Guild Wars 2

Jalad Lantana.3027:

It’s been really fun fighting the crazed drakes and other condition spewing Southsun mobs recently on my Ranger.

Finally some mobs that make having condition removal measures worthwhile. While it is not easy, as you have to juggle your cool downs and be careful to know when it is time to bail and put some distance between you and the mob(s), it is fun.

It’s also kind of fun watching so many zerkers go splat when they run into these mobs.
“Outa my way, gona hundred blades/rage these drakes down before you know it,” plop.

so true, i always see so many people down during southsun events lol is crazy. Me, i am always prepare, i have toughness (1800) currently and condition removal, a mix of knights and some zerker.

i am kinda in the same boat, i never find something i find comfortable with. I have knights and some zerker gear, 30 in wilderness survival are non negotiable IMO the rest well i got skirmish, nature magic, i don’t like the power tree other than piercing arrows. On utilities i sometimes don’t know what to pick, i am not a fan of traps, even tho they are good but if i trait for them i hate ground targeting skills (i am too slow). Lightning Reflexes is ok for escaping, but offensively we don’t have much to choose from and the few like sharpening edges sucks.

BM is kinda good for open world PvE but for wvw zerg and that stuff lol, is a waste, the pet wont make it. I always google and read to see if i finally find my place, something i feel good with.

Chopps.5047:

Terkov.4138:

Over 1,5k h played on ranger, dungeon master done only with ranger, 33 fotm lvl on ranger. Noone ever said bad word about ranger in dungs to me, not to mention kicking or not inviting.

Congrats, I wish there was more of us out there.

well i gotta say even tho i dont do fracs, (i so hate LFG, waste of time lol) i am only at lvl 2, i have done all the dungeons with my ranger and most content. I think once some guys didn’t invite me to the party to do a dungeon because i was a ranger but just once

I hate elitist, they thing they are so good. I play with everyone nor care what class you are. During the last dungeon of flame and frost i got a group with some new people and we failed at last boss, he later send me a message saying sorry i suck (they didn’t even dodged or try to avoid the dmg lol) and apologizing i told not to worry, we all have been there at one time, we all didn’t had an idea of what to do when we started, i tried giving him tips tho he was a guardian and i don’t have experience with them.

Was funny because they died in the first seconds of the fight and i almost manage to kill the first boss stage on my own, got him to like 10%, i had to survive a lot to do all that damage lol.

i use SB/GS, different build tho

i want to go knights armor, currently have berzerker from and old build but crit dmg from armor is kinda a waste. Then hahave maybe 1 zerker amulet, some knights or cavalier depending on the crit chance

i don’t know, i love rangers but i just don’t seem to get it. I been trying to find a build that i feel happy with but cant (since release lol) for example days ago i hit 80 with my guardian and find a build i feel happy about and comfortable but i cant do that with ranger. I respec like 5 times a day. Only trait that i like is wilderness, nature magic mmm kinda useless, power meeh not much there other than piercing arrows, beastmaster well in wvw zergs pets dont last long plus there AI aint the best, trust pets with your damage when they are lacking might be a bad idea, tho i like BM on world PvE. I just dont know what to do, i have search multiples builds online, have tried so many things but nothing. Anyway lets see what people suggest, maybe i can get some ideas, IMO is always good to have some toughness, i see so much people always death in world events or die so easily, so Knights might be a good investment, at least thats what i am running mostly and planning to get more knights armor in the future.

here is mine, loved the quiver and the bow and got it without much effort. I dont do fracs, i am just lvl 2 because i dont like LFG and dont have anyone to do it with so this was a way to get it plus the bow skin is amazing, spend a few gold on gems but was worth it.

I am new to Guardians, just hit 80 yesterday and i have to say i am having a blast playing it, is so fun. Anyway my build is AH, my armor is soldiers with lyssa runes and weapons are knights, rings and accessories knights and i have 43% crit chance and 2k toughness. Still have to get an amulet (i have a lvl 70 amulet still) i am thinking of getting zerker amulet since i have good toughness already but i dont know, maybe cavaliers to get a lil more crit damage.

i was going to make a new thread but seen as this one is about flamethrower well i just post it here. I am new to engineer (lvl 55) i like the flamethrower, don’t like bomb kits , i hate ground targeting since i am so slow, anyway i dont know what to do when i reach 80. Should i get Knights gear and try to build a tanky flamethrower build (i have seen good ones around) or should i go more into conditions with prec/toughness/cond damage gear? I suppose if i go the condition way i should use pistols, knights with rifle. I like also the rifle CC and escape ability #4. Dont know what to do, my main focus would be wvw and pve, dungeons. What is more viable?

