Guild Wars 2

Stop talking bullshiz. ranger is doomed to offtank bunker

Didnt notice the chat conversation before. There goes my games as ranger

bumped until dev answer

i´d like some words about the R80 prestige system Evan talked about some time ago

bubble 4 turret trait
explosion with knockback trait on turret
triple turrret fire inmmob & damage.

pistol shield

Chriswho xD lol

- 2 vs 2 / / 3 vs 3 Game mode

- Guild Wars Game mode. Lord / / castle fights. Maps // isle // copy paste gw1 gvg / ha maps. Easy.

- Ladders with specific rewards for conquest. Unique titles, unique skins, unique weapons for pvp players.

- More skills / balance of existing skills. More build diversity.

- 1 vs 1 duel game mode.

- 8 vs 8 heroes ascent like game mode.

- precursors / legendary weapons for high performance on ladders both solo team q.

- Higher gold income from matches in pvp.

- Reworked rank system to convert it to rank 80 prestige system. New polished and prestigious finishers. Ways of showing pvp performance, leaderboard presence, experience in pvp.

swiftness unlimited @gwesports

It happens sometimes to my ranger.
Some way of breaking it is to use some movement skill like swoop or leap or stalkers strike.
You can also get cced then u are done.

Doesnt happen too often but worth having a look
Tho u cant expect nothing about this devs lloll

RedStar.4218:

Nary Why Irk.8150:

yea but the purpose of that skin who is called exotic is just to gamble on mystic forge for a precursor chance :P

No the reward track final reward isn’t an exotic, it’s a skin. For example, if you finish the kryta track, you don’t get to choose a ceremonial item with exotic stats, you get to choose which ceremonial skin you want, with no stats at all.

Kind of like when you buy a gem shop armor or most black lion weapons : you get a skin with no stats.

i was talking about the dungeon exotics reward track

yea but the purpose of that skin who is called exotic is just to gamble on mystic forge for a precursor chance :P

although if you want to go for something more rewarding , region at least gives you secured good amount of obsi shards and mystic clovers x2

it depends.
region tracks give better rewards to craft legendary
region gives all the time obsi shards and in the end 2 mystic clovers.

otherwise if you go for the dungeon, they give the 4 exotics, which you can gamble at mystic toilet maybe you get a precursor, or you can salvage for ectos.
you also get 240 tokens for the gift

there should be a system where we are getting new cooler finishers for past r80 ranks, like before april was r60´s r70´s.
Something like better rewards, cooler finishers, etc.

- Buf fixes & Balance changes in general.

There was an ele bunker meta, it was op, it got nerfed, then came the rangers with bm, got nerfed, then came the hambows and they have stayed for 8 months aproximately, along with condi supremacy.

Now with this patch you have to expect lot of power creep in the game.

Stronguest setups now are:
- Condi engi
- Bunker guardian
- Hambow/ other condi specs in war
- Decap engi
- Thieves do what they always did
- Rangers are as always good for 1v1 in spirits, but not as good as before.
- Ele´s are still bad for bunkering, but decent for burst.
- Necro´s you can see them power prec with lich form, or classic condi, both are viable, but best is condi now.
- Some DPS guardians specs still do good.

System changes?
No more glory.
PVP + PVE Skins mixed together.
Gold is the only currency.
Reward tracks for pvp.
New maps. Custom arenas.

etc..

Obviously true, top tier competitive players should be getting high revenue to compensate their effort/skill/experience.

It´s also disgusting how high rank players have little to no gold and 0 legendaries in 2 years of pvp, while pve heroes come pvp with their 5-6 legendaries and farm r55 in 2 months, then we´ve got nothing to show off we´ve been there since the beginning.

To be honest phoenix is way much cooler than this one.
Shark also is the best in animation.

Looking for r80 prestige system with new finisherS!

it sucks to see everyone getting dragon when others have worked hard for it.
It sucks to see r55+ players lose their excess rank points in order to get on the same boat that less dedicated players.
It sucks to be getting less rewards than pver´s and less ranked players.

Lord Hammer Hand.4815:

Nary Why Irk.8150:

Lord Hammer Hand.4815:

Ostricheggs.3742:

Lord Hammer Hand.4815:

and 1 of the most vocal here is in fact and proven skyhammer farmer.

I hope you’re not referring to me…

Also, another thing I just heard is that people are getting reimbursed dyes for the duplicate dyes they have on other chars… Second rate citizenship at its finest

not you of course i cant name him cause i got 2 warning already for makin fun of him.

14 Nary Why Irk.8150 Bombing Technology 1198 807 59,75% Bahía de Baruch [ES]

Make fun of what? Can´t see you up there on leaderboard

I dint say its you. why you so defensive? haha lol are you skyhammer farmer?

Yes I farm it often with my decap engi in hot joins, mostly everyday, and it´s very fun
Does that mean farming skyhammer you can´t be a top player?

Lord Hammer Hand.4815:

Ostricheggs.3742:

Lord Hammer Hand.4815:

and 1 of the most vocal here is in fact and proven skyhammer farmer.

I hope you’re not referring to me…

Also, another thing I just heard is that people are getting reimbursed dyes for the duplicate dyes they have on other chars… Second rate citizenship at its finest

not you of course i cant name him cause i got 2 warning already for makin fun of him.

