Guild Wars 2

That system will run Gw2 just about as good as anything on the market.

Dont expect a solid 60FPS everywhere on high/ultra,though. There’s still going to be instances that bring the game down to the 30s.

Behellagh.1468:

However if you GPU is showing 100%, that may be an indication that it’s the issue. And if at some point the engine is waiting for the frame to finish on the GPU before issuing the commands for rending the next frame, that would impact how much CPU you are using. Not saying you need a 980Ti but a pegged GPU is an indication that it’s a bottle neck.

Can confirm.
4690k @ 4.2ghz and an R7 260×. GPU stays pegged 90-100% at 40-55fps in HoT areas on mostly high settings. While the CPU ranges from 60-80% for the 4core average.

Turamarth.3248:

I got an infraction for the tool I linked which takes screenshots of the combat log and analyses them. That is apparently disallowed.

Ah yes,I commented on that thread.

Screenshots weren’t the problem in that program and we all know it.

Turamarth.3248:

Since taking screenshots is apparently disallowed by the Guild Wars 2 User Agreement there is no allowed tool.

Sarcasm?

There is an in-game screenshot option,ya know?

Today i got a Sinister jewelry recipe book. As i always do with those, I dug around the TP to find the most expensive recipe I could sell: the Charged Ambrite Orichalcum Earring.

As you can see from the screenshots here

The top picture illustrates the Recipes lowest seller,the second picture shows the lowest seller and highest buyer. 4.5g and 27s, respectively.

The third picture is what I see when I actually try to sell the recipe.

Guild members said they saw prices that matched the first two screenshots when searching for the recipe themselves.

Not a single issue here. 64bit since day 1 and specs below.

But what about your software? Win10 Autoupdated recently?(It likes to,which I hate)

New GPU drivers?

livestrongbp.9654:

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And? No one here is ignorant to your specifications. We’re all well aware of the limitations of the game,and have tried voicing them to you.

• Supersample off
• Shadows on high
• Character limits/quality on Med/high(unless WvW then High/Med)
• Reflections on Terrain and Sky(or off,reflections are terribly costly for the visual impact due to anets water implementation).

Have you messed with your Windows Power Options? You might have set a powersaving profile that wont let your CPU hit full clock speeds.

See here

And many other threads on this topic.

This skill will also target ambient creatures,if they’re nearby, while there are perfectly acceptable enemy targets around.

Not sure if a bug,but surely not optimal behavior.

That “eelektrichestvo”(electricity) sound is just part of the effect, a simulated Static Noise.

Nothing out of the ordinary.

No changes to the UI scaling system.

It’s not real high on their priority list,seeing a majority of people can barely keep a respectable FPS @ 1080p with decent settings.

Well..I’m going to assume the majority of us aren’t and cant read slovak. It might be good to put a little effort into your posts if you want help.

Aside from that. It’s an Ideapad. Even if it says “gaming” in the label, it’s not a great gaming machine. The processor(i7 4700MQ) isnt terrible but it is a mobile chip,which are low powered compared to desktop counterparts. The singlecore performance of your CPU is the largest factor in your overall performance with GW2 and a higher core clock would do much more than the extra threads that hyperthreading provides on an i7.

The GPU is mid-tier,at best. But it’s also a mobile chip which is,again, underpowered compared to Desktop GPUs. The fact that it has SLI doesnt help much at all in Gw2. It might actually hurt performance since SLI,from what ive seen, doesn’t play nice with Gw2.

As said by the good folks here.

Pre-build PCs are stupidly priced because you’re paying a huge premium for someone put 10 components into a case.

It’s essentially as easy as building a Lego car,maybe more so.

TheShowOff.1746:

i was so stupid i didnt check it first.

Hate to sound rude but..Don’t waste customer supports time with this. It was your fault.

It clearly gives the needed information about the gloves. Customer Support isnt there to fix everyones booboo’s or that is ALL they would do ALL day.

They have more important things like resolving actual account issues.

Personally id go for an i5 4460 or better. You can get slightly better performance,compared to that FX, with cheaper Intel chips..but I dont think it would be worth a motherboard upgrade and all that.

While Cerby is right,there has been numerous performance related issues since the last patch(and a few patches before that,even), I wouldn’t expect much more from that CPU.