I have thing about it also but i still like the shortbow utility, tho skills 2 to 5 dont do much damage. Axe is boring to use IMO and longbow well you know. I have wanted to go GS/sword-whatever but in wvw how am i going to fight in zergs, i doubt i will have enough survivavility (even with lot of toughness) to go crazy and enter the frontlines

Manekk.6981:

Jericho.4598:

That’s the bane of this class is that we have hardly any condition removal. I rely on WS grandmaster trait and Healing Spring for my condition removal. The signet isn’t worth it though in my opinion.

I use to run Melandru runes with Poultry for 65% conditional removal time but I opted for this route.

EDIT: Haven’t tried Sigil of Generosity, I’ll have to test that out. As far as the SoR go I hate the cooldown on it. If it’s reworked somehow on the 30th I might consider it.

SoR is really strong on passive for removals actually together with generosity conditions aren’t a problem at all plus you have a stunbreaker than can also strip immobilize in one go should you need it you’ll be more vulnerable after of course but that is the game and atleast you won’t be totally naked since you still have generosity helping some, I swapped LR for SoR and also Bond for Barkskin and feel much stronger for it not to mention it’ll increase pet survivability tenfold, it’s definetly something you should atleast try.

I gotta SoR is really good, started using it recently and in combination with healing spring i almost never have a condition on me. Not the best condition removal but its good, better than nothing

link to the video, anyone have it?

i want to be able to use spirits, seem cool to be a nature ranger and all that but honestly in the state they are now is not possible.

Ill post it, that is my old berserker gear. It have T3 so getting rip of it is not an option lol. I was thinking maybe is a lot better to have power/prec/toughness gear, not like gear adds a lot of crit damage anyways, probably better with toughness.

My build is weird, just trying things up

Jon must be trolling us, with all the problems the class have and he come here to talk about rainbow jellyfish. LOL

Shard.4372:

Spirits are amazing in groups if you can keep them alive, otherwise it is just a waste. If you can use them right you can always have them out and with up to a 50% to apply their boon/condition. If you’re running solo the trait Spirits Unbound is a necessity.

keyword “alive”, in all my time of GW2 i haven’t seen a single spirit ranger lol, that is how bad spirits are.

Sebrent.3625:

You guys keep saying most of them don’t matter, but when I ask for what build(s) you’re running where those fixes don’t matter, I only hear crickets.

@Pedra: there was no cherry-picking. I used ctrl-F and searched for Ranger. If it affected a skill, I put it on the list. That is why it includes both buffs and nerfs and why I was more than happy to provide links to each of those pages in case people like you thought I did. Go ahead and look.

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You guys are presented a list with plenty of buffs, yet now all you say is “yeah, but they only buffed stuff that doesn’t matter”. Lets see what builds they don’t matter for.

Yea there have been a few buff but also nerf which have more impacts on play style than the buff we got. Plus other classes have got twice, triple or lot more buffs than rangers in the same period, so whats your point. Rangers are forgotten and to be honest the future doesn’t seem so bright for the class.

Sebrent.3625:

Yep, there was an abundance of huntards in WoW … but which class was so cool, unique, and powerful in skilled hands that they had their own weapon that required kiting powerful demons across hostile high level zones? :-)

yea until a rogue stun lock you to death, Hunters as rangers in gw2 were easy on PvE because the pet tanking. On PvP it was other story. at least during the burning crusade. There was just a selected few rangers with arena rating of 2k or more.

They were called huntards because easy mode on pve and people said the ones rolled hunters sucked that’s why they were bad at pvp but the true was the class was garbage. Seem like that is coming to GW2, now rangers are hard to master and like noobs roll it that’s why everyone is whining on forums but in “fact rangers are OP” and “good” according to some “leet players”. lol

jubskie.3152:

PinCushion.7390:

I don’t play a Ranger, but I lurk on your forums because the Necro forums are fairly dead most of the time and you guys have more videos.

I see what you did there XD

On topic, yes according to the general consensus, and no according to the people that actually took the time to understand and develop the ranger’s potential.

People are just being negative about a class that is deceptively complex. Its too hard for people that want straight up pewpew.

yea people said the same about hunters back in wow old days, that bad players rolled hunters because they were hardly on top of arena teams and pvp while other classes had an easy way to the top. Yet whining in forums and been negative bring lot of changes to the hunter like AoE dmg reduction to pets to name one. There is clearly something wrong with the class if all you see in WvW are elementalist, thief… ect. Not saying Rangers are unplayable but it does have issues, other classes do better than a ranger in any role mostly.

They all have rerolled, i am probably one of the only ones left that use one, not because is good just because rerolling another class meeeh, too much time and money.

RyuDragnier.9476:

NemesiS, can you knock somebody off a flame ram from on top of a tower/keep, and utterly destroy them from above with a Guardian and multiple AoE skills? Can you set down multiple abilities at chokepoints which will activate the second somebody touches them and hit multiple people at once, whittling down their ability to survive while the rest of the party destroys them? Can you throw down a healing field that lasts for 15 seconds and continually gets rid of conditions and grants regen to allies? Can you rez everybody downed nearby back up with a single skill? Can you wipe out most enemies 1v1 without problems?

