Guild Wars 2

Zenith.7301:

Durzlla.6295:

Zenith.7301:

Durzlla.6295:

Zenith.7301:

Jackums.3496:

They need to make the longbow’s #1 fire rate faster or increase its damage or something. Honestly, the Mesmer’s greatsword is a better ranged weapon, and they’re not even advertised as a ranged class. That very fact alone should be a big, flashing sign saying, “Something about this is seriously kittened up.” Really, ANet? Really?

….the mesmer has only one melee weapon. The ranger has two.

The only reason mesmer greatsword works is because of the phantasm that does 6-7k damage after 0.25 seconds of being summoned and mesmer stealth allowing him to recreate distance.

Other than that, the mesmer’s greatsword autoattack is just as bad. It’s equally ranged cap, and it’s a long channel relative to other autoattacks like thief shortbow or warrior rifle.

The ranger longbow simply put has no attack that in the same short time windows of the warrior and mesmer does the kind of damage that a phantasmal berserker or Kill Shot does.

Rapid Fire is BAD. It’s bad damage for such a long channel.

Rapid fire can deal over 10k damage… So idk what you’re talking about with bad damage seeing as how you can pump that out from 2k range…

Then longbow #1 can crit for up to ~3.5k dmg, again from 2k distance, it’s a STRONG weapon, it just lacks in ways to reopen the gap/keep the gap open, sure there’s KB shot, but by the time you can use that it’s already lost a ton of damage from the range being closed…

10k damage in how many seconds? In Berserker gear as well, because in knight gear with 2.1k power it hits 6-7k at best.

Mesmer phantasm hits from the same long range, is aoe, and shatters also are ranged. Your arrow fires slowly at 3.5k in berserker gear max distance — the mesmer beam does the same amount, and it’s 3 hits so it’s even better for proccing crit effect sigils.

Longbow is garbage, obviously you haven’t played other classes if you think 10k on such a long channel is soooo good when you’re sitting in berserker gear and are made of toilet paper.

Hell, a warrior in knights rifle gear will crit on rifle for 11k easy.

Yes I hope to god that the rangers damage is below everyone else’s because we still have this amazing thing called A PET, and a shatter from 1.2k range? Really? That’s like the most obvious thing in the world and is sooooo easy to avoid, like kill shot.

I don’t think half of you realize how ranger works, you see that it doesn’t hit as hard per hit as a warrior and scream that we’re under powered.

PS: phantasms are easy to avoid and easy to kill unless the mes has high toughness, and for the damage you’re saying that’s CLEARLY not the case here.

And the pet isn’t obvious? Keep talking. The difference is that the pet is gone for 45 seconds in wvw and dungeons whereas the phantasm will be up in a third of that.

this guy durzella obviously haven’t played a mesmer or any other class than ranger lol. I do like 4x times more damage on my mesmer than with my ranger, i have condition gear on my mesmer and im not a condition build, my first plan was to be condition but later i change my mind so i need to buy new gear. Rangers are playable but once you try other classes you see how much they really suck, they lack damage, support and just everything.

lol an aoe nerf would make the already garbage longbow even more useless since barrage is the only nice skill worth. So i suppose if they do nerf aoe thay have to give something in return, huge. I wouldn’t be surprise is that pet and thief thing is a “bug” and they fix it later.

why does no one wants to play with me, party or invite me to groups and events?

i been playing ghost recon, MoH, already finished those now dead space 3 and TR next week. Haven’t even done dailies in GW2 in a few days, maybe is time for a break.

Stormleaf.1769:

After having played a hunter in WoW prior to GW2, I find it absolutely hilarious how both the class’s community and the developer response to it has been exactly the same between games.

lol i played wow and its first expansion, didn’t made it to its third expansion, i quit before it. Yea its have been living the same, like deja vu, Hunters back then had many issues, no one wanted them in arena teams and there was just a handful of hunter who could made it to 2k rating. They started implementing resilance? i think is the name, where pets dodge some AOE damage and stuff. I heard later than hunters were fine during lich king but i don’t know how it is now, haven’t played in ages.

