Guild Wars 2

@ Kami…for the Lion thing. It doesn’t matter who started it. Some of your members couldn’t show the maturity to keep their comments and opinions ingame or on server forums or on server ts where any problems should have been sorted. Instead some of your members decided to create a kittenfight on the matchup thread of that week, which looked very embarrassing for the server.

If you allow your members free reign on what they say and about who, then don’t be surprised that your guild develops a reputation based on the actions and words of those few members.
Just read back over this thread and have a look at what poster and from what guild started trolling. Hint: He doesn’t play in this matchup. (Xerion’s post was hardly a troll post, he stated that FSV’s transfer didn’t affect the server. He responded to a question asked. You might not have liked what he said but it was hardly trolling) Plus I see some of mine and Kayleygh’s posts have been removed

There are more guilds than Kale and Punk doing what they can for the server. AoA, DW and GoT are going strong. But the fact you neglected to mention them says it all. We certainly won’t die.

@ Kayleygh…aww run out of troll material? Your scraping the barrel now son!

@Terrorsquad….maybe you should take a look closer to home for drama….Kayleygh just can’t resist it seems and created any “drama” you see. No need for him to get involved in our match thread with trolling but he did.

I don’t hate FSV..I simply dislike a small number of your members who in my opinion had a huge contribution to the division on our server and another solid guild in lion leaving, aswell as kitten ing off a lot of our pugs. Just let us get on with trying to improve FSP, and please reign in your members that decide to troll here, and then I will wish you all the best.

I played about 45 mins of reset with AoA and had to log off….lag was insane first on AG border then FSP border. couldn’t get a single skill off, not even 1…

hihey.1075:

Kaleygh.1524:

hihey.1075:

5 more kills given to FSP Legendary Defenders @ FSP Spawn in EB

there`s plenty of other places to fight in EB.
…you do know that right ?

Yeah, but in order to fight you need an opponent. And it looks like that from 3 to 5 AM GMT+1, you FSP can fight only when you are outnumbering us 7 to 2 and near the protection of your Defenders.
Still, it is fun. But somehow I get killed in the process of finishing someone or when I try to lure someone away from the spawn making them think I am about to die

Post of the thread. I once spawn camped 1v20 and managed to kill a few Defenders aswell. But I think you might have topped it. I mean you guys managed to get an enemy server ticking at 5-10 points for a couple of hours while being outnumbered.

Nemesys.7251:

cry for blob and after blob too is not the solution,is that the way all the fsp guild want play today?

Are you seriously whining about FSP blobbing? On a matchup in which both Gandara and FSP are getting kitten d. I spent most if the afternoon at EB spawn being camped by Elona with every objective sieged to the hilt while being outmanned. Strangely I would take AM over Elona any day. Atleast they didn’t spawn camp with shifloads of siege.

@Karahol I bet your kitten grew a few inches writing that post……such a hero

Just let it go…………………………………..Far Dramapeaks indeed

Quite a number of posters on this topic need to grow up, none of you are covering yourselves in glory here. Though I have lots of respect for what FSV and Punk do for the server, some posters from these guilds are coming across as kittenheads on this topic, Kaleygh in particular whose comments in relation to AoA and Lion are completely uncalled for. I don’t condone what some members of Lion did, but the reaction to it has been way OTT and was better left to ingame whispers etc or the server forums. If you don’t want to get along ignore each other, but it’s pathetic that some posters feel the need to tear into a guild like this.

I don’t participate in GvG but I personally don’t mind it. I would call for players on all sides to respect it, but it can be very hard to police. I used to play Lotro on Snowbourn server in which we organised an unofficial 1v1 area away from the main action and objectives. There were always 1 or 2 that would try interfering, until one side formed a gank tribe solely for the purpose of killing 1v1 players there. Hope it doesn’t happen here.

I’m having fun

Rating/ranking matters very little. It simply determines what bracket of servers you may possibly face in the next matchup. Before the changes to the match making system it did serve a purpose of highlighting the servers with the best coverage/organisation/numbers. It doesn’t really serve that purpose anymore.

Servers, like our own, have shifted slightly to trying to get in matchups where we can experience good fights. That is why we enjoy fighting Aurora, Gandara and Miller’s for example, even though more often than not we don’t win the points race. I still don’t really understand how ranking/rating is still the main focus of wvw for some servers.

aryastark.4687:

Senninha.4105:

WOW we should give UW some cookies, lol why do you UW players even place screenshots like this? Again proof UW are the masters of PvD while the other servers are sleeping!! UW show us some screenshots during daytime and primetime with impressive scores, OOH wait UW can’t, because during these times you guys hide behind your walls and sieges!!!

