Guild Wars 2

dont forget ranger this time pls.

whats with trapper ranger (ranger 3 traps (skills) and engi one bomb kit (1 skill)
and the bomb kit feels so much more powerful than 3 trapps.
trapper ranger trait rework/more traits?

whats with a dps ranger (longbow/greatsword)
longbow rework finaly?
longsword rework finaly?
dps traits rework finaly?

whats with ranger pets (much are useless)

state of spirit ranger

whats with offhand axe, its to weak (maybe give the skill 5 a blast finisher and knock like engie shiled when press it 2 times?)

whats with shouts, nearly all are totaly crap and useless…

Pets:
1. the possibility to switch between pet skills and weapon skills with the f2 button
2. pets cast the skills instant when the player press the button (f2 skills)
3. some pets with blast finishers on f2 button
4. a pet with stealth on f2 button
5. a pet with heal on f2 button

weapons:
1. offhand axe: whirle defense: pressing the skill again after the first cast knocks the target enemy back and is a blast finisher

2. longbow, huge skillrework
barage rework: be able to run when cast this skill, fast cast time, only one barrage rain
point blank shot: combinate this with hunter shot, swiftness also for the player
rapid fire: remove it
place for 2 new skills: one with a dodge and one with a blast finisher?

3. longsword, huge skill rework
well that have to be some gameplay like on a s/d thief, because survive for dps ranger is rly low on melee.
it needs much more surive (dodges/block/stealth) in the offensive skills, also the cast time have to be much faster (maul…)
actualy the skills on this weapon feels more like warrior gameplay not like ranger gameplay.

4. mainhand axe:
auto attack: 1 bleeding on first hitted target (same like engi auto attack pistol)

5. shortbow:
make it somehow a little bit less a pew pew pew weapon

Traits:
1. more trapper ranger traits in different traitlines, maybe move the 2 trapper traits also into marskmanship 10 and 20
2. more dps ranger traits, to make a dps ranger rly strong
3. more traits to add active condi cleanse on some skills for dps ranger builds
4. more traits for active pet use (pet can dodge, pet swap, stronger f2 skills)
5. 50% traits are still useless, pls rework them (just one => instinctual bond.. there are more like this one and thats a rly bad joke)

Utility Skills:
1. remove all shouts and make new nice pet skills for a active beastmaster gameplay
2. traps: traps need a buff, for example a ranger need 3 utility slots if he plays with 3 traps. an engi have the dmg and combofields of this 3 traps in one utility slot (bomb kit) and thats even better then the 3 traps
3. spirits: spirits are invincible in the time when the ranger use dodge.
4. active condi cleanse on some utilitys, maybe create a new skill for that
5. heal as one: add a dodge

adam
dont join solo q, it destroys your soul ^^

well spirit ranger is still only working build and its not so strong anymore.
you doing a great job anet in talking at sotg and just do nothing about that

Sensotix.4106:

Stievie.6128:

Fomby.4295:

Oidmetala.8426:

add to point 4
thief, necro, guardian and ranger

only mesmer, ele and engi is for pros in this forum :P

Mesmer is now a face roll class as well.

faceroll with useless PU build? yes

faceroll with shatter? no

oidmentala you have no idea how hard it is to play mesmer

well Fomby.4295 have write this not me
but mesmer is so kittening hard to play, same like ranger haha :P

add to point 4
thief, necro, guardian and ranger

only mesmer, ele and engi is for pros in this forum :P

Empathetic Fighter.2065:

Oidmetala.8426:

Empathetic Fighter.2065:

Oidmetala.8426:

Empathetic Fighter.2065:

Mesmer indeed is a very powerfull class. However, others like the necro, ranger or warrior just overshadow it.

sry, but thats right before the patch.
now you are just wrong :P

well for warrior you are still right, but that profession is a bad joke with this longbow dmg
in soldier amulet

If we speak about a duel on point the mesmer is without any chance. And as this game is about capture the mesmer, at least in this mode, isn’t that strong.

nope we speak about tournament

our team
warrior
warrior
guardian
thief
ranger

vs noobs lamers
mesmer
mesmer
thief
guardian
warrior

so mesmer not tourny viable?
its new op lame profession you will see in future

If you lost, you just got outplayed. That simple.
And calling dual-mesmer the “noob-lamer” team regarding your setup with dual-war/thief/ranger is ridicolous to say . . .

you need to be always right empa? :P
well you will see it ealry enough, mesmer profession is rly strong again.
its for sure verry tournament viable.
sure we got outplayed because this profession is strong, we are not a team full of bad players btw.

