Guild Wars 2

WSG Delen.9203:

BilboBaggins.5620:

Miriam.2506:

Seeing the little progress made from first closed beta to this beta is very bad. It just seems nothing is done and things that got finished worked several times, with developers needed at other places.

What I see and played didn’t changed anything inside my mind to still say it’s still not worth money at all and things people wanted to come back still ignored. Sure BETA development, but the core game shouldn’t be dead by this years they take.

Compare with a car factory. Developing a new models of cars, all production of old cars is stopped because we need all for the new. Selling none of the old as long as the new ready will force the factory to close. Because people want to buy even if older instead of waiting for a ghost inside a long dark future, nobody knows if it ever happens.

People really need to read this and think hard about this. They’ve had nearly THREE YEARS and the beta seems anemic and rushed! They can keep the paltry extra character slot, the only way I’ll even consider HoT is at a severe discount.

Without knowing the details of manpower and the code the amount of time a developer spends developing something is irrelevant. There are no hard rules over how long software takes to develop.

Well what I can see is a laundry list of features, one PVE map, one WVW map, one PVP map, a class that’s been a work in progress since it’s announcement (they never even got around to making the under water skills that should tell you something); that tells me that they are coding this as they go along and they’re using the pre order money to spear head the development of the expansion which is no where near finished (if it were we would have seen a region map by now with every zone in a rough form at least , and the Rev would have been complete for Beta with only the need of fine tuning, please refer back to my previous statement regarding the underwater skills).

I still hold ANet to the same standards as that other company that has a hold on the MMO industry (even in it’s twilight).

Why not, that other well known company usually displays the map with their expansion announcement at their company’s convention which usually occurs in November?

@Danikat Seeing is believing, unless I know it exists, I have no proof that it does; therefore a pre purchase is a blind investment nothing more, I’m not one of those faith based people, I look for verifiable facts.

HA! ANet won’t even give us a straight answer regarding how many PVE maps we’re getting/names; I doubt map completion is high up on their agenda when they’re actually producing this expansion. If they had a complete working Alpha version of HoT we would know what the Jungle Region looks like, what the zones are, but I believe the only PVE content they have finished is that first PVE map they beta’d, and the 2 Guild Hall maps; the rest are being produced using the kick starter money you guys gave them through the preorder I bet.

I agree if they want my development seed money to finish the actual expansion since I highly doubt they have a complete Alpha version since it feels like they’re still making HOT piece by piece, then they better unveil the list of PVE zones.

I know they think we’re supposed to be focusing on all these amazing features but it seems like they’re saying behold the Porter House Steak Dinner let us tell you about all of the amazing butter, salt, pepper, BBQ sauce, complimentary bisquits/salad bar, drink specials because we all know you didn’t come to a steakhouse expecting us to tell you about the Steak (content), just about the rich plethora of condiments and complimentary sides (features)!

Fernling.1729:

I don’t think Anet should be praised for this. They could have proactively offered this, but no, only when suffering backlash do they make changes. They refused to listen to the people months ago about including a character slot. They are only now including one as damage control.

Come on man put the pitchfork down already; even I changed my tune.

Good enough for me, come on fellow Dredge comrades the strike is over, let us rejoin the collective for the greater good!

SQeeeeee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

F UP, nothing to see here move along.

Random.4691:

Some of us are taking the stand on the principle that they duped people into buying the core edition, were not honest about it (in fact they tried to hide it), some appreciation should be should to those of us who made this expansion possible with our wallets, and basically just don’t be scummy about it. Be up front, listen to us, and for the love of god, give us some form of an explanation.

It’s pretty bad when reviews are asking why they haven’t explained them selves yet.

I read on Reddit that refunds are being offered for at least 2 months, just saying.

xbutcherx.3861:

Robotmoxie.4025:

Dude, read the news! You want a link “proving” something?

https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/

Scroll this page for a WHILE.

You want to hear them talk about their new tech, and what the new classes can do?

https://www.youtube.com/user/arenanetofficial

Browse these videos for A WHILE.

Like, seriously. Follow their content updates! They keep telling us all this stuff that’s going to be in HoT, and people keep missing it because they don’t read the articles.

I’m not here to do your homework for you, but you can do all the homework you want, reading the blog posts and watching the videos to get all caught up on the features.

I’ll say again, Arenanet messed up by not giving us like, a rolling summary page or something, that updates with new features as they talk about them. Nobody knows what the heck’s going into this expansion because you have to read the friggin’ Library of Congress just to get it all figured out!

You really think they going to give you all that in 1 expansion? think again. Probably a year will pass before all that.

Think WoW’s content patches.

It needs to have 5 maps that have 3 biomes, the personal story needs to thread through it all, we need to have enough challenging what/evers to off set the fact that ANet disbanded their dungeon team, it needs at least 3 Teq quality fights, and Mordremoth better be epic.