14 Nary Why Irk.8150 Bombing Technology 1198 807 59,75% Bahía de Baruch [ES]

Make fun of what? Can´t see you up there on leaderboard

Aza.2105:

bhagwad.4281:

Aza.2105:

Static.9841:

Aza.2105:

Sense of progression? Why should that be needed for pvp?? Progression has nothing to do with engaging in combat with others, the only progression pvp needs is the individual getting better at the game, realizing their strengths and weaknesses in relation to their competition.

The only thing the ranking system does at this time is:

• Shows who cheated with the skyhammer exploit

• Shows who played the game much longer than others

None of the two are relative to a individual being skilled at the game or not. One cheated and one has more time to put into the game than another person. Both circumstances are irrelevant when it comes to pvp.

Because people like to have goals to work for, it’s the same reason why people like to unlock titles and others are achievement hunters, it just happens that they want it to be a part of PvP and why not?

Because all of them are irrelevant and are byproducts of players with a pve mindset who come to pvp. Because for them achievements, titles and other unlocks give a sense of self entitlement. All of which have nothing to do with pvp. Essentially you are asking for the wrong type of progression because you do not grasp the nature of what it is to be able to progress in a pvp setting.

A example of a pvp style progression would be Hall of Heroes from gw1. You fought your way up a ladder until you reached the final rung. The measurement of ones progression comes in form of how far you made it up the rung. If you failed to get past round 1 of the tournament then one understands they and their team have work to do.

If they make it to round two, they understand that they have gotten a lot better since they can no consistently make it to the second round. If they make it to the final round but lose they now know they have what it takes to possibly win the entire hoh. If one beats a popular team who constantly wins the tournament then they will know they have come a long way.

Pvp should be about the measurement of ones skill, communication, synergy and the ability to work as a responsible team mate with others. Not a repetitive grinding of numerical elements.

This is a PvP game within an MMO. Keep that in mind. If you just want pure PvP, it would be better to play a MOBA instead. An MMO’s halmark is nice heavy grind with lots of time put into it. Sure, reward skill if you want no one is stopping you.

But also have progression based on other parameters. Since the latter does not affect the former in any way, I fail to see the downside.

What you are saying makes more sense for wvw since its directly related to pve. With Spvp it makes little sense.

Then why did some people say, like Grouch, that pvp rank is like pve rank? then we should not get our rank points removed after r55. It is a real punish to the loyal playerbase that has been holding this pvp so far 2 years.

On a side note, let users keep posting their suggestions in order to rework the rank system in a reasonable way

Solo Q leaderboard as of today.

1 gaodino.5097 Drago Punk Warri 65 53 55,08% Plaza de Vizunah [FR]
2 desde 2/4/14 18:26 CET Nacht Fuchs.3762 Nacht Fuchs 223 149 59,95% Ribera [DE]
3 Xion.3509 Mini Xion 602 383 61,12% Kodash [DE]
4 HPLT.7132 Wîk 196 136 59,04% Desolación
5 Nary Why Irk.8150 Bombing Technology 1198 807 59,75% Bahía de Baruch [ES]

I kind of tried to make them see this difference for a few days and stated why r55 shouldn´t be the top, but it doesn´t seem that they listen to that argument.

infantrydiv.1620:

Nary Why Irk.8150:

infantrydiv.1620:

Uhtameit.2413:

infantrydiv.1620:

I think everyone knows that Nary Why Irk is a skyhammer farmer already who wants to be rewarded for jumping down into a hole after spamming AoE a thousand times in a row.

He should actually be banned for a few weeks and have his rank reset to 1 for admitting to match manipulation.

When did he admit to match manipulation?

Also no, you don’t get banned for reporting someone if the report is based on some evidence.

In the above quoted posts he admits to skyhammer farming which is a form of match manipulation for sure.

If you have any proof or evidence please submit it to exploits@arena.net

Good evidence would be the quotes of you saying you farmed skyhammer, and the fact that you have a tiny amount of games played compared to other rank 70s.

Also, what does you playing decap engi have to do with you farming skyhammer? A high rank on the solo queue boards means what, exactly? That you abuse a broken build to take advantage of people who can’t counter comp you?

You’re a decap engi skyhammer farmer. LOL

Going ahead with your assumption, everyone would be top 10 on solo q leaderboards by playing a broken build.

So there must be a difference between the effectivity of some players playing a broken build, and some others playing the same broken build

Uhtameit.2413:

I’ve seen the way you “play” in hotjoin, I don’t have to edit anything at all you make up for your obvious lack of skill with decap engi at r69, it’s a tad sad. Enjoy it while you can.

I’m sure you will still be very high on soloQ LB after the decap engi nerfs.

Wouldn´t that mean then, that I´m able to adapt to the metagame and still play on the highest tier level?

Uhtameit.2413:

Oooooooh, you’re Bombing Technology?

Okay then, you are a decap engi who spends all his time switching from Skyhammer in hotjoin to Skyhammer in another server in hotjoin once the map is over. Why would anyone do that, right?