Ranger can do all that, Guardian can’t. Face it, while Guardian is amazing in a group thanks to multiple buffs, by themselves they’re worthless in doing anything else in WvW.

can you please tell me how to knock down people in flames rams? what AoE skills you are talking about? because i don’t have any, lol Longbow i mean seriously who uses that?

A Guardian whining about Rangers and i tough i have seen it all. You definitely don’t play much Ranger do you?

RyuDragnier.9476:

Guardian…better? Sorry, I laughed at that. Unless you’re a bunker Guardian and set up for it, you WILL die fast in WvW as a Guardian.

everyone die fast in wvw if you dont have vit, toughness or whatever lol. Guardians bring so much to wvw, boons, heals and many other things, lets not even start with mesmers. Rangers? lol

what can Robert do? he is just a guy, the only one, in Anet that use a Ranger even tho recently he rerolled Thief (i don’t blame him). He doesn’t work in traits, class balance or any of that, he have said it.

GuildWarsPlayer.5608:

OGDeadHead.8326:

Yes it would. Rangers are the best class for solo leveling imho. For regular pve.

Cool. I’m going to set the Mesmer I was leveling down for a few and see how solo gameplay is with the Ranger.

Thanks for the replies.

The mesmer is hard to solo, specially the first levels, it gets better at 40 or more, even better at 80. Ranger tho are good solo, you can take almost any quest or mob without much problem since the pet take all the dmg, on solo PvE rangers doesn’t have many issues.

Sebrent.3625:

Looking at it, if you’re using the same gear as in my original post, but changed your traits to 0/25/30/15/0:

• Your crit chance is only 15.9% (very bad).
• Your crit damage is +25%
• You lose out on 114 power
• You lose out on +10% damage when endurance is full
• You lose out on +5% greatsword damage
• You lose out on +5% damage when you have a boon
• You lose out on 1,500 hp (and 7.5 power from vitality, lol)
• You lose out on +15% boon duration

Basically, you lost some boon duration, some hitpoints, power and +5 to +20% damage in exchange for +11.9% chance to crit (base crit chance is 4%) and +25% crit damage.

Looking at it like this, I’m not surprised that with your trait allocation that you aren’t hitting very hard with this gear.

well im not hitting as hard as before but is something. i have around 32% crit chance and with fury on swap that goes to 52% which isnt bad, crit dmg yea is around 50% or something, remember i havent made the full transition, still have zerker rings, amulets and all that. I miss 15% boon duration which is good and HP which is even better, i miss that.

i was 0/15/30/25/0 before, trying it with 25 on skirmish for a while. I suppose with rangers you cant be half zerker n half bunker or mix things. you either go full zerker o full defensive right?

if i change rings, amulets, accessories? which stats should i go for? healing power? power/prec/toughness? vit/toughness? (i have enough wvw marks so i can buy them just want to be sure what would be best before buying)

from a wvw view, i like the dmg and defense but if i go more defensive i don’t hit hard and well the pet is not much option in wvw so i cant count on its dmg. they die to fast you all know

My build currently is 0/25/30/15/0 kinda the same build with with more crit. Dmg is good and with fury on swap is ok but on the defense side i can do better. I have p/tough/vit gear with runes of the earth and im thinking of changing my zerker trinkets and rings for defensive one like p/prec/tough ( i have berzerker trinkets and rings because i was trait for that, changing slowly)

what should i do better? put the points in skirmish traits to nature magic or something, change my accessories, rings and all that n be more defensive? problem is with more defense my rangers doesn’t even do dmg much, is like im shooting blanks lol

Aridia.3042:

He’s on SoR?

I’ll have to log WvW more often then just to get a chance to kill him. :>

yea the whole office was there, i mean Anet devs. They were probably around 10 or more of them including our friend Jon. Was fun tho

Look who i found in wvw, is our friend! Lot of Anet doing wvw and non was ranger lol, obviously.

He said Hi!

was fighting one earlier in wvw, even those thief hit stupidly hard and ele are a pain the class i say hate most fighting is mesmer. They dont hit me as hard and we actually had a nice battle, i killed him once, he kill me more but still confuse me, is ridiculous.

Sebrent.3625:

Semil.8279:

Now you’ve made me worried.

If pets are made able to hit more reliably, our dps will increase on mobile targets.

Will ANet see this as a reason to decrease the damage the ranger does to compensate?

