Guild Wars 2

Doubt you’ll see it coming if it does happen.

There’s been many many requests for the opposite, a larger UI, from people with 1440p/4k monitors and never has a Dev commented on it, from what I’ve seen.

Still works for me.

Didn’t change anything after the patch.

Getting into areas that I’m not terribly familiar with, Macs.

Good thing I don’t suspect its the Mac. It sounds an awful lot like your routers Dynamic Host Configuration Protocols IP release/renew timer since the game isn’t actually freezing, just the data being sent to the servers is interrupted.

You can read this for more information on DHCP and IPs

Long story short: Check your routers release timers to see if the coincide with the interruptions to/from the GW2 servers. I suspect they do.

Disclaimer: I really don’t like giving networking advice here as, unlike with a “personal computer”, if something goes wrong with the router you’ll likely kill the internet for the whole house.

First you have to pinpoint if the drops are simply from alt+tabbing to desktop or if they happen when the game window is up.

Start GW2 then log in somewhere and stand, then bring up GPU-Z’s sensor tab and let it sit ontop of the GW2 window so you can see both at once, watch the clock speeds.

If they’re dipping that low while the game is being drawn, theres an issue with heat or voltage limits.

If its not dropping then GPU clocks aren’t a problem and I’d still be unsure what the problem is. Because there is a problem.

Your CPU are known for having weak single threaded performance compared to Intel but it’s not weak enough to produce 20ish FPS during light pve gameplay.

Fermi is on point with that advice. You might be able to re-use the GPU that was in your old PC and put that money towards a nice SSD which is a HUGE load time improvement and it will make your whole PC much snappier if you put your OS on it.

Though be warned: “Maximum graphics with no problem” doesn’t happen, to anyone with any CPU/GPU. You’ll still see giant slowdowns to around 15-30FPS during The Frozen Maw event(others get bad, but this is arguably the worst offender) and large scale WvW.

Not to mention Full Reflections is terribly un-optimized. Half of the reflections going on you will never see, because its reflections going on the water under maps.

That is strange. After about 600 hours playing a rev I’ve never noticed FPS drops when using Dragon Stance elite, and I surely would have if it was that severe. My rig isn’t super powerful either(see signature).

What’s your laptop model/specifications?

The elite skill in question is a big more graphically intensive than many. On top of the animation,textures and meshes it also creates and pushes particles forward but I can’t picture that being enough to cause FPS drops as described.

noWays.1487:

Maze.3825:

OP,
The screenshot you’ve attached that shows the sensor tab shows idle clocks. Maybe this is the reason for your low fps.

What do you mean ? Can you explain for a noob ? Please

Your GPU has a Core and Memory clock. Higher clocks = more performance (in most cases)

Your GPU also has powersaving features that lower the clocks when they arent needed, like idling on desktop or web browsing. It picks up clock rates when you start a game or a 3D rendering program.

Your first screenshot shows those clocks and when the screen was taken they’re only doing ~ 135 core/ 202 memory when they should be at 1140/1753.

Those dips in the graph where the clock rates drop down could be a problem, or it could be normal if those low areas are caused from you not running a game or being tabbed out to desktop.

noWays.1487:

1920×1080 is my resolution

Your previous screenshot shows in-game resolution of 1680×1050.

Playing in a non-native resolution can lower performance. Flip it to 1080 and see how it goes.

Right click your Gw2 desktop shortcut, select “properties” at the bottom and in the “Target” field it should list your installation path, something along the lines of

“C:\Program Files\Guild Wars 2\Gw2-64.exe”

After the last quotation mark add space then -repair so it looks like

“C:\Program Files\Guild Wars 2\Gw2-64.exe” -repair

Hit “Apply” and then click the shortcut to let the game do a repair. Report back if there’s any more crashing.

Also turn your reflections down, they’re a major performance killer for the graphics fidelity added (Not much).

Edit: After the repair dont forget to remove the -repair command from the target box.

If you’re mapping into a populated place like the LA bank, 14 seconds is pretty normal. At least for me on my SSD.

Home instances and Mistlock Observatory load times are about 7-10 seconds as well.

Razor.6845:

It seems crazy but I’d pay gem to re-enable them on my account.