Simple, he uses all the stability and cc at his disposal (from memory, I’d say Bomb Kit, Tool Kit, Rifle, Flamethrower, and the elite elixir) to push/pull everyone into the breakable windows of Skyhammer. That is not match manipulation BUT at least we know that all his claims of being a dedicated player are pure lies

Check my position on solo Q leaderboards, then you can happily edit your post
<3

infantrydiv.1620:

Uhtameit.2413:

infantrydiv.1620:

I think everyone knows that Nary Why Irk is a skyhammer farmer already who wants to be rewarded for jumping down into a hole after spamming AoE a thousand times in a row.

He should actually be banned for a few weeks and have his rank reset to 1 for admitting to match manipulation.

When did he admit to match manipulation?

Also no, you don’t get banned for reporting someone if the report is based on some evidence.

In the above quoted posts he admits to skyhammer farming which is a form of match manipulation for sure.

If you have any proof or evidence please submit it to exploits@arena.net

Smiley.5376:

Evan Lesh.3295:

Long term goals aren’t a bad thing. Even after the re-balance, it will take the average player a very long time to reach 80 and will still be the long term goal for most people.

It’s important to have goals for different time commitments. Short term goal could be reward tracks or some skins. Medium term goals could be season rewards and a ladder. Long terms goals could be a legendary, rank 80 (for most people) or possibly multi-season rewards and yearly tournaments.

What kind of long-term rewards would people like to see? Maybe a rank 80 ‘prestige’ system is something to explore.

First and foremost, thank you for creating these megaservers. I had proposed such a thing in the past and i’m SO happy this is finally happening !

Secondly as an anwser to your question:

Short version:
-Achievments
-Visible Ranks
-Prestiged ranks with unique finishers and titles
-Make the champion titles tiered; 150-300-600-1000
-Capes rewarded through a combination of prestige, tournaments wins, and X times in a ladder position

Achievments

Add more achievments. If you want unification of PvP and PvE, you need to make earning AP equal through PvP and PvE, or at least give us more opportunities to earn more AP, since AP Chests give unique rewards.

Killing blows, stomps, revives, captures, healing done, combofields, raw dmg, condi dmg, crits, wins by gamemode, achievments tied to unique map mechanics(differs through gamemodes), the list goes on…

This could acutally only truly be implemented if you apply the megaserver system on pvp hotjoin if you are going to keep hotjoin. Until then you could limit AP gained to official servers. Or if you throw hotjoin away and replace it with unranked queue with the megaserver system that would be even better.

On a side not you should then also add more rewards tied to achievment points. The current rewards aren’t that mind-blowing

Make ranks visible ingame.

This will allow people to show off their efforts even when they’re not playing. You should be able to show your WvW rank too and choose which one you want to show

Prestige leveling

Every 10 levels after 80(same exp as 10 time 70-71 or 79-80 or simply the same as 70-80), you gain the prestige version of the original finisher you earned every 10 levels from 1-80 in the same order. This version could be in Silver or Gold(or another “prestige” color). When you earned everything again(8x prestige) you get a special unique finisher only attainable for the most dedicated gamers. Maybe winning special 3-monthly-tournaments gets you 5 free lvls or so ?

Every 10 levels also awards you with a new title

Every 10 levels you gain you gain some kind of number/sign next to your visible ranks that shows you have “prestiged”(gained another 10 levels after 80)

Titles

Add depth to the champion titles. 150 wins with one profession in a ranked match is not much. Make it something like 150-300-600-1000. I’m not good at finding titles^^ So instead of 1, you have 4 titles same goes for the title that you get for having 100 wins with every profession

If you are going to evolve to a system with tournaments hold automaticly ingame(inscribe through an ingame ladder system), add titles that have to do with ladder wins

Capes

The ultimate achievment, accessible for dedicated players, lower tier not exclusive to the best. A cape that shows your domination in all aspects of PvP. Involves a combination of multiple hard achievments.

These could be also be “progressive” and “improved” at each tier, example of tiers:

-300-600-1000 tournament wins with one profession
-prestige 3- prestige 6- prestige 10
-1x top 10-50(any number) ladder-3x top 10-50(any number) ladder-7x top 10-50(any number)

Tier 1 would be bronze, tier 2 would be silver and tier 3 would be gold TRIMMED. with a small glow on the timming. Make it so that you can put your guild emblem on the cape. Or another immage with possibility to customize the background

Trust me ANET, If you add this to the reward tracks, or simply make it a priority next to game modes, a lot of people would go through the roof

Be sure to not shove balance away with rewards or goals. Balance should always be priority n1 and NEVER masked with rewards/goals

Truly yours,

El Smiley

Thank you for your hard work and creativity to make this suggestion.
This is a great way to deal with progression in pvp.

Hopefully anet is reading this one post.

infantrydiv.1620:

I think everyone knows that Nary Why Irk is a skyhammer farmer already who wants to be rewarded for jumping down into a hole after spamming AoE a thousand times in a row.

He should actually be banned for a few weeks and have his rank reset to 1 for admitting to match manipulation.

