Guild Wars 2

foofad’s build both brings more dps and a lot more utility than an AH build, it’s basically better than strife’s build in every single way

healing sucks go zerker

‘everyone is entitled to their own opinion’ in his reply. There is no opinion that 20k health
2.5k un-buffed attack and altruistic healing is good, that is just wrong. He is so bad it makes my upset. The way he emphasises his condition damage, at that point I lost all faith

I mele archdivinier in pugs on lv 49 on my full zerker s/f guardian so cliffside really isn’t a problem, but dredge… dredge… is a pain to say the least. A ton of un-avoidable 1 hit kill attacks coming your way!

contested dungeons are a kitten feature anet did to annoy us

in gw2 you got full dps while using means of utility to keep people alive better, in pve there is no such thing as tanking and defensive gear is useless because in low end pve (just dungeons) they are face rollable anyway, and in say fractals 40+ stuff 1 hits you anyway so full dps is best

bear bow op everywhere.. rangers are meant to be ranged, stuff people thinking sword is good need to learn to play

No I’m not joking I think he actually has issues. Have you heard the way he talks

Well boon duration is not ‘needed’ in pve but for some builds it can add a lot to them. In my opinion any form of boon duration on any guardian build is nice

He also said power is one of the worst stats compared to precision and critical damage when it is the best scaling, honestly he is a very bad player

I think I commented on that video saying how it has under half the effective power and less support than a proper guardian build lol

such banter, much funny

Zach.3264:

Painbow.6059:

Zach.3264:

Stop with the “AH is for new people” already..
It’s in the grandmaster line. No where does it state “this is for new players only”.
It’s a trait, it’s there to be used by anyone who wants to.

It’s like saying only new players use Selfless Daring because they don’t have any friends to heal them.

I really do think half of you forget that there are a large portion who play MMO’s for enjoyment, and not to fuel their ego about being “best” or “better” than others. If someone wants to play AH then let them, there’s nothing wrong with it whatsoever.

Because while your team is suffering to get out enough damage to kill stuff fast enough you are sitting happy with your useless skill less build not giving a fudge about anything. Being a guardian is about being a ‘selfless defender’ not a self-healing-waste-of-potential. If you want to play AH in pve go ahead but just know that it’s like a wet fish flopping on the side of a boat

Not at all. I run AH in Fractals all the time and it’s great. My damage is still decent and I can survive easily enough to continue to do damage/heal others.
Plus, I run Hammer, when traited I can have my auto-attack symbol down 100% of the time if I don’t use #2. This applies constant -33% damage to my group.
And again.. you’re forgetting, not everyone plays to be as effective as possible, some people actually play for enjoyment, you know?

If you enjoy to suck, I play fractals in pugs up to max with full glass cannon no problem. You can run 15,15,0,20,20 with hammer, be more useful and deal more damage

Zach.3264:

Stop with the “AH is for new people” already..
It’s in the grandmaster line. No where does it state “this is for new players only”.
It’s a trait, it’s there to be used by anyone who wants to.

It’s like saying only new players use Selfless Daring because they don’t have any friends to heal them.

I really do think half of you forget that there are a large portion who play MMO’s for enjoyment, and not to fuel their ego about being “best” or “better” than others. If someone wants to play AH then let them, there’s nothing wrong with it whatsoever.

Because while your team is suffering to get out enough damage to kill stuff fast enough you are sitting happy with your useless skill less build not giving a fudge about anything. Being a guardian is about being a ‘selfless defender’ not a self-healing-waste-of-potential. If you want to play AH in pve go ahead but just know that it’s like a wet fish flopping on the side of a boat

Ninoslav.1259:

Thanks for reply, I’m used to play a full healer builds in other mmorpg games but look’s like that game play is not possible with GW2. , will have to adjust to a different play stile.

Oh yeah, also avoid the valor trait line. The most you will want in it is 10 for str in numbers, the others are selfish

Yeah i’d agree with you there Cpt, I just find s/f much easier and mobile cause of blinds/blocks/flashing blade ect

But as the same time it’s not good to rely on protection for survival.

Check out the hammer builds on the link I posted Ninoslav, one of them uses healing symbols which you may like, personally though 15,15,0,20,20 is my favorite bet for hammer

The amount of people who still use AH kind of scares me. There is no debate it is a bad trait and in pve it wastes a ton of your dps potential.
Honestly I think even new players don’t need the kind of sustain from AH builds.
Here is a guide on the forums for players who are maybe not good but average:
http://www.guildwars2guru.com/topic/84424-the-new-guardian-anchor-build/
the build guides there have moderate-good dps

But really there is no scenario in pve that requires you to waste 30 valuable trait points in valor

Yeah being a healer isn’t a thing. In moderation you can dish out some heal/protection support with some ish dps:
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/guardian/A-Brief-Guide-to-a-Healing-Power-Hybrid/first#post3400752
You could try that build.