Single threaded performance being the main bottleneck in this game,your FPS ceiling is going to be directly tied to that. The best you can do is Overclock it to 4-4.4ghz(with good cooling) and lower troublesome settings like;

• Character Limits,and to a lesser extent,quality.- This really is the main factor on FPS as it adds soooo many more meshes and draw calls.

• Reflections – They’re just not very visually impactful compared to the FPS hit received because of how Gw2 does water. Under 98% of maps there’s a massive body of water(evident from videos of people “breaking out” of the map or falling through it). To make a body of water in a map,they dip the terrain level into the water level. The problem is that even if you cant see any water on that map..it’s there,and its reflecting.

• Shadows -Ultra shadows cause pretty high spikes in my Frame Time Latency when moving the camera quickly. I leave mine on high but your mileage my vary.

And dont forget to cut the number of running applications down as much as is convenient to help open up cycles.

zondabmw.5490:

2. If your card is no longer under warrenty take the heatsink off the card and apply a more premium thermal paste, I prefer Liquid metal thermal paste it basically fills in the gaps and is metal to metal performance.
http://www.coollaboratory.com/en/products/liquid-ultra/

This is really bad advice to give to anyone who isn’t fairly familiar with hardware. Liquid Metal TIMs, as stated in the name, are metal and thus conductive.

You can short your boards pretty easily with it.

Loli Ruri.8307:

You can setup a fan curve in MSI Afterburner, and then enable it to use that.

All of Loli’s questions need to be answered if you want knowledgeable techsupport,but the fan curve bit is important.

Most stock GPU fan curves dont pick up RPM nearly soon enough,imo.

My 260x would commonly hit ~80c before the fan picked up to around 75% and stopped it from getting hotter. After making the fan curve much more aggressive I don’t see temps go over 72c at the same RPM.

Obviously don’t go too aggressive with it. Your GPU is going to create a certain amount of heat while playing and setting your fans to blow 90% @ 60C will just wear them out faster.

I detest laptops/notebooks so im not sure how the mobile chip handles Thermal Throttling to curb temperature increase,but 64-66c should be WELL below any limits. 75-80c is where most throttling occurs.

I can’t see the GPU temp,its just out of frame. But I feel its safe to assume that it’s not far from the CPU temps due to the compact design of notebooks. It shouldn’t be a problem either, most GPUs can handle significantly higher temperatures than most CPUs.

That leads me to believe its a RAM issue..I’d sure like another opinion,though.

Did some digging,since you provided zero information in both of your threads today, and came across your PC Build

That whole thread is very strange and,as one poster said,it seems “Trolly”. But I also suspect there’s a language barrier getting in the way.

robert.3475:

- Intel Core i7 4960X CPU
- 32 GB 1866MHz Memory
- 4x SLI NVIDIA GTX 780 Ti 3GB
- Copper Pipe Liquid Cooling
- 240GB Corsair Neutron GTX SSD
- 2 TB 7200RPM Storage HDD
- ASUS rampage 4 extreme Chipset Motherboard
- 1200W Corsair AX1200i PSU
- Blu-Ray Player/DVD Writer
- Microsoft Windows 8.1 Pro

..seriously?

Anyway- There’s been many,many reports of crashes today. Just be patient and it will be fixed.

Edit: This is probably going to be a problem,at least for the foreseeable future. 32bit is running out of room as the game ages and updates.

Then there’s this post which is you begging for a free $50 game…when you easily have a PC that costs $5,000.

Something really seems off.

Double Edit: Then in this post , which was made a year before your “Gw2 is great” thread, you seem to have a bit more knowledge of computers. It was still technically wrong,but at least you knew the terms..

Very off,indeed.

After a cursory glance at your screenshots, I see a couple of possibilities.

First, your amount of RAM. 4GB in a Win7 machine is barely enough, couple that with 86 background processes running(i only have 51 with Firefox, a few monitoring tools and Gw2 running) and id bet you’re hitting limits and the FPS tanks due to Page File.

If it’s anything else, I’d put my money on heat. Seeing as its a notebook.

Download Speccy and let it run in the background while you game. Once the FPS drop,tab over to speccy and look at the CPU graph to determine the temperature. Post a screenshot of it,if you would,as well.

Multiboxing is fine as long as you stick to a few rules

• You may use more than one account at the same time.
• You may use more than one computer at the same time.
• You must be actively playing on each account.
  
