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told ya it was funmy build is with sinister jewels and phantasm dmg/fury (dropping halting strike and imp. blink), it’s really fun to play and effective
sinister jewels and rabid armor? what about weapons?
I mean, the build works, no doubt about that. But I think the gear is what makes it okish, good or great (that’s the main reason why it doesn’t work that well in pvp, because lack of gear choice)Have you though going full sinister? (or with the majority of pieces, anyway. If you wanna slot in some knight that’s fine).
Is sinister purchasable from TP?
edit. one more question: would it work without travelers? I am not keen in investing on a second travelers set of runes. I already have them on my zerk set and I would be considering something different, like air or pack (I run with focus and those sets gel extremely well with my wepaon choice)
Yeah, rabid (exotic) armor, sinister (ascended jewels), exotic rabid staff and and exotic zerk GS to make up some power and ferocity lacking in the rest of the set.
I tought about going full sinister but I can’t be bothered to craft the armor and buy another set of travelers :P
Not sure if Sinister is purchasable, I got the ascended jewels from the Season 2 achievements (yay pve!).
I think the build only really works for roaming (too much condi removal in big groups) and roaming without traveler’s is… painful. Pack doesn’t really help with off combat mobility.
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told ya it was fun
my build is with sinister jewels and phantasm dmg/fury (dropping halting strike and imp. blink), it’s really fun to play and effective
Why can’t they give us a qol buff to mantras… just sayin
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Since it’s been mentioned, the thread where I was discussing my builds for WvW is here if you want to take a look
Consider that the scenario I made the build for is quite different: I’m running with an organized group, usually about 15 people fighting almost always outnumbered.
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We don’t know.
They talked a lot about how they want to make PVE less boring and more similar to PvP combat. If they manage that, shatters might have a place in PVE. Until I see it in game with my own eyes, I won’t believe it
The more specialization reveals I see, the sadder I am about our two new weapon skills and F5. :<
Anet, it’s still time for that Pistol Mainhand! Bullet Time?
If we had got pistol and shield, then this would have been a great #2 or #3.
Do some funky effect while giving us quickness and enemies slow, possible AoE?
When the projectiles enter the field they slow to a crawl so you can easily outrun them or just walk around and evade them
The biggest issue I see here is that people perceive the Minor to be free. However, this also means forgoing something else. Imagine the speed trait not being a Minor but a Master Major. As a result, Chronomancers probably would have had Danger time as GM Minor. I’m sure a lot less people would complain although it probably is a very comparable set up. Just to give an example for another class with a comparable set up:
Would Engineers want to trade Target the Maimed for speed? Maybe some. But most certainly not all.I’m not saying anything is free. All I’m saying is that it is easier to choose 1 out of 6 trait lines than to choose 1 out of 6 THEN choose 1 out of 3. In reply to your example:
That’s not a comparable set up, because their speed boost is an adept. That’s my entire point: there is NO comparable set up where a profession has a minor trait for a speed boost hence why some people might feel as though our speed boost trait isn’t “on par with other traits”.@Menaka
While I’d love to contest some of the things you said and bring things back on topic (comparing traited speed boosts between classes), I think we’ve reached a point where further communication won’t lead to mutual understanding, and that’s ok. I respect your opinion.
That’s where I think these people are wrong: they are trying to compare 1:1 classes that are completely different (in playstyle, weapon & utility skills, trait synergy, etc), disregarding the fact that you don’t pick a traitline for one single trait (I already made examples about that).
On top of that, we don’t have the full picture of what the other Elite Specs will bring to the game, so it’s really pointless to scream OP right now.
- In terms of traits, Mesmer now has the easiest access to a 25% speed increase. This comes packaged with a fantastic side-effect of reducing some CC conditions. This perceived problem could be alleviated if they made it an Adept/Master trait. i.e. https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/mesmer/Small-Request-Better-Compounding-Celerity/first#post5063503
so we’re to the point where picking an entire traitline is the “easiest access”
Yes. You do know how the revamped trait system will work in the future, correct? Shady rhetorical questions aside, let me ask a real question: which is easier to do, choose a minor trait or an Adept/Master/Grandmaster trait? I guess I wasn’t done with rhetorical questions…
Thing is, picking a spec for that trait? I can’t see it happening to be honest.
