Guild Wars 2

To the Elementalist from ELE, Goodfight. No, amazing fight. Best fight I’ve had this week. Too bad your companions interrupted it.

insanemaniac.2456:

Mepheles.2087:

insanemaniac.2456:

Mepheles.2087:

Ynot.8397:

Mepheles.2087:

Ynot.8397:

Mepheles.2087:

No honor in outnumbering someone. Come at me like someone who can actually play the game.

You are mad because you got killed by people who outnumbered you. Boohoo.

Yeah, I am a bit irritated. But then I guess their collective skill might actually add up to one person, so in a sense, It was still an even fight.

Oh good, calling them out for doing something that almost everyone does. You do understand that you are the outlier here? This is how the game is played. This is how the game will always be played. If you don’t like getting zerged down, play a thief or change up your warrior to be able to outrun the zerg.

It’s like that. I am fine with getting beat up by the zerg. being destroyed by like 20 people I can deal with. But it’s 6. Not 10, not 15, not 20. 6 is not a zerg, that’s a group of bullies. Same for the two thieves who were sitting outside of our spawn bursting down anyone who came out. It’s not the server. It’s just that group.

if you ran as a 5 man group, would you call a group of 10 that steamrolls your group bullies too?

Of course not. We would expect 5+ groups to put a halt to whatever we’re doing. Taking camps, towers, or whatever. When you intentionally go 6v1, it’s not cool. 5v10, a fight can be had, depending on the overall skills of each groups, but in a 1vx there is no skill to be had.

so youll moan about “hopeless” odds when you prolly have some sign of being a dangerous person who will take camps or whatever… but you would be ok being rolled by a bigger group if your friends do too?

im trying to figure out why youre kittening. is it loneliness? that you dislike being outnumbered? that you have no confidence in your own skills? that you dont find escapes to be an interesting mechanic and so you choose not to run any? or u tryin to drama dis thred n maek it interestin?

You have no idea WHAT you’re talking about do you? Resorting to attacking my personal character is all thats left?

If I remember correctly, that was a group fight, not 6-7 people mercilessly beating on one person. That has nothing to do with the topic at hand. Even if everyone in this game turns into dirty gankers, I’ll still have some semblance of dignity.

But I guess I’m talking to bricks walls reinforced with steel.

Sounds like a plan. Hopefully they can find SOME time to pull it off.

Avatar of Belle.9623:

I haven’t solo roamed in months. It’s much more fun to chatter over TS with your friends! For 1v1, I go to fight night or the dueling spvp servers.

Waiting till thursday is terrible. plus, I feel like I’m a little less balanced in SvP with 3.3k Attack and 24k HP and a ton of crit. lol. I just want to roam for an hour or so, find some decent duels that aren’t with mesmers, and then log. /shrug

If I look at my combat, both thieves together, were hitting me for 4k backstabs + Heartseeker each while keeping me permablinded. I have 3.3k Armor and 20k hp. I am not a thief or mesmer who can steath, nor do I run GS because I really don’t like that weapon. My only options is to stay and die, or fight and die anyway. I am confident in my own abilities, but I also like to roam alone when I’m not seeing that our side needs an extra man. I Enjoy 1v1 fights as they are fairly balanced.

You may say don’t complain about duos, or 5 mans, but then again. If I’m running with 5+ people and the rest of my team is running someone into the ground I don’t join them. I Don’t mess with a 1v1 if I run into one, and I don’t even interrupt enemy spikes. I use to just jump into 1v1’s regardless, but I choose to be a little bit honorable even if my enemy doesn’t see this in the same light. All I ask is if you want a fight you break away from the group and through me a bow, a point, anything at all. I’ll fight you, and I’ll win/lose with honor and take my spike like a man.

insanemaniac.2456:

Mepheles.2087:

Ynot.8397:

Mepheles.2087:

Ynot.8397:

Mepheles.2087:

No honor in outnumbering someone. Come at me like someone who can actually play the game.

You are mad because you got killed by people who outnumbered you. Boohoo.

Yeah, I am a bit irritated. But then I guess their collective skill might actually add up to one person, so in a sense, It was still an even fight.

Oh good, calling them out for doing something that almost everyone does. You do understand that you are the outlier here? This is how the game is played. This is how the game will always be played. If you don’t like getting zerged down, play a thief or change up your warrior to be able to outrun the zerg.