  And as stated above, you may not program your keyboard to perform functions on more than one account at a time.
  a. For example, if you press W on your keyboard to move forward, a single character on a single account should move forward. The keystroke or mouse click should not perform functions on more than one account.

Kadsik.9281:

So this is the card I bought recently, I expected to have good FPS in-game but I’m still only pulling around 30-40 fps in most places in the game, messed around with the graphics and seemed to get a boost of 5-6 fps, I really expected this card to pull 55-60 FPS with this game, I mean its not that high quality of a game.

It’s not your GPU holding you back. It’s the CPU. It’s always the CPU with Gw2. Unless,of course, your GPU is severely outdated/weak/not configured properly.

The sad news is: Your CPU,the i7 2600k, is still among the best in terms of Single Threaded Performance(which is the main limiting factor of Gw2).

The only way to make it perform better is by Overclocking your CPU,which is rather straightforward and safe if you have a decent cooling solution, turning down the “troublesome” ingame graphics settings and streamlining your PC.

First the graphics settings.

• Character Model Limits/Quality- This is the biggest resource hog on your Main Thread for Gw2. More players=more meshes/draw calls. I keep mine on Medium Limit with High Character Model Quality.

• Reflections – Reflections are a big hit to average FPS because under every map,that i’m aware of, there’s a giant body of water that is fully reflecting the surroundings. Even if you cant see any water on that map. Lakes and such,in maps that have them, are made by dipping the terrain level into the water level.

• Shadows – Shadows on Ultra tend to increase Frame Time Latency by a large amount,for the rather small effect, in my opinion. I keep mine on high but your mileage my vary

As for streamlining- It’s pretty simple. Go through and disable/close your applications running before you game. Can’t count the times someone has complained of slow loading and poor FPS only to see a screenshot of their Task Manager with +150 programs running.

Overclocking we’ll get to later if we can’t get some decent performance gains from Graphics settings and Background application tweaking.

Vienna.1579:

@MrFayth.3546
You speak from your own perspective. Your claims are mostly a ‘’mythology ’’, since all what you have write is depending on your wallet in the first place.

No, I speak knowledge gained from years of Techsupport in Gw2 and decades of techsupport outside of Gw. Not to mention I’m an avid overclocker and benchmark enthusiast.

Vienna.1579:

Not all people have rich parents or have at their disposal 1000 Euro to spend on a computer which would run new games for a longer time.

That’s rather insulting and narrow minded. You dont have to spend thousands on a PC to play games at or near max settings and also have to upgrade it every year.

Vienna.1579:

At the same time is the claim from Feirlista Xv.1425 false that people with AMD processors have problems with GW2. Some people have problems – difference.

People do have “problems” with AMD CPUs and Gw2.

It’s called weak Single Core/Threaded performance(compared to intel) and that is the main factor in the general performance of Gw2

Vienna.1579:

The same as some people with Pentium i series have problems in GW2, there gives many topics where Intel users complain about low frame rate,..I use an Amd Fx processor, no problems with GW2, the same as you can check 100’s of videos on YouTube from people who use AMD processors and have no problems at all in GW2.

Pentium I series? Do you mean the Pentium II,which launched in 1997 or the “Core i” series(i3,i5,i7)? If it’s the former..yea they would have problems. If it’s the latter,it’s very likely you have seen topics of weak performance with them but that’s not a direct hardware issue like it is with AMD CPUs.

I suggest you spend a bit more time looking around these forums before you go citing youtubers performance as a metric for what processors are good with GW2 and what aren’t.

Vienna.1579:

I would say that your processor is still strong enough to run GW2

What? No.

Vienna.1579:

Although the game have a 256 ram graphic card as a minimum requirement, frankly this is simply misleading requirement. You need a better graphic card to run GW2.

True

Vienna.1579:

I do not recommend you to buy any new parts for your existing computer but rather save the money for a inexpensive new computer.

Also sound advice.

Vienna.1579:

At the same time keep in mind the possibility of a console, which is significantly cheaper variant for playing new games for a longer time as the constant upgrading of Pc’s to play video games. In essence you do not need a new computer, as long you don’t want to play new pc games on it, probably you can still run Photoshop,…well..

So much wrong with this that I don’t know where to begin…

First..The user is in the Gw2 techsupport section,im pretty sure that puts consoles out of the picture.

