want them) but you’re not allowing people to enjoy their game (and for them traveling for 25345234523 minutes nor paying 2-5 silver for teleport is not fun). Remember point of view depend where you’re sitting at the moment.