It’s like that. I am fine with getting beat up by the zerg. being destroyed by like 20 people I can deal with. But it’s 6. Not 10, not 15, not 20. 6 is not a zerg, that’s a group of bullies. Same for the two thieves who were sitting outside of our spawn bursting down anyone who came out. It’s not the server. It’s just that group.

if you ran as a 5 man group, would you call a group of 10 that steamrolls your group bullies too?

Of course not. We would expect 5+ groups to put a halt to whatever we’re doing. Taking camps, towers, or whatever. When you intentionally go 6v1, it’s not cool. 5v10, a fight can be had, depending on the overall skills of each groups, but in a 1vx there is no skill to be had.

Ynot.8397:

Mepheles.2087:

Ynot.8397:

Mepheles.2087:

No honor in outnumbering someone. Come at me like someone who can actually play the game.

You are mad because you got killed by people who outnumbered you. Boohoo.

Yeah, I am a bit irritated. But then I guess their collective skill might actually add up to one person, so in a sense, It was still an even fight.

Oh good, calling them out for doing something that almost everyone does. You do understand that you are the outlier here? This is how the game is played. This is how the game will always be played. If you don’t like getting zerged down, play a thief or change up your warrior to be able to outrun the zerg.

It’s like that. I am fine with getting beat up by the zerg. being destroyed by like 20 people I can deal with. But it’s 6. Not 10, not 15, not 20. 6 is not a zerg, that’s a group of bullies. Same for the two thieves who were sitting outside of our spawn bursting down anyone who came out. It’s not the server. It’s just that group.

GoM and AR, we miss you. Well, I do anyway. :/ Can’t find a good 1v1 anywhere…

Ynot.8397:

Mepheles.2087:

No honor in outnumbering someone. Come at me like someone who can actually play the game.

You are mad because you got killed by people who outnumbered you. Boohoo.

Yeah, I am a bit irritated. But then I guess their collective skill might actually add up to one person, so in a sense, It was still an even fight.

No honor in outnumbering someone. Come at me like someone who can actually play the game.

You guys from [WZ], total pros, chasing me down when I got left behind with like 6 people after I stopped the warrior from picking someone off.

Artaz.3819:

BurrTheKing.8571:

Artaz.3819:

Here’s how you shave without gutting the current Stun-Warrior meta:

Take Unsuspecting Foe from Adept in Arms to Grandmaster and move the crit rate in the talent from 50% to 100% – equivalent to Thief Hidden Killer (so it won’t entirely kill the CC meta build but will put it in its place as a CC build and not a CC + burst DPS build).

Take Furious and swap it to the Adept trait and make it so it creates double/triple Adrenaline (not 4x Adrenaline) on crit.

Helps the CC build perform its function and removes the massive spike DPS issue (when coupled with CC).

Like anyone would spec 30 points into Arms ( a trait line that has +condition damage) when using a Hammer or Mace. This wouldn’t balance the trait, it wold simply ensure that it never gets used.

You are forgetting the bonus from the trait works with other stun CC on the target (not just the ones from Warrior’s mace/hammer). It could have a specialized use. If need be, add a secondary bonus when the Warrior hits a non-stunned target (i.e. causes Torment, internal CD 1-second)).

The point is to move the broken OP Adept trait making the build have survivability, CC and burst DPS all in one.

Specialized use = never ever being used again, ever unless for weird combos like Mace/Axe or some crap.

Well, NSP is usually one to start Forum Wars 2, so most other threads with the exception of SBI + BP is relatively tame.

King Amadaeus.8619:

Mepheles.2087:

It’s less even and more like we’re taking shifts. Or hot potato.

Congrats, you just figured out the true nature of WvW: It is a coverage contest. Hence the only way to have close matches is to either exchange shifts, or have the same coverage and/or coverage gaps as your competitors.

Just another reason to /shrug about PPT.

Then I don’t understand the point of people asking for more RNG, when it was relatively fine before.

I don’t have any ideas to add to the discussion. My only hope is that when we are “Balanced” the changes aren’t heavy-handed. MMO’s seem to have this weird vendetta against Warrior archetypes where we get overly-buffed, then nerfed to oblivion and back again…

I always despised Mesmers… My chances of killing them are 1/50 chance… But I’m leveling one and it’s pretty neat.

