Guild Wars 2

I don’t really see them going any way but up. Inflation happens regardless. There are never enough gold sinks.

When bank slots were 4g I was thinking about getting one, now I’m just thinking about paying $8.

I assume Anet wants more people thinking like me.

On the other hand I made 4g last night, so would I trade 2-3 nights of production for a bank slot?

That’s because worthless is worthless. You need an item sink to keep prices up with the money sink. That item sink is currently the vendor. Just look at a lot of cooked food that nobody wants. 300k listed for 1c because people can’t vendor the items.

To get those items out of the system you need some way to turn them into something useful. Other than the Precursor grind right now that isn’t happening.

I’m with Zelot. The reason I quit playing WoW was because gold wasn’t scarce enough. Everyone could make it by doing daily’s and having 200k gold didn’t matter.

(My transaction #‘s aren’t that high, maybe 80k by 30k. Can’t look them up right now)

I’d love to see a wealth distribution graph of accounts with lvl 80’s on them just to see how close I am to the top 1%.

Looking at the sell orders for decent gold weapon:

3 players list 2 at 13.34
3 players list 5 at 13.35
1 player list 1 at 13.40
1 player list 1 at 13.49
1 player list 34 at 13.50
2 players list 4 at 16.60
3 players list 3 at 16.65
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a 3s undercut for over 25% of the value. Unless he’s encouraging people to buy these and try to rip them for ectos or wants someone to buy them to speculate on, why would someone think that the market would move his items that much faster if he undercut 3s?

(Buy orders are at about 9s if it matters)

Diross Asi.8632:

I spend an entire day farming for mats and the drop rate was so poor in multiple zones that I was only able to advance a couple of levels in crafting. I don’t want to mats off the trade company.

Does anyone have comments on my approach to crafting until I get to level 80?
Thanks

Everyone is right. The secret to not grinding is to sell what you don’t need and buy what you do so you don’t have to grind.

You should actually finish a zone, have 200+ leather 200+ cloth, 300+ wood and 300+ metal and THEN do a 75 skill block of crafting.

You won’t have enough fine mats, but you know what, tons of people are skilling on those same inscriptions, so sell the fine mats you farmed and if it makes sense (it usually will till level 75ish items) and buy the inscriptions everyone else is losing money on.

You will have to do maybe 2-3 more discoveries per block of 75, but the truth is you wanted those discoveries anyway because you wanted to make your armor right?

If you really get hard up for money go farm wood (and everything else) in a Tier 3 or Tier 4 zone. The trees are about 1s each, you can farm 20-30s in 15 min.

(skill on gloves, helms, boots, shoulders, horns, torches, pistols)

Just buy the gear. Support local crafters 104.

I think part of the problem is that big hole when you log into character select where it reminds you that you have 3 max level characters, have pvp’d your heart out and still no legendary.

It really does need to be this way. Warhammer AoR had super good healing if you set up for it and a 2 on 2 fight could last for a long time.

Quicker battles and more people dying means more honor per hour.

Just like in PvE its more about not getting hit than healing through it.

I think it was a poor choice to put in the game, because for most people this is the “go to set” of stats. I was telling the guild the other night that I didn’t like my build because it doesn’t work well in MF gear.

I am still gearing out my exotic sets, but I basically do like the OP. Nice armor in dungeons. Yellow MF armor for farming.

I’ve been getting more vanilla in tarnished coast (in one run I got about 8 which is up from 0)

SideStep.1347:

The Mystic Forge… Ive always looked at it like a convoluted mess. Ive been trying to use it but cant get anything out of it.

I say its a “convoluted mess” because ive seen around on other websites pics that shows you how to create certain “ELITE” weapons and the steps to make them are really just ludicrous.
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Sunrise

This is just a small example.

Sunrise is a Legendary Weapon……

There are other known recipes.

At any rate if you do a search on Mystic Forge on the wiki you will get a lot of the info you seek:

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Mystic_forge#Equipment for instance is one of the sub pages.

I’d make those sun bead weapon if I didn’t have to click the bead merchant 75×.