Well it was a worth a try.

Here’s proof, it’s awesome sauce!

Odds are I’m going to buy the expansion any way, who am I kidding; I just spent $50 on this game in an area with an immediate effect (bought 4k gems and grabbed my self a Volcanus flaming Great Sword which made me forget all about my initial reaction to Tuesday’s announcement.).

So ANet if I bury the hatchet can you guys just come clean about the number of maps that are being rolled out, this would make me feel much more reassured; it’s the least thing you can do since I did my part as a whale and dropped $50 on a flaming sword?

I also posted the link on Massively Over Powereds recent GW2 article, I’ll put it on the GW2 Reddit site as well in case the original author forgot to do so. If we spread it out enough then it will pick up traction.

In case any of you fellow dissenters didn’t see the link keep the signatures coming. I know kitten well I’m going to get slapped by a mod but sometimes taking a hit is worth it for a worthy cause.

https://www.change.org/p/anet-add-one-character-slot-for-all-expansion-purchases-and-offer-a-standalone-hot-expansion-purchase-2b57d70e-fe5e-4ffa-844d-c487e154dc74#petition-letter

I don’t prepurchase games any way, and I definitely wouldn’t prepurchase this on principle because ANet has kept so much basic info under wraps that I don’t even believe the whole expansion is ready for Alpha testing yet let alone Beta; doesn’t it raise some red flags that the game’s available for prepurchase but you don’t know how many maps you’re getting, or a release date, almost makes this feel like a Kickstarter campaign.

Ideally we would like to see changes made prior to the release to make it more reasonable, but then they’ve been playing it so close to the vest that for all I know HOT actually does contain a 100% increase to the base game to justify paying the full price of a game, but I don’t think it does so $30 is much more realistic entry level price; but that’s alright, eventually probably right around the holiday season HOT will be on sale at a discount so I will buy it then for the realistic price point.

I agree $30 is a reasonable price for the base package, after all you’re not paying for 20 plus zones, 4 plus regions, half a dozen dungoens with 3 paths each, a WVWVW map with the equivalent of 5 maps, half a dozen PVP maps.

“Fifty dollars is nothing to an adult. For example…A man with a wife and three kids wants a burger for dinner. He ends up paying about $50 to eat his burger. If he wants an ice cream cone it will cost him around 10-15 dollars. Fifty dollars is nothing.”

Speak for your self $50 is half a days pay for me after taxes, I have quite a few bills that I pay before I can fork over $50 I may or may not have; but when I do spend any of my discretionary income I only do it when I know 100% what I’m paying for, I do not make purchases based on hype, and I do not pay for anything with no release date.

I’m not buying the expansion until I know what’s actually going to be in it, I’ve seen one section of a map (would be nice if I knew how big This Region is with how many zones), one half finished class, a hand full of half finished elite specializations, one small WVW map, a PVP map, and power point presentation bullet list with a bunch of features that have not even been fleshed out (How many new chapters in the personal story, what are these challenging thingys that are replacing dungeons and how many of them are there, will there be new fractals).

Good Morning ANet and fellow players,

After reading numerous complaints and defenders I figured maybe it’s time to weigh in as opposed to commenting after a knee jerk reaction. If you compare HoT pricing to GW1 expansion pricing then HoT is definitely a light over priced package package by those standard.

A GW1 expansion usually included a continent with enough content to justify the cost of an actual game, any new classes included packaged with a free character slot.

HOT includes a Region not a continent, we don’t even know how many zones are in this region, whether it will be Orr sized, or Ascalon sized for example. The Revenant does not come with a character slot.

Consider though that compared to the most financially successful MMO of all time who I shall not name because naming other games tends to get things locked up does charge $50 for what amounts to a 1.5 times GW2 Region. But hey lets face it that company can get away with it because they print money, and it’s been their standard practice for 10 years.

While I respect ANet’s desire to try emulating the expansion business model of the elephant in the room of MMO companies, they need to consider that ANet’s license to print money which is based off of their fan base does not equate to that other company’s license to print money because ANet’s 10 year history of expansion business does not line up with what they are trying to sell here with HOT.

Seems more profitable to vendor it.

I’m sorry for your loss.

I was on reddit earlier today and some one in a thread regarding making money in SW suggested turning plate/leather armor into cloth armor using the Mystic Forge, how does this work?

I’ll wait on the GPU then I assumed that just having an i5 with out the GPU would be better than my rig that has AMD 3.8 with a 650 GeForce card.

I plan on buying my wife a new PC next week.