Empathetic Fighter.2065:

Oidmetala.8426:

Empathetic Fighter.2065:

Mesmer indeed is a very powerfull class. However, others like the necro, ranger or warrior just overshadow it.

sry, but thats right before the patch.
now you are just wrong :P

well for warrior you are still right, but that profession is a bad joke with this longbow dmg
in soldier amulet

If we speak about a duel on point the mesmer is without any chance. And as this game is about capture the mesmer, at least in this mode, isn’t that strong.

nope we speak about tournament

our team
warrior
warrior
guardian
thief
ranger

vs noobs lamers
mesmer
mesmer
thief
guardian
warrior

so mesmer not tourny viable?
its new op lame profession you will see in future

Empathetic Fighter.2065:

Mesmer indeed is a very powerfull class. However, others like the necro, ranger or warrior just overshadow it.

sry, but thats right before the patch.
now you are just wrong :P

well for warrior you are still right, but that profession is a bad joke with this longbow dmg
in soldier amulet

surprise surprise, yes mesmer is rly powerful now, possible to win nearly all 1vs1 with it.
so whats more fun to fight now, the zoo or the invulnerability and stealth illu clone wars profession? :P

spirit ranger is allrdy nerfed enough…
it wins nearly no 1vs1 anymore
only reason to run it in our team is the rez spirit right now.

btw the “bugfix” to make each spirit active skill 1 second cooldown after you spawn them dont work anet.
the spirits active still not work if you press the button to fast after this one second.
so much time my rez spirit just dont cast his active and im sure it dont get a interrupt…
the same for my other spirits, sometimes they dont cast when i press the active skills to fast, just test it in the mists, theres nobody to interrupt it…
so thx for this nice bugfix anet or should i call it ninjanerf?

for the topic:

weapons should not buffed/nerfed anymore :
shortbow, dagger, torch, mainhand axe and sword (well sword 1 maybe need a rework)

weapons need a total rework on skills not only dmg:
longbow and longsword

weapons need a bit buffs:
offhand axe and warhorn

useless skills wich need a total rework:
shouts: guard, search and secure
survival: quickening zephyr (remove the stunbreak there and give it some offensive)
survival: muddy terrain (well most other skills are rly much more interesting Oo)

skills need a bit buff:
trapps: spike trap, flame trap, viper trap and frost trap (traitreword and more traits)
survival: sharpening stone (well nobody use it for some reason)
spirits: frostspirit
shouts: guard, description sounds good, but it dont works good in a fight…

at least traits:
there are still ~50% uselsess traits and traits in the wrong traitline.

there need more INTERESTING traits for a dps ranger in the marksmanship and skirmishing traitline.

there need to be more interesting traits for a trapper ranger (like the traits for a spirit ranger)
maybe bring our 2 trapper traits into an other traitline like marksmanship 10 and 20 because this traitline have condi duration.

wildness survival:
our best traitline, it needs always the 30 points for the condi cleanse.
would be nice if theres some alternative condi cleanse in some other traitlines which give some skills active condi cleanse, so some rangers like dps rangers dont have to go with 30 wildnes surival anymore…

yes pls delete this crap of map finaly…
less fun, most bad map ever.

Keksmuffin.1450:

Valentin.2073:

spirit build is not passive. spirits have active skills too. stop calling it passive build. a ranger equipped with signets that’s passive.

Because signets don’t have active effects right? And because you’re totally using sunspirit for the delayed blind and not for the burning procs on auto right? Maybe think before you type?

PS: Srsly Griften? Doge?

i use the sun spirit for blind on stomp :P

+1
more love for ranger builds
like trapper or dps rangers (longbow and longsword skills feels so slow and bad)

and maybe it would be nice to have more useful pets because atm ~75 of the pets are just bad

oh and active condi cleanse pls
because we have always to play 30 into wildness survival…
dont know why you anet guys was talk with battosai at sotg and agree him on most points, but you do nothing!!!! -.-

whats with ranger now?
i rly want to know you still work on this profession or not…

there was a state of the game i remember with battosai and you was speak about
some things like

-active condi cleanse (each ranger build still need 30 points in wildness survival)
-a viable dps ranger build (longbow skills and longsword skill still crap)
-more pet skills controll (well i know you dont want do that….)
-rework some pets ( ~75% of pets are still useless)

atm ranger have only 1 viable build and thats still the
spirit ranger and it get nerfed and nerfed..
(and anet call it bugfix…btw the “spirits dont cast there active skills bug” is not fixed yet. now the spirits dont cast the active when i press my buttons to fast after the 1 second cooldown :P)

sure, spirit ranger is still viable, but win 1vs1 with it on close is for sure over in tpvp
the warrior, s/d thief, bomb engi and mesmer will destroy it hard,
necro win it 50/50 chance.
well thats enough to dont use this build for close or send it into 1vs1 situations,
but thats not the problem, spirit ranger is still not bad for teamfights.

the problem is, its the ONLY ONE viable build
and i think in future meta its not a must have for teams.