You’d think they would at least sell them in stacks of 25x

Do you think there is a better way to determine that than making and item and gambling?

I made a Cleric’s Orichalcum Inscription the other night. It cost about 1.8g to make and the sale price was about 2.45g. I’m thinking EZ money. Apparently though, the market for these is super thin because I left it there for 3-4 days watching people gradually undercut me and they didn’t seem to be selling either. I took a big bite out of my price hoping a speculator would grab it. (2.20g) but that sat there for a while as well (and started getting undercut for a couple days). I ended up selling it to a buy order after 8 days because I realized the market was just artificial.

Are there any stats out there that would hint that this market was false beyond guessing at the listing volume?

I think there were about 3-5 things I made skilling up that sold well enough on the TP to profit, and I know for a fact 2 of them aren’t in any leveling guide.

For most of them, just vendor. Crafted items seem to have lower than normal salvage rates.

I think the last part of Snow’s post is the important part. People who know they aren’t going to grind out a legendary aren’t spending the money on them, or they are going to farm everything else first and then worry about the gold.

The “ghost” recipes fade you out which is pretty cool.

Get closer, go to different station, reload your client.

If none of those work report a bug.

It really depends on what you are doing to level. If you are running dungeons and stuff like that, sure gear yourself out.

If not, greens are more than enough.

Yep. Jug of Liquid Karma or whatever it’s called. I moved one over to my lowbie chef.

I liked this thing because we used to grind achievements to nearly finally finished then go fill them on a lowbie. Now if its karma you’re after you don’t have to do that.

If you want to farm it, farm mobs that drop bags. The bags will open for the right materials.

Also in my experience the drops from low level zones are low level except in dungeons.

I know when I was messing around in Ashford the other day I got 4 level 6-8 blue items.

So I was leveling huntsman the other night and noticed that Darksteel Warhorns were listed on the TP at 6s with a cost to make around 1.15s.

Thinking this odd I checked the Buy side and most of them were at 60-80c, but there were a couple right around 1.2s

No obviously the taxes would prevent me from creating these horn parts at a profit, but it got me thinking whether or not I should fill buy orders even if I could make a profit. Suppose the spread was 2s by 6s.

Firstly are the horns really selling for 6s. If the average price was any indication they weren’t, so I would be just listing things which were either going to sit there or get undercut.

Maybe the buyer was making horns to sell, or maybe he was just flipping horn parts.

Would I be a fool to fill that order if it were profitable?

Pretty Sure Peaches are karma bought and you could sell peach tarts et.

Problem is I think most of the cost of those is in the sugar/flower et.

My biggest issue was after trying WvW I couldn’t handle the clip issues and sometimes the lag.

I do like character progression, but I’m ok with just challenging a leaderboard somehow too.

I’d like to see some PVE content based on PVP gains besides just karma/crafting bonuses et.

At your level you should be entering zones where you are farming iron, seasoned wood, and coarse leather. Level 30-35 items are crafted with the tier you just finished (wool, thin, soft).

This is why I don’t understand why people have a hard time keeping their crafts as they level because the armor you need now is from the tier you just finished.

If you want to get caught up to your level you should be about skill 150.

You need about 300 wood and metal and about 150 leather/cloth to do each tier. As you progress you should get extra of some things and you might have to buy the difference.

Check the TP for Insignia and Inscriptions as they tend to be about half the cost to craft them.

Yep. Thanks Dev’s for listening to this one. I’m sure the value of those high end bags went up a few cp over no chance at butter

it doesn’t matter how you get the mats. I would try to gather all the base materials if you don’t have a lot of money. Ore and Wood are easy to come by. You can always farm that to pay for cloth.

Or simply do what I did and do two starting zones on one character.

You could put materials on the market w/out refining them. the copper gain is minimal compared to the 2-4g you will spend leveling a craft.

In my experience using a discovery guide it made it about 5 items cheaper on the backend which are the most expensive ones.

Start here:
http://www.guildwars2-crafting.com/

In the leveling guides he has you making the insignias. If you can buy the insignia cheaper than making them you should. You might have to do a couple extra discoveries to make up the loss in skill points, but just figure out the cheapest route.

