Guild Wars 2

I like… hmm…. hmmm… oh wait… i like…..

Nothing.

Allie Murdock.8152:

Hey, you should watch this! http://www.twitch.tv/guildwars2guru/c/2517953

Doesn´t really matter having 235023952 states of the game when this game´s pvp is horrible and poor in terms of quality and variability.

Well in gw1 you could join only 1 guild at a time and there were alliances.
the thing is that the star game mode was GvG

Its fun how developers care to make only new map for this horrible game mode while they should be making new fun challenging real game modes and reworking and fixing completely all the horrible bugs regarding all classes. its been 10 months and the game isnt fixed yet? What were the beta phase´s for then? Really?

-Pvp is still very bad.
-Only 1 pvp mode (No guild vs guild, no deathmatch), which is awful and boring to play, not to mention to watch (250 viewers daily @ twitch, when diablo 3 has nearly no pvp and has constant 4k+)
-The useless traits and skills released in the beginning, havent been changed, being this coming patch a very narrow modify to 5% of them.
-The actual pvp mode is in itself very bad, being no real solo q, matching casuals against teams. Poor development.

I bought it in the release, played active for 5 months, when I saw the slow progress of patching, I decided to quit, and it was a good decision.
For what i keep watching in the patches from time to time, the progress to develop the game is very bad in terms of quality but also slow.
I think the game will have the necessary health and care in 2-3 years more (and maybe some features will never be released), considering the speed of introducing stuff.
The thing is by that time, there will be so nice games out there in the market that most pvpers won´t even remember gw2. But I will remember gw1, that was a real pvp game, fun and competitive.

GL & HF ^^

I dont understand why few ppl even care about balancing skills like if their life went ahead that. The problem is much deeper (tho this has been said before me)

whole pvp is pointless since it has only 1 mode

this mode has the terrible and boring idea to be about capturing and holding its circle.

i started playing because i am old school gw1 pvper. that was a real pvp game. Pretty sure everyone who played it agrees with this assumption.

after some weeks and being top ranked in my server i left due to lack of pvp content, which makes it boring, compared to how exciting and fun is League of Legends.

I do understand the massive quit from top players and teams considering how bad was and is this pvp.

The pvp does not need actually only balance, the pvp needs a whole epic rework introducing multitude of game modes. I wonder who had the terrible idea to make it consist about 3 nodes. That´s just horrible man, get original.

Tbh I´d like my money back, since I´m not satisfied with this pvp.
GW2 will never get to esport, deal with it. Not fun to watch. Not fun to play.

I, by one, left the game months ago, and got back to LoL, where I´m having big fun and enjoy my free times.

Just one advice, if you dont find fun in this game, dont keep playing it, cause its not going to change, developers go ahead with their mistakes.

HF & GL

I completely support the idea of remaking this pvp.
It needs ha//gvg//ra//ta//HB// etc etc etc

Right now is the worst crap ever released.

kito.1827:

as you are answering the same all the time, i cant see constructivness in this thread…

The constructiveness is in solo´s facing premades

This does happen in a quite high percentage of matches.

Solution?

- Make solo´s vs solo´s
It´s this way easy!

Airdrie.1706:

Harrywinky.8632:

milo.6942:

well, if we want to have constructive criticism, we should start with realistic numbers.

you don’t get 90% of games vs premades. my personal experience has been about 50%, maybe a little less. the core issue is that even 1 loss to a premade team is seen as an unfair fight, and anet is to blame for it. how can a pug ever hope to compete with a premade? why should they?

For me, it is 90% vs premade

You want a constructive thread. But you are not contributing to it with this kind of answers…

On my expirience, was around 30-50% vs premades., and going down.

About a 4vs5, i think they still working on it.

Your experience = 30-50
My experience = 90%+ games i have to deal with teams.