the problem is the not working builds…

dps ranger:
still crap and i think it will stay bad if anet not will rework the full longsword, longbow and offhand skills…
this skills feel so bad and slow, not working together for a 1vs1 or teamfight situation.
there was so much dmg buffs in the last patches for this weapons but they are still not viable… i think because the weaponskills itselfs sux to hard…
well also most traits are not good for dps ranger builds.

trapper ranger:
well spirit ranger is so much stronger then trapper ranger and spirit ranger is a support build…
that not means spirit ranger need a nerf again, it means trapper ranger need a huge buff…
you should think about bring more traits for trapper or give the only 2 tapper traits into an other traitline or make it a 10 points and 20 points trait.
dont know, but this build needs so sure a buff (it was most fun to play ranger in the past…)

beastmaster ranger:
well dont know it was not bad in the past and it was only a 1vs1 build.
now the most bad joke at this is, it dont wins 1vs1s any more
the bomb engi, mesmer, necromancer and for sure the warrior just eat it
think i forget some builds which destoy it 1vs1, but only testet vs this atm

at least skills nobody use on ranger, maybe that means they are useless.. Oo
quickening zephy
guard
search and rescue
sic em
this ones are rly bad skills nobody ever use

protect me
sharpening stone
muddy terrain
frost trap
frost spirit
signet of stone
signet of the hung
well this ones are not so bad, but well nobody use them

what do you guys think, pls only constructive posts (yes also devs, to much troll posts at last time)
(ranger hater or love only there own profession ppls pls stay out)

oh yes, pls let us skip this!

Valentin.2073:

any ranger build can counter a hambow. lol

sure you hero :P

yes this skyhammer farm is a rly bad joke… and now you can buy wintersday gifts with glory to sell them for gold…

thats rly much gold for skyhammer farmers, nice joke :P

Darnis.4056:

#hireDarnis Oh wait.. :/

rly nice picture

Lordrosicky.5813:

I hate agreeing with morwenna but I do

:)

what do you think about give the old pvp players gold for the tournys they played in the past?
because there are much old players played tpvp since beta and spend rly much time only into pvp.

for example, i played 3802 tpvp machtes and won 2441 of them.
i never played much pve, so i have only 20 gold atm :P

maybe it would be nice to give us pvp only players a bit gold after the patch.
maybe only for the wins ~15-20 silver.
sure it would be much gold in a short time, but pvp only players never have much gold and we spend rly much time into playing the game in pvp since beta and dont get much more then fun for that :P

haha lordi, why no ranger qq this time? :P
i enjoy gw2 forum talk so much

why this masters of fail should give now rewards to the top 100 players?
most of them are not good players and stay in top 100 since a few weeks and this only because theres not much strong players left.

the good players who always fight against good teams and stay in ladder top 100 a rly long time should get no rewards because anet kicked us out from top 100 for dont play the sad meta atm.

and the “more less skilled ppls” staying in the ladder top 100 since a few weeks should get a reward?

sry but thats a joke, much good players was hold there top 100 rank rly long time and this ppls also won this rank because they was fight against good ppls in a meta which was need more skill then this fail meta atm.

and now give a reward to some ppls staying in top 100 since some weeks because all the good old players left? thats a joke.

they can give rewards some month after ladder reset and then only when this ladder finaly works well.

Josh Davis.6015:

We have increased the rate at which someone decays on the leaderboard. We were hoping to observe the change for a few days before making any sort of announcement, but you guys are too clever for that.

Justin has also changed the decay to update every hour, rather than once a day, so you should see movement happen a bit more often.

Let us know what you think!

i think you guys are to slow.
wake up.

well finally im out of top 50 after staying ~2 month afk (in the 2 month i droped from 23 to 43 and now to 454, funny)

good job, you guys do so a fast and great job, you are the best!

now lets leave beta status, maybe in the next month or year, bring back a bit skill into the game?
or no, lets nerf and buff the same skills on professions all the time, what a joke of balance team.
you guys buff things to nerf them later again, just sad.

a t s e.9614:

Hater point of view: They must be nerfed into the ground
1) petting zoo
2) requires no skill to play
3) I just hate rangers in general

for the “haters”
this game is from noobs for noobs.

there is no profession which need skill atm.
when you know the game basics and all skills,
then every class is simple…
gw2 is a casual game, nothing esports or any high skill game.
and it looks like this game will stay casual.
atm no skill is required for any class.

Divinity.8041:

Even with the proposed changes, and looking at other games out there right now. I really feel like I have been duped into believe things will get better. I feel indoctrinated to believe that the pvp in this game is worth something. Too late though…

I find pve in Diablo 2 more entertaining right now lol…

Does anyone else feel this way? I really loved this game, but I can’t even log for dailies right now because everything in my body says it is wrong.

