Brilliant series all round and grats about the shoutcasting. Looking forward to your next videos and hopefully get to see Dec 10 changes in effect for classes . Don’t play much.
If I ran a site or podcast yourself and yishi’s would be my top interviews or hosts.
Well the idea is pretty good, particularly for the tar phase, however, as you need to be hit before the block start working, you’ll likely be immobile code half the duration anyways, making it impractical for most runs.
If you were planning on absorbing the shamans arrow, as everybody knows now I guess I can speak freely, this is a great idea, works similar to mossman, but you need to make sure you go invulnerable after it arrives(presuming higher levels). The shaman targets you when he faces you, make sure to look at his movements, and when he faces you, get ready to expect him to move his hands to his bow.
lol this guy?
I didn’t realise youtube.com was a secret society, now I feel as special as you!
Yeah the reveal and armor was all featured in PCGAMER. Like someone else said im sure I saw it in other concept art too. Maybe it will make it into the game one day…something along the lines of “class cultural armor”.
I have a couple focii that I use. One is full zerker, one is 2/3 partial zerker and 1/3 full zerker, and the last is 1/4 zerker, 1/4 celly, and 1/2 soldy. Hope this helps.
Yup as soon as I saw this yesterday I was like “that’s goin on the mesmer for sure”. Also need the pink quaggan backpack. My Bruce Lee I’m hard human male mesmer gonna look Great.
It would be nice to see signet of inspiration apply a random boon aswell as swiftness each and every time but since this hasn’t been mentioned I cant see it happening in the near future.
As for armor runes who knows. Many people feel that they might get nerfed in the future. For the time being on my WvW gear I’ve just stuck with speed. I’ve not long started maining Mesmer so have yet to find “my” build" and that’s part of the reason for the speed runes tbh.
Noty angry. Just presenting facts. they wouldn’t be so insistent to fix this if they didn’t think it was a serious problem. abuse is abuse. it’s a strong word to use for something that you think isn’t a big deal.
Nope, you said game breaking. Proven wrong yet again but you your reply is “just stating facts”. Fact: you said gand breaking not abuse".
Your signature pretty much tells us all we need to know.
Stealthers aren’t this hated in other games because once they commit to a fight they can’t disappear mid fight. It’s clearly not a minority who hates this. Anet has the facts, and they wouldn’t respond to a minority. I for one, trust anet to do what’s right for the health of the game. They have data, we don’t.
This is absolutely and horrendously incorrect. I’ve developed hundreds of equations to describe a host of various aspects of the game, and in doing so I’ve been both criticized and completely rejected by a number of players who perhaps don’t think that their “amazing skillz” can be changed into numbers. And yet, here we have a case where it is in fact ANet with the numbers, and it’s credible? Certainly, throughout my studies of this game, no one has refuted my calculations, but I’ve received little credit for those whereas ANet is being hailed by people like you as some kind of truth-telling prophet. The truth of the matter is, when you truly understand what the kitten you’re doing when you play this game, it’s really not all that difficult to delve deeper into the mechanics and derive the usefulness of certain skills, utilities, and stats. So please, understand what you’re talking about before making broad, sweeping claims like that.
They wrote the code and they receive player feedback. I am sorry, but i trust them far more than I do inherently biased players.
Really? I’m willing to bet the people who wrote the code are off writhing more code for the next project. Even with the manpower requirements of mmorpgs a skeleton crew is still left behind. You can tell from arenanet responses, messages hell even the games content that this more than evident here.
To change skills almost completely over a year after launch shows one of two things (maybe both). That the team working now is almost completely different or inexperienced with developing this type of title.
Next you’ll be telling me Floyd mayweather prints his own t shirts down at the factory. It appears it’s you who has no idea what he is talking about. The original back end development team working for gems?! Lol.
Answer this, what was better Halloween 2012 or 2013? Then ask yourself why.
Neither. I don’t do pve.
Well although you may be able to li… your post history tells the truth. lol your smart “im too cool for pve” backfired. Do fractals much?
I couldn’t tell you how many bad people continue to pew pew me through DStorm. It’s 99% rangers, but I get the odd warrior and engi to do it too.
I MEAN THE WHOLE kitten CHANNEL (if they don’t down first).
You would also think that their dodge button is disabled until you meet that 1 ranger out of 100 who you can’t even touch with all the weapon evades + dodges.