That’s all I wanted to say

It’s less even and more like we’re taking shifts. Or hot potato.

This back and forth bores me to tears. First we’re strong then SF, then FC, then us again, SF late at night, FC again maybe in the morning, us in the early afternoon, then SF in the late night again… sigh

It’s sunday and it feels like friday…

I see that now, we have no one on and outmanned in eB and most likely our own BL. Wish we could field so many people.

kitten SF, what the hell happened?! you were in first last night with almost 500 PPT and a ton of people in EB and our own BL. O.o

Still, guardian is a guardian. even zerkers won’t go down so easily.

Also wow EB has a queue on it, thats rare.

If you weren’t dying I could understand. Fought a healway guard for at least 20m before I finally downed him.

I don’t run from guardians. I fight them for about 20m then we sit down and talk about builds for a few minutes before going our separate ways :P. DH doesn’t have TOO many soloist though. I know a few I see every day. Free Brownies being one of them. Cannot remember the rest right now for some reason.

Cocoacaine.3720:

It seems whenever I try to incite a fight between SF and DH they both end up ganging up on me

Karma, huehuehue

I wanna be 300% hotter… but I care about DH more than I do about my looks.

Dang SF… just… dang. lol

Mhm. Well, I guess That’s just the bitterness talking.

469 views, and 15 comments. Are our servers really that dead, or is there just nothing to talk about?

Unfortunately, HP For most mobs in the game is unknown I believe…. Why they don’t show us our targets health is beyond me.

Warriors have always been a straightforward class in almost any game to play. They don’t have gimmick mechanics like stealth or clones and boonspam. They get in, smash your face up, and thats it. That’s how Warriors should work. Playing a class like Ele, which means attune shifting is nothing overly complicated. It’s a simple rotation that you could find in any game like WoW for instance. To me complexity, or being a good player means taking a class and being able to do things the devs wouldn’t have even thought of. Taking a simple smash-em class like warrior and do amazing things, no matter how much people whine the stun meta is easy mode, but no one paid it any attention till hammer and mace got buffed, and people finally noticed that sigil was bugged when extensive testing was done. but well you know….

All I’m trying to say is simplicity isn’t anything bad. But trying to force complexity onto classes that weren’t meant to be like that unless built for it by the player is VERY BAD.

Goodfight to those six SF in FC BL who fought me, the Guard and the Thief. Although laughing at the end and jumping on my body was very unsportsmanlike.

I feel like I’m sitting in a ditch with this game… sigh… If leveling wasn’t so mind-numbingly slow and boring past level 30, I’d probably have a crap load of alts… also if Dungeons were non-80 friendly…

More stances. If you can’t take advantage of the trait, then it’s useless Balanced stance and Zerk stance at least have to be used. or Endure pain

What is this? only 7 post and we are almost at the bottom.

apt.9184:

God I just wish they revert warriors back to the old frenzy hb that was good days when kitten players were so easy to spot. I hate now that all these warriors think they are good playing cheesy specs. Oh well I guess I will play DP trickery thief for now since that actually takes skill or maybe evis warrior…

DP
Skill

pick one

Also while this is funny, the creator of said build must have had some success and knows the ins and outs better than anyone. Which brings this full circle of if you make you’re own build, keep it to yourself because most people won’t be able to use it like you do.

still 10/10 vid

I know, sorry. It’s late and there is nothing to do atm… I wanna level this thief, but idk if I should stay with my fem norn or my human male. meh..

Hey all, let’s have a fun match-up.

Please don’t play cheesy builds like Mace + shield/GS, because when the combo gets nerf to the ground, you won’t know what to do with yourself. There are so many weapons to choose one, limiting yourself to 2H is like cutting off an arm.

PVP vs. PvE has always been a source of debate, or rather, a lot of name calling. To me, a game that only has PvE is missing out on half of a potential playerbase, and the same to an only PvP game. Of course, this is different, depending on the game. But to say PVP doesn’t belong in a game is pure bull. PvP modes have existed in MMOs long before Guild Wars 2. They are as naturally part of a game as the eyeballs in our heads. I think people are just tired of having to play with a class that may get nerfed at anytime for PvP reasons. And the same to PvP Players. Honestly, That’s also been apart of MMOs. No one can get it right

But I like it this way. If someone got it right, there would be nothing new to test, or to debate about. Forums would be way less active. Devs should always be trying to find the ideal balance for classes among the many MMOs. Of course people bring up the “Split PvP and PvE by making X ability do Y amount of damage in PvP/PvE and make such and such work differently.” This would work only in Instanced PVP, and would be a much trickier to work in Open World PvP, which a lot of games have.

