Guild Wars 2

I’ve noticed markedly higher CPU usage(I like to refer to it as utilization) as well,but i noticed it first around 2 patches ago.

But ive not noticed any detrimental effects,in fact it seems to be running better!

CPU Utilization was always rather bad in Gw2. It would only use one core heavily which results in low overall CPU usage.

• i5 4690k @ 4.2ghz

• R7 260x 2gb @ 1170/1660

• 8gb G.skill Ripjaw X

Think you could post some pics? Fire up Gw2,get a screenshot of CPU-Z, your GW2 ingame graphic settings and possibly a screenshot of your Resource Monitor’s CPU tab.

SpyderArachnid.5619:

Beldin.5498:

2 GB ram is adequate ? You will either crash all day because OOM or your system
will swap on your harddrive like crazy and you will end at 1 frame every 5 seconds.

Windows® Minimum System Requirements

Windows® XP Service Pack 2 or better
Intel® Core 2 Duo 2.0 GHz, Core i3 OR AMD Athlon 64 X2, or better
2 GB RAM
NVIDIA® GeForce® 7800, ATI X1800, Intel HD 3000, or better (256 MB of video RAM and shader model 3.0 or better)
25 GB available HDD space
Broadband Internet connection
Keyboard and mouse

According to Anet, 2GB of RAM is adequate enough to run GW2 on minimum settings.

I’d almost pay money to see a C2D or an Athlon x2 with a 7800 GTX play Gw2.

You have to remember that its not only Gw2 using RAM..
This is after 2 minutes in LA.

As you can see,the system RAM started out at 1.7gb(Win7 Ultimate) with only 54 background processes, Palemoon(A 64bit only version of FireFox that runs much lighter on RAM) using the most at ~215mb.

After turning the camera and moving around for 2 minutes the RAM usage is over 3.5gb.

60FPS with drops to 20-40 during what?

WvW Zergs? World Bosses?

If so,that’s completely normal.

If it has these FPS drops while doing nothing intensive(Standing in a pve zone with 60fps one second and 40 the next) it could possibly be Thermal Throttling.

While CPU temperature and CPU Usage are related,Temperature Issues aren’t exclusive to high CPU Usage.

You’ll need a program like Speccy to read actual temperatures.

GPU-Z and CPU-Z are monitoring and diagnostic tools that tell us information about your components.

Ellieanna.5027 probably suspects your GPU isn’t running at full link speed. i.e PCI-E 3.0 x16.

It very well could be so. Although if you read some threads about AMD processors on these forums,you’ll find that the single most important aspect for GW2 performance,Individual Core Strength,is severely lacking in AMD CPUs compared to Intel CPUs.

Not sure anyone can say anything concrete about the graphics fidelity of the new content but you can almost be sure that newer games,or new portions of a game,will have a higher graphics fidelity level than the old.

Just take a look at Gw1 and GW:EN expansion. Many environmental overhauls were made to GWEN areas. The water effects still stand out in my memory.

Cathan.8047:

Windows 8.1 Pro 64 bit.
AMD Radeon R9 200 series HD. Two of them.
Intel i7-4790 CPU @ 3.60 GHZ
16.0 GB Ram, x64-based processor

Edit: It magically fixed itself when I quit the game and restarted it.

Glad it resolved itself but in the future,here’s some info for ya.

The R9 200 Series isnt a graphics card. It’s what it says it is,a series. An R9 290x is a specific card.
And the R7-R9 series doesnt use the HD suffix,that was from the previous AMD 7000 series.

No freezing here.

i5 4690k@4.2,r7 260x@1160/1660, AMD 15.5 betas

Gw2 has always had Occlusion issues(rendering massive bodies of water,complete with reflections, under most maps,for example). It makes your PC render things you can’t even see.
It can be good though; If you suddenly turn your camera ,quickly,behind you. You wont see as much of a FPS drop because the terrain is already rendered. But there’s many objects/effects that aren’t terrible to render-on-demand that are probably rendering all the time in the new map. Which really stresses the threads.

As it’s been said, You probably have to just give them time.

I wouldn’t buy a GPU at all right now.
It’s a hot time in the market with AMDs Fury X coming out soon. It should compete with the 980Ti in most areas and beat it in some.