It seems like rangers, hunters whatever always have the most trouble. Maybe is thanks to that we depends in an AI companion and well AI is not as smart as a human, there are always way to avoid it or dodge, predict it and more in GW2 were 40% or so of our damage comes from the pet.

all the advise i can give is reroll, you will thanks me later.

I have a mesmer and even with defensive rings and accesories and a condition armor (which i need to change cuz im not a condition mesmer lol) i do more damage with the auto attack than my ranger can do and lets not even start with the phantasm and other abilities. Utilities are so useful in wvw and bring so much to a party or wvw battle. Guardian wow, i am 72 with my guard and is amazing, i can take almost anything and not die, lot of utilities boons. I created a warrior for spvp and did 10 times better than with my ranger, lot of damage, way more. Rangers lol?

I also have full berserker gear mostly with 30 points on survival tree and weapons with vit/toughness but i survive very well during it, the only time i have died was when someone else wasn’t killing his mobs and they came to my side, so they were more than i could handle, happened 1 time only. What i do is use axe and hit all targets at the same time and with QZ they die even faster and you can have some time to help others with range, heal or whatever. Also like other people say entrangle would work great in this situation.

During cof path 1, the acolytes part i also survive very well, probably i am the last to die but i have never die there that i remember. I also nights ago protected Hoggins during AC path 1 and did very good (SB doesn’t hit borrows, i always get obstructed so im useless during that part)

people that say rangers are fine either haven’t play rangers or if they have is mostly farming and PvE. Pets don’t hit targets, die fast and aggro every mob because they dont stay close to you, in other words there useless. We have entire abilities and traits completely useless, have you seen any ranger using spirits? LOL, yea that is just to mention one and that is just the beginning.

recently bough a dagger from HoTW with vit/toughness and well is very good, i like the combo and i am currently power, prec, crit build with some vit and toughness but not much. The warhorn seems kinda better but having one more evasion with the dagger might be good depending on the situation.

Drakent.9605:

You guys that feel that pets are useless , problem is you not the pets.

lesson #
1) aslong you swap your pet at 50% health or less your CD swap will be 15 sec max instead of the 40 sec
2) if you know that you are in a heavy aoe figth use a range mob will avoid you losing your pet to quick
3) some pets can be use just for buff so you dont even need to send them to attack but just keep them next to you

1. i think this is very obvious, sometimes pets take some much damage in one hit you dont even have time to change but anyway i think every ranger tries to do this.

2. yea in dungeons might be fine but in wvw they still get owned easily. At least the times i have tried them

3. yea sounds great and in wvw is probably the best thing to do since pets die so fast. Problem is once you click F2 for the buff the pet goes to target and attacks it, doing the buff very far away from you causing you not to get buffed.

I love pet classes and all that but honestly in the state pets are right now, i prefer Anet just give us a lock to hide it forever and compensate the damage lose with some kind of buff. They are really useless in wvw and in every aspect of the game

In WvW yea LB might be good with barrage but that is all, i prefer the shortbow mobility to escape, evade attacks and as always the speed :P

You are exactly right, i have given longbow many chances, i even recently bough one from AC with tokens to try it again but i just cant use it at all. I love the mobility, evasion of the shortbow, the speed. Sadly the shortbow only damage heavy skill is 1 and i am a power, crit, prec build mostly, still love the SB anyday over LB. I am probably going to make my legendary shortbow

This was the first server i choose but had some friend in stormbluff Isle so i moved there, i am back in Sanctum of Rall and honestly this is the best server for WvW, the community is great and very orginized and dedicated. Yesterday i was with a few [Choo] guys and we defended TC keep (the keep almost on there spawn place, in EB) for hours

So i been using a mesmer for a while but my main is a ranger, i like mesmer but i am no expert. This is all PvE related, i was running with a phantasm build, you know 15/20/0/25/10 or something similar. My plan was to trying a build a phantasm build with GS/ sword pistol kinda hybrid so i can apply some bleeding with phantasm and do damage, just yesterday i got my exotic gear with power/prec/cond damage but then i tried Shattered Strengh and wow.