Have we been drinking the kool aid? I really think we have been….

same for me,
i played this game since release only in pvp and in good teams vs good teams.
but at the moment its no more fun to play it.

the best time in my mind was when we was able to play 3 rounds tourny with a gem price.
also so much more ppls was play in this time.
quali points time was also ok, but there the pvp was start to die slowly…

now i jump around in skyrim till a gw2 addon will maybe improve the pvp-.-

1.) Battle of Kyhlo
2.) Forest of Niflhel
3.) Legacy of the Foefire
4.) Temple of the Silent Storm

Lordrosicky.5813:

The res is boring, OP and lame. Aoe healing signet. Full condi cleanse, massive res of often 2 players on a tiny cast time. Only 180 cooldown on the skill.

Man it is just so OP.

Other spirits also OP and boring. 1 spam. Literally no skill. It is is the definition of no skill. Stand in healing spring and spam 1 = wins alot.

Can’t see a thing amongst all the BS they do. They block your attacks.

It is lame AND overpowered. But mainly lame. The res spirit just demoralises me everytime I see it.

Please just delete AI specs. Make it totally unviable with a huge nerf.

Then good rangers can shine again and Ai clutter and lameness can go away.

as i know from your last qq topics you play most time necromancer, im right?

and you seriously cant handle a spirit ranger with this?
go and delete this game pls, if this is true

well, keep whining against ranger.

i just wonder how u bobs handle warrior, thief, necro and mesmers when you cry about ranger.

warrior is brain off just spam cc
necro is brain off just spam condis
thief is brain off just spam ~2-3 attacks all time

you full kittens whant a ranger nerf for balance the hole game.
well then whats the space of ranger after nerf him into ground.
atm warrior, necro, thief and mes can beat spirit rangers without much problems

oh and can you ranger haters finaly stop with create qq topics?
you realiced that this ele gameplay is rly bad, why a bad ele should win?

eat lightning spirit is a huge problem, yes nerf ranger.
this ele would lose vs each other profession also, not only because this class is in a bad spot atm.

stop to lie yourself when speak about ranger is to easy to play.
guardian = easy mode
necro = easy mode
s/d thief = easy mode
warrior = easy mode
mesmer = easy mode

only ele and engi is a bit more hard to play, but not so much.
maybe some guys play the wrong game.

gw2 professions are easy to play.
but you can see who playes a profession as main ond who not.
easy to learn, hard to master.

in this video we talk about a low skilled fight.
ele plays bad and ranger plays bad, for sure maybe the passive of the ranger is there a big + when he fight a bad player.
but this dont happen with good players… killing lightning spirit in melee…
yes “wtf what was that”
just no idea what is happen, but create topic.

hackks.3687:

seriously? how are people defending this? the player was disabled for 90% of the fight (i.e. he wasn’t actually playing!!!), but some how it’s OK that he won that fight? In a Player versus Player match???

I don’t care what classes were being played. kitten like that has no business being in PvP

How can so many people be this self-centered or outright stupid?

I blame public education…

play spirit ranger and fight a warrior, necro, mesmer, thief, engi or guardian, even a good ele is not so easy to fight.
if you play a class with much passive mechanic, you have at the other side less self controll and the “good” enemy players can handle such things, because ranger passive and pet attacks happen always in same rotation.

most ranger qq is a learn to play problem, because ppls dont create a ranger to learn his skills. i know also much ppls in my friendlist played all professions, but not the ranger.

for example…
when i play my bunker guardian i can survive a spirit ranger like forever.
but when i play a spirit ranger i can kill much guardians.
and why, just because this ppls dont know the ranger class well.

in think they should remove it.

in my mind the leaderbords is one of the reasons ppls dont play much as before, because all ppls care rly much about this bad ranking (i do it myself also to much)

i prefer the time before the ladder when i think about tpvp in gw2.
the good old 3 map free tournamet and paid tournament with gem price (best times)
and the qualipoint times (was ok)

in this time there was much teams joining tournys.
but also much friendlist teams or even much heart of the mists random teams have do alot of tournamet, because there was no problem to lose some matches.

at the 3 map tournamet times was good, if you whant just play do the free tournys, there was the skill not so high, if you whant hard matches then join the paid tournamet with your team vs other good teams and maybe win GEMS, not silly ranking…

in my mind this times was much better then the actual teamladder, because ppls only play with there team mates now.
this need 5 players online and if one of this 5 players is not only a full team just dont play because they dont want lose rank… (this leads to our second account situation, but most ppls even dont play much with the second acount random)

well and at least there is the soloq ladder.
this one is the most big no need ever, because i have to play with 4 random ppls.
if i have 4 good random ppls for sure i win ranking, but when i have bad luck i get 4 bad random ppls and lose rank.

anet should bring back 3 maps paid tournament option with gem price.
and this one should be the only one with also a ladder maybe.
but better remove this joke again

so, your own misstakes make you create a topic.
its rly bad ele gameplay here and it looks like you should create a ranger to know his skills/passives.