Suspect price drops incoming! Especially for the “older*” r7/r9 AMD cards.

*Reliable Rumors and analytical observations(8gb GDDR5 vRAM on some models while the new HBM v.1 memory system can only support a max of 4gb) point to the “new” AMD 300 series(besides the Fury) being re-brands of the 200’s…which most were re-brands of the 7000s

I’m a little late but…

There was a patch that made Content Streaming a thing,you don’t have to add the Target Command anymore.

That means that by default everyone had/has it on. So this lag you were,and maybe still are, experiencing is most likely due to Gw2 streaming in data your Gw2.dat file was missing.
It should stop very shortly,depending on your connection speed. But there’s an option to change its behavior in your F11 menu,ingame.

Oldirtbeard.9834:

No GPU yet, the Tom’s Hardware guys seem to think that adding a GPU wouldn’t work because prebuilt MOBOs have Bios that prevent anything after market.

Used to post on Toms a lot and from my experience..I wouldn’t listen to most of the technical advice offered there.

As long as you have a PCI-E (x16 hopefully) slot,you can add an aftermarket GPU. You might have to upgrade the powersupply if you plan to get a decent card. OEM Powersupplies are notoriously junk/low power.

The main factor in Gw2 performance is Single Thread CPU strength and that i5 4460 is near the best on the market. Once you add a GPU the game should run great…besides where it doesn’t run great for anyone(Massive WvW,World Bosses).

Fermi.2409:

There’s no real reason for 16GB of RAM today, though, as long as gaming is your primary concern. 8 is plenty.

..For Gw2,yes.
In GTAV I commonly see 7.5gb of RAM* used(MSI AfterburnerRivatuner Statistics Server to monitor). and my settings are on mostly high with some medium.

Witcher 3 pretty much maxes out 8gb of RAM*.

All of this is good,its better to store data in RAM than access it from the HDD when needed,but the point is these games are,and have been,maxing out 8gb for some time.
It’s high time 16gb became the new enthusiast level minimum.

Edit; My 4690k+AsRock z97 Anniversary(Cheap)+Arctic Cooling Freezer7 Pro r.2 performs beautifully in all three games,dont think you’ll be disappointed.

Edit 2: Misread my own personalized color scheme.

If it were a bus interface problem,wouldn’t the other games run terrible as well?

Not that im doubting it could be, 1.1x-4x PCI-E slots have been a prevalent issue recently.

Well..Yesterday nvidia released the GeForce 353.06 driver for the 980 Ti. Have you downloaded it and if so,did the problem start immediately after upgrading or something else?

My performance is pretty much the same as it always is. 60fps solid in PVE,40-60 LA, 15-25 in large WVW,20-40 in world bosses.
i5 4690k@4.2, AMD r7 260x @1160/1670,8gb G.Skill Ripjaw X, Gw2 on an SSD.

Not any way supported by the game,that I’m aware of.

The rest would fall,easily,under modifying the game to gain an unfair advantage. Would earn you a ban.

Someone bought them all

But seriously,
Gw2 trade application runs on a separate Process called “CoherentUI_Host.exe *32”

You might want to allow the process through any firewalls/anti virus programs you have.
If that fails,id contact support.

Are you getting these 2x readings while gw2 is running?
There’s Power saving options that reduce bus link speed while idle.

What temperature was it reaching right before the crash? I cant see Gw2 stressing a GPU more than “Other games”(GTA V? The Witcher 3?) but letting it render at 90fps will cause extra heat. Very strange that capping the FPS didnt greatly reduce the load/heat. My 260x runs around 67-70c in Gw2, was at 67c with Unlimited Frame Limiter running at 60fps. Changed the cap to 30fps and it dropped rapidly to 63c and might have gone down more if i gave it time.

Will need screenshots of GPU load temperatures,ingame graphic settings and more information on case airflow(number of fans,their orientation,ect.).

It will most likely have to be a 32gb,as cedo said.

My GW2.dat is 21,412,932KB, or 21.4gb.

Just to save some time, you said you won’t play if you can’t get over 60fps.
You won’t get that. Not in normal, everyday, game play. Not with that CPU.

Had a similar set up not long ago. Athlon II x4 635@3ghz with an r7 260x and I got 40-60fps in starting zones, 15-30 in major towns like lions arch and 10-20fps in world bosses.
Upgrading the CPU to an i5 4690k brought huge gains though.