1 gaodino.5097 Drago Punk Warri 65 53 55,08% Plaza de Vizunah [FR]
2 Nacht Fuchs.3762 Nacht Fuchs 223 149 59,95% Ribera [DE]
3 Xion.3509 Mini Xion 602 383 61,12% Kodash [DE]
4 HPLT.7132 Wîk 196 136 59,04% Desolación
5 Nary Why Irk.8150 Bombing Technology 1198 807 59,75% Bahía de Baruch [ES]

<3

infantrydiv.1620:

I think everyone knows that Nary Why Irk is a skyhammer farmer already who wants to be rewarded for jumping down into a hole after spamming AoE a thousand times in a row.

He should actually be banned for a few weeks and have his rank reset to 1 for admitting to match manipulation.

You could get banned as well for asking for bans.

Evan Lesh.3295:

Long term goals aren’t a bad thing. Even after the re-balance, it will take the average player a very long time to reach 80 and will still be the long term goal for most people.

It’s important to have goals for different time commitments. Short term goal could be reward tracks or some skins. Medium term goals could be season rewards and a ladder. Long terms goals could be a legendary, rank 80 (for most people) or possibly multi-season rewards and yearly tournaments.

What kind of long-term rewards would people like to see? Maybe a rank 80 ‘prestige’ system is something to explore.

I´m all up for the rank 80 prestige system.
You can offer different coloured dragon finishers. Surround the finisher with an special aura or some special effects & particles.
Here you´ve got a good spot for creativity.

You could try making the advanced tiers dragons with different animations, colours. Endure their animations, hell you can even work towards a double dragon finisher or a dragon + phoenix finisher mixed together.

Lord Hammer Hand.4815:

Nary Why Irk.8150:

Lord Hammer Hand.4815:

Nary Why Irk.8150:

Lord Hammer Hand.4815:

honestly this is probably the 6 or 7 times this guy made a thread of the same thing. and its always the same QQ. you mention that jealousy is the reason most players approve the rank balance changes. just you know that rank55+ players are not the only one affected by this patch. present and future pvper who can now achieve the highest rank available are happy with the changes. and all you can think about is why rank 55+ will get to be dragons. i have friends who are rank 70+ and ill be happy for them to be first batch of dragons but not to others expense, thats so selfish of you. i have no problem if anet gives them special titles or special finisher. most dont support you coz i think they are not narrow minded like you.

Get out of here. You have nothing interesting nor constructive to offer. Just criticism.
We are trying to solve how to properly offer reward and progression for the most dedicated players.

your the one who needs to GTFO, if you read his OP you know hes asking why a lot of players seems to oppose a long term goal, when in fact even with the balance changes to rank its still a long term goal to others. but wait i mention others and not the rank 70+ players who QQing about how their prestige is being taken away. this thread is not about being constructed. i know what he want and what you want. the OP is criticism to other who doesnt share his oppinion. and even go as far thinking others are just jealous? of what a 3d render in a video game? some people will get jealous if you have a nice job, family, gf/bf, car, house etc. but video game really? some people need to get out more rather than play video games.

Lol so much angryness in here.
I hope you were able to unload all that shiz and feel better at your teen´s bedroom.

lol sorry to say but i think the only one angry here is you, coz rank 55+ players will be dragons. /bow

I´ve got other interests in life now, otherwise I would be playing the game, instead writing posts in the forum (it takes less time).

I believe that r55 is a mistake, but anyway, whatever they decide to rework I can success on it, so no problem. Will be funny to see everyone spamming dragons in the mists

Lord Hammer Hand.4815:

Nary Why Irk.8150:

Lord Hammer Hand.4815:

honestly this is probably the 6 or 7 times this guy made a thread of the same thing. and its always the same QQ. you mention that jealousy is the reason most players approve the rank balance changes. just you know that rank55+ players are not the only one affected by this patch. present and future pvper who can now achieve the highest rank available are happy with the changes. and all you can think about is why rank 55+ will get to be dragons. i have friends who are rank 70+ and ill be happy for them to be first batch of dragons but not to others expense, thats so selfish of you. i have no problem if anet gives them special titles or special finisher. most dont support you coz i think they are not narrow minded like you.

Get out of here. You have nothing interesting nor constructive to offer. Just criticism.
We are trying to solve how to properly offer reward and progression for the most dedicated players.

your the one who needs to GTFO, if you read his OP you know hes asking why a lot of players seems to oppose a long term goal, when in fact even with the balance changes to rank its still a long term goal to others. but wait i mention others and not the rank 70+ players who QQing about how their prestige is being taken away. this thread is not about being constructed. i know what he want and what you want. the OP is criticism to other who doesnt share his oppinion. and even go as far thinking others are just jealous? of what a 3d render in a video game? some people will get jealous if you have a nice job, family, gf/bf, car, house etc. but video game really? some people need to get out more rather than play video games.

Lol so much angryness in here.
I hope you were able to unload all that shiz and feel better at your teen´s bedroom.

kitten really wanted to screw you with some pic, but that´s fine.

Hey guys, go love each other since you are all that kitten . Get a room and make trio. Peace

Lord Hammer Hand.4815:

honestly this is probably the 6 or 7 times this guy made a thread of the same thing. and its always the same QQ. you mention that jealousy is the reason most players approve the rank balance changes. just you know that rank55+ players are not the only one affected by this patch. present and future pvper who can now achieve the highest rank available are happy with the changes. and all you can think about is why rank 55+ will get to be dragons. i have friends who are rank 70+ and ill be happy for them to be first batch of dragons but not to others expense, thats so selfish of you. i have no problem if anet gives them special titles or special finisher. most dont support you coz i think they are not narrow minded like you.