So for me, not a viable solo Q (and for a massive opinion from players, they think same like me)

So for me, it is the worst solo Q ever made.
I keep getting premades all the time, now it is 95%, only face premades, and my team, only solo´s.
So yes, it is realistic, it is 95%

milo.6942:

well, if we want to have constructive criticism, we should start with realistic numbers.

you don’t get 90% of games vs premades. my personal experience has been about 50%, maybe a little less. the core issue is that even 1 loss to a premade team is seen as an unfair fight, and anet is to blame for it. how can a pug ever hope to compete with a premade? why should they?

For me, it is 90% vs premade

kito.1827:

Harrywinky.8632:

1. 90% Games solo´s are matched against PREMADE teams.

well, i play myself and have to say this is far from being realistic. i get about 20-30% and its getting less.

Harrywinky.8632:

2. There is a huge gap between ranks in those games.

yes it is, but as long as mmr is independent of rank, and as long as rank is just a number for time invested in zergfest, i dont care about rankgap and you should neither.

Harrywinky.8632:

3. There are lots of matches starting 4vs5.

this really is an issue and as far as i know devs are working on it.

Harrywinky.8632:

Why punish so much solo players Anet? Do you realize how soon is this pvp going to die?

the Q leavers should get punished, instead the ones left forced to play 4vs5 are punished. imo that is not ok.
but pvp is going to die? well, as long as i can remember, pvp is going to die. this startet some 7 or so years ago in gw1. People are way too much complaining all the time.

so long…

For me, it´s 90% games vs premade.

1. 90% Games solo´s are matched against PREMADE teams.
2. There is a huge gap between ranks in those games.
3. There are lots of matches starting 4vs5.

IS this your concept of solo q? When does facing a full premade make any sense?

Why punish so much solo players Anet? Do you realize how soon is this pvp going to die?

In this system =

You make a team premade (same ranks 40+)
= U win all times vs solo q´s.
thats just a fact.

that´s how we gona make it to e-sport.
Now the gap between casuals and teams will get bigger and bigger.

Casuals get stomped by premades = bad gameplay experience = they leave pvp.

Jacobin.8509:

Tyler Bearce.3427:

So as people play more games they’ll start to settle again.

Basically it sounds like Anet is saying let the premade teams destroy your rating until you are so low that you will be less likely to face them.

Solo queue = low rated players without teams. If at any point you start to win you will again be matched against pre-mades until you are knocked back down.

Its IMPOSSIBLE to achieve a high rank as a solo player, which defeats the entire point of having rating for solo players in the first place.

The best statement i´ve seen all the day

I keep solo Q´ing with all solo Q´s and fighting Vs premades with high ranks.

If you say you are making a solo Q don´t mix premade teams vs soloers

Right now in this game
5 man teams are playing versus low ranked solo q´ers.

Anet. You did it wrong. This is not equality. It´s not matchmaking.
If you put a solo Q, it´s not solo Q vs Premade Team.

Do the developer team realize how frustrating is to state the introduction of a solo Q when it is unreal and they will face premades with weird ranks?

solo q =

Randoms VS Premade
r1´s VS r50+´s
4 VS 5
——————————————————————————————-

Bye Bye Anet.

Ok, I was terribly upset by my first post. I apologize for this 5 minutes duration rage.
It was because I´m r44, got a nice ratio of wins in tournament. Guess what.
I go solo Q, I get ppl below r20 and we face premade with ranks 40-50

I was like… wtf is this???
I lose rating because the matchmaking solo q vs team q fails terribly

There needs to be solo q vs solo q not solo q vs team q

thats totaly absurd and disadvantaging.

fix.

soon.

thx

No tiers.

Only builds. When they make the further updates people will see there is no “best class” or tier S whatever.
It is “better build” or “better teambuild”.

anet themselves do not support the idea of “tiers classes” in this game, it makes them have a poor image. this is not mortal kombat with 20+ heroes nor league of legends dota with 70+ heroes.

Ok, as soon as I saw this dumb thread title I wanted to contribute with this:

Whoever wants to make a “tier list” from league of legends thread in gw2 is seriously kitten since there are builds and teambuilds, no tiers for single classes alone. This random bullshlt is making me mad. This is build wars not league of legends, which has xxx heroes instead of 8. Jesus.

Stop it.