for sure spirit ranger is rly passive, i would also prefer the old trapper ranger, but this build is to weak.
in this video you have killed yourself and to 80% you spamed only your offensive skills without brain.
so im just wondering what do you whant?
beat everything with just spam the attackskills without tactic is also a bad joke.
and btw you nearly killed the ranger, hes also low hp.
you only lost because the lightning spirit at the end, because he dmged faster then you heal.
in this video the ranger won only because your misstakes and he was nearly down even with your ~bad ele gameplay…

oh i not only defend spirit ranger,

i defend the condi necro, cc warriro, spirit ranger, s/d thief, shatter mesmer, s/d ele, bunker guardian and bomb engi,
because all of them are lame and op, so the game should be ok?

and whats most lame on spirit ranger?
you can lose and win against every other profession

you guys speak about
cc warrior = lame
s/d thief = lame
spirit ranger = lame
bunker guardian = lame
condi necro = lame

you just forget the

shatter mes burst = lame, because mes is for sure viable atm
ele burst = lame, also viable class

so everything other profession ppls not play is lame. looks like we have a good balance.
if you not like your own meta anymore, you need to leave.
reason for this meta is your much forum posting like this, now you have your meta guys, anet was listen much to you.

and why i should care to helseth?
is guys like helseth your every time speaking truth gods?
this is also just a player and we have win vs him in past also,
same for team paradigm and car crash before they went to pax.
so i dont have to care when such players dont like the meta.
im fine with the old meta and the actual meta.
i will be also fine with the future meta, because i like the game mechanic.

my problem is just, i hate this whine topics so much.
and this one is whine topic number 4.
this guy spam them like hell with the hope anet listen to the guys who cry most load

and the points on his first post are crap srsly…
i only agree on asuras, but also this is a not must have.
and how much ranger hate i can read on this points is just interesting…

Lordrosicky.5813:

Caine.8204:

Lordrosicky.5813:

Caine.8204:

Lordrosicky.5813:

1, Berserker stance – This is the only thing i agree with

2, Automated response – stack conditions before he hits 25% and he dies

3, Warrior stuns – You can dodge them.

4, Sword thief evades – Like I said before. Drag him around a corner, a tight space. He can teleport in and out, but you can use your autoattack to put bleeds on him. When you see him, DS and fear him. Place marks down on yourself, so when he teleports to you, he gets loads of conditions. Counterplayed

5, Thief feline grace trait – Thief is squishy as all hell without evading/dodging.

6, Vigor – You’re a necro. Peel it off. Use vigor yourself. If you can’t get vigor, you can still counterplay them by autoattacking and timing your attacks for AFTER they dodge

7 , Runes of lyssa – Like I said before. It has a decently long cooldown, and is mostly used for counter-condition play when the user doesn’t have much already. Make them pop it, and then burst them down.

8, Sigil of energy – Dodging is not op, it’s part of the game. Time your attacks for after their dodge.

9, Nature of renewal. Interrupt it. If you can’t interrupt it, kill it.

10, Ele burst – Ele is the easiest class to burst down. So squishy. I love killing Ele on my necro

11, Signet of spite – The cooldown is 48 seconds traited. If you can’t live after a signet of spite, you need to learn to play a necro. You have SO MANY CONDITION REMOVALS. Dagger #4, staff #4. And why not use plague? It’s a stun break, and grants an instant win against other condition classes.

12, healing spring – No. Already nerfed. Without this, ranger lacks a lot of active condition removal.

13, Elixr R – 120 second cooldown on -MAYBE- rezzing themselves.

14, Lag – Personal problem

15, Emphatic bond – Passive Condition removal is hard and most of the time doesn’t remove what you want it to. Doesn’t help as much as it should

16, Healing turret – It heals for about 33% of a regular heal skill, but it can be used multiple times if you let the turret live. Kill the turret.

17, Healing signet – Wait until they pop it, then burst them down.

18, Shadows refuge – I can kill the thief 3/4 times that he pops shadow refuge. I guess i’m just a good necro.

19, Stand your ground – I can see why other classes other than necro have a problem with this. But necro?

20, Burning – No.

21, Asuras – Tab targeting fixed in october.

Went through it again.

It seems that your problem here is that you don’t know when to use your skills correctly. The goal is to wear them down enough, make them pop their utilities/heals before you have to, and then burst them down with your long cooldown abilities.

As a Necromancer, I have 0 problems with everything you mentioned except for Berserker Stance.

yeh sure mr pro. I dont know how to use any of my skills and suck. If only I had your godly skillset it would be fine I suppose?

Your “constructive” feedback just shows me that you’re a troll. I won’t even bother responding to your thread anymore. You’re a bad necro and you should feel bad. Get in the top 50 on leaderboards and then cry.

