I have been waiting deliberately for my decision to support the company with a gem purchase ever since HoT. Because I really had faith.
I mean, I really love the story or the meta events… But if the price is having my main class destroyed after being a fan of the archetype for 11 years – 50€ was not worth it.
I really believed in Irenio. But I guess this is pretty much it.I’m curious how long will it take them to realize how many people they’ve already lost to other games. I remember WoW had a time during cata where 93% of cancelled or “suddenly” inactive accounts were all hunter mains. I’m just thinking ANet is going to compete.
hunters started to suck in wow again? lol i played wow during burning crusade and core game where hunters were called kittens and there were like 2-3 like most that made it to 2k+ rating arena team, the class sucked. I always play bow character in games and pets, i like them but seem like they mostly lack. Then frozen throne or whatever came, i stopped playing but i heard hunters were buffed nicely, the class was better. Havent played since
I still play my ranger, i mean i do like it and is the class i know better but i feel really incapacitated if you can say it that way. Is like all of a sudden you lose your hands or legs, everything will change, the class just feel handicapped.
an anet white knight, nice. Defending what is indefensible
And if you look at the patch notes since HoT (of at least the documented changes).. one thing stands out:
Ranger/Druid has been the most nerfed class since Oct 23rd.
since Oct 23 2012?
doesnt matter, they havent reply on reddit, they wont reply or read there own forums. its been 3 years kitten and you people dont learn that they dont care about you, customers, rangers or at this points about there game at all, at least seem like it. If they actually played and tested druids they would know this ruin the whole class but they are clueless. Whatever i am kinda done with all this, seem like all they care and use this game for at this point is as a cash cow, to sell as much gems as possible to get revenue. As someone said every update that comes they mess up something even more, fractals messed up, dungeons screwd, wvw and the new borderlands lol, druids completely useless and broken now, just to mention a few things. LIke someone said in a comment previous now everytime there is a new patch i get scare they will mess up even more (at this point i don’t think they can mess it up even more but i am not rotting for them).
Camelot Unchained can’t come soon enough. At least that will give the WvW players something to do. PvE – I’d suggest just go back to WoW and be done with it. GW2 had huge potential but somewhere along the long totally lost focus.
heard lot of good stuff about that game and specially the wvw part which is the thing i liked most when i heard first of GW2 when it was going to release, sadly we all know how that turned out to be and the state it currently is. Yea GW2 is a great game, had potential but sadly i dunno if its the dev and there ineptitude or what but meeeh sometimes is a pain.
yea i dont think is worth it, better go full dps or condi i suppose is also a thing. I saw a nice guardian raid build that do this better, thay have protection, good heals, aegis plus the toughness. Also there are revenants which also can be better at that, tanking that is. So yea i dont think ranger is suited for that job, you would be just a liability, not tanky enough to survive, no boon removal, not great break bars counter but neither enough damage or support as other classes so.
He simply don’t care much about Rangers and thus communication with us…each class gets much more attention and bold changes, but not Rangers…look at Dragonhunters, they are much more superior than Ranger and much more interesting to play…kitten , even their skills(vfx) looks more impressive.
Nothing will change beacause Anet is satisfied with how Irenio treat Rangers.
anyone that have been around since GW2 release and coming to ranger forums know that no dev play ranger. They all played warriors back in the glory days, they are probably playing now dragon kittens since they are OP as hell and no nerf for them. But anyway if you have been coming for some time you know the only dev that played ranger and came to the forums got fired long ago lol so…
Do you even know a single person that bases their gaming purchases on metacritic?
you would be surprise, lot of people look out for reviews online and such for there purchase. Even 1-2 customers that anet lose is a big deal. Look for example how simcity and all the bad reviews on amazon caused panic in EA. There were other cases were bad reviews caused big effects on sales i suppose. I often buy games like fallout 4 without seen reviews because i know bethesta will deliver almost 99.9 percent guaranteed lol but for others i dont know much about i do look.
me for example, i bough the expansion for the druid, i bough it a week later after release. Seen all those druids around and stuff and me not been able to roll druid made me buy it and believe even tho i am in bad economic shape i took those 50 dollars and buy the expansion. This horrendous nerf make druid almost unplayable if not fully, so what should i do now if i don’t enjoy it? So i can understand the guy, some people just want to play a ranger/druid, i have other classes but meeeh, revenant is the one i like probably second to ranger but still i want to play my ranger, this change, i dont even know what to do because it just feel wrong. So like i said i can understand the guy that wrote that low review, for him it might make the game unplayable.
nah, they deserve this and more, hope the ratings tank. The only reason GW2 still popular is because there isnt much competition to be honest. Games like archage to mention one became/is P2W, others like FF14 have a monthly subscription, not that is bad but some people don’t like the subs, same with WoW (plus is old as f… who plays that in 2015 lol) so the only option around is GW2. That an ESO but i dunno much about it, i suppose it didn’t live up to its hype since i don’t hear much from it so.