Oh how I love whiny posts like this, just how I remember FS to be, from 4 months ago. So you are saying we should lay out our tactics, and play at the time its most convenient for you? rly? Its not UWs fault FS players go to bed after the evening cartoons, and since you are ranked 4 ranks higher then us, yes its an achievement for our server to have such a point tick at any time of the day, also, yesterday primetime we had a higher point tick then you

Enjoy your points tick, you will be well rewarded come the end of the week
We will try and enjoy having some good fights, despite doing your best not to give us any

DarkRealityNL.1594:

Oh, and btw: check last weeks match-up thread. FSP did the same there, and that was in a match-up we absolutely dominated (score-wise). Where were you people who are complaining now, when it happened then?

I didn’t play in last week’s matchup so I didn’t post. I did however read the match thread and although 1 or 2 idiots posted screenshots of dominant point ticks, I seem to recall the thread being dominated by FSP posters apologising for the matchup………

Maybe brag was too strong a word but I don’t really know what other reaction you were expecting to get. FSP has changed in the past few months to a server that in general doesn’t care so much about the points and winning matchups anymore. Our fights with AG, Gandara and Miller’s has changed how many of our guilds now play and are setup. Don’t get me wrong there is still those who fight like before and we still have our pugs and pug commanders (mainly EB). But you won’t get many respectful replies to posts including screenshots of score ticks during the night.

KarlusDavius.1024:

I don’t get this. Wvw is a 24 hour thing. Believe it or not there are still a fair amount of players on home borderlands and there 10 MILLION ac’s that we need to deal with. Night capping, I can assure you, is not easy task. Easier yes, but still difficult.

Not sure where this stomped during prime time comes from. Shame you have to be kids about it all rather than good sports fans. Don’t play the game if you don’t like the rules. We have good coverage. Deal with it.

You are missing the point. There is no complaint about your coverage or “nightcapping” by itself. The complaint is about why feel the need to post a screenshot about it so you can brag like its some major accomplishment. So please read the posts before lecturing us on how the game should be played.

It’s only Miyu. Check his post history. He has serious love for FSP and needs to express it whenever he meets us.

So you are whining in advance, based on what you predict FSP will do. A prediction based on previous matchups the last of which was months ago, irrelevant of what is happening in this matchup and your server mates are posting. You should probably take a week off alright, and maybe a week off this thread

I somehow doubt UW likes open fights. Their main style is to get a tower, siege it up, bunker there and treb whatever is in the range even tho they have more people and can afford to come on the forums to whine every time they are not ticking the highest. No other server I fought bunkers and whines as often as UW. I personally dislike to fight this server. Still hope to get some nice fights at least with AS, they seems to be better and better with every new match.

You guys must play pve 100% of the time then…..wtb AM pvpers

Hmm PVE is strong in AM…say hello to Lemmings The Abaddons Mouth Adventure game where the object of the game is to knock down as many gates and kill as many keep lord’s in the fastest time possible (PVP not included)

This game has gone to the dogs…..MS just took every keep in our border and we were unable to place any siege in defence while they could place rams….gj Anet

If we are not careful we will be dropping another tier after this week :/
Our numbers continue to get smaller week on week….not sure if its transfers, people quitting game or some other reason…currently have outnumber buff on 2 borders including our own and 1 commander across 4 zones….I guess FSP has given up on it

Slomo.1029:

Take back AM and give us our Gandara back.

No thanks. Enjoy

AM have been trolling most of the day. They came to our border, outnumbering us about 5 to 1, and laid siege to sunny, our last tower, with 4 trebs from faith. Didn’t even let us try and make a fight of it. Nothing but emote spamming and bugging into sunny with pets and players. I hope they tier up this week as despite outnumbering us they still don’t bring good fights. Not going to get into the problems I have with our own server (hint – 15min queue on EB while AM take over our entire border with about 12 defenders). Though I’m sure people will say oh its last day we can’t win anyway…..