Get out of here. You have nothing interesting nor constructive to offer. Just criticism.
We are trying to solve how to properly offer reward and progression for the most dedicated players.

bhagwad.4281:

Nary Why Irk.8150:

Evan Lesh.3295:

Long term goals aren’t a bad thing. Even after the re-balance, it will take the average player a very long time to reach 80 and will still be the long term goal for most people.

It’s important to have goals for different time commitments. Short term goal could be reward tracks or some skins. Medium term goals could be season rewards and a ladder. Long terms goals could be a legendary, rank 80 (for most people) or possibly multi-season rewards and yearly tournaments.

What kind of long-term rewards would people like to see? Maybe a rank 80 ‘prestige’ system is something to explore.

The problem with the rank 80 prestige system is that dragon finisher has already been given.

Is there anything more epic than the dragon in guild wars 2? I don´t think so.

It’s about perception. People will get prestige from that which is most difficult to attain. I think titles or finishers will easily fit the bill.

I agree with you, but aesthetically, a dragon is the most epic and beautiful thing that could be developed on finisher, or at least, it is just the symbol of something strong, big and epic.

the sober ninja.6539:

Evan Lesh.3295:

Long term goals aren’t a bad thing. Even after the re-balance, it will take the average player a very long time to reach 80 and will still be the long term goal for most people.

It’s important to have goals for different time commitments. Short term goal could be reward tracks or some skins. Medium term goals could be season rewards and a ladder. Long terms goals could be a legendary, rank 80 (for most people) or possibly multi-season rewards and yearly tournaments.

What kind of long-term rewards would people like to see? Maybe a rank 80 ‘prestige’ system is something to explore.

There’s been a lot of controversy surrounding the rank finisher lately. I think that something that might make the community happy is to add new finishers @ certain ranks past 80 (maybe @ r150 or r200), and make them super long term goals. Perhaps a balthazar finisher or a grenth finisher, or maybe a dragon finisher— but with the GW dragons (like Glint or Zhaitan or something). Whatever it is, it has to be epic if we’re to be expected to put lots of time in to unlock it.

I´m up for some Glint / Zhaitan finisher, but it really has to be more amazing and epic than the actual dragon, thing right now I doubt considerably.

Evan Lesh.3295:

Long term goals aren’t a bad thing. Even after the re-balance, it will take the average player a very long time to reach 80 and will still be the long term goal for most people.

It’s important to have goals for different time commitments. Short term goal could be reward tracks or some skins. Medium term goals could be season rewards and a ladder. Long terms goals could be a legendary, rank 80 (for most people) or possibly multi-season rewards and yearly tournaments.

What kind of long-term rewards would people like to see? Maybe a rank 80 ‘prestige’ system is something to explore.

The problem with the rank 80 prestige system is that dragon finisher has already been given.

Is there anything more epic than the dragon in guild wars 2? I don´t think so.

RoRo.8270:

bhagwad.4281:

Lord Hammer Hand.4815:

funny how some rank 70+ players conflict each other what they want. those 2 to 4 rank 70+ players screaming that only them should reach rank 80 will get no support besides from them. and those who are thinking of other way they can be compensated have my support instead of this same people who are arguing and conflicting each other. i agree to what marvin, jose, and ostrich have said they need to be compesated more like extra chest and maybe unique titles or finisher. (seriously not all players cares bout how few other have extra cosmetic) but those who says rank 70+ players only one who will reach rank 80 should realize its for the good of many not just few. stop being selfish and greedy

I’m r52 and I agree with the r70+ players. Because you know what? I care about things like “fairness” and “justice”. That could have been me facing the prospect of wasted thousands of hours.

Fairness might be an alien concept to you, but it’s not to most of us.

You’re talking about fairness and justice? Hotjoin heroes like yourself have gained much more rank points than players that solely play tournaments so please spare me with your fairness and justice crap

That´s untrue. We´ve been receiving chests with 1.000 rank points / win every tournament won for more than 6 months. We´ve been getting in solo/team Q much more rank than hot join players.

Static.9841:

And you got owned

bok, bok.

You won nothing here, nor in real life.
I´ll keep supporting our proposal until they make the patch live.
I´m pretty sure we´ll achieve something in the end.

Good luck, Mr. Post.

Static.9841:

Blah blah blah “you don’t know what it was like man”.

Yeah, I do. Like I said previously which you saw so fit to gloss over, I’ve been in PvP since launch. GG turkey, GG.

You are a funny computer guy, haha.

Static.9841:

I’m just going to leave these here

RE dragon rank:

Nary Why Irk.8150:

+1, very mindfull. dragon rank is just no life.

RE Skyhammer farming:

Nary Why Irk.8150:

Evan Lesh.3295:

We are aware of this and are taking steps to mitigate this type of play.

Before you take too many steps.
Think for a momment, why a very high number of high ranked players (Included the winners of PAX) are doing this farm.

We are doing it, because at rank 50, it´s the only way to rank up at a decent path. This is not really players fault. It´s your system´s flaws and reward system who are forcing us to make this kind of farm.

If you give rank points for non skill things, instead a huge amount for winning a match, this is what happens.

