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nice video m8
You guys are just making me sad with good ideas that will never come
Eremite, I’m not sure I deserve all this praise just for the things I said in another thread, but thx anyway.
on my guardian/Dh i think i had the upper hand most times due to the class being better imo.
Hmm I wasn’t keeping score, but upper hand sounds a bit more one-sided than it actually was ;P
Anyway, like I said in game, if I changed some traits (and I will next time) you’d see a drastic win rate increase in my favour. So even if you won more fights it wasn’t because guardians are “the better class” in this matchup in general.Hes more experienced power necro than i am.
My interim conclusion from our last encounter was that you simply play your guardian a lot better than your necro. Lack of experience doesn’t seem to be the only issue here, it’s more like you needed a fresh perspective or mentality shift on how you could build or handle your necro against certain other classes.
Btw, I’m definitely more experienced than you on power builds as well, but my own build really is a hybrid, it wouldn’t work without having a considerable amount of condition damage. So it’s like a condition build at heart that does more direct than condition damage. A feature that falls rather flat against DHs though, I admit.
I meant upper hand in the sense of duelling with your main wvw build without specing just for one class i could maybe tweak my build aswell for some more condi cleansing or cc just for necro but the idea was for us to fight with what we would go in wvw roaming. and if your more experienced in power builds than me then your way more experienced in condi builds coz i really never liked them.
There is nothing wrong with Necro. I haven’t had any issues with anything. Perhaps those that complain just don’t know how to play Necromancer =/
Usually those that are outspoken are the ones that are upset anyway. I seldom see positive threads. This one was kind of odd, implying Necro had issues but maybe I’m too naive or I don’t run into difficult opponents but I never lose fights when on my necro unless I’m outnumbered or caught off guard.Im gonna add you for some duels later. Already got flow showing me a few tricks but wanna get more people for more show.
I don’t know who flow is but this may be fun
Hes more experienced power necro than i am. already duelled him in guild arena on my own necro and he did beat me more times. He has more playtime than me for sure from his lvl from what i could see tho on my guardian/Dh i think i had the upper hand most times due to the class being better imo.
well i used to play several types of classes,mainly ones alike guardian,warror,revenant or elementalist but with no holly trinity in this game i rather wanted to start nice and easy.
however wasnt thinking the class i picked wil be considered of the worst atm overall.
Depends on how you want to play, really. Every class can be classified as ‘worst’ if you only focus on their weaknesses and compare them to other classes. Necro may not have the DpS to burst down Group Event Bosses in seconds, but it does have long-term PvE sustain and can take some heavy hits if built right. If you want to be a pure Tank, Necro can do that with the Minion Mancer build, if you want to go Glass Cannon you can go full Power build. It’s fun being able to hold my own in a fight without having to worry about my teammates needing to rezz me, in fact I often times find myself healing more downed players than being healed myself. If you’re a PvPer, yeah Necro isn’t really a good 1v1 pick and you’ll be prime target the entire match. WvW, well that one’s up in the air. You could roam with a partner that’s got your back and have a blast, or you can huddle up with the zerg and play Condi from ranged. I’m a flat out PvE’er, so I only care about that Mode and we are still pretty strong/viable in that mode. Raids/Fractals, just get in a Guild that isn’t stingy about numbers or having things their way and you’ll be fine.
You only worry about pve thats clear. So the other game modes necro needs a babysitter and that is the problem. Eventually in spvp or wvw it comes a time necro needs to sustain itself or an escape button and does not have one. If no one is online to play with me or i just feel like roaming in wvw alone i need to be very lucky in finding just one enemy to fight and then have that enemy be close to average/bad depending on wich class it plays. So stop saying necro is good because till they fix this issue it isnt, its fun SOMETIMES but when the time comes to shine and be smart in your gameplay necro just doesnt have the defensive/evasive mechanics to do so and its not the players fault.
Game isn’t made for 1v1s, I don’t know where these silly people get this notion
Oh please… really, this again?
It’s silly to assume that only because there’s a balance priority on 5v5 conquest would mean that there isn’t any 1v1 balance at all.
And mind you, I said balance “priority”, you could very well argue that team fight pvp mechanics are a lot more unbalanced than 1v1s.Regardless, this thread is about dueling other classes. Obviously there’s a disagreement as to which class can or should beat the other. So you coming here and making some abstract comment on how you feel the game is supposed to be balanced adds absolutely nothing to the conversation.
But im up for anyone showing me how to do it as a necro against these classes and prove me wrong that necros are actually good and on pair with them. I can get good players to duel on each class.
I don’t know exactly when I’ll be online and have enough time, but generally speaking I’m always up for a little sparring session.
Sure just add me and ill do the same. We ll do a few matches
i had other necros try killing these same players today.
That tells me more about the skill level of those other necros than class balance.
any good player charge head on the first necromancer he saw knowing that he will win at 95%.
Even in top tier ESL matches the necromancer was Always the first target and the first kill. No matter how better the player is, the only thing that save a necromancer is a t babysitting engineer that ress you all the times you go down.You are confusing two things here.
On the one hand we have Mikhael who is frustrated because he didn’t win some 1v1s.
On the other hand, you’re talking about the initial engagement in a pvp match, which the necro usually starts without life force.
Of course, from the opposing team’s perspective that’s an exploitable weakness. However, since this is likely to be a 3v3 or 4v4, if the necro actually dies you might as well blame the team mates for not peeling/healing/rezzing you properly.
In other words: from a PvP team fight perspective, the real balance question here is whether or not protecting one necro in the initial phase of a fight is too much of a burden for the defending team. A matter of how many resources need to be expended on each side for a status quo. And in my opinion giving necros a starting amount of life force would really help here. But that topic is about as old as the game itself, and it’s pretty irrelevant to 1v1s where you can choose with how much lf you want to start with.But but… you can kill enemy necros!
True, if they are on equal lvl its a fun fight. Like watching 2 paralized people i wheelchairs going at it with sticks.
You could actually argue that necro vs necro is the most difficult matchup for us because of how unpredictable condi transfers are, which makes these fights more a matter of luck than going up against any other class.
I will never give another necro condies so he can sent back at me. I save my transfers for him when he gimme condis. Till then is just straight up damage. The 1vs1 were against the classes ive stated. Necros with higher lvl and probably more experience than me had pretry much same result. End of the day even if u play perfectly it is not balanced against them ever. And luck is a important part of being successfulagainst good players in other classes.
But but… you can kill enemy necros!
True, if they are on equal lvl its a fun fight. Like watching 2 paralized people i wheelchairs going at it with sticks.