Iron for instance is dirt cheep so it makes more sense to do more discoveries with cheaper insignia.

Sometimes it also works out better for what you have rather than what’s in the guide.

I’m 80 and I still don’t think it’s completely clicked lol.

I leveled doing heart farms circle strafing mobs with double pistol.

I tried a flamethrower build which had nice damage but I wasn’t adding much in dungeons.

Now I’m trying a heal/bomb bunker build that seems strong, but I don’t really care for it. (Although I can solo Veteran Mobs + Adds without it taking 20 min now).

I think i really want a pistol shield build. If this guy above can tank 8 mobs that way I assume he’s got similar survivability to my bomb build but that he can still do solid damage from 10-15 away.

I only port to places I can chop 3 trees to pay for my port.

I know there is a mystic kit you can get that’s cheaper than 5x rare kits.

is there a kit like the basic one you can get w/ 250 charges?

(Sidenote I need to buy more bag space)

Maybe sell some of that extra wood and metal?

Also jute materials make armor up to lvl 20. If I recall it was about lvl 25 that I was able to keep my gear up crafting.

Bags from the aforementioned 55-65 areas are your best bet. Usually its profitable to salvage white items as well.

Some exotics can give you 10-15s profit after taxes if you aren’t impatient.

Making the wrong one can set you back 50-60s so be careful, or don’t play in that sandbox.

If you are farming enough and using the cheapest discovery method you should have no problem keeping your gear up with your level.

You will have to buy either fine crafting materials or often the better choice, the inscription to go in your weapons.

This is a nice guide. Thanks for putting this up.

What’s wrong with letting ignorant people and those too lazy to go to a vendor get 15% less for their item?

Setting the minimum at vendor price or 1c over vendor is fine.

Yes as your skill gets higher and you make higher mats the weapons will get higher.

Copper tops out at about level 20.

I did read that thread when he first posted it. There wasn’t any discussion about Kit Refinement, and what it does exactly.

These are my issues running dungeons with the Heal-Bomber (bunker) build:

-I obviously need more toughness.
-Being right up in the mob’s face with so many spell effects makes it hard to tell when he’s about to do something really bad, and the range on bombs is tiny.
-People don’t stay in the heal areas so I have to stop bombing to throw Elixer H or what have you. (Main reason I don’t run Healing Turret)

The whole reason I brought this up was that I liked Pistol/Grenades but wanted more survivability.

That seems normal considering the amount of gold in the system. I know a lot of people who have thought about parking extra gold in gems but they would need a 30%+ return to get away with it.

In that regard it makes sense.

The whole stick of butter trick doesn’t work because they would have to buy every stick of butter between that one and the one the guy has.

You would have to find some junk item nobody is listing.

If you can afford to craft exotics, 40s is nothing.

People are so spoiled. 40s to switch vs having to learn it all over again like every other game.

Cinnamon was too big to fail.

Just like in real life, the fact of the matter is that the greedy get scammed out of a few gold because they are trying to make a quick buck.

These kinds of rumor scams are why legit companies have to pay tons of money to keep the public updated with their doings (financial reporting).

The way to deal with rumor scams (if ANet cares which they don’t have to) is to have transparent information. IE This is coming and these are the patterns.

I did dump the firearms for more explosives.

If I put 10 points in Kit Refinement 20/0/30/10/10 what does it do?

the 15-25 Norn Zone just north of Lornar’s Pass, and the north half of Lornar’s Pass. Covered in the stuff.

Oh is it 4? That’s why I needed so much soft wood to get through that level. I thought I was just being inefficient.

Maybe they could do us a favor and change the soft wood trees in Lornar’s Pass back to Seasoned.

Because the game needs gold sinks.

Or you could cook on your alt, or you could buy the food off the TP because its cheaper than 40s to respec. Or just be glad you didn’t lose all your progress.

There were holiday collectors items though (since true crafting didn’t exist in GW1), and every week the items for the traveling trader quadrupled in price.