Even if you try to nerf it, until this rank reward system changes, rank farmers will find another way.

Summaryzing, we don´t do it because it´s fun, no. It isn´t. We do it, because it would take insanely lot of time doing it “normal” at rank50/60, therefore if we want to have the next rank “some day” we should do this.

Well, now it’s clear what type of player you are, your skill and dedication to running in with AoE and dropping down a hole At least those casuals you so complain about will get their ranks using so much more skill than you did and actually playing the game as intended.

GG. Like the turkey, you’re done.

Look dude, before you talk about something you don´t know, please get informed.

Back in those times, getting rank was much harder and less rewarded than it is nowadays.

I actually had the big balls to tell arenanet they were wrong and they had to fix skyhammer. I´m pretty sure you are the kind of player that would get to there and say no word about it.

Getting to r69 needs still much more spot for tournament play and the difference between me and you, is that you can´t deny you are a scrub, while I know I´m a winner and I can support that with data, the fact is, I stand on the top 10 of solo q leaderboard, so who cares about what you are saying? You are completely wrong.

Feel free to contact me in game if you want to get done easily with your main class. Then you can come back to the forums and keep with your silly loss of time swimming in an ocean of posts

As I said, you can get the (Un)valuable diploma for your browsing efforts.
Something like this:

~~ University of NCSoft, Arenanet´s Diploma~~
~~ Master dedicated forum poster~~

Static.9841:

Nary Why Irk.8150:

You are getting boring to read man, those adjectives are not even fun anymore. Don´t be sad If I don´t answer you specifically at some point, it´s just you became boring.

You shouldn´t worry about me mate, whatever I want to achieve, I´ll success on it. To let you know, I stand on the top 10 mmr in solo Q europe, r55´s getting dragon is just a mistake by arenanet.

I´ll leave the title of master forum poster to you, haha.

No doubt it’s boring, when you fail to have any kind of counter-argument, basic comprehension or debating skills, you’re bound to lose interest.

It seems even in the other threads about the ranking with your flow of QQ you’re constantly being called out by higher ranking players for being an ignorant HJ/Skyhammer rank farmer. It’s becoming increasingly difficult to find any posts where a single person has agreed with you, seriously man, it’s like the Bermuda triangle out there, I’ll have a better chance at finding the lost Malaysian airliner than I will finding someone who has backed you up anywhere.

Trust me, I don’t worry about you one little bit It’s cute though how you like to pretend you don’t want so much attention but continually try to state your ranking in every thread you’ve posted in about rank. Attention seeking at its finest. Keep giving yourself all that positive reinforcement, lord knows, nobody else is giving it to you.

Again, congratulations on parroting back what was said to you. Forming our own words and ideas are hard man! Now go lie down and have a rest, your head must be hurting from all those attempts at thinking

You must be a pain at home.
Have fun in forums, at least here some read you

Static.9841:

Nary Why Irk.8150:

Static.9841:

Nary Why Irk.8150:

You can keep up with all those life-lessons and completely blow-up your mind as much as you want with your funny talk about following others, attitude and all that stuff that has nothing to do with our proposal.

You are getting way too repetitive with those assumptions about our proposal being above others and egotistical and all that stuff. All I can say is that I believe this makes you happy, other than that you sound like a complete silly individual posting dialy on forums losing a precious time on a lost cause.

You could possibly apply for an in game Nobel Prize about Videogaming attitudes, haha.

And the word of the day is irony.

You keep saying “our proposal” like anyone here has agreed with you. You also clearly don’t read very well, I didn’t say anything about anyone other than YOUR forced opinion that you seem to want to bring up on the forums any time rank is mentioned. Oh dear…

I don’t recall saying anyone other than you was egotistical, in fact I already stated I had respect for other R70 players. Whoops, there go your reading skills again

It’s quite clear you cannot comprehend words nor give anything close to an educated response so fallback on mindless drivel. You’re nothing but another forum warrior without anything of worth to say. You are clearly incapable of following any kind of debate or formulating any kind of counter-argument and I will no longer waste my time with you.

You should really start reading over other threads and you´ll realize I´m not either the first, nor the only one who has brought this proposal on the table.

I´m glad you finally realised you were wasting your time here, it´s the more wise word I´ve read from you so far. Hopefully that gives you insight for future posts.

You should really start learning to read….

The only insight is that anything that comes from your keyboard are the words of an ill-informed and ignorant forum troll. Enjoy your childish rage at R55s getting a banner you so covet as ‘prestige and fame’.

You are getting boring to read man, those adjectives are not even fun anymore. Don´t be sad If I don´t answer you specifically at some point, it´s just you became boring.

You shouldn´t worry about me mate, whatever I want to achieve, I´ll success on it. To let you know, I stand on the top 10 mmr in solo Q europe, r55´s getting dragon is just a mistake by arenanet.

I´ll leave the title of master forum poster to you, haha.

Static.9841:

Nary Why Irk.8150:

You can keep up with all those life-lessons and completely blow-up your mind as much as you want with your funny talk about following others, attitude and all that stuff that has nothing to do with our proposal.

You are getting way too repetitive with those assumptions about our proposal being above others and egotistical and all that stuff. All I can say is that I believe this makes you happy, other than that you sound like a complete silly individual posting dialy on forums losing a precious time on a lost cause.