I am 3rd?

@lordofwhine
you forgot

“in soloq ladder”
because thats very important.

soloq ladder says exatly nothing and is so much more low skilled gameplay then teamladder top 100.

btw thats whine topic number 4 now,
with most posts from yourself.
maybe there is a reason why we cant find you on a teamladder.

for sure this game have problems, many of them because anet have listen to forum qq much times.
most of your points are crap like hell and just brainstorm, only you and some bobs will be happy with them, but for sure not all players.
wait for the october patch and after that you can change the game, because you will be never happy.
so why you waste time on a game you dont like.

PetricaKerempuh.7958:

HappinessFactory.4910:

K check this out.

1 person just got stomped ( you can see dolyak finisher)
1 person is downed (you can see by the downed symbol above the corpse)
both of them are on your team ( because the downed symbols are blue)

You can see the enemy spirit ranger has his ult spirit up in case anybody on his team dies (unlikely because 2 of your teammates are already down)
And there is a mesmer on point which might mean backpoint is open (if of course you knew mesmer was playing backpoint defender)

This is a lot of good information, that can be gathered from a rather poorly positioned camera angle. I’m not saying it’s perfect, but I don’t think it’s much to complain about as a player. As a viewer? sure but honestly I dont give a kitten about the 200 people watching spvp. E-sports is over lets just have fun.

can u do that in 0.5 sec?

the teams who see such tings more fast and react to them win.

rez spirit is easy and fast to see
when ppls down is easy and fast to see
a finisher is also fast to see

to know the backpoint defer is in mid is also not so hard when the team always say how much players on the points.

when 5 players play in teamspeak and every player have eyes and can speak, then such things can be handle for sure fast and good.

for sure its viable.
just some changes to the old build and mes is still a rly strong class
nice gameplays

lol, you dont give up Lordrosicky?
now you create whine topic number 3 :P

first, i see a whining NECRO with nearly all skills rdy on this picture,
if you would spam your strong aoe condi dmg on point there would be no longer spirits or enemy players run around :P

then i see the target is on yoroshi and not on the rez spirit, so if you down him now he get rezed.
2 of your mates are downed, one is death, looks like you have lose the teamfight, but i just wonder why your mates are down and you the necro is still alive, because when they dont target you hard you should do rly hard dmg on point against enemy team.
but well, instead make dmg you have target the storm spirit without any reason,
its time to use your fear wall on point and ulti to win some time after your mates are death to cap back your homepoint :P

well at least you are blue team, looks like 5 blue players and 4 red players are in mid at this picture (but 2 blues down (tebula rasa and get grunted) one death (rambolina)), one red player is allrdy on your homepoint and have the decap.
looks like you get 3 caped if your 5. death player dont respawn fast enough :P

at least seriously if you lose because this to much animations, then you just have to practise more.
thats not much animations on this picture and because your old 2 spirit ranger qq topics, the spirit ranger is for sure not the reason for to much animations on point.
its same huge animations on a teamfight since beta till now, nothing changed

for the guys who cant target with mouse, you get the new target system soon,
so be happy

just interesting how all of you forum masters have problems with max 4 spirits but at same time nobody of you cry about the mesmer illus :P

spirits do not attack and if they do its not hard to see.
btw the ranger have to time this attacks by himself not the spirits do it for you like the mesmer illus duellist and all this crap do.
the spirits just give the swiftness, protection and burning each 10 seconds, thats the 3 passives of this build with the condi remove trait.

if you have problems to target a spirit ranger you should switch the game.
i dont know how u guys can target a mesmer then,
also i dont know how the hole forum masters think the mesmer is to weak, you guys sleep on your forum topics instead playing.
look online, mesmer is for sure viable and rly strong, there are much mesmers running around again.

but im sure the mesmer whine will come after next patch also again.
its always something to whine in this forum.
you guys will be never happy. there is so much kitten talk about this bad condi meta and so much hate against other classes without reason.
its always so interesting how much time many guys waste to create hate topics against any profession, theres always ~80% crap and lies to read, because this guys have no idea about gameplay and class mechanics,
there is nearly in each topic always the same player names to read and this names write bullkitten like hell.
just bad that anet listen to such craptalk topics.

about the meta cry,
the hole forum was also cry about the old meta gameplay, there was the
bunker meta cry, the burst meta cry, the condi meta cry and now some cc meta cry. gogo keep it going.
good players always win, dont care about meta.