As someone pointed out, in organized groups mesmers already have access to swiftness from other classes, so the 25% speed is useless and only the reduction on movement impairing effects will be useful. The only niche where this trait shines is solo/small scale roaming in WvW, but in that scenario our strongest builds will probably still be the “classic” shatter and Duel/Chaos/Illusion condi or hybrid shatters. That rules out Chrono traitline, so you can give up your most efficient build to get the 25% speed (a huge tradeoff) or you can resort to the signet (IF it gets reworked) or the runes.
Maybe you missed the context in my post. On second thought, obviously you did since you’re repeating some things I said verbatim while ignoring some things that you agree with. I never said our trait was OP. I think it’s perfectly fine, but if the issue is that it’s not exactly on par with other speed traits, I can see the rationale.
Thing is… different classes have different traits. If anyone had the same traits, we wouldn’t have different classes, only different builds.
Mesmers until now didn’t have the option to trait for movement speed, now they have the option to trait for it by picking a specific traitline. We don’t know what we’re “giving up” for that minor trait: in other traitlines we have stuff as strong as confusion on crit and 10% damage on vulnerable foes. When people say that a Major would be better because you need to make a choice and pick it over something else, they don’t realize that making it a minor makes it even a bigger choice: minor traits are not something you get “for free”, they define the traitline and you can’t switch them off for something that you would have liked even more. If you want any of the Chronomancer fancy stuff, you’ll be moving faster. To me, it makes sense from a design/lore point.
You’re right though, it is far to early to get into serious heated debates about balancing. It’s all [fun & addictive] speculation until HoT finishes downloading on our computers.
… and for months of fixing and polishing after that
Already zerk even zerk sits at 57-60% crit. Those wasted stats were not with assassins, which is even worse, and the slow uptimes also figure into that power boost being a wash. Even if they break even or are a slight upgrade, it’s hardly a good tier for PvE mesmers.
With that trait and some way to keep Slow during the reflects you can have 100% crit chance (or more) in Zerk gear instead of going Assassin’s, that means you gain power over an Assassin’s set, still having 100% crit on reflects.
Chaos will always be garbage in WvW so long as it’s tied to conditions and staff.
For one, staff is a terrible weapon for aoe as are any weapons that are not greatsword/sword. It will never be used in teamfights.
Please, try to avoid generalization? If you don’t plan on using, or don’t use Staff right now in group fights, it doesn’t mean other mesmers won’t. I find it better than Sw/Focus with my current build and group setup. After the trait changes, Staff will be even stronger. It will probably enable us to join the frontlines again and will synergize very nicely with Sw+Shield in providing control.
You’ll also always be locked into the chronomancy line which leaves Dueling/Domination/Illusion, only 2 of which you can already pick. Chaos will never compete with any of those on a power mesmer.
Really depends on what your role is in your group… if you think you can only play zerk shatter mesmer, well good luck with that
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Compounding power is 9% extra damage, the trait makes it easier to stay at that threshold since you shatter, spawn 2 phantasms and the clone you got back.
The clone you get back is 3% of that damage, you can resummon the phantasms regardless.
Besides 30% crit to slowed targets, for which you need high slowed uptime. Current crit rate on full berk gear is around 57-60%. Food bumps it higher, and with fury you got around 80% crit so taht 30% extra crit from the trait actually has a lot of its bonus wasted.
even if you “waste” 10% crit chance, you would gain power by switching to zerk – assuming the group can provide slow on the reflects.
As far as the speed trait, the condi reduction part is worthless in PvE and it’s a speed bonus that could have been put in signet of midnight considering 10% boon duration on a class that has no access to boons whatsoever outside the Chaos line pretty worthless
so you would rather have PvP/WvW mesmers waste a utility slot instead of PvE mesmers having to “waste” a minor trait… to each his own I guess
And the Chaos line is plain garbage outside dueling/roaming as it isn’t even used for PvE or large scale WvW.
How can you tell it won’t be used in WvW after the changes? Chaos look pretty good from a survival/group support point of view.
- Time Marches On – You move 25% faster. The duration of incoming movement-impairing conditions is reduced by 25%. (Cripple. Chilled, Immobilize)
This one is so op
You do have to remember we got an offhand.
“something just as good”…!