Honestly? I don’t even bother with avatar anymore. I’ve turned into a selfish healer. Number One in my book is me and my pet. If others get healing, indirectly, good for them.
My survivability and healing ability goes down, even in full cleric’s gear, if I switch to avatar form . . . and that’s beyond ridiculous.
The combination of Guard regeneration, Troll Unguent, Solar Beam, and Wisp does it better and more consistently.
Hope admitting that doesn’t get those abilities nerfed.
i rly do hope TU dont get nerfed or something hahaha. This is bad, i honestly dont know what to do with my ranger/druid. Either scrap druid completely and return to old builds or what.
Rofl! This last change is so stupid I can’t believe it. Now all it takes to get AF up before going out is a few good damaging jumps from high places. What a truly awesome mechanic you have accomplished Anet. Really, best design decision ever! Lol!
What a joke.
well to give them credit anet is not too smart or good at any design, fixes or in general how the game/ranger works. Remember when they nerfed to hell the shortbow because all people did was press 11111111111111 lol. So to give them credit this AF debacle have not been the worse they have done (i suppose, tho this is really bad). They make good music for example, well the composers and music people does but design is not there strong suit.
Rangers/Druids in GW2 will NEVER improve. I feel compelled to make that assertion based on the evidence of the last >3 years.
“We recognise that the Ranger in particular has problems so there will be a lot of work done on this profession and the Druid going forward”.
HoT was released a month ago and we’ve seen nothing but nerfs, alongside almost zero communication from Irenio. Compounding my severe disappointment at the elite spec is also the grind, monotony and boredom of HoT content.
To summarise the Ranger profession: false promises, nerfs, no hope.
I’m off to play Fallout 4.
you know i haven’t touched fallout in the last 2-3 days since they kinda made AF better with signet of the wild, regen and all that, i liked playing i had more build options other than TU. Well it all went to kitten, i suppose like you said back to fallout 4.
Already seeing it in my fairly friendly guild. A secret core “raid” group going in for a few nights in a row, not asking anyone else if they want to come. Seen this repeated in all the guilds I’m a member of.
Thank God they don;t actually drop gear with higher stats is all I can say.
is like that in every game, i am not much of a raider but i remember back in wow (the old wow) groups like that formed, is like a guild between a guild, an exclusive group that only few can go. Then my question is why have a guild at all then, just make a guild with those friends and go
I would be ok with a CD equivalent to elite skills (60-120s) IF they get rid of AF
But also the duration on par with the same elite skills
at this point it would probably be a lot better with some kind of cooldown. That BS seriously doesn’t regen at all unless you are almost dead
druid in raid: Guys!!! don’t dodge and facetank everything, make sure you get hit a lot at the beginning so when we get in trouble i can save our kitten
as weird at that sound, i was doing AB meta just now lol, this AF BS is bad, but anyway i actually wanted to get hit to regenerate some AF. This class now should be named the masochist because that is how it feels, the more you get hit and the hardest the more healz.
Ouch yeah cleric druids were probably hurt most, all that tough to mitigate damage = less self heal = less CAF generation…
I crafted Zealot Ascended… Not sure how I feel yet ahaha
logged an hour ago thinking of changing my ascended stats but zealot insignias recipes are expensive and mats, i even had the gw2 build edit page up looking how it was going to look. Thanks god i came to the forums and saw all this threats. Druid is ruined, it feels so bad
@NemesiS.6749 so wich nemesis you are cause you re not online currently ^^
and yes i saw it. was pretty impressive, especially those classes can put down there heals without any wind up time. do they need to generate something to use skills? no of course not and lets face it the heal a druid provide without CAF is just a joke.
i currently have 215heal on my staff 1 463 heal on my staff 2 and 3000 on staff 3 and my glyph. thats like. 4 skills, one an auto attack people even need to stand in your beam to heal. tempest wash away the pain does the same heal those skills do combined without investing any stats into heal. thats not even funny
there is a guy in the forums, i have seen some post that have a similar name lol. i am online but haven’t move my ranger, just here in the forums posting.
so what are we supposed to do in raids now? bossfight starts. the boss deals a kittenload of dmg and you cant heal them up because you cant generate af untill someone is allready diing??? like for real. wasnt druid supposed to be the new heal class? we re just plain useless now
You’re suppose to reroll to a Ele.
didnt you saw woodenpotatoes video of the raid? His elementalist was healing like a boss with amazing damage. This changed all to fast now elementalist are the new healers, druids will be joining thief in not been welcome much in raids. Well even thief can go venom share i suppose and break bars good. At this point, i dunno might be wrong, is better to be just an old dps/spotter/spirit old build than a druid
So, in summary, Roy did it to us again.