Ye I’ve fought a couple of them on eb and I actually admire them, they are screwed if you end up with help and switch to shortbow but gotta give it to em.
Auto attack disabled learning the ranger sword is quite a curv. Good evades if you can time it right which alot of those guys can do. Kudos to em.
Stealthers aren’t this hated in other games because once they commit to a fight they can’t disappear mid fight. It’s clearly not a minority who hates this. Anet has the facts, and they wouldn’t respond to a minority. I for one, trust anet to do what’s right for the health of the game. They have data, we don’t.
This is absolutely and horrendously incorrect. I’ve developed hundreds of equations to describe a host of various aspects of the game, and in doing so I’ve been both criticized and completely rejected by a number of players who perhaps don’t think that their “amazing skillz” can be changed into numbers. And yet, here we have a case where it is in fact ANet with the numbers, and it’s credible? Certainly, throughout my studies of this game, no one has refuted my calculations, but I’ve received little credit for those whereas ANet is being hailed by people like you as some kind of truth-telling prophet. The truth of the matter is, when you truly understand what the kitten you’re doing when you play this game, it’s really not all that difficult to delve deeper into the mechanics and derive the usefulness of certain skills, utilities, and stats. So please, understand what you’re talking about before making broad, sweeping claims like that.
They wrote the code and they receive player feedback. I am sorry, but i trust them far more than I do inherently biased players.
Really? I’m willing to bet the people who wrote the code are off writhing more code for the next project. Even with the manpower requirements of mmorpgs a skeleton crew is still left behind. You can tell from arenanet responses, messages hell even the games content that this more than evident here.
To change skills almost completely over a year after launch shows one of two things (maybe both). That the team working now is almost completely different or inexperienced with developing this type of title.
Next you’ll be telling me Floyd mayweather prints his own t shirts down at the factory. It appears it’s you who has no idea what he is talking about. The original back end development team working for gems?! Lol.
Answer this, what was better Halloween 2012 or 2013? Then ask yourself why.
My warrior is undergeared and still does more damage than my thief who has a constant 2300 power and equal crit damage.
My warrior also has 3k more HP than my thief however my thief is in full valk with full wurm runes while my warrior is in pure berzerker gear and 30 in tactics.
Just want everyone to know.
this is pretty good, full valk + wurm runes? this tells me your also running a suboptimal build and you wonder why your warrior outdamages your thief… try running a proper build with full berserkers + scholar runes and youll easily double a max buffed warriors damage
He could be talking about wvw though. Full zerker thieves are the ones standing around LA waiting for fractal pugs. Seriously tho it might be the ‘optimal’ armor stats for pve but for web not so much.
Its one of my favorite things to do ingame…putting a backstab into another thief to find he’s full zerker. Watching it kitten itself as the Hunter becomes the hunted, live it.
P.s my favorite is doing the same to a staff ele in zerker. /Laugh
I saw one if the best spvp thiefs playing warrior the other day was surprised.
But thiefs get hit one way or another each latch, I’m out if this game until they actually do fair balances. Enjoy the condi spam meta
Sad but true. I’m waiting for my eso beta invite then it’s another 30gigs free on my ssd.
i can’t really say anything because of certain circumstances other than….you’ll be as disappointed in elder scrolls as you were with gw2
wildstar on the other hand is lookin pretty legit
Yeah im not really feeling eso, I didnt check out much on wildstar though.
Yeah ive heard a bit about wildstar but after jordo posted I checked out some videos. Has a similar telegraph system that’s in place in gw2 but also has the trinity of tanks,healer,dps etc.
I did notice one of the classes (maybe race not sure) had dual claws and was using a stealth into high damage ability so there is a rogue class.
One thing ive learned from playing thief in gw2 is simply not to “main” a class for quite some time in order to feel out these “balance” patches that modern mmo developers love. Wildstar or eso which ever I end up playing im gonna be paranoid lol.
I saw one if the best spvp thiefs playing warrior the other day was surprised.
But thiefs get hit one way or another each latch, I’m out if this game until they actually do fair balances. Enjoy the condi spam meta
Sad but true. I’m waiting for my eso beta invite then it’s another 30gigs free on my ssd.
Your all right about the silent minority. Like I said alot of the thief community have rerolled or will reroll nightblade come the time.
Atleast the pve monkeys that venture into wvw for achievements (u know the guys who pay anets employee salary by buying mini cute animals and fluffy costumes) will be happy.