/thread plz.

just put real rank emotes like gw1 not the actual bs we have

plz. just plz. not the actual bvllshlt there is out in the game.

also. real rank emotes, like the ones in gw1, not the terrible flag emotes in gw2.

Terrible development.

thief shall be nerfed due to oportunity cost inexistent in his skills.

dude i dont even play underwater since august or so.
im happy with underwater tweaks and fixes.
but lick wounds shall be fixed.

Yes, fix it. No, don´t nerf it.

You must be new to ranger if you don´t know yet that pet mechanics are bugged.

Besides that,

None cares about underwater battles since it´s just insignificant for sPVP tournaments.

How the hell is an ability Overpower when it doesn´t even work? LOL

i´m talking about ranger downed and drowned state need rework for lick wounds since it doesn´t work half of the times. Along 2k+ matches with my ranger is enough to test nº3 usage and reliance.

You have played against very few rangers.

/thread plz lol

Dude, Lick wounds (nº 3 downed) doesn´t even work 50% times… wtf u complaining about?

/thread plz

yes ranger needs a buff to make his traits worth anything and fix the bugs in evrrything.
right now 80*/* rangrr traits are rubbish and pets are still dumb.
fix the bugs joder cabronzz anet take care of ranger 6 months all bugs and dumb traits without a rework

as bloodness said. ranger can only trap and bunk. to fix this. they have to rework all the class.

felivear.1536:

But Java says they are easy-mode and only PZ makes them good. I’m confused.

that guy will tell anet to nerf whatever his interests need to.
ranger should be buffed or at least fix his massive bugs everywhere

rework all spirits…

remove bug from sharpen edges with multi shot skills….
like some top 100 europe qp players said.
ranger will need a complete rework, otherwise, its viability will be only by 2 builds, bm / trap, since only viable trees are bm and survival.

ranger needs a real rework to 80% of his traits and weapons.

ok so then, fix all the ranger bugs in the ranger subforum too, right?

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/ranger/Ranger-Bug-List/page/6#post1023523

also… give pets improved ability to hit targets, pets get correct usage of f2, pets start attacking fast after f4 switch.
rebalance beastmaster trait to 50% instead 25%
give signet of wild interaction with “F” hotkey.
give better condition removal to signet.
lower all the enormous cooldowns on signets.
make viable greatsword, make viable longbow.
rework 80% of ranger traits since they dont make any sense.
rework just everything about the ranger…….

~ random r43 ranger with 2k matches with him

Troll.

15 char

Start taking into consideration wins/losses after they implement it?
Or will it have previously recorded all of your wins/losses before the rating system starts?

Can´t make a team in my server… no people playing paid….

Can´t enter by myself…. terrible pvp..

~ random r42 player

Of course matchmaking is one of the multiple things this pvp needs, like other modes, hall of heroes, etc…

but being able to solo queue paid tournaments is important, if possible just face another people in solo queue as well, and match them via rank.

Since paid has no matchmaking they have to introduce solo queue entering paid tournament.

But even with matchmaking there should be spot for solo queue.

Albeit this idea is really good, and makes much more sense than the actual trees…
Some traits would need to be rebalanced then, like some are more powerful traits than others… But I completely support this suggestion.

Even in the current state of game, half of the traits are just useless in pvp/pve and some others don´t even reflect what they actually do.

+1

Shukran.4851:

first of all just to be sure:
competitve scene = “proplaying”

in gw1 you didnt need voice chat if u ran iway of lame stuff. i would have seen you playing some spike build with no voice chat.

RA, TA were not in competitive scene.

gvg you needed voice chat to play properly.

then lol, competitive scene of lol is tournaments. i would like to see you joining a tourney with a team with no cvoice chat.

as the guy above me said, this thread is absolute nonsense

You are very wrong in your statement,
competitive scene is not “Proplaying”, a competitive scene can be considered any competitive environment regardless if the player who plays is pro or not.
Some of the best players in games aren´t even professional, so, no.
like there is solo join in free tournament, there should be the possibility to do the same in paid.

It has lot of sense, and it is a very important petition which would make pvp community happier than before.