You do not have to “constantly upgrade” your PC to play games,if you make informed purchases to begin with.

Did the performance change happen after a GPU driver update,perhaps?

Many of these “Game ready” (e.g. release day Fallout 4 GeForce 358.91) nvidia drivers kill performance on most everything but the game they were made for.

Also seems that every other GPU driver in Win10 with an Nvidia GPU has performance problems in Gw2.

Loli Ruri.8307:

Ansau.7326:

There’s no pc in this earth that has the enough raw performance to play this game in such a heavy situation at ultra at such high framerate

Somebody might perceive that as a challenge request.

In 5 or 10 years, that challenge might be beat.

;)

Strange. Pre-HoT i had zero fractal skins unlocked. After the Fractal Weapon achieve addition,it said i had the Scepter unlocked in the Achieve panel but the skin wasn’t available in the wardrobe.

Weeks later the scepter unlock is still there.

First things first. We need some detailed system specifications. What CPU,Graphics Card, Operating System and how much RAM installed?

Underclocking a card,it wont fry it. Overclocking it to extreme levels can and will.

As for CCC over/underclocking. I’ve never once used it for that reason. Ive always relied on MSI Afterburner due to its superior monitoring capabilities. Along with all the goodies Rivatuner Statistics Server has.

Can you provide a screenshot of your overclocking/performance tab?

The loss of monitor signal i’ve never heard of being a Gw2 related problem which leads me to think it might be power management options.
Have you gone through your Windows Power Settings and disabled Power Saving Options? Most,like PCI Express Link State Power Management, arent needed being on a desktop.

It should scale down to x16 1.1 when on desktop/idle. That’s normal.

If you’ve tried turning down the troublesome settings(Reflections,Supersample,shadows) and the problem still persist, I’d next flip over to the “sensor” tab on GPU-Z and keep an eye on your GPU temperature. If it’s reaching 80C it’s likely thermal throttling.

Beldin.5498:

Stop talking about things you don’t know.

There’s been a lot of this,lately.

Do we have no moderator for this forum?

Not sure the last time i’ve seen anything.

autopsie.6159:

Like i said above.. the game is still 32 bit, but as a cheap work around to the problem they cant seem to fix, they added a 64 bit launcher, that allocates slightly more memory in the initialization phase… that is ALL they did.

No..That’s not true at all

See the lack of *32 ? That denotes it’s running in 64bit.

Not sure if it’s settings or not..What’s your ingame settings?

Ran cliffside probably 10 times since updating to 64bit and not one problem.

All settings on high besides Terraine and Sky Reflections,Native Sampling, and Best Texture Filtering off.

Figlilly.3907:

ANet does not involve themselves in any sort of guild politics or restoration.

This is true and has been said a few times over the years.

I’m not even sure they will restore a guild if the leader/officer is hacked and everything cleaned out.

Thorniss.2301:

What do you mean with “you will lose more RAM depending on the size of the RAM on your new graphics card.”?

Under 32bit windows the amount of Video Ram(vRAM) on your graphics card must be mapped to your system RAM. So if you have 4GB of RAM and a 1GB vRAM graphics card,you’re down to only 3GB of usable system RAM. Ontop of that, DX9.0c and earlier games the vRAM must also be duplicated onto System RAM.

You’re in for a world of hurt if you upgrade to a +1GB GPU with 32bit Windows.

Reported this bug ingame but I wanted to post here to get a larger sample size than the 2 people who replied ingame.

While your sPVP Game Browser is active,opening and closing the guild panel will result in a 1-2 second freeze of the entire client. Opening the sPVP Browser with the Guild Panel already up does not trigger this and having the PVP Panel on anything but Game Browser while opening guild will not trigger it.

It was 100% reproducible for me, and the other two who were kind enough to try and reply.

It’s not a huge gamebreaker but it is rather panic inducing to see everything lock up.

To reproduce: Anywhere ingame, Open your sPVP interface and select “Game Browser”(3rd tab down) then open your Guild Panel through any means.

Specs.

• i5 4690k @ 4.1ghz
• AMD R7 260x 2gb with Catalyst 15.7
• 8GB G.skill Ripjaw RAM
• 120GB SSD with Gw2 and Win7 Ultimate.