Shattered Strength is awesome as you all know and i hit so hard but problem is my gear, i think with crit damage i would hit so much hard. So i am running some kind of hybrid phantasm/bleed build with shattering lol 10/25/0/10/25 with empowered illusions, phantasmal fury, deceptive evasion, phantasmal haste and shattering strength. Is that viable, i seem to be doing alright but dont sure just want opinions

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fgIQNAR8KIROVI6QzA78OSFUtyMwtLE;TgAAzCooay0koJbTumkNB

my gear is power/prec/cond damage with superior rune of mesmer and accesories power/prec/toughness

like many have said this doesn’t solve all the issues and more work need to be done but IMO this was a good patch. Pets seem to be doing there job now and thanks to that i think my damage is a little higher, maybe its just me but i swear i am doing more damage. Now recently i started using one handed sword (axes are so boring to use) and i love the sword but the 1 skill rooting is a pain, that is one thing i hope they fix. More work need to be done, one handed sword, pet survivability, at least some trait on BM tree that makes pet like cats harder to kill, don’t know really well see.

I havent play since the halloween even and with this joke of an update it seems like is gonna stay that way, i have black ops 2 and many other games, GW2 is not worth the trouble anymore. I made the mistake on rolling a ranger, i should had choosen a warrior instead. Ill probably do this event and back to retirement, seems like this is the end for GW2

I have something also i am using over, a Mesmer. Lot more damage, fun and survivavility. Using my ranger only to farm ori nodes

JunkyardWolf.4126:

You know why WoW is successful? i have said it over the years, is because there [sic] support is awesome. They answer in forums and care, talk to the people. But the lack of support and communication is frustrating, especially when a class is so broken like rangers.

Apparently you’ve never tried getting a straight answer from the devs on the Hunter forums over there.

Not that it’s much better here…

well years ago they did replied, maybe not as fast as you would like but at least they did answer in important issues threads. Dont know now, dont play that in ages

Tynee.9427:

What did the group say to the ranger that asked to join them in a dungeon?

Ok maybe I edited the ranger part, but warrior comments are legit.

This might sound like a rare case or people messing around but 2 days ago (aprox) someone shouted looking for people to do a dungeon, i send the guy a whisper and i said invite, he ask me back: “what class are you” i said ranger, he replied nah thanks, i am looking for a warrior. True story, that was the first time i was denied a dungeon for been a ranger, i don’t blame them. Why bring someone that have almost 0 survivability, no support skills and awful damage when they can have a warrior with good armor, awesome support skills and ridiculous damage.

About pets problems dying fast, if i remember correctly WoW had the same problem and blizz implemented some kind of stat or whatever that pets avoided some portion of AoE damage so they survive in dungeons and raids. Maybe Anet should think in something like that, i swear all this is Burning Crusade (2007) all over again, at that time Hunters were the worse class probably in WoW (not sure now since i dont play since 08)

Well my mesmer is lvl 80 now and to my surprise doing dungeons with it is fun plus i feel i am doing better with the mesmer than my ranger (thats no surprise i suppose) and the thing is my mesmer is just in greens, my ranger have all exotics. I was not planning to spend much gold in the mesmer but i liked it so much that i am already making rings, buying weapons and stuff. Who knows, that can be my new main if things continue the way there going.

I made a Mesmer and although they have issues too they are fun to use at least, with lot less gear my mesmer do probably more damage than my ranger. Problem is probably ranger depends on pet damage and well we all know they are useless. I like my ranger but with all the recent SB nerf i dont know, i just dont feel it. I will try getting a longbow earlier and see if i can have fun once again

I mean seriously the only use i see for my ranger now is to go around and farm ori nodes, not much to do. What weapon do we use now? what choice do we have? The game is already dying for me, sad thing is they wont solve anything and everything will stay as it is or worse more nerfs coming to rangers and no fixes, like every other company out there, same story.

JonPeters apparently dont play a Ranger much lol Seriously spam skill 1? The others skills are for survival or to inflict a status like daze, stun not to do damage. Then my friend what do you suggest me using? Other than skill 2 there probably arent much use for the other skills in a dungeon (tho i do use them) for example i use skill 3 to evade but is not to do damage so therefore if i am not taking damage or have aggro i wont use it.