You will have fun in wvw regardless if you wanna roam or zerg up. I recommend starting with d/d and shortbow. As for pve s/p is decent for all trash encounters and d/d is good for the stacks on bosses.
I wouldn’t worry too much about nerfs or patches just now cause wat harm could another 80 do.
That’s exactly wat I was saying about warrior banners etc.
Wat annoys me the most is that other classes are aware of this. I’ve had several people in wvw lure me into the water and either manage to make me run, die or they simply escape. Extremely up in the water. Mesmer clones but no thieves guild or trap? Aoe banners but no refuge? Hide in shadows but no blinding power? Wut?!
It happens now and then to move and as someone said about mesmers I get alot on their dodge clones. Sometimes its best to just wait and let stealth run out only to cnd again. If your 25+ in sa there’s some more might for your trouble.
shadow arts … traitline for all Pveler in wvw
try some tpvp without stealth
This guy is running runes of jealousy. Seem to work for him.
On topic if u guys haven’t seen yishis other videos they are also good. I think it’s 5 or 6 where he takes on two thieves from the same guild (most likely voip and very experienced fighting alongside each other) and both using the same build as him. Needless to say he “completed the kills”. Once I saw that I knew he was really good.
Dunno about anyone else but 7/10 I won’t engage guilded groups and for sure 10/10 I would run from dual thieves guilded.
Also alot of the time yishis simply knows his opponents classes better than they do (see the daggerstorm downs)
I always thought that our stealth utilities like shadow refuge were disabled underwater because fields weren’t allowed. Then I saw the npcs in the new living story dropping them all over the place. Shortly after that I realised that warriors are able to use banners etc underwater… Just rolled my eyes…
I feel pretty much useless in spvp these days, more so because other classes can do it better and faster in most cases…even roaming in hotjoin. Shortbow #5 on battle for kythlo would be the only exception imo.
As a new thief player I was fascinated by that video. Boy do I have a long way to go!
Question: why Descent of Shadows? It doesn’t seem like falling is something that comes up too often?
Yeah I guess when looking at the trait on paper it doesn’t seem that good but in WvW especially the borderlands (as shown by yishis in his vids) it can be extremely useful. Not only will you get across maps quicker and with less hassle but you will survive a lot of would be deaths from KB’s and narrow escapes.
If you notice in yishis build and video he managed to get a great backstab off and confuse the hell out of that necro. WIth his build the stealth from the trait alone is providing regen and 2x might. So if the enemy drops right on top of u or next to you they are at depleted health AND blinded. The odds are heavily in your favour.
In a roaming/1vX WvW build I would much prefer not only the major and minor trait but also the 100 to vit and 10% boon duration over any of the other options i.e 10 in DA.
Funny thing is all the qq on thief is because the abuse of permastealth d/p in WvW, so you sPvP players that keep on saying d/p is still good in sPvP can shut your pile hole, because no one give a kitten.
Hmm I’m not sure anyone said that intact it’s probably quite the opposite. D/p permalink stealth was a wvw thing and I for one am happy it’s gone.
I use it now on instances with s/p and som so I guess I’m lookin forward to the buff. Though the main reason is because I run 10/30/0/30/0 in wvw and pve and dont want to retrait, it’s effective enough in the stack.
If OP didn’t realise d/d is pretty much improved as of Dec 10 then he was:
1. Actually d/p perma stealth but too ashamed to admit it
2. A fotm style part timer running around ganking upped lowbies with some googled build
3. Or just a bad
Either one, he aint no thief
Seems you don’t know Yusei. Considering your post I have doubts that you play a thief at all
Haha don’t you feel silly now? I suggest you read this legendary players latest post.
Think outside the zerg OP. Watch a good small encounter or gvg video and you will find that more often than not the coordination over both reviving and stomping can be a huge decider.
Would you rather us thieves have stability or stealth stomps in the grand scale of things? I’m willing to bet this is QQ from someone who hasn’t played much of thief.
Any thief will tell you outside of stealth or black powder it’s pretty hard and pretty stupid to attempt s stomp in PvP OR wvw
How does thief survive during combat in wvw? There are three ways as I see it: stealth, evasion and shadow stepping.
All three survival methods are getting hit with the Dec. 10 patch. They must want thieves to die more.
I think they want you to teleport yourself INTO the zerg while trying to stomp the straggler u downed. Lol in all seriousness in its current state I will never use hard to catch which is wat seems to be getting forced on us. Should be called hard to justify.