Don’t give them ideas..Please. I can see it now

• New Item in the Gem Store
  How To Idle (vol 1) for 1867 gems!

Firstly, what’s your PC specs? CPU, GPU, RAM, OS.

I have never seen this issue, nor heard of it.

The first thing that comes to my mind is Pixel/Texture Fillrate maxing out on your GPU, since spinning the camera quickly requires fills more rapidly than normal movement and the Hero Tab, with its preview of your character, adds another layer of draws.

The GPU would have to be kind of weak, though.

Have they fixed Aviras GUI yet?

I used it for a long time but then around June last year they pushed an auto-update that changed the GUI and the new GUI wouldnt let your GPU go into powersaving mode/reduced clocks..At all.

I had been in touch with a developer about it but last communication was months ago.

I’m sure they’ve fixed it by now, it would be murder on laptop batteries.

Images from my testing

FlamingFoxx.1305:

The idiom “like hell”

You’ve never heard someone tell someone else they better “Run like hell”?

Anyway,

OP, If you could download GPU-Z and take a screenshot like this we could possible rule out the most common problem, GPU Bus Interface Speed.

Nightmare, if you could download GPU-Z and then take a screen shot of Gw2 running with GPU-Z in the foreground, like this it would help me rule out a common problem with the GPU Bus Interface Speed.

Edit: Nevermind, just saw your reply in the other thread. It’s your CPU bottlenecking you.

Though why its performing THAT badly, I can only assume due to Bloat on your system.

First we’d need to know what CPU/GPU you have.

HoT did bring higher fidelity graphics in things such as smoke and shadows, both are heavy CPU hitters.

There has also been performance optimizations done since HoT. Like moving things away from the main draw-call thread.

Higher CPU Usage is a good thing unless, of course, if your game was already running at a smooth 60fPS lock(which im sure it wasnt) and the visuals had no increase.

Both of which aren’t the case with GW2. It doesn’t keep 60fps on any system and they’ve added/tweaked visuals.

penelopehannibal.8947:

Inculpatus cedo.9234:

Have you, or have you not, contacted the CS Team about this issue? Nothing less will garner you a possible positive outcome.

About 20 forum members have either suggested or asked this, and the OP is still tip-toeing around this issue! >.<

I’m starting to think Sarasvatri is correct with this assumption

After reading through OPs history, reviewing topics made here about game issues or reddit threads.

Something tells me someone is bored and wants drama.

Strange. Don’t think I’ve seen that before.

Make sure the Gw2 window is targeted by clicking on the icon. Then press Alt+Enter.

Alt+Enter switches the current window between full screen and Windowed mode.

Or if you’re on Windows 10, Ctrl+Shift+M.

No DirectX upgrades planned, or really possible, as far as I know.

Further reading from the horses mouth,though

It’s your CPU, AdelaisAer.

GW2 thrives more on Single Threaded Performance/IPC than anything else.

And AMD is well known to be much weaker than intels.

Sounds exactly like the PCI-E x1/x4 bug.

But I’m going to suggest downloading GPU-Z and taking a screenshot like this (ignore CPU-Z)

I’m betting your Bus Interface is sticking in the powersaving PCI-E x1/x4 mode when it should go x16 or at least x8 in certain situations.

If it does show x1/x4, take your GPU out of the slot and put it right back in. Make sure its seated firmly.

Polly, Your problem is called Stereoscopic Rendering.

There’s a setting for it in your nvidia control panel(assuming you have nvidia) and one ingame.

Make sure both are disabled.

Illconceived Was Na.9781:

(I don’t mean to discourage the OP, just to remind them that it’s not enough to say, “I was young and foolish”.)

I do mean to discourage them from submitting these tickets.

He admits he broke the rules and his only explanation is that he was young…there’s some things that people should not bother support with while there’s much larger issues at hand.

I’m guessing the LFG tool isn’t an acceptable solution for him due to language barriers…

Which really isn’t anets problem either.

FrenzyApe.5809:

MrFayth.3546:

They can do it…but “I was young” is generally not an accepted excuse to behaviors violating the ToS.

I stated the reason was valid how can i have an excuse for something thats valid

You want them to excuse the behavior, and unban your account, because you were young. (the only explanation you’ve offered)

That’s generally not an accepted excuse.