i dont see a condi meta atm when a teams run like

warrior = dps and cc
guardian = low dps and bunker
necro = condi dmg
spirit ranger = condi dmg
s/d thief = dps

guardian = low dps and bunker
warrior = dps and cc
mesmer = dps
bomb engin = condi dmg and decap
necro = condi dmg

guardian = low dps and bunker
ele = dps
s/d thief = dps
warrior = dps
necro = condi dmg

guardian = low dps and bunker
guardian = dps
warrior = dps and cc
backstab thief = dps
necro = dps
yes the eu guild shad was running this setup at a condi meta and won against good teams with this

guardian = low dps and bunker
guardian = low dps and bunker
bom engin engin = condi dmg and decap
spirit ranger shaman = bunker/condi
spirit ranger shaman = bunker/condi
yes theres a team trolling around with this setup.

all of this setups i meet when i play on top 100 ladder,
so i think i dont meet only bad players with this setups.

atm all classes have 1 strong build, its just a meta questions and meta setups dont means they are the best choose.
truth is you guys camp on forum and cry till any streaming player try any new build and most players just copy it.
dont know how less ppls try around to create own builds instead copy it and speak about meta and only way to play/win.
how long time was need to find out “oh warrior is so strong”
it was like ~3 weeks “condi meta” without warrior.

press f2 button like always and get the
pet skills on weapon skillbar

press f2 again to get weapon skills back.

its same like engi or ele then.
easy to play for each pve noob too.

and at least give a option to enable/disable pet self skill use
if u dont whant do them by urself.

for sure for self pet skill use the skills have to come instant when i press the button.

no pet skill use because pve players would be to stupid for this?! serious, what a bad joke.

there would be no problem for ranger players to press something like f2 and have the pet skills on the skill bar and when press f2 again have the weapon skills back…
then just make the pet do there skill instant when u press the button and well done.
this would be for sure not to hard for the “noobs”
in this game each class have not much skills and is fast to learn but “hard to master”

with this changes engi and ele still would have more skills to use then a ranger.
engi and ele is most fun to play classes atm, just because more skills.
i whant play a rpg game there with much self skill use!

also give the much passive crap finaly a cooldown bar.
for example i whant to see when my passive stun break or the empathic bond on ranger is rdy and not on cooldown…

edit:
and whats with the power ranger builds now
and more active condi clean on ranger.
there was a sotg with battosai, was this speak just
for nothing or will something like this come finaly? -.-

longbow and longsword still crap.
the pet shout skills still crap
30% of traits still crap or in wrong trait line
trapper traits in wrong trait line, trapper ranger is for sure not viable atm!

ranger have just one working build and
there ppls speak about op, nice joke.

make trapper viable again and im fine, i also dont like the spirit and bm passive builds.
just give ranger a power build and for condi trapper build back.

for bm ranger the pet controll would be so nice, then this build would be fun to play and not only a passive build

same old story:

ranger not viable => ranger viable => ranger not viable => ranger viable => ranger viable => ranger not viable

ranger free kill all ppls remember this and whant this back =>
trapper ranger => trapper ranger op qq on forum => hgh engi build found, bb trapper ranger => bm ranger build found => bm ranger op qq on forum => stupid anet listen to forum noobs => bm ranger nerf => spirit ranger build finaly viable => spirit ranger op qq on forum => stupid anet listen to stupid forum noobs => future, lets see, pff

forum noobs and anet work rly fine toghether in nerf things.
most big luck i have is to learned early enough to play guardian well,
because this one never need changes, its like a rule, but its the most strong bunker for teamfight, there is no alternative, hm.

whats now with longbow and longsword?
whats with power ranger builds? to much work?
whats with controllable pet skills, also to much work.
when you listen to forum bobs then make ranger more “hard to play” and give pet controll

there was some speak about give ranger more active condi remove and battosai was speak with them about give active pet skill controll.
also whats with dps rangers (longsword and longbow suck like hell)

but well, there was the spirit ranger and the noobs who cant beat it and so this problems are not any more important :P

Roy Cronacher.1576:

Vamp Rook.7835:

-All spirits can now be launched, knocked down, and knocked back.

This was a bug fix which now will allow more counter-play when fighting spirits.

Vamp Rook.7835:

-Storm Spirit, Frost Spirit, Sun Spirit, Stone Spirit, and Spirit of Nature will now begin their recharge when the spirit dies instead of when the spirit is summoned.

-Storm Spirit, Frost Spirit, Sun Spirit, and Stone Spirit: Recharge has been reduced from 60 seconds to 25 seconds.

-Spirit of Nature: Recharge has been reduced from 240 seconds to 180 seconds.

Previously you were able to pre-cast spirits before a fight so that when they would die you could instantly re-summon them. This made it feel like there was little to no counter play. Players could take the time to AOE them down simply to have to deal with another set of spirits. These changes were made so that there is a time window where the ranger will be without spirits once they die. Since the spirits now die after their duration, we had to reduce the recharge to compensate. In fights where they are dying often, the shorter recharge is a buff.

Vamp Rook.7835:

Solar Flare: Fixed a bug so this skill no longer applies a duplicate infinite duration blind.