It’s not perfectly fair. Hard to discuss without typing math (no point as it doesn’t exist within and with the limit of other factors) but let’s say you could potentially be stripping 2 boons inside of 10 secs. 1 from LS and 1-2 off your CD. It would be potentially more OP than the 3 on LS because u can crit without spending ini. Coincidentally this whole patch seems to be addressing builds that have an abundance of ini and the abuse of skills that brings around.
Just think about the builds/traits that would effect. Not going to go into detail but with traits like hidden killer, skills like black powder and fury uptime it’s safe to say a boon would be stripped every 5-6 seconds and easily so.
Also bare in mind that this is just a minor adept trait we are talking about. Look where bountiful theft is and it’s CD…that’s wat anet deem “perfectly fair”
Lol I thought that rifle idea was a troll. Sorry I thought it was a joke about that old April fools commando thing. Also because gw1 had assassins and our roguesque class changed in gw2.
Don’t mean to shoot your idea down but I think “your” idea had been discussed by anet long before any of us even knew the classes. What I’m saying is you seriously don’t think “sniper rifles” were thought of….considered…then the assassin was renamed thief. If you know wat I mean?
Every weapon for every class would of been considered and I believe it’s for ideas like yours that we have a thief and not an assassin. If it was assassin then you’d have an excuse to want a stealth on demand, high mobility class to have a hard critting long range shot. Though your actually a thief so something like rifles are probably out of the question. big, heavy and loud…
Sorry I don’t agree with hiS being instant cast. In no way should that heal of all the heals in the game not be interuptable.
Withdraw would work exactly like roll for ini so I can’t see that happening. Whether people want to admit it or not now and after the sword nerf we have access to a decent amount of stun breakers.
Not forgetting our access to stealth and high mobility it would just be too much. Sorry but idea is kinda broken.
It’s a shame that HTC didn’t work similar to the trap so u can actually set it with f2 or something. If that was too broken maybe it could return you to your last steal location (within reason and a relevant cooldown)
If OP didn’t realise d/d is pretty much improved as of Dec 10 then he was:
1. Actually d/p perma stealth but too ashamed to admit it
2. A fotm style part timer running around ganking upped lowbies with some googled build
3. Or just a bad
I guess they figured assassins reward was enough? Everyone else’s vigor is to see the hammer too so I guess they want less dodging. This is made even more a hindrance as we have traits both minor and major that reward depleted endurance.
Acro III is now goin to be 4s on heal? Wat is that like one dodge? (if end was empty)
All due respect heizero but lets hope that you are wrong because if a mistake has been made then there is a serious issue. The “math” behind it should be under the heaviest of testing before any wind of preview notes.
At first I was only bothered by the nerf to shadow return but I Will take that on the chin to see the death of abusive builds.
They are buffing builds that do not use ini regenerative traits by giving a larger base. It will also open up options to pick other traits (which may or may not be useless lol)
They are nerfing the traits themselves because certain builds which abuse certain mechanics would be able to do so even more.
Not alot of people are happy but that’s just natural. Overall I think Dec 10 is good for the class and game.
I won’t be using vigorous or quick recovery anymore and I am and will be 10/30/0/30/0. I currently use vigorous, quick and pain response in PvP. In pve I swap pain response for assassin’s reward (I use s/p and som in instances)
I’m looking forward to the vulnerability buff as my 10 in DA is trait VI. Not looking forward to cast time on return, we all know the effects this will have on PvP but I’m also worried about pve and namely lag. alto more downs and wiped stacks I think. As for the other changes if they take away the abusive builds then I’m all for it.
I dunno wat to do myself. I want to delete my thief (main and only character) to reroll a different class as I simply cannot play it anymore. I dread going through the human story, world completion and fractals etc again. Also would like to know if the birthday rewards are account or character bound…the email seemed character bound.
Played since early access as S/D 99% of the time in all situations. I took a small break and Since ive came back pvp/wvw is just not fun anymore…it just feels shoe horned into certain builds and weapons now. Ive been trying all sorts of builds, mixing utilities up and different gear combo’s looking to find something that will atleast keep me remotely interested in the class until (hopefully) better days come around.
On top of that in PVE pug situations (dungeons, fractals) we’re next on the kick list to rangers. Been insta kicked a few times and now im entering groups feeling like I have to justify my position by telling the party “hey im running venom share /w shadow refuge” etc hoping the guardian and his 3 warrior pals will keep me around.