Includes Inspiron i3847-4617 desktop PC with keyboard, mouse, and setup guide
Windows 8.1 operating system
3.2GHz fourth-generation Intel Core i5-4460 quad-core processor with 6MB cache, up to 3.4GHz
8GB DDR3 1600MHz dual-channel RAM
1TB 7200 RPM SATA hard drive
Tray-load DVD drive
Dell Wireless-N 1705 Wi-Fi
Intel HD Graphics 4600
Integrated 5.1 audio

No GPU yet, the Tom’s Hardware guys seem to think that adding a GPU wouldn’t work because prebuilt MOBOs have Bios that prevent anything after market.

As a Guardian I love the Genesis Hammer skin, I’m looking for a Great Sword Skin that would compliment that so it does not mess with my character’s look when I swap weapons.

Hello every one, my wife needs a new PC that can run GW2 on average settings with reliable performance. We have a budget of 500, neither one of is has any hands on experience building PCs so we would be looking for something prebuilt. If building is our only option has the process been made noob friendly?

Nope, needs more cowbell!

They are not being developed, the team has been gutted, challenging content is being developed for the Jungle using new AI and mechanics, why would the old meta have a place any more in the new PVE?

I’m sure there are hobbiests that will continue to run obsolete content that’s no longer in development but I would hope my Reaper will be more relevant in group content in the jungle.

Apparently you’re living in the past, please provide an ANet link for me that talks about any exciting new developments regarding instanced content?

I understand that these shouts are designed to deal damage, perhaps we could gain support indirectly by having each apply unique debuffs, similar to debuffs provided by Death Knight diseases in WoW.

Why is every one so bugged out by being useful in obsolete content; perhaps you’re not aware that ANet hasn’t developed and new Fractals/Paths for over a year, and none are on the table for HoT because they gutted the team months ago. This specialization is being designed for new open world group encounters.

Numbers may not matter but never use asterisks, moderators find them deeply offensive.

So many white knights.

I’m just concerned that I’ll be hyping my self up to pay for an expansion that’s only twice the size of Dry Top/Silver Wastes; look I don’t need screen shots, or map details but it would be nice if we had a map with specific labeled zones just so we at least have a rough idea of scale.

What we do know is that each zone is like a 3 level layerd cake, so realistically if you were trying to make something the size of a region then ideally you would want something the size of Orr with 3 distinct levels in each of the 3 zones to make it feel like a 9 zone region; if you made it hopping 24/7 with events like Dry Top/Silver Wastes then yes in my opinion that would be worth me spending even as much as $50.

I respect that when your product is complete there will be a release date, I even appreciate the desire to keep fine details secret until something is ready to be tested.

However with that being said.

As a more standard practice in the MMO industry when the first bit of info regarding an expansion is unloaded we usually know how many zones we’re getting, their names, and even a rough map; I could offer names of competitors but I’m sure that might get this post sanctioned so I won’t throw fuel into that fire.

This isn’t a demand for more information simply a request that would fall in line with disclosures from other companies in similar circumstances.

Thank you,
Oldirtbeard.

Nope the weak just die of alcohol poisoning, or go to Jormag (which by the way has a ghetto in Hoelbroeck).

Cbomb.4310:

They’ve actually said absolutely nothing specific about ‘endgame PvE’ in HoT.
Just specializations, a new new WvW map, a new sPvP mode, and for PvE we’re getting a grind so we can hop on mushrooms better.

Heart of Thorns is specifically supposed to be the next step in end game PVE.

Look dude/dudette, this game looks FFing amazing as is; if you want to tweak the appearance then down load GemFX which puts the load on the Video Card (if you want the game to look like a Wooden potatoes video.).

Hell, I wish I had 500 gold!

Do your 3 Dailies, go to the Silver Wastes zone and run the Gauntlet of Events until the World Boss (Vine Wraith). After the previous sentence cash in your Bandit currency for Bandit Chest Keyes and join a Chest farm in Silver Wastes. After the previous sentence you can then do the World Boss gauntlet for preferential treatment toward Tequatl, Karka Queen, Mega Worm [ in Bloodtide Coast], Jormags Claw).

Looking for a PVE Open World Necro Staff Build.

My wife got an email from ANet asking her to verify some one logging in the region listed being China, obviously some one figured out her password but could they still get in if she got the email authentication? I’m wondering if this is connected to the gmail notification she got a week ago where they told her some one from China was trying to log into her email account. She already changed her email password a week ago so perhaps this hacker won’t be able to get in since they can’t accsses the email to authenticate the log in.

Thank you so much!

Every time I try to type something in Guild Chat the game tells me I’m not in a guild; this seems especially disappointing for a bug since this game is called “Guild” Wars 2.

Why does the game say I’m guildless? I can’t use Guild Chat, if Guild Chat is broken in ’GUILD" Wars you might have some credibility issues; just saying?