That’s all I’m sayin’.

Maze.3825:

It’s completely untrue. It cannot be done with even a GTX 980.
I have one and cannot max all settings with a playable frame rate in any real circumstance. Not gonna happen. Impossible. Never has been. It’s irrational to think otherwise.
My goodness.

You’re fooling yourself if you think its the GPU that’s unable to pull +40fps in gw2 with max settings. Gw2 is rather light on GPUs.

The bottleneck is elsewhere, in the CPU.

Maze.3825:

Hello,
Lately the preconfigured One Click Here options for drivers seem quite popular and perhaps even effective for most games.

Popular? Yes. Effective? Not at all.

Maze.3825:

They claim that at the 1080P level Maximum Settings can be achieved with a minum of 40 fps or greater with a GTX 950. This is not only untrue but completely misleading to the potential consumer market & my main reason for attempting a discussion here within our online community.

It’s not untrue. A GTX 950 can probably run the game on max settings at 1080p while keeping over 40FPS if it wasn’t held back by the CPU. And if some of the ingame settings weren’t so terribly optimized.

At the end of the day, you’ll get what you put in to things like this.

1 click configure? Ok but you’re not going to get great results.

They can do it…but “I was young” is generally not an accepted excuse to behaviors violating the ToS.

That’s CPU-Z, it’s a similar diagnostic but it’s unneeded in this(and most) situations.

The problem is your “Bus Interface”, the motherboard is capable of PCI-E 3.0 x16 but what it’s showing while running is PCI-E 1.1 x16 which is severely limiting your bandwidth.

Try pulling the video card out and putting it back in, “Re-seating”. It usually solves the issue.

Are you using the new AMD Crimson software? Have a profile set up for Gw2 in it?

Kill it completely and try playing.

Not sure why but having a crimson profile, completely default settings, for Gw2 eats about 15fps from Gw2 with my, barely adequate, 260×.

GPU isnt terribly bottlenecked by lane speed anymore and now it starts freezing after 10-15 mins?

Taking into consideration the HD 6900 series is going on 6 years old, it very well could be overheating.

Since you have GPU-Z installed. Play for as long as you think you can before the freeze, 5-10 mins should be fine, and take a screen shot of the sensor tab to show its temperature.

I know the HD6000 series with the stock blower style fans were hot runners…

Sounds lots like the PCI-E x1/x4 “bug”(for lack of a better term) that has been going around.

Download GPU-Z, start it up and take a screenshot like this when your FPS is “randomly” low.

I’m willing to bet your GPU isnt going into x16 lane speed.

Very welcome Fundor.

fmaga.1802:

http://gpuz.techpowerup.com/16/01/31/pwa.png

It should be correct O.o
in what we have to change? We have this problem only with GW2

Your GPU is also not going into its full x16 speed. Make sure its in the PCI-E slot closest to the CPU and re-seat it if you haven’t already.

Erickmwc.9135:

are reaching it’s maximum capacity even while I’m writing here with nothing more open (except avast) – http://gpuz.techpowerup.com/16/01/31/52j.png

We need to see a screenshot like the others have provided, the main tab on GPU-Z with Gw2 running.

Maze is correct.

I believe re-seating your GPU will solve your woes, Fundor.

By the way, is that FRAPS you’re using to monitor FPS/record?

It’s terribly resource intensive compared to newer, h.264/265, options like MSI Afterburner and Shadowplay.

Fundor, If you could download GPU-Z and take a screenshot like this (without CPU-Z for now) and upload it.

Many times the problem is the PCI-E Bus Link Speed isnt going into x16 mode from its idle state of x1/x4.

Reseating the GPU usually helps if that’s the problem.

Thanks for the prompt reply.

Cya in LA.

Was doing a Guild Trek today and ran to Forgotten Grotto. Upon entering the gamma increasingly brightened, this was about the worst it got.

After getting further through, towards the trek target, it normalized. Everything else was normal after that as well.

Chaotic, and everyone else with this problem.

If you could do a test for me. Download GPU-Z and when this problem occurs take a screenshot like this (Gpu-Z on top of the Gw2 window)

Ignore CPU-Z for the moment.

Beldin.5498:

Why should i explain it ..

Just pure curiosity on my part.