Lets keep it constructive alright? Im fairly serious about coming up with ideas for this. I don’t want this to get derailed if I can avoid it.
what ideas? its been 3.5 years of the same. When have they taken an idea from the forums or even come here to answer some question and clarify everything. Thats it why no dev come and say why they change it, or just answer question and peoples worries.
Lol builds that actually built around support recharge slower.
and i was just thinking getting that expensive zealot set, which seem to be the hot new thing, just some minutes ago in game when i came to the forums and saw this changes. Thanks god i didnt buy anything. Even still this change ruin druid in so many levels is not fun to play, not viable not anything.
i mean…seariously ! i totally agree and i’m exactly in the same case , was runnin core ranger LB/GS druid for extra survivalheal+mobility , which wasnt OP btw and a frost spotter + druid in pve to help allies but now… what do we have to do , sue anet because i paid an extension and cannot even play the new content ??? ridiculous
i am the same, this make everything completely useless. If anet had some kind of return money policy like steam or something i would definitely would want my money back. This make everything just bad, druid is useless now unless u go staff and full healing bot everybody.
You know i think we deserve it, we are like the abused women syndrome or whatever. She get abused by her husband but she dont leave him, she think he will change or that is “love”. Same goes with anet and rangers, from the beginnings it was always nerfs and nerfs and more nerfs and everytime we fall for it thinking things will get better. Same that have been happening for 3 years, never change, one step forward in the good direction then 10 backwards.
So sneaky, I was actually back on my Druid again after been torn between my Herald and Him. I love my ranger, with 1000+hours played. But, …
nevermind, Im to sad to write.
i was actually also enjoying the ranger once again when they changed AF some days ago, i changed to shouts and beastmaster since they could regen AF and there was more options. This is bad, this stuff doesn’t even regenerate at all lol, the only reason i see to use druid with DPS gear is for the 33% speed/movement trait lol. Unless you go full healer rout or something i dont see druid now been useful, i am no expert and could be wrong but i seen videos of elementalist (wooden potatoes actually) healing like crazy in the raid all while doing better damage so what is the point.
Anyway another example, open world PvE. Dragon stand to name one, i stay in the back, i rarely get damaged from ranger so now how will i regen AF if i dont get damage? i could use like AF like 2-3 times now in the 2 hour event, then what is the point of druid, would be better just using old builds with BM.
This is the worse nerf/change to rangers since the shortbow nerf back years ago which broke build, weapons and everything.I do hope this is some kind of sick joke, bug or something.
what? why. WTH is going on with anet, with the previous change i started using things other than troll urgent, there were many options and builds to regen AF and now this? this make the whole class almost completely useless, the druid at least.
i recently tried my ranger/druid in wvw, i was busy with magumma and the little wvw i did was on my revenant. Anyway i liked the staff, i think it need some small work like skill 3 putting you in combat, skill 4 take ages to cast but is a nice weapon, skill 3 mobility is great. Problem is i feel like so wrong playing with 2 ranged weapons (staff/longbow) i feel like i need some melee option but i love the staff support, i feel like i matter lol.
One question tho in open world, dungeons, fractals would it be ok if i use staff/longbow? i mean i don’t want to be that ranger that sucks or get kicked out of groups lol. I have a GS, Sword and all that but i hate changing all the time armor and such. When i make a build i try to make it pve and wvw good.
i didnt know weakness could do that, seem like a nice condition. I was looking at that trait but never really understood weakness. If they cant crit you and reduce damage seem like good for survival
you know this is weird but i always tough the same, not with thief tho but my main and first character is a ranger and i always believed i have the worse drop rate with him. Like seriously i never get anything good with him not even exotics lol.
reading the threat, those superior runes of thorns sound like they could be good. I didnt knew those existed. There are lot of options
I have a sinister, condi thief with D/D and shortbow and yea trying to unlock daredevil to use it fully but well i use Krait runes. I am no thief expert tho, is not even my main, i mostly use it because i made the dreamer and well thief are probably the best with shortbow. Need to show that legendary lol
yep, i use the action cam and i love it but yea is bad with sword. I have a sword in my bag in case i need it but i equip it to try it and it was awful with the action cam
The map is beautiful no doubt about it just not good for WvW, i played some today and its bad, too big, confusing, empty and even tho i didn’t saw that but by the comments i have read there is some magic laser that helps the team which have more people in the map and the advantage in numbers already, seriously? who tough that.