But the meta is full dps (zerker gear) with 10,30,0,5,25, that is currently your best bet. But as you are new I would suggest going with a dps build with some more defensive gear until you switch it out when you get more experienced

i use 10,30,0,5,25 in pugs anyway cause they often range a lot of bosses and the scepter hits much harder with the s/f build than with the hammer build

Fistful Of Bacon.3046:

Pve isnt about taking hits, its about avoiding them, making them miss, and redirecting them. As much power as you get with full valor line and soldier runes, its not good for pve to have such low crit dmg and chance, and losing it for toughness and vit isnt a great idea. Anything worth doing in pve will basically 1hit you regardless of toughness, vit can help sometimes, but isnt worth putting in that much. The exception would be world bosses, because some of them do so much you cant really stand close for more than a second or 2 with low guard vit.

To sum it up, guards have amazing skills and utilities that help keep them from getting hit, so focus on high damage, while using supportive utilities and traits that will keep you from being hit.

this is actually perfect, guardian is about avoiding damage through blocks, aegis, reflects and reducing it through protection, I run fractals any level and at about 36-38+ anything is going to 1 hit you anyway. The rest of pve is a breeze with full zerker, fractals is too with a good team

I really don’t see why people are comparing this to full dps builds, yes of course it’s going to deal less damage. But for pugs you could really be onto something. If you provide permanent protection with strong amounts of prot/regen good condition removal mid dps and vulnerability the only thing you are really lacking is might, but I understand in this build writ of merciful>empowering might.

InfernoHero.5687:

As an AH, EM, and Pure of Voice user, The people here have forgotten one thing:

PUGs.

As a 0/0/30/30/10 guardian, you become one of the best anchors in the group. On top of that, you’re curing as many conditions as you want to take the heat off of other group members.

The 2 War, 2 Mes, 1 Guard group setup works best with my build. If everyone goes down, I can stay up.

Tanking isn’t a mechanic and so it’s impossible to be an anchor. Also your build doesn’t really offer any support through blinds, strong condition removal (unless you go pov + soldier runes), any vulnerability and just to top it all off awful dps.

Using AH in pve just makes you think you are doing good when infact you are getting carried by your team. I pug all the time and AH guards are a joke

well it that case the constant procs of might will heal you yes there is a synergy between the two traits

Amins.3710:

Painbow.6059:

Amins.3710:

Painbow.6059:

AH in pve is designed for babies who can’t reach the dodgeroll key

quit being a kitten bag.

It’s getting old.

Obviously he’s new and that’s why he’s asking.

so use a dps build with more defensive gear and don’t rely on a trait to keep you alive

There…

Wasn’t that easier than being a kitten? If you’re so good at the PvE, be insightful and share your “epic elite skillz” in a way in which people will respect you.

Be a kitten and no one will make note of anything but that.

AH is junk so I was trying to deter him from using it, i’m not a pro at pve either, but AH is awful and shouldn’t be used

Amins.3710:

Painbow.6059:

AH in pve is designed for babies who can’t reach the dodgeroll key

quit being a kitten bag.

It’s getting old.

Obviously he’s new and that’s why he’s asking.

so use a dps build with more defensive gear and don’t rely on a trait to keep you alive

I melee bosses if i can in s/f but if my entire party just ranges them then i swap to scepter focus and do the same. I use sword/focus with scepter/focus on offhand because people range a lot in high levels. You could use shield instead of focus but it isn’t as good

AH in pve is designed for babies who can’t reach the dodgeroll key

Valor is pretty useless, generally only one shout is used (retreat) so it’s not worth it, 1% damage per boon is just a bonus really.