If you cannot discuss with arguments, you are giving us the reason that we need this option to become available in paid tournaments.

Unfortunately for you, the discussion right now is under the rules, so no moderator is going to close the thread, unless they decide to move into suggestions “subforum”.

Empathetic Fighter.2065:

I’m really sorry to say that but then it’s the false game for you. Allrdy in GW1 to be competitive enough you had to have a voice-chat. I don’t wanna say ppl that haven’t much time to spend into GW2, shouldn’t be able to play on a competitive platform, but this is how it goes in every game. And I actually don’t wanna play against a random team as in free-tournaments. I prefer hard matches instead of free wins.

And then again, I´m really sorry to tell you that you are wrong.

Voice chat was not needed to win hall of heroes, neither a gvg top match.
Voce chat was not needed to win 60+ games in random / team arenas. And I say this because I have the personal experience from it, since I was Glad 9 Champ 2 in old gw1.
In league of legends you don´t need a voice chat to be competitive in high elo solo queue.
In Guild Wars 2 you don´t need voice chat to win free & paid tournaments, as I from personal experience have done multiple times before.

For “Hard Matches” you´ll get matchmaking / monthly tournaments. So, there should be an spot for everything.

Synthesizing: There needs to be an option to enter paid tournament on your own if you feel you want to, since it is at your own risk, it does not damages anyone and enriches the game experience and options for casual and hardcore gamers.

Remember not everyone can hold a fixed daily timeframe to train with a team because of social life, and that should not be an excuse to get him out of the fun part of PvP.

Again no.

And no because if there are no people online in the mists or there is no people going to organize paid tournament, I shouldnt be restricted to play paid at that time.
And no, because if every team asks to be in teamspeak raidcall or whatever voice programm and I don´t want to play the game having to do that, I shouldn´t be forced into it and relegated from paid.
The fact pvp is not enough competitive is very wise and not only just because of 1v1 paid tournaments. It is also because of the very little population which could be mproved by part by doing this I mentioned above

Definitely the biggest fail in this game was to make something called conquest around 3 kitten circles….

ANET WE NEED HEROES ASCENT, RANDOM ARENAS, GVG, CTF, ETC…!!!!!!!

Shar.3402:

I hope it will never be possible, if you want to play solo, there are hotjoins and free tournaments, leave paids to organized teams.

If I cannot have a premade team running 365 days every night because I have a social life, I should be able as well to join the competitive scene, and not only be restricted to hot join and free tournies.

Adding the option to enter as solo/duo queue is also healthy, and it will be of course at your own risk, but there should be the option.

NONE should be restricted to play only hot join/frees just because they don´t have a daily team running.

they definitely MUST MAKE IT POSSIBLE

it´s simply the burning damage.

Only thing I can say is I completely agree with the opener.

I play tons of hours, I play nearly everyday, but…

I have duties in my life to do, like I´m going to the university, I have a work as well.

There is no way I can compromise myself into playing every night, since some nights i´ll want to go out with my friends. That´s why it is so nonsense for me to get into any compromise, because I just can´t fill it.

I´m a rank 42, maybe the best ranger of my server, isn´t it a shame I won´t be able to get into monthly tournaments just because this game is designed to forcefully play with the same guys over months?

Is there any chance anet can understand the situation of players like me?

nerva.7940:

im glad ure enjoying yourself with that build OP, and it may be ok for WvW. but for spvp it’s quite terrible as you have no survivability other than SoS. survivability builds tend to revolve around the BM and wilderness lines, along with condition damage. but you could try power regen builds. you’ll hit like a wet noodle without precision though.

This guy knows what he´s talking about…

ItIsFinished.9462:

Harrywinky.8632:

Just roll a trapper and u´ll do fine in pvp

I was rolling over trapper builds last night. In fact, he messaged me asking how I was doing so much damage and what weapon I was using.

I hope you don´t mean i asked you, anyway, there are better builds than the ones mentioned above.

Idk if you are really r42 or 3k matches, but if you (or any of the guys above) want to manage the duel with me, i´ll gladly accept.