I find the behavior incongruent and just wondered if someone, more knowledgeable than I, could shed some light as to why Gw2 behaves so badly when other games are less effected.

synk.6907:

For what it’s worth, someone’s “fine” may not be the full performance their computer is capable of handling / should be doing.

Usually the case is

Everything runs “ok” then one day Gw2 runs much worse than it previously did while other games are uneffected.

It’s just strange because its a GPU link speed issue and Gw2 is very GPU-lite compared to games like Fo4.

If it wasn’t a GW2 issue, you’d think you would see more so in other games.

Beldin.5498:

It has nothing to do with GW2 .. if the GPU does or does not use all 16 lanes its
already visible in GPU-z if you are only on your Windows desktop. So in the end
this is more a problem of bad mainboard or case design or whatever.

How do you explain all the cases of Gw2 being the only game whos performance suffers terribly?

I remember many many examples of people with this exact problem also stating that games like Fo4 run fine.

Just pull the card out and reseat it.

Usually works

Hope Frostfallenpoet hasn’t gave up and tries this.

Demon.5923:

no, sorry that was not possible, since I am using wine under fedora linux.

Ah sorry, I have very little knowledge of Linux.

Anserath.7195:

I have all power settings set to high performance. While I have a 3.0 GPU and a 2.0 PCIe slot that it’s in, I don’t think that’d matter. Every other game I play is fine, even the typically erratic Wildstar.

A 2.0 slot is plenty for a PCI-E 3.0 GPU but that’s not the issue. Often times that PCI-E 2/3 is stuck at 1x or 4x link speed(where it rests when idle) instead of 8x or 16×. That’s where the issue arises.

And dozens upon dozens of times, it’s only an issue that shows itself in Gw2.

Ask a Tech Support regular like Beldin or Behellagh. It’s a pretty common issue since Win10.

Healix.5819:

GW2 actually requires more than 2 cores if you want high-res textures. For just playing though, 2 cores should be enough, however, keep in mind that the CPU would be nearly dedicated to GW2. It’d be best to go with a 4 core, especially if you wanted to plan for future games. For an example of CPU usage, on an i7 2600k with only 3 cores, GW2 is using 90% on high settings.

Agree with everything you said, just wanted to input my findings from extensive monitoring.

Gw2 uses around 70-80% of my i5 4690k @ 4.2ghz with not many extra programs running.

MSI Afterburner+RivaTuner Statistics Server, Antivirus, and Fan controller software.

Programs like Firefox still start up nearly instantly on the other monitor while playing,though.

Though this seems software/patch related..

Just for kicks, think you can download GPU-Z, fire it up and then start GW and take a screenshot like This?

CPU-Z can be disregarded for the moment.

As RedZebra said: Your GPU isnt going into its full PCI-E 3.0 x16 lane speed. Are you savvy enough to take the Videocard out and put it back in? That usually fixes it.

But on top of that, your CPU isn’t going into its loaded clock speed of 3.4ghz. That is most likely a powersaving issue that might resolve itself when your GPU bus speed issue is fixed. If not, you should look into your Windows Power Profiles.

There’s usually a High Performance profile and a Power Saving Profile by default. You’ll want to make sure its not on Power Saver.

You can edit the profiles yourself by going into “Change advanced power settings”. The specific bit you’ll be looking for is Processor Power Management→Minimum/Maximum Processor States.

Sounds like you’re talking about “Screen Tearing”. Which is an issue you get when your when your FPS fall out of sync with your monitor refresh times.

Have you enabled Vertical Sync in the Game Graphics Options?

Yes. Depending on how far you take the “flaming”.

(Which is a broad term that doesn’t describe much at all)

ShinyDay.5349:

And like someone else pointed out fact about upgrading PC to run on 4K.

Most gamers have PC rig worth below 1000$, and I don’t think you can run GW2 on 4K with high/ultra settings at 60 FPS.

God Of Fissures.8627:

GW2 @ high/ultra settings at 4K resolution with 60FPS is easily achievable with 980Ti, TITAN X, etc.

The Titan X is a $1000 GPU and the cheapest 980 Ti is $570. Put that together with a CPU that wont bottleneck the crap out of the video card and create a bottleneck on the thread handling Draw Calls and you’re getting very close to a +$1000 PC already.