Seeing as how a thief can burst down a tank, I doubt it.
Only the non-tanky pets are doing the mean damage and that’s only like 2k to 4k depending on traits, utilities, and your target’s toughness.

i come from wvw when a thief just 2 shot me lol, havent seen anything like it since WoW old days. I mean all classes bring something but with a ranger i shoot and shoot and hit people and the HP doesn’t come down. The class just doesn’t bring anything to the table, i regret the day i spend all my gold, laurels and everything gearing my ranger.

i wouldn’t keep my hopes up much guys, they been saying the same since november or before and rangers just get worse with every patch, i am even scare of patch days now. Earning so much gold to buy cultural armor, exotics, this that and all is a waste of time because the class doesn’t deliver.

lol high damage? reroll

is not a bad weapon, do lot of dmg but sadly is weird to use. I been using GS recently and is easier, more fluid to use. Doesn’t hit as hard but i think is alright, worth it if you don’t want to deal with sword issues.

i was and still have most of my gear berserker but to be honest the damage just wasn’t there, i did more dmg with my mesmer geared to be more defensive than with my ranger. I have tried almost any build with rangers and still don’t find something i feel comfortable with. Recently i am trying 0/15/30/25/0, i have around 45% crit and with the fury boon on weapon swap i almost always have more than 60% so that is good, im running shortbow and greatsword. I survive very good n to be honest the dmg is not that bad at all. So far im liking it, plus since i know i need fury and boons it encourage me to change weapons constantly, because mostly all i did was pew pew lol. Now is more fun to play a ranger, liking it so far

only positive about rangers is node and underwater farming lol, they suck at anything else.

Do the smart thing and reroll warrior or any other class. Rangers are useless, broken beyond repair, do it before you get to 80, spend hundreds of gold in gear and everything for the ranger and later find out it is garbage, no one wants you in groups and you dont bring anything to groups. Do the smart thing and roll a warrior, they are better with ranged weapons than ranger, well any other class is better than rangers.

i got one laurel item (thanksfully wont buy the second one which i have the laurels for) i spend 120 gold in T3 armor plus all the mats to create berserker gear and for this. Now what i am going to do? What if i try another build and gear and next patch is another nerf and start all over again?

and i just reset my traits for a beastmaster build thanks to the QZ nerf and now even cats got nerfed lol. Thanks god i didn’t buy any gear and was just testing how it goes. What i am going to do with my ranger, WHAT?

i tried QZ now with my ranger LMAO, if this is no reason to reroll or quit i dont know what is. It feels so slow now, my whole build is garbage now. what to do?

i just tried QZ lol, wow what a piece of garbage, seriously. It doesn’t even feel fast at all, way slower than before. I cant believe this, now i am stuck with a useless class and lot of gold in gear, reason enough to not reroll.

Aridia.3042:

NemesiS.6749:

ookie.5972:

Yes….. very smart move add stun break to pure offensive skill…. Where’s logic? I say.

they probably were at anet like, ok we going to nerf hard QZ but to keep them happy lets add a stun break, they wont even notice it. They probably thing we are stupid or something

You give these people too much credit. Just like the people that think governments are smart or competent enough to orchestrate huge conspiracies.

No, it’s not a trick; they’re that clueless about their own game. No one who’s played this class for more than an hour would implement these changes.

i gave them the benefit of the doubt because i cant believe we the players know more about the game and ranger class that the own people that design, created and build this game. I just refuse to believe that…

ookie.5972:

Yes….. very smart move add stun break to pure offensive skill…. Where’s logic? I say.

they probably were at anet like, ok we going to nerf hard QZ but to keep them happy lets add a stun break, they wont even notice it. They probably thing we are stupid or something

it wouldn’t surprise me if we got more nerfed. Is like they don’t want anyone to play ranger lol. Sadly all my gear and good stuff is with my ranger, rerolling after months and month of earning all that, wow

problem is i have my ranger with all the best gear, 120 gold norn armor and everything. Rerolling would hurt so much but playing a ranger is more painful than fun, not worth the trouble. Usually patches are to improve the game and all that but with anet it have been disappointment since the beginning, it was better they let the game like it was at release.

sadly the ranger class is already dead and today they put the final nail in the coffin. You just need to try other classes and see how much rangers suck. Looking at this trend, all we get is nerfs, no fixes, no buff, no nothing. You either reroll warrior or any of those amazing powerful classes or quit the game, simple.

the question is what will i use now? Everything with rangers is either broken or nerfed to death, what is a good build to run now.

i asking myself the same question. My berserker gear is probably garbage now, dont know what else to do with my ranger, i have tried everything

I would love to have a 80 warrior but sadly my warrior is lvl 1 lol, i wish Anet could help me there, delete my ranger and give me a 80 warrior with equal gear to my ranger. I can only dream

you know is time to reroll when you are having more trouble than fun. My mesmer do more damage with GS auto attack than my ranger with all the skills combined, and my mesmer have condition gear lol. Now with the QZ nerf it will probably be a lot worse.

Honestly there is no reason to play ranger, its been far too long and no significant update to rangers, only nerfs.