That’s my opinion anyway

Sounds interesting. I hope they go the alternate reality route.

No. Legendaries are useless weapon skins that aren’t actually weapon skins that cost time and money better spent elsewhere.

I went on build editor and tried to make a super Frozen Guardian build. 3k Attack, 3k Armor, 68% crit damage which isn’t too bad because I’m still pretty defensive. 52% Increased chill duration with 14k HP. Glacial heart proc is 7.6s, and Sigil of Ice is 3s every 10s not to mention chill on hit which is 3s as well, plus sigil of hydromancy. I wish I had a level 80 Guardian to test it out on…. but the crit chance is low, so I’m hoping Oct 18 patch will be able to net us some decent access to fury.

Galtrix.7369:

Mepheles.2087:

You can still use it…. just not as a primary damage tool. At least not these days I guess. It’s good for ringing in people, stopping stomps and rezzes and a decent blast finisher and immob. /shrug. People have just pushed Guardians into their specialty, which is heavy defense and support type. Although I have seen guards 1vX and kill people very easily, so do whatever you want, is my opinionated answer.

That’s the kind of stupid crap that ruins mmorpgs. I played my ranger in PvP today and got roflstomped by a guardian that was wielding a hammer. Do what you want to do. Build the way you want to build… because eventually, you’ll understand the hammer’s mechanics so well that you can make your own build and people will flock to you and ask you what your build is.

Trust me, I’ve seen this done in WoW before. I played a Pally tank, a druid tank, and a shaman healer. Every single time I went into a dungeon with any of those characters, I would get criticized. At the end of the dungeon, they all added me to their friend’s list and wanted to know what build I was using. One of my builds got so popular that it was number 1 on some class build website for a very long time – I’d say close to a year.

I never said it was bad, I just said people will want you to run what they think is more helpful, rather than what is more fun or independent. Which is why I could never do 5v5 or GvG because I like what I like. Like I said, I’ve seen guardians roll people but that’s not enough to convince most people

Klonex.4562:

there’s nothing hard about this dungeon. if you’re having trouble it’s because your party or you are too dense to pay attention to what to do or read chat. you’ll help your party greatly if you see videos of people doing it or even read about it.

to those that ragequit this dungeon: thank you, you provide a slot for better people to join. hopefully those ragequitters end up leaving the game because it’s “too hard”

i absolutely enjoy this dungeon and i really want more content like this.

Gee, thanks for calling me an idiot. I feel so much more reassured that Clockheart isn’t just a giant pain in the kitten , and that I’m too stupid to get anything done, even though we managed to get him to 25% before we fall apart.

sorrow.2364:

I’m done arguing in this subforum.
Too much bias to get something useful from this.
I never learn…

While I would like our class to be both a challenge to fight, and not a just a pain in the kitten while also being fun to play with, It’s hard to come to a decent solution so that warriors aren’t in the state they were in before. Hammer and mace were kinda poop before they got a buff, even back then when burst CD were 8s. no one would have used either weapon. I’d like to see these weapons stay relevant, even after nerfs. Because they will most likely get them no doubt. Survivability, mobility, offensive burst, sustained damage, anti-CC, Anti-Conditions… all this is what makes warrior a warrior. However even I can see that it’s out of hand. We are literally the living version of a Risen Abomination, shrugging off soft and hard CC, and just AOE stunning and KD’ing everything withing 300 range of us. There is no currently visible balance between our offense and defense.

I would LIKE to see us keep Zerker stance and Cleansing Ire as they are. Maybe give zerker stance a bit longer CD, because let’s face it: 3 Conditions every 7 seconds is pretty freaking amazing compared to alot of classes. After that, we can see where things go…. but I don’t think I can trust the devs to not be heavy handed about this.

Yeah, but the only classes that can frequently remove boons are necros, S/D Thieves, and Mesmers. Other classes have to tunnel through without such an advantage. The only other way other classes could remove boons is through the Sigil of Nullification, but idk if people are willing to give up a sigil slot for something like that.