This is bad for wvw, sadly, i consider myself a wvw player. WvW is what interested me most in GW2, is sad to see it go down like this, boring and empty. The idea of wvw, server in battle with other servers is amazing on paper but sadly anet have turn it into some raid content (pve) i really dont know what there end goal is.
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seem like a good idea, i always hated the idea of having 3 different borderlands, 1 for each server. The maps were huge and now even more with the new one, 3 seem to be a little to much. I played WvW today again finally and honestly is in a bad state, all i did in those new maps were run around, empty, its just feel wrong.
In case it isn’t clear, venom share does not require you to stay in range of allies for it to work. You can share and then run off somewhere else and they still get the venoms. It could use a radius buff, but it’s not too bad.
Choice between venoms or traps/caltrops or something else entirely comes down to playstyle. If you run with a minion master and share venoms with him, you can get 30 stacks of poison on a single target. If you’re alone, that same skill is 6 stacks. Traps and caltrops are beter for area control while venoms are better for bursting and supporting your allies.
Switch critical strikes for trickery. Sinister is not going to 100-0 someone with a backstab crit. It just gives good supplemental damage to your very strong conditions.
Swap the signet. Shortbow gives plenty of mobility, and you’re missing out on many other useful utilities. Shadowstep is a stunbreak, condi clear and mobility, SR is great reset tool, and there are other good choices. If you decide on venomshare, you may consider ambush trap and thieves guild if you’re roaming solo, in which case improv could be an alternative to potent poison.
D/D with a glassy sinister build is risky. DD can pull it off with lotus training and tons of dodges, but you may be better off with P/D. It has the benefit of having a powerful hybrid stealth attack, while backstab doesn’t apply conditions and death blossom does little direct damage. P/D can also apply torment and the range and constant stealthing for sneak attack will help you stay alive.
Necros and venom share thieves have so much synergy its ridiculous, me and a necro were getting zerged by packs ob mobs during some event in VB. The necro used that minion shout as well as summoning Flesh Golem before entering RS. I cast Spider and Basi Venom, the 2 vets break bars disappeared followed by the mobs dropping like flies left and right….
Never going back to using a zerker thief xD Currently running dire armors, sinister weps, and am working on sinister accessories
one question why dire armor with sinister trinkets and weapons? i mean i dont think a few sinister pieces will give you enough precision to make a difference on crit. i dont know lol, like i said i suck a thief. How much precision is needed? I have a dire set also but using sinister now, when i made my thief i desided he was going to be the condition guy because my other characters were direct dmg. That was long ago, with the change to conditions i suppose make everything better.
yea i tried the same build but with trickery instead, caltrops and dodges and i survived more in bosses for example. Tho with venom share i did a lot more damage with the poison stacking, some serious condi damage, but i love dodges and those kind of skills (my fav ranger skill is lightning reflexes so lol) so i dont know i suppose i can swap between build of find a happy medium take the signet out for the poison or something.
Also you are right, SB #5 ability is equal or greater than 25% speed, when i wasnt using the signet sometimes i passed people running with speed buff of some kind, i just hate feeling so slow but yea i suppose i need that utility skill more than 25% speed.
I am no thief expert, is not my main character and recently i use it because well long ago i made the dreamer legendary and the thief is probably one of the best that use the SB. Anyway i was using this venom share build
It is good and all but i feel like the venom’s take the space of important utilities needed for survival and also i cant live without the 25% movement signet, it makes traveling faster. Also i read that venom aura radius is not big (i didn’t knew) so is not as useful probably as i thought.
Recently i made a change instead of Shadow Arts to use Trickery which is also have some conditions, reduce cooldowns on tricks and all that. Seem like it better with skills like withdraw, roll for initiative and also remove conditions on use so that is good. Is it viable? which is better? is sinister even good for a thief? (well kinda too late i already geared up lol)
- still don’t have the expansion, so daredevil is a no.
why did you remove the video?