This was a simple bug fix removing unintended functionality.

sweet fail again to listen to the forum qqers, but ok do what you whant.

now think about the cast time, then im fine with this fail.
because when the spirits are down, the cast time is rly huuuge and in this time a spirit ranger eat much dmg vs good players.
the noobs will for sure let u summon them without interrupt this long cast time or go massive offensive, because in this time they know u cant dodge.

oh and you need to give spirits now more hp again, because it was important to play them in teamfight and a 1vs1 with fast resummon.

back to guardian, till next buff.
sry anet but you are a bit kitten.
it cant be true to buff things for nerf them again.
give me the old spirit ranger before the last big buff patch back, because its now more bad then before :P

@anet

pls, consider you talk with ~90% fullnoobs about balance in this forum.

better do what you think is right and dont listen to much to the forum.
most forum users camp 24/7 on forum and dont play enough to be able in give good feedback.
also the “good” players (much old mesmers) just qq around because they are not able to play the old build.

the ladder is one reason because players are not try to create new builds and test around, because much of the good players watch to much for their rank and dont whant lose any rank.
just a example how long it was need to realice that the cc warrior is so strong… just a bad joke how slowly peoples try around to find builds instead whine.

the last balance patch was not a disaster.
calling s/d thief, necro, warrior and ranger op and
speak about balanced guardian means.
oh wonder nearly each profession is op and only ele and mes have a bad spot (what not means they are to weak, they have rly huge dmg output).
so gg on balance anet.

also this to much npcs on point because spirit ranger qq is kitten.
why you guys cry about this, but you rly was ok with the old shatter mesmer npcs?

we need not much nerfs on atm working builds.
look more for new traits and skills, rework never used traits
and at least ignore this whiners…

last meta was fun, this meta is fun.

pah and stop ranger have no skill qq.
the players who play this class long time can do amazing things
and the players who just play it a bit are ~bad to watch and easy to kill when i run my ranger…

the most important thing to win is player tactic and player skill,
so keep playing/training and stop this kitten whining all the kittening time.
its a bad joke. look for another game if its now 1 yeahr no fun for you.
how you guys can cry 1 yeahr in this forum?!

i have fun playing my guardian and ranger when he is finaly viable.
its a not viable > viable > not viable > viable profession
but i have np to play him every balance patch with another build, because whiners on forum.

it would be rly better if you dont buff/nerf to much around on working stuff.
better try to make not much used skills/weapons/traits work
by improve them.
guardian is the perfect profession, alone when i play bunker guard,
there are all weaponsets useful. its so hard to pick a weapon combo out, because i always think “hm this one would be also so nice”
same on bunker guard traits.
there more then 4 different ways to play it and all are good in different situations.
THIS on all professions would be nice

just a example
pax finals 2. match and 3. match and you see what happens when you run 2 of this “op spirit rangers”

and why you cry like babys beacuse spirits, but the old shatter mes npcs was ok?
it was same npcs spam on point btw.
well just keep whining like all time

why always noobs talk about balance in this game in nearly every topic?
dont find most of you bobs in the ladder and you think you know whats to strong and whats not?

first learn to play, then talk about balance, instead waste time on crying on forum.
i hope you get your spirit ranger nerf, so you can whine about next profession.
the good players dont waste so much time on forum like you guys
just play the next working builds after next changes which anet do for u crying babys and have fun.

in a 1vs1 situation its 50/50 who win spirit ranger as warrior, s/d thief, necro or engin
and to win 1vs1 situations is much time important
so nerf them also, because all of them are also strong in teamfight.

8/10 because i like norns,
but its the wrong axes :P

here is my ranger

most of you guys just should go back to fractals.
there you can win,
because this npcs are brainless as most of you rank 1000+ guys running around without any tactic or skill.
if spirit rangers win you, then it was just a better player or you was to stupid to kill his spirits first.

so spam on pve forum and leave pvp again.

im a rly nooby spirit ranger, because i can lose vs necros, engins, cc warrios, s/d thiefs and after long fight sometims vs a good ele.
but i also stay rank 70 just because unbalanced imba spirit ranger.
we spirit ranger noobs dont need to know enemy attack animations and attack skills.

next time when i lose some profession i also make a new hate topic instead start training how to beat it, good idea.

i rly will enjoy the next balance patch and the meta change,
because like always, we will have much much new crying.
its the same procedure as every month.
we will have some new topics about the bad meta again.

bad burst meta kittening dople ele > bad condi meta kittening dople necro and spirit rangers.

im just wondering why so much ppls stay on this game when every meta is so bad and unbalanced.

aswell as cc warrior, condi necro, s/d thief, bunker guardian, dps elem, bomb engin.
so only mes looks a litle bit bad atm.

nerf all of them and only give them one auto attack, so finaly all can play the game