You could possibly apply for an in game Nobel Prize about Videogaming attitudes, haha.

And the word of the day is irony.

You keep saying “our proposal” like anyone here has agreed with you. You also clearly don’t read very well, I didn’t say anything about anyone other than YOUR forced opinion that you seem to want to bring up on the forums any time rank is mentioned. Oh dear…

I don’t recall saying anyone other than you was egotistical, in fact I already stated I had respect for other R70 players. Whoops, there go your reading skills again

It’s quite clear you cannot comprehend words nor give anything close to an educated response so fallback on mindless drivel. You’re nothing but another forum warrior without anything of worth to say. You are clearly incapable of following any kind of debate or formulating any kind of counter-argument and I will no longer waste my time with you.

You should really start reading over other threads and you´ll realize I´m not either the first, nor the only one who has brought this proposal on the table.

I´m glad you finally realised you were wasting your time here, it´s the more wise word I´ve read from you so far. Hopefully that gives you insight for future posts.

Lord Hammer Hand.4815:

another one eh.. stop being greedy,a nd selfish if you still cling to your argument that rank 80 only goes to rank 70+ players you will not get a lot of support. but if your argument is how rank 70+ players need more compensation like more reward chest open reaching rank 80 then we have an agrreement.

It´s both of them.

1. R70´s should get as many (actually more) chests than <R70´s.
2. R70´s / upper r60´s should be the guys achieving dragon rank since they are the players on the top end frame of rank system.

You can support this or not, but it is a pretty reasonable suggestion others & I have brought to the table.

Static.9841:

Nary Why Irk.8150:

I have never said my opinion is the only viable one. As everything in life, there has many ways of addressing a problem (r55 becoming dragon), what others & I are stating is what we consider the best way to address the problem.
It´s also quite easy to cast an assumption, because if you were any of a top player existing in this game, I´d already know you, see?
Furthermore, if you were to be one of the players I´m talking about, evidently your opinion would be very different on what it is currently.

On the other hand, you are no more than a funny buffoon, and some conflictive kid who wants to spend his time on the forums on a daily basis to raise polemic. And I coudln´t care less about your concerns with me, everything you would state about me flies as the dust in the win.

I´m deeply comfident about my opinion. You are simply wasting your time thinking you´ll achieve anything else.

Your constant stream of overstating the same opinion in your typical egotistical manner would be evidence otherwise of how you view your opinion above all others. This is further evidenced by your complete dismissal of anyone elses viewpoint coupled with the bizarre idea that they all must be newcomers.

So, your view is that were I a rank 70 player, my opinion would be different? Oh dear, you know nothing John Snow! I welcome PvP being revitalised over what banner I may obtain.

Ah so now you’ve run out of competent words, thought and ideas and wish to parrot back something I have said to you? golf clap.

I don’t know nor care who you are, this is purely because of your attitude and disrespectful behaviour. I do know and care about the opinions of other R70 players, the difference being is that because they have been very respectful any time I have interacted with them or played against them in a game, not to mention I’ve actually SEEN those people. Perhaps you should follow their suit. The real shame is that you might actually be a competent player, but nobody is going to care when you have such a poor attitude.

For the record, there’s a huge difference between confidence and ignorant delusion.

You can keep up with all those life-lessons and completely blow-up your mind as much as you want with your funny talk about following others, attitude and all that stuff that has nothing to do with our proposal.
You are getting way too repetitive with those assumptions about our proposal being above others and egotistical and all that stuff. All I can say is that I believe this makes you happy, other than that you sound like a complete silly individual posting dialy on forums losing a precious time on a lost cause.

You could possibly apply for an in game Nobel Prize about Videogaming attitudes, haha.

I have never said my opinion is the only viable one. As everything in life, there has many ways of addressing a problem (r55 becoming dragon), what others & I are stating is what we consider the best way to address the problem.
It´s also quite easy to cast an assumption, because if you were any of a top player existing in this game, I´d already know you, see?
Furthermore, if you were to be one of the players I´m talking about, evidently your opinion would be very different on what it is currently.

On the other hand, you are no more than a funny buffoon, and some conflictive kid who wants to spend his time on the forums on a daily basis to raise polemic. And I coudln´t care less about your concerns with me, everything you would state about me flies as the dust in the win.

I´m deeply comfident about my opinion. You are simply wasting your time thinking you´ll achieve anything else.

Static.9841:

Nary Why Irk.8150:

sirflamesword.3896:

Nary Why Irk.8150:

You do you have problems with reading comprehension.
The solution I´m proposing is pretty much clear: r70 being dragon.
Don´t read if your eyes bleed. These are forums, opinion is free to be expressed.
Furthermore, There are many topics asking the same than me: r70 being dragon. There are also players in game sharing this same thought.

And guess what? Arena-net is open to this kind of feedback.

You had more time to FARM than everyone else, that’s all rank70 means. If you haven’t been able to figure that out idk what to say.

I just hope Anet doesn’t listen to all the complainers(I do agree the high ranked players deserve something be it a title or more chests), but some of use can see the good in changing ranks like this. It will FINALLY give players that can’t devote their whole lives to pvp something to go for.