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@Twinny…Yeah pretty much spot on. AM have greatly improved their numbers and coverage (think they got 2 or 3 sizeable guilds transfer to them in the past week) and their organisation has definitely improved. It remains to be seen whether they can continue that as it appears German servers in general are doing well this week (Miller’s are dominating T6 and even Dzagonur are doing probably better than expected against ROS)

As for FSP we have less numbers this week. We appear to have lost some commanders and regular and experienced pug players. I hope it is only a temporary thing as people try the new pve content or simply take a break.
Organisation has definitely gone downhill in general since we were in T4 and winning that matchup, only for the WXP update to come in and we have steadily gotten worse at some basic fundamentals of the game. We have simply far too many players now just sticking with the WXP train and not bothering with any other part of the game.

Some points:
- Our scouting is almost non-existant now – there are a small few who do it but it’s always the same people and if they are not on the map then forget it.

- Strike teams – we generally lack them. AM and even FR constantly run small 4-5 man strike teams in enemy borders and EB for enemy supply camps.
We only seem to take a supply camp if its on the way to a tower/keep. 4 supply camps on an enemy border is a 40 point swing in our favour over that server.

- Defence – it’s something that has slowly improved as the week has progressed but we are still far behind AM in this aspect. Again it seems to be based on what commander/experienced players are on the map whether we bother with defensive siege and it gets refreshed.

Unfortunately in my opinion the WXP update has hurt our server more than most, as we always had a reliance on commanders leading pug zergs more than guild groups. 95% of our pug players now just won’t leave the zerg to do anything else like building, upgrading, escorting dollies etc. We are not making the best use of our numbers and it is hurting us. Its not uncommon to see us have 5/6 players in FSP border, 1 or 2 afkr’s in enemy borders, and about 60 in EB all glued together in one massive blob.

Bottom line is that many of the regular wvwr’s on FSP are tired of this matchup. It has run its course. No offense to AM or FR, maybe some of you feel the same.

We definitely have less numbers the last 2 weeks, most noticeable in the morning and afternoons, and it seems many commanders are taking a break (only temporary I hope). Any zergs we manage to form contain many inexperienced players and it shows.

GL to both servers in their next matchups, just hope we are not in it.

No offence to the other servers in this matchup, but i’m getting fairly bored fighting FR and AM. Whether we move up or down, I really wouldn’t mind fighting someone else for a change.

Vortigern.1987:

Minfast.5489:

Whatever happened a couple of hours later is irrelevant. No need to take offence just because I pointed out I would have done things differently if I was leading the FR force in EB at the time I refer to.

Actually, if you use a term like “in the long run”, then what happens later is the only thing that is truly relevant. FR is still leading, so it seems their “inferior” tactic worked well for them.

Only if the same tactic is maintained to get FR the lead, which it wasn’t making your point irrelevant. As I said in my earlier post, FR gained nothing with this tactic. The only server to benefit was AM as they were under pressure to hold SM but FR bailed them out every time. AM were leading the matchup at this point. As I said FR didn’t even succeed once in taking a tower. I mentioned nothing about “inferior”. But it certainly didn’t gain them anything, it just stopped FSP and their own server from getting a foothold. Tactics and numbers from all 3 servers changed later, so ofc the scoring would change.

Not sure why I keep replying to you to explain this tbh.

Vortigern.1987:

Minfast.5489:

…while I can understand the tactic purely for short term points gain, in the long run its questionable.

and a couple of hours later FR is leading with FSP on the second place. indeed, the tactic is very questionable. they may even win by accident if they continue to make those mistakes…

Whatever happened a couple of hours later is irrelevant. No need to take offence just because I pointed out I would have done things differently if I was leading the FR force in EB at the time I refer to.

If you were playing at that time, AM had both FSP and FR outnumbered in EB most of the morning, taking towers from both servers with ease. Then when both FSP and FR get some numbers in (and AM were still leading the matchup), it made more sense to me to put pressure on AM. But whenever FSP tried to do so, FR repeatedly tried pvdooring our towers, and were unsuccessful every time when we were forced to defend and leave SM.

Result – FR gained no points, FSP gained no points, AM had SM defended for them

Yeah it was pretty frustrating….each time we launched a good attack on SM FR constantly focussed our towers behind our backs, it’s like they were waiting for us to move into SM…they basically defended SM for AM. AM have had SM all day because of it…while I can understand the tactic purely for short term points gain, in the long run its questionable.

On a side note we (FSP) seem noticeably undermanned this week. We had outnumber buff in EB for good part of the morning which I have not seen before. I’m talking 10am – 12pm GMT +1

Grekk.9450:

I told you over 12 hours ago – will no-one think of the bunnies. FSP you showed no bunny love and now youve paid.