StoryMode.8256:

I don’t use supersampling at 4k, but yes, the rest I have up high/ultra…. and why shouldn’t I? GW2 might not play nicely with those settings, then why do they have them? =P I’m not arguing with you, I pretty much know that’s the problem… but I feel like with my setup I really really shouldn’t…. everything is within my power to run all that easily. So ANET just needs to optimize it better.

There’s not a lot they can do to optimize the main bottleneck, Dx9/single threaded performance.

That’s all there is too it. Until you can throw enough single core horsepower at that thread,you wont get 60fps in events and whatnot. Even your high-end isn’t enough…nothing on the market is.

StoryMode.8256:

I find it hard to believe I can’t have the same :p even if I do have everything maxed and play at 4k

There’s your problem, there’s some settings that will absolutely kill your FPS in doing anything with a large amount of people.

• Shadows

• Reflections

• Character model limit and to a lesser extent,quality

• Suspersampling

Plus Gw2 doesn’t play nice with SLI, last I knew. Infact,besides stability issues which were plenty, it caused decreased performance.

Daily reminders?

That’s a good way to take a forced vacation from the forums.

Valeera.2683:

So, I am confused. Someone spoiled something on the map chat.

Pretty sure that falls squarely under griefing as far as Anet is concerned. That is, if it was done intentionally to ruin other players experience.

If it wasn’t intentionally spoiling then I’m not sure. The three people calling names might be at risk of a Verbal Abuse Ban,depending how bad the names were, since they decided to call attention to the matter.

thedog.7543:

I know of at least half a dozen people in my area alone who game at 4k, not to mention tons more online. You should actually do a little more research before opening your keyboard again. Might look a little smarter that way. Just because you don’t have one doesn’t mean that lots of people don’t either. Lots do and that’s getting bigger all the time.

This Steam Survey seems to paint an entirely different picture, with 27% of people playing on 1366 × 768(laptop resolution,typically), 34% playing on 1080p and .06% of people on 4k. By no means is it the end-all of Primary Monitor Resolution Surveys and im not sure how many of the 100 million active steam users were surveyed,but its better than your “tons”

thedog.7543:

Behellagh, Are you really that dense or are you just being stupid on purpose?

You should actually do a little more research before opening your keyboard again. Might look a little smarter that way.

Just wow.

It froze just once or is doing it repeatedly after 30ish minutes?

If it’s the latter, my first thought would be heat since the parts are kind of dated. Have you ever cleaned it? Or do you at least monitor temperatures? Speccy is a decent program for that.

Those tiny fans dont spin forever on their own.

That PC will do fine. The GPU isnt the strongest,low/mid-class, but the most important aspect, as far as high FPS is considered, is your CPUs “Single Core Performance” and the 4690(haswell refresh) has top notch Single Thread/Core scores.

Later on you can always add a new GPU,but that system will do “great”(Great still isnt great in the heaviest situations) for Gw2.

Inculpatus cedo.9234:

Why does the forum go down for you? Too much traffic where you live?

Some times the forums wont work for me,or is painfully slow, after a large update. Usually when the launcher is having trouble updating this happens.

As for OPs question: The Gw2 Reddit page usually has patch notes up very quickly(within minutes). Not to mention a user, That_Shaman, data mines the .dat file and finds all kinds of hidden things that aren’t mentioned.

Could be quite a few things. First things first,though.

What’s your PC specifications? CPU,GPU,RAM,OS.

Do you monitor temperatures? If not, download Speccy and have it running ontop of Gw2 and take a screen shot after 2-5 minutes.

Just did that fractal last night and had no prolems with the hammer.

The i3 2120 is a good bit better than the E8600, in Single and Multithreaded workloads.

Here’s a comparison of the E8600 and the i3 2100(which is the same as the 2120 with a slightly lower clock) from Anandtech . The “Cinebench R10” scores are what you’re looking for.

I would take the 6670 and put it in the i3 machine. You might have to swap power supplies but I doubt it,the 6670 is pretty low on power consumption.

It still wont pull 60fps on high but it is the best option for the two systems.

As Wing said; the “bottleneck” in the loading times is almost assuredly your Hard Drive.

On a fresh start of Gw2, loading into LA could take up to 2 minutes for me with Gw2 on a 7200rpm HDD, <20 seconds on an SSD.

Every load after the initial is around 7-15 seconds, depending mostly on how many players are in the immediate area.