Caedmon.6798:

Rannith.9068:

guys thanks for debating this with me, I will definately get Intel down the road but for now I have what I have. I wish I would have known about this earlier…Honestly never had a program limit me so much because of my processor. AMD has always served me well over the years. but anyhow u guys the bulls vs the cavs are on nba dot come for free. playoffs baby~

Your cpu aint the issue ( It could use an OC though,theyre Made to OC.. )despite what people are making you believe here,they All got intels,most never used an AMD at all and all talk based on what they read online,and not from actual experience.I used to rock a fx 8120 at 4.6 ghz,Fps 100+ in most areas game nearly maxed out.Dont make yourself waste money when it isn’t necessary,something else is holding your fps back most likely,might also just be because you’re running it on stock.Besides you people should support AMD some more…if AMD ceases to exist or stop making cpu’s alltogether…Intel will kitten us from left to right and the prices will be insane

Btw: Turn off Vsync and put resolution to Full…do not play in windowed mode since it can lower your fps Drastically.

Except I,like SirSquishy, used AMD until my last build.
Played for years on an AMD Athlon II x4 935@3ghz with an AMD R7 260x 2gb 1160/1650 . 45-60fps in most PVE areas while alone,15-30 in LA,Single digits to 15fps in bosses.

Same set up but with an i5 4690k@4.2ghz on an AsRock Z97 Anniversary nets me 60fps solid in casual PVE,50-60 in LA(dips while turning the camera fast at the forge) and 30-60fps in world bosses.

While a popped cap would smoke,we dont know for sure where the cap was. It very well could be the PSU.

We dont even know his/her System Specs,just “Radeon HD 6700” which isnt an actual card,but a series of cards from the lightweight 6750 to the still decent 6790.

Can’t really suggest anything with so little info.

Where are you getting these FPS, large scale WVW? That’s normal.
All alone in a quiet spot in Orr? Then something is wrong.

…literally let the smoke out?

You might be looking at more than a simple GPU purchase.

download a program called GPU-Z, it has a reading for PCIE bus speeds.

Brother Grimm.5176:

…. and make sure it’s in the primary PCI-E x16 slot (usually the END of the slots…closer to the rear panel MB connectors).

Or, in standard format, closest to the CPU.

Do you have a large amount of processes running in the background? My win7 sits around 45 with MSI afterburner+rtss+wireless peripherals applications.

You could be eating up your cycles.

As is stated often in these parts, gw2 loves single thread CPU performance above all.

Over clocking is the best thing you can do for FPS, if your cpu and motherboard support it.

Behellagh.1468:

MrFayth.3546:

the trading post runs on its own process, awesomium.exe.

Try monitoring your task manager while the trade post is up and look for irregularities.

Not anymore. It’s now Coherent UI.

Oh really! That’s not one of the changes I suspected during my hiatus.
Big improvement?

Healix.5819:

Are you speed salvaging to a point where the loot queue goes rolling by for several minutes? That might have a memory limitation or an unhandled exception.

Logout to character select then back in to wipe it.

Back in gw1 and for some time in gw2 you would "disconnect " if you salvaged too fast. It was an anti-botting measure.

Not sure whats going on now, haven’t played in a few months.

the trading post runs on its own process, awesomium.exe.

Try monitoring your task manager while the trade post is up and look for irregularities.

Gw2s issue is with AMD processors and their weaker-than-intel single thread performance. Not with GPUs.

That said, do you have lots of background programs running that your brother doesn’t?

Also having problems here,with a weird side-effect.

After switching my Default Playback Device from Headphones to Speakers in Win7,Gw2 started playing through my headphones(So,the opposite of what i want).

At least switching the playback device caused Gw2 to recognize my audio devices ingame.

Otaur.9268:

have same issue:
I bypass this with the -emal email@blabla.com -password passwordhere -nopatchui

Tried it,it’s what i used to do with Gw1 to autologin.

Doesn’t work here though(it used too!),which kinda sucks for those of us with super long passwords with capitol letters mixed in,like we were advised for “security”.

Not sure what Squishy is trying to pull here..He knows enough about PCs to know this is pretty much BS.