PS welcome to 3rd place despite your pitiful non-bunny zergs

PPS if youd been nicer to my earlier posts and respected bunny-love this wouldnt have happened

You only came second….a lot to brag about there chief

We know very well what Piken are like, we met them before. Some of the guilds that left FSP are now playing there. When I remember some of the guilds that left us: Nugos, Green Fire, Za Drots, Velocity, Team Sweden, Balkan Legion to name just a few
We won’t meet Piken anytime soon unless they drop a tier or two.
And here is a screenie just for you Kinky

[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/nu1oGzJ.jpg[/IMG]

We have the outnumber buff and you are running around with a zerg of 60+. So please stop with the FSP is responsible for all blobbing spiel

@KinkyWarrior…you’re server isn’t above blobbing either

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Oh and a full zerg from AG just to kill me

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@Slomo

I’m not sure but I think I remember it being some song to raise money for charity so some “celebs” took part in it

Just for you Corran.

Corran.4957:

lol, you going to report people for putting down 2 superior rams on each door?

Oh dear, need to play like you and just have 100 people auto attack it?

You are a credit to your server. He isn’t talking about the rams. You used the Mesmer rez tactic once already and were trying to use it again. It’s an exploit plain and simple. As I said it seems you guys are willing to do anything to stay in the tier. Gl with that and with BB next week. We can go back to having a clean matchup with servers that actually have some respect and fun.

Yup have lost all respect for them, not that they have any for us judging by the quality of their posting. It seems they want to stay in T4 at all costs. It’s pretty sad to see them resort to this.

A couple of points

1) Our server’s wvw population has skyrocketed since the patch, and I imagine it has happened on most other servers. I would expect it to drop soon and settle at what we once had.

2) Far Shiverpeaks lost most of its wvw guilds in the first few months after release. We were left to pick up the pieces through some dedicated small guild teams and commanders. This is why we have a reliance on following our commanders as a pug zerg rather than move around in guild groups. AoA is about the only guild now with the capacity to move around as one most of the time. Some of the other guilds do it for events.

3) I don’t understand all the kitten waving from some AG and Gandara posters whenever they talk about meeting a FSP zerg. An organised guild group with voice comms and traited for group play should always beat a pug zerg containing upscaled fighters, fighters traited for solo damage and a zerg lacking voice comms. Kudos for being organised, traited and geared right.

4) I actually can’t wait for this matchup to end and if we drop out of this tier I won’t be disappointed. We can’t win no matter what it seems. We get blamed for the blobbing and forcing the other 2 to do it, if we achieve anything its because we have superior numbers, and if those superior numbers lose we are noobs. BB are decimating T5 and if they replace us I can’t wait to read that match thread and whining about blobs.

Wicked.5479:

Corran.4957:

If you are FSP then I can do nothing but laugh. Dont think you really got any guilds that move on their own below 40 people.

you might come across some of us if you stop hiding in your own blob.

see i can do this too

Yeah but it seems they only blob cos we “force” them to

Keep it clean

iorlas.6721:

He then quickly rammed the inner gate with no resistance……PvD imo.

Leave it Uttar…no point trying to explain it to him when he is quite obviously bitter

Well your server sure found it fun that night…have a look at the screenshot posted by someone from UW showing you guys ticking at 550 points and us having 2 whole towers and a supply camp. I guess when the roles are reversed a little you don’t like it. Your border has been living a charmed life since the matchup began. It was about time someone turned it to wood.

iorlas.6721:

3am-7am…4hrs of PvD sure sounds fun.

You seem to have an incredibly short memory….remember reset night?

Cruzyo.7304:

Nozdormu.4352:

To anyone complaining about FSP morning zerg, I would like to remind you of our own efforts at reset around 5am.

the thing is some of the FS posting on this forum have double standards.

they complain about cheaters on one side and loudly blame the entire server for this, but if others do that with individuals of their server suddenly “there is no need to bring that up in this forum”.

secondly, they always complain about the “evil pvd nightcappers” yet pvding in the morning is totally fine.

Also that bull about “FR and UW alliance”, looking at the score, you might guess the opposite? If some individuals of FSP would be less hypocrit, this thread would be much more enjoyable aswell for someone that follows the matchup from time to time at his workplace :P

cheaters should be reported and moved on, there is no reason to blame an entire server for that, about the second i personally dont give a kitten wether a server is nightcapping or is having morning zergs, whatever pleases them to win. I enjoy the battles in the evening where i can actually do something aswell.