Try 10,30,0,5,25 with s/f. Your build doesn’t pick up condition removal. You sacrifice a lot for strength in numbers

I’m all for zerker but that actually looks very impressive, good work, gives far more support than the standard AH builds or cleric builds as well as putting out decent party heals and vulnerability for your party to sit back on

retreat, aegis > protection for stopping burst attacks/preventing heavy damage, protection for longer fights and against heavy damage prior to battle you can also use virtue of courage for protection instead of using hold the line

The reason I don’t ever invite guardians so parties is because I am one myself and 99% of the time using a better build so I never have to invite a cleric or a support guardian. You have to understand that looking at traits guardian is designed to give lots of support while retaining high dps. 20 points in virtues is enough support for any pve situation

by itself hammer is better. but GS/s/f rotation is better than hammer for most scenarios

Even though stacking helps avoid loads of attacks and makes reflects/boon sharing a lot easier? as well as the enemies being easily accessible too. Not to mention line of sight. Personally if i’m running with guildies or sometimes even pugs i will go non stack a boss dodge rolling around the floor. E.g in coe p1 i might screw up alpha because its fun using dodgerolls + blinding blade with perma vigor to avoid all the attacks even the spikes and firey hand of doom. You can also do it in AC. Basically stacking is very important and it helps a lot. for things like FGS especially (fiery great sword)

One is for light armor and one is for heavy. As a warrior you want HEAVY armor so use the draconic one. The 30,25,0,0,15 build right now is the best build and the gearing is full berserker. If at first you want a bit of extra sustain use knights armor with zerker trinkets, but as you get better that will not be necessary. You can also get zerker armor from dungeon tokens in various dungeons for free. For example, citadel of flame armor, crucible of eternity and arah

CptAurellian.9537:

If you just want to explore the open world, it does not matter. No one else is negatively affected by it and both stats are more or less on the same level of ineffectiveness, so take what you want. However, one thing for you to think about: neither of the two stats helps you to kill all those harmless mobs outside any faster.

And if you plan to do some dungeons, it’s pretty simple: Vita and toughness are 99% useless, healing power is 90% useless (unless you are in an utterly bad group) and full offensive is the way to go.

This.

there is obviously going to be good warriors, but on warrior you just cycle through rotation, on guard you do the same while watching other peoples health bars, timing aegis, using reflects at the right time

yeah i gotta agree, i tried my friend war when i went round his, he uses the standard 30,25,0,0,15 build. I didn’t even bother dodging half the time as the signet is so op, just stood there and cycle through rotations, warrior is such a brain dead boring class

you guys obviously don’t play much.. pvt bear bow is the best pve build right now. if not that then cleric staff guardian

agreed with norjena again, the axe doesn’t suite guardian theme in my opinion, in fact before reading her comment I thought brutal myself which doesn’t strike me about guard

BobbyT.7192:

Nick.6972:

Is it just me or is this “Zerker only or leave” thing only on official forums?
Almost 1000 hour total playtime and no one has ever asked me to ping my gear.
Weird.

pretty sure it’s a forum thing, people posting on here thinking they are better then everyone else.

It’s not that that people think they are better than everyone else, it’s that people want others not to suck. If you play full clerics or full tanky I will tell you that you are bad in pve because it is the truth

I never kick anyone because of their gear but if there is a full soldiers guardian in my team using AH i will tell them why they suck

guard dps and war dps is actually very similar so don’t choose one for more dps, but to be honest if i wasn’t running guard in all the pugs i play people would wipe a lot more cuz of reflects/aegis ect

Most of us care as we don’t want unskillful leechers auto attacking with staff feeling good about themselves

I nearly rage quit in fractals 34 on dredge with the mistlock instability which made hits from the side or behind 50% more I think… and since they fixed it too it was a right pain in the kitten . I probably shouted random abuse in real life at arena net about 10 times. It took us 2 hours and I grabbed my jumper and threw it at a draw knocking over a load of frames. But we did it eventually. Then at the end chest of jade I got a cleric ring. GG anet.

Guard is 10,30,0,5,25 with s/f and GS rotation (this is for basically everything)
But hammer is better for fractals 40+ (apparently, I’m working my way up a level a day and I am 36 right now will probably still use s/f cause I love it)
for protection I guess:
15,15,0,20,20
Obal has some of the top guides on guardian and for more profession videos check out Nike’s Q and A guides on youtube I know brazil has the hammer guardian guide and the updated ranger guide, rest are on nike’s if I’m not mistaken

Celestial is all round great for wvw, but for roaming a mediation dps focused build would be superior

VidGhost.3215:

Painbow.6059:

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fUAQBgCJnhIhgWPAoDyfqKEP4CA

thanks But wouldn’t this make me a super Glass cannon.. kinda helpful to stay live
is mediation healing better then AH ?

Depends on your dodgeroll ability

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fUAQBgCJnhIhgWPAoDyfqKEP4CA

what ice said everyone would go to mesmer pretty much, in terms of support they are very similar to guard