The sad thing is its probably to late to change anything, they already designs and created the map i dont think they will rework it much, that would mean months if not years of work. Sadly i think we are stuck with EOTM 2.0 RIP WvW and GW2
by the way is the WvW on Elder scroll online any good? seem like that is going to be the only option, go to ESO
you guys are seriously scaring me, i haven’t pre-order yet the expansion but WvW is all that interest me in GW, is all i play mostly. But for what i have read in the comments this is just EOTM 2.0 why? why doesn’t anet learn from there mistakes, we don’t want PvE into WvW, we don’t want bosses. I hope wvw becomes better but for what i have read this will mark the end of it and is probably to late to change anything so that is what we will get EOTM 2.0 and karma trains. Sad
That is my build, i previously was 6/6/0/0/2 but changed for some nore defense and i am liking it. I mostly do wvw zerg and that is the intention of the build mostly because i heard Engi suck in dungeons so not going to even waste money on gearing it full zerk. Anyway is this build good?
I like the FT but i didn’t seem to be using it much, if i get close to melee range in zergs i die. So instead i changed to rocket boots.
Also if i do decide to use my engi on dungeon, what should i do? what is my role. Any videos of how to zerg or dungeon with engis would be nice
lets be realistic tho, in 3 years almost they didnt release much, took them this long for an expansion announcement. Dont expect more specializations with time, my bet it will be just 1, nothing more. My fear is everyone will just go with specializations and the old class will be useless, no idea how they will work.
its been almost 3 years, an expansion most come. If is not an xpac announcement this game is not having much life anymore, might be its last year. For how long will people still be playing the same dungeons, with the same skills and all that.
yea i gotta admit the boss fights have been a lot of fun since the Marionette and all those changes like circles marking thr aoe area and such. Now they need to implement that in 10 men raids (dungeons) or such lol, maybe for the expansion that is rumored hopefully.
I really wish anet, the dev, company or whoever have the word talk to us with no BS and tell us what is there plan for GW2 and its future. Should we wait for an expansion? for huge content (not that living work piece of crap) new skills, abilities, classes, continents and all that? or should we wait for GW3? At this point i think GW3 is more possible than an expansion to be honest. Really dont know what anet plan is, is a shame, GW2 had potential but it die down.
Is sad, the game is honestly is going to the point of no return. The game have gotten extremely boring to the point i don’t even have logged in for hallowen at all or have done the monthly. I love GW2 mechanics and such but its already going to be 3 years and still nothing new, even F2P games release big patches and stuff. Honestly at this rate the game will die soon i mean even wvw have been the same for 3 years and dungeons with no new rewards even. GW2 is lucky there really aren’t much options out there free, Archage was looking good but it turned out to be P2W and even to use the AH you need to pay.
Archeage release is really really soon
Archeage is very pay to win sadly, i still probably going to play it but meeh i dont know, the labor system really is bad. I hope i find a good guild so i can borrow there farm land lol, i heard it gets better if you have a friend that pays, problem is i have non.
yea call me crazy but yesterday on my Ranger i was defending a keep and no one was hitting me, i almost died due to retaliation. Hit me very hard, i was using barrage but still almost died.
If you want to run build like this, Power Necro 2-shots you, D/p thief doesn’t give a flying kitten and much more.
Seriously guys, stop posting how LB Ranger does damage when you build for straight no survivability and pop every long cooldown you have for one spike.
Power necros don’t 2 shot you…you have 20k health with guard stacks, 3 seconds of stealth every 9 seconds (thats 33% of the time i can be hidden) a 1200m knockback, an aoe cripple and did you miss the part i said i played this setup all night? i know exactley what it does.
On Pikken square wvw last night there were 4 rangers running in a group and you couldn’t even get close to them. Im guessing they were calling targets and insta gib, no matter what class.
If you seriously dont think that all the kiddies will flock to ranger now ‘I SNIEP UR kitten’
then by all means continue to defend it.
I watched some youtube vids posted here a few weeks ago by a nicely skilled Ranger killing warriors. It made me smile because a lot of easy moders flocked to warrior after their buffs and Warriors were widely considered OP (and ranger u/p)
Ask yourself would you watch a video of a LB ranger now roaming in WvW?
well no because anyone can do it effectively.
actually they do, i was watching a streaming the other day and the necro 2 shot some thief, she was like wtf is this a hack. Really powerful, his HP just went down, didnt even had time to react. Ranger is not even close to that kind of damage, dont know what is all the drama about
stopped reading at 1500m lol, obvious troll. What really changes is people use to ignore rangers in the back of the zerg because they didnt cause much trouble, now they do, is simple just go for the rangers, they still have bad survivability and if they are using longbow they will die ridiculously fast to conditions or even damage so, you just cant ignore us anymore.
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Also i don’t know if is just me or maybe the zerg we were fighting was really good lol but i was getting hit so hard with retaliation i believe? because i was not been hit by any players. So even tho the longbow got strong, there are many more ways to counter it