You sure you are not talking about yourself here. I stand to be corrected but I only remember one poster from FSP mention PvD nightcapping. Yet in response a number of you guys haven’t shut up about our morning crew all morning. What you can post but can’t play? As for the alleged cheating, I can remember one complaint from us earlier in the thread. In response you guys have complained about a thief being a thief (but alleging he must have been hacking) and a flurry of posts last night about our entire server cheating. Double standards? I see it from posters on both servers, you included.

Miyu.8137:

It’s sad when you are checking the WvW score and see how is the hard work you made yesterday gone and there is nothing you can do, cause unlike others “cough” you have to be at work.

It’s amazing you can post on internet forums while at work and “cough” not need to sleep in between shifts :o

I have tried to refrain from posting on this thread but it seems the whiners are starting to take over. You guys (UW) only just lost a lead in an extremely tight 3 way matchup. If you can’t enjoy what is the closest matchup in the ladder, then you should probably quit. Try posting something constructive. Although in Cruzyo’s case that might be difficult as it seems he can’t post any other way.

As for the matchup, thoroughly enjoying it and it has been our toughest since GH came to this tier their 1st week.
UW- definitely more impressive numbers, coverage and organisation since we last met. You defend what you have very well. Nice to see a server improve through their own hard work.
FR- very impressive. If your coverage was a little better you guys would be winning this matchup. Excellent organisation, especially in attack. Though you guys are vulnerable in open field. I don’t think I’ve seen so many thieves on one server. Enjoyed the battles with MORT and others on FSP border all week. You guys showed great co-ordination on FSP border last night. 3 separate FR zergs moving around our border attacking different objectives simultaneously had us scrambling for our lives.

Please enjoy the rest of the matchup, it should be good.

Toxikthrash.2704:

Thanks AoA and co for all the loot bags you gave us in DL Bay. honestly it was alike a FSP Extermination.

Yawn……seriously can’t posters from your server post anything but the same kitten over and over. Every day from GH…thanks for the loot bags FSP….you guys need to get over it….I don’t see many posters from FSP bragging about how many loot bags they get….despite the fact I constantly have to port to home base to empty my bags.

Yorric Hunt.8214:

Minfast.5489:

Yorric Hunt.8214:

Cant believe FsP wouldn’t let [PRXM] (and friends) do our work experience at Foghaven mill We were there for a hour but all i learnt was how not to portal bomb (taught kindly by FsP) and how to get wiped repeatedly by inferior numbers (Also kindly taught by FsP) We will have to try again later in the week

Obsess much?

Haha were you one of the teachers?

Not at all. I’m playing other games atm, have barely logged in past few weeks. I just picked up on a trend in your posting style is all. You seem obsessed with posting about every skirmish you win against FSP, while throwing in some attempted humorous (or not) trolling of FSP.

Yorric Hunt.8214:

Cant believe FsP wouldn’t let [PRXM] (and friends) do our work experience at Foghaven mill We were there for a hour but all i learnt was how not to portal bomb (taught kindly by FsP) and how to get wiped repeatedly by inferior numbers (Also kindly taught by FsP) We will have to try again later in the week

Obsess much?

Roo Stercogburn.9671:

Not enough FSP on our BL when I get to play. I don’t like having to travel to collect my lootbags and FSP deliver better than Domino’s Pizza.

We just cleaned up at FSP Bay on lootbags from a massive Xaoc zerg…..we repelled them about 5 or 6 times from the Lord’s room with no more than 12 to 15 defenders. They have finally taken it after about 2 hours sieging it. We really kicked GH kitten there. And just to throw one out there for the conspiracy theorists….AM had about a group of 6 just inside BAY NE gate ganking our reinforcements as they trickled in, Xaoc couldn’t even take it without other interference

This is getting ridiculous. I see you chose not to comment on the screenshot I posted Genotix. Is it because it proves your accusation that we were leaving AM untouched as a lie?

In response to Steelo, i’ll be perfectly honest with you in that I have the exact same impression of your server and would have plenty of examples to back it up. I could post how I never see red in AM border. I could post how 2 days ago you poured huge numbers into FSP border, taking Bay and Hills, while AM also had their zerg there. Have a look at the first screenshot on this matchup and all of the red on our border, while AM border is mainly intact. You see where this is going? Any poster from any of the servers could point out and give examples of how they feel they are being focussed by the other two. Every server has their moments on top, and there are still good fights to be had so why not focus on enjoying them?