I feel sorry for you mate, but Dragon Rank shouldn´t be something every casual should get. It´s meant to be for the most dedicated players. It was that way back in guild wars 1, and it has to be that way here.

I don’t even…

How is rank 55 “Every casual player”? You think these people haven’t put time in as well? Just because the rank cost has lowered, doesn’t mean every casual player is going to get Dragon in a matter of weeks. You have no vision beyond your own skewed mindset.

You have some of the most hilariously misguided opinions I’ve read on these forums, you’re spouting elitism whilst offering nothing constructive. Anyone who has an opinion any different to yours are suddenly “not veterans” or “beginners” simply because you seem to think anyone of high rank automatically agrees with your painfully blinded mindset.

You want people to pay attention to you otherwise you wouldn’t constantly be posting your attention grabbing “Look at me, look at my opinion, the only one that matters EVAR” statements whilst telling everyone else that their opinion doesn’t mean jack. This speaks volumes to your character.

You think your rank equates to “fame and prestige”, sorry to break it to you, but other than “that really annoying guy on the forums”, nobody is going to care who you are…

I´m actually happier when nobody cares about me on a videogame, it is so good that I can play alone without being mentioned often, and getting congratulated and praised by random players giving me thanks for carrying them the game, is more than enough self-satisfaction to me. They already recognize in game my skills and give me thanks for my contribution.

You should really start reading more threads in order to see that my point is not only being raised here by me. Many other players share this thought.

And lastly, yes, r55 can be farmed in something like 3-4 weeks by playing intensively. You could even ask a pro gamer to pay him some money and get farmed your dragon in the next pvp system, since with actual rank points, r55 can be farmed easily within 2-3weeks playing constantly

Uhtameit.2413:

Nary Why Irk.8150:

Uhtameit.2413:

sirflamesword.3896:

Nary Why Irk.8150:

Practice makes you raise your skill, didnt you know?

So I feel like I’m talking to a brick wall, so I just going to stop. GG you won the arguement through lack of understanding.

He won the discussion I was having with him that way, too. He’s just that good.

Fluffball.8307:

What if current rank finishers were guardian-flame-blue (for example), and forever unattainable in that color after the update.

So a blue phoenix would be “worth” way more than a (what are they currently, yellow? I’m color blind) yellow dragon.

That is a very good idea that would probably satisfy the less self-centered of us. We just have to wait for Anet to comment. They probably will, at some point

Of course I won, what I´m stating is completely true and it´s impossible to be counter argued.

Yes it is, you are also a genius and I wish I could carry your children.

With that being said, the fact that you are unable to understand and/or answer most of the points sirflamesword.3896 and I raised does not mean you can’t be countered, it just means that you ignore the flaws in your reasoning or that you have a hard time making good use of your brain cells. Sadly you are too self-centered to even consider someone else’s point of view, no matter how wrong you might be

If that’s not clear enough : you’re just one big kiddo who’s spent the past two years on his computer and thinks he alone is entitled to rewards, while the other players – that may have actually played instead of living for the game like you did – shouldn’t get any rewards. If someone asks why, your answer is “because”. Because you’re selfish as hell and that’s not gonna succeed because it’s not constructive one bit.

In any case, I shall enjoy being a dragon by your side. See you in game, Dragon Darling !

Suddenly all the no-namers coming to the forums to ask for their dragon.
You can take it as you want, Í´m not the highest rank in the game, I´m just on the top frame, we do believe it is unrespectful to give the dragon to players who have dedicated way less time than us. And it definitely is, since we´ve showed more dedication to it than others.

As I said before, I don´t need your opinion since you haven´t played enough pvp or dedicated enough time in this game to be notorious and have a good measure of your words about which rank should be the dragon around.

If you weren´t an extremist and a bad reader, you would have noticed I´m not saying that lower ranked people shouldn´t be rewarded. They will and it is completely ok to reward them with chests and a higher rank, but definitely not suddenly the dragon rank.

And once again, wether someone spends more or less time of their life into this game, is ultimately only their will and choice. I´d advice you too to stop caring about what other people do with their free time. Stop kitten yourself with the selfish-ego reasoning, it is not the focus of this issue.

If you finally get a free dragon I will gladly crush you in game and make you feel embarrassed, so finally you´ll know why there is a difference between a r55 and a r70, though this game will have lost any prestige and lots of top players will have left.

Shaving r80 to r70 instead nerfing completely to r55 is quite a constructive thought, wether your tiny mind (or should I say, newcomer interests?) think it is not.

Uhtameit.2413:

sirflamesword.3896:

Nary Why Irk.8150:

Practice makes you raise your skill, didnt you know?

So I feel like I’m talking to a brick wall, so I just going to stop. GG you won the arguement through lack of understanding.

He won the discussion I was having with him that way, too. He’s just that good.

Fluffball.8307:

What if current rank finishers were guardian-flame-blue (for example), and forever unattainable in that color after the update.

So a blue phoenix would be “worth” way more than a (what are they currently, yellow? I’m color blind) yellow dragon.

That is a very good idea that would probably satisfy the less self-centered of us. We just have to wait for Anet to comment. They probably will, at some point

Of course I won, what I´m stating is completely true and it´s impossible to be counter argued.