Ive never seen a newer laptop/GPU/CPU that doesnt have thermal limits waaaay below what it takes to make smoke.

Maybe he’s just trying to get Ashley’s attention.

Yea that’s just a power ceiling,not a forced boost. Required for extreme Overclocking mostly.

If you’ve disabled PowerPlay and set up 2d/3d profiles correctly,you should get any dips in core clock,any time ingame.

Whats your system specifications and do you monitor temperatures while gaming?

Looks to me like the vRAM is overheating/unstably Overclocked.

Since you have MSI AB already and even a +20 powerlimit didnt stop the Core Clock Reduction for me,you could disable AMDs factory powersaving/thermal reduction software(PowerTune) which is what automatically controls your Core Clock.

It,in my experience,does a bad job of it. I’d get core clock reductions at the worst possible times(under stress) even with <70c temps.
If your temps are below 80c there’s no reason to not run your full clocks while gaming,right? The dynamic clocks just introduce stuttering.

To start,you’ll want to set custom clock profiles.

Use the sliders to set your Core and Memory MHZ to the default 3D speed (1100core/1625mem for reference 260x’s) and click apply then save to Profile 1.

Next drop the core and mem sliders all the way down,click apply and save to profile 2.

Now open the MSI AB Settings tab and navigate to “Profiles” and save the corresponding 2/3d clocks to the 2d/3d profiles Like this .

Then go to the “General” Tab in the same window and disable PowerTune(called PowerPlay in AB),like so

Now,after a restart,MSI AB should be in control of your clocks and you’ll have a stable,100% speed while gaming at the cost of higher idle(2d) clock rates(150/300 compared to 525/750 with my 260),which doesnt make a huge difference at all.

Also,my Sapphire 260x’s default Fan Profile kicked up way too late,it would wait until +75c before going over 50% fan speed,which is enough speed to keep it from getting hotter but i felt it was too hot still so i made a much more aggressive fan curve . Now the fans spin up much faster and i dont see Gw2 temps get over 70c with the same fan speed .

Edit: And my 260x is OC’ed to 1155/1662mhz Core/Mem.

Hello Mr.Peters!

First off,thank you for being so interactive with the player base.

Secondly; I started a thread on the GW2 Subreddit this morning moments after your request for feedback. It now has over 150 replies.

Give it a read

I havent seen a DDoS in GW2 in atleast 24 hours because the people responsible went and drew the wrong kind of attention(When you ground/divert flights,it gets the government involved).

And im not seeing any lag spikes/high pings/anything abnormal in game right now.

It’s not GW2’s fault alone.

Jamming? I assure you Guild Wars 2 is not causing your keys to “jam” (get stuck down/up)

Now if this isn’t your issue,you need to find another adjective.

Im guessing that’s Idle temps based on your northbridge and GPU temps.

Your CPU is very high for idle,its probably throttling while gaming to stop from frying itself.

Defragged with Defraggler?
Because,and someone correct me if im wrong, the Windows Defrag program wont touch files over 3GB in size and the GW.dat file is over 19gigs.

Edit: I use Auslogics Disk Defragmentation,myself.

Athlon II x4 635@3ghz idles 23-25c. After 10 mins in Gw2 it stays around 39c.
Case temps around 33c. Room temps around 20c.

“ANETZ FIX MY INTORNETZORZ!!!QQ!oneone1”

..seriously? I hope your support tickets have more information than this.
I thought there was a sticky about how to submit a tech support thread.How to phrase your question/inquiry,what information will be required in it,ect.

RavelordYolo.5924:

…npcs turning into dancing boulders. On top of it all there are huge blue strobe light looking streaks obstructing my vision…

Sounds like a good night on the town for RavelordYolo!

Do NOT threaten with reports,you sent the mail all on your own. No scams present. You might just get banned for threatening.

Opening a ticket will be mostly useless,Anet stays out of player mail/guild vaults for reasons.

Haru Kane.4623:

I have done that, GPU/CPU dont rise over 75 ever.

75c for a CPU is rather toasty! It’s acceptable for a GPU though.

You never said what your ingame graphic settings are. If you’re trying to play with Supersampling+ Everything else on high/ultra at 1080p….low FPS should be expected.

Some preliminary advice; Shadows and reflections are HUGE FPS hits,turning those down will increase FPS more than most any other setting.