The changes are very noticeable, i just don’t feel SB the same. Like someone said is Blizzard all over again, same situation, no one wanted Hunters in arenas or PvP groups they were the worse, years passed until Blizzard kinda fixed some stuff and by the time i already stopped playing WoW do i dont know. Yesterday was the first time i was denied entering a group for dungeons because i was a Ranger, no joke lol. Now every weapon in the ranger Arsenal is garbage, even our pets. I wish i can exchange my ranger for a warrior with the same gear and everything i have accomplish

Wow i just read the patch notes and Mesmer got destroyed, iam level 70 with my mesmer and already had a hard time getting there and now is even worse. Between this and the nerf to drop rates this game is really starting to not look so enjoyable. Anyway no wonder why people dont want mesmers in groups, now even less

On PvE i am using a condition build with Shortbow/ axe warhorn and thinking of having a torch on the side for certain situation. I have tried most weapons and i IMO the best is the shortbow definitely, axe even tho is weak with a single target with AoE it shines, good AoE weapon.

Condition build even tho some people might thing is more for sPvP works alright in PvE.

By the way i have a question, which stats are better for a condition build? i have my rampegers exotic with condition damage but i am thinking of crafting rings, amulets etc with power, vitality and +crit. Should i do that, or still crafting amulets with power, prec and condition damage even tho i have low HP.

come on i need the TP so bad, need to buy a few things. Now i cant farm until the TP goes up because i don’t have good enough magic find. pssss

My Shark is called Tiburonsin, name that Dory gives to Bruce (big white shark) in finding nemo, the name is in spanish.

So those are bots? i saw people teleporting to target, disappearing and moving in weird patterns. I catch some videos of them. I hope the TP comes back up soon because i really need to buy something, i salvaged my old farming rare crafted gear and made the exotic one but i still need a few stuff. So now i don’t have a farming gear (magic find) with me until the TP comes up, need runes.

Most of the shortbows look so ugly, tiny and look like a cupid bow lol. But i liked so far the mystic crescent, looks alright and the size is good.

i dont know but i am having a hard time farming now, maybe is just me or my mind but i am not sure. I think i use to crit for around 580 to 600 and now is hardly crit for 500. I am not really sure, i hope i have some videos of earlier days but i don’t have proof. will definitely like official answers to this or someone with proof that is changes or stayed the same

mmm i was having a hard time farming today in cursed shore but i am not sure. I hope this is false, i have tried multiple weapons and i like non except the shortbow which is the one that does decent damage.

axes dont do enough damage, AoE is kinda fine but single target it takes forever to kill a mob plus axes skill are so boring to use IMO. Greatsword again skill are fun but the damage is laughable, longbow dont like it play style and in the end i do more damage with the SB. If they also going to nerf the SB, only good weapon we have then i suppose we will have to roll warriors or any other, they have everything we dont, support, damage, defense…

time to roll a warrior

agree, i hate using axes but i have no choice (i think) i am running a condition build and axes is kinda a most. I like using greatsword but GS with shortbow seems kinda weird lol, i haven’t seen a ranger using that combo.

Same happen with the longbow, most boring weapon to use, slow and lack of skills. Is just auto attack and the 2 skill, if mob get close 4 skill and repeat. Thats why i use SB.

Pets are tank alright, i use bears to tank in cursed shore and they do fine. Even sometimes DPS pets like cats or hawks can do good again 1v1, against multiple mobs well they cant handle it. Problem is in cursed shore those zombies dont hold the agro with pets but whatever is all good.

i dont know, i have try to use this combination and tho it sounds good i dont like it at all. Problem is when people get into melee range i dont like using bows, maybe is my mind or something but i cant.

One of the best if not the best MMO ever created, definitely loving each second of GW2, even people i know that are not PC or MMO gamers are interested in the game. I

yea i am having that issue as well.

I hate the longbow and believe me i tried but i cant use it, i tried using longbow in PvE since bleed max stack is 25 and during huge boss fight your damage will suffer but i couldn’t. SB is faster and does more damage, have more abilities, mobility i just love it more. Now that i am 80 i am shortbow/ axe horn

True, i have to smash F2 so many times is ridiculous, i hope they have a fix soon. I even stopped using that ability in most cases because it does more harm than good.