Guild Wars 2

Tyrion.8632:

Well u and me dont chare the same aspect of the game what uve been writing is one thing but the one thing u said about the sharing part is mostly for minor guild that doesnt have any other choice but to represent other guilds to get the maximum enjoyment of this game… u know why… because they will not have a chance to become a solid guild whit the ground that 5 guild representation gives them

You really and completely don’t understand, do you? It’s like when I met someone in PvP who couldn’t grasp the idea of having fun there even if you’re losing.

Tyrion.8632:

so whats the point in Guild in Guildwars more then repping 5 guilds and be all over the place? why not just convert this to console and everyne can enjoy their time in peace.

You seem overly focused on the importance of Guilds and being part of one. Just because you’re running around solo doesn’t mean you’re not enjoying the social aspects of the game. You can jump in and help someone kill a monster, or take on a world boss with everyone else in the area. You can revive someone, or get revived. You can talk and maybe even joke with the people in map chat. You can see cool looking characters, and maybe try to improve on the look yourself.

Guilds are not the important part of the game. They’re just one way to get to it. For some people, they’re not the best way. The guild chat changes will just give more options to people, make the game more flexible in the social aspects, so more people can have fun.

https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/guild-halls-taken-from-the-enemy/

While the Initiative Headquarters is not a full guild hall, it will provide access to existing features that we’re moving out of the guild panel for those guilds that do not upgrade to the expansion.

It sounds like, if you have them before HoT goes live, you’ll keep them and be able to access them at the Initiative Headquarters, but ONLY there.

If you don’t have them before hand, or want to expand them after HoT goes live, it sounds like you’ll need a guild hall.

SkyShroud.2865:

but the guild has war room…

That’s a very good point, actually….

Tyrion.8632:

ofc there will be a guild for anything… but what about that guild… that u accualy has a guildhall whit… or should u have 5 guildhalls and join them when ever u choose, then whats the point of joining a fight and claim ure guildhall? where is th dedication and guild feeling?

Different people will approach this in different ways. But what I think you’re missing is that not all guilds will be … well, Guilds.

Chat-only guilds will not need a guild hall. They will not need you to represent them. They’re just a way to create a chat channel for a group of people to talk to each other. They’ll never be your main guild, nor do they need to be.

When this goes live, you’ll see an upsurge of guilds made JUST for chatting, I think.

Group of friends that want to chat while they play whatever parts of the game they enjoy? Guild.

People that want to talk about anime? Guild.

Roleplayers, especially those centered on a specific part of the game or lore? Guild.

Group of people that like to do flash mob type of events in games? Guild.

Fanfic writers wanting to debate if they should ship Logan with Eir or Rytlock? Guild.

New guilds that people never (or almost never) rep, they just use them to chat though. Once the idea catches on, we may find that 5 isn’t enough…

rapthorne.7345:

RabbitUp.8294:

JUN YANG.4328:

what happen will city of heroes? i knew the game are dead but how?

NCsoft pulled the plug. The developers were excellent, the game itself was making small but steady profit for them, but they had bigger fish to fry and GW2’s not-so-successful launch to fund.

I adore CoH and played it for years (And support the development of city of titans), but there can be no denying that it was not making good profit. Revenue? yes. Profit? No.

They even switched to a freemium model to try and boost earnings and they still didn’t meet the mark thus, despite the huge community support, they got shut down.

GW2 is arguably one of the top 5 most successful and stable MMORPG’s in the west right now, CoH was a niche game for a niche market that only in recent years has expanded to a far wider audience (ie, the Superhero fandom and it’s explosive growth in recent years)

It’s more that all the attempts to sway NCSoft to spare or at least sell CoH were unsuccessful in the end. And if all those big attempts to save CoH failed, then what hope do the people upset about the HoT pricing have with NCSoft?

Windsagio.1340:

I honestly can’t tell who’s joking any more.

“A moral Duty?”

really?

It’s a fantasy that some like to believe. Even I used to believe it, back in a different game.

The fact is that ANet has no moral duty to us. They are a business, we are the customers. That’s it. They could rise above and beyond that, but have chosen not to and have shown that well before now. People need to remember that.

People ALSO need to remember that they have no moral duty to ANet, either. There is no requirement that you do anything to help them in any way. Support the game with gems? Don’t need to. Give it good press? Don’t need to. Report a bug/exploit you found? Don’t need to. (Just don’t abuse/use it, either.) You may want to, and ANet would LOVE for you to feel that you need to, but it’s their mess to deal with. Not yours.

There is no moral duty here. However … you are the person you are. We’re not required to be better than them, but we can still choose to be so. No matter how upset I may be at ANet right now, tonight I plan to log into the game and be nice to my fellow players, and make fairly calm posts on the forums. The only moral duty is to ourselves, let’s make a better choice about it than ANet has.

P.S. : Sorry, that kind of went WAY off topic, didn’kitten

MashMash.1645:

Facts first please ANet – I don’t pay on hype and promises.

And where have they actually “promised” HoT will arrive? You know that with the iterative development process they use that plans can change, and nothing is off the table. Just because they say something is coming doesn’t mean it is.

::evil grin::

Like you, I’m waiting for more facts, then I’ll decide.

neonis.3974:

All I have to say is City of Heroes.

And that pretty much says it all.

Well, it did say that they’ll be selling it through Best Buy, GameStop, and one other place that I don’t recall. You can’t get the most expensive version that way, but the other two are supposed to be there as of sometime before the end of this month.

(They gave a date, but I don’t recall what it was.)

If you wait, you might miss a beta event that won’t have much more than what we’ve seen before. So, no real harm in waiting for a bit and then seeing if any stores near you have it for prepurchase.

Random.4691:

Wow

Way to show your customers your true colors. I’m curious if this is legal also ?

I’m pretty sure that it is. They can say that they later decided to add in GW2 free with HoT, and changed the FAQ to reflect that.

And for all we know, it WAS a last minute decision to do so.

I’m not saying that I like it, but it’s nothing to waste a lawyer’s time over.

Apolo.5942:

Nostromo.4126:

Ummm, are they not a Korean company ultimately…?

Are they really? i always said this game looks like it was 80% outsourced to asia from the mechanics to the aesthetic design, i feel so vindicated =P.

No, they’re not.

They’re an American company financed by NCSoft (A Korean company), their publisher in most of the world. They have to answer to NCSoft, but ANet is American.

John Smith.4610:

You rang?

Knocked, actually. You guys never answer the doorbell.

But while you’re here, I do wish to ask a question of you: Will there be a lower priced version of the expansion for those that already have GW2?

I realize that the answer may well be “It’s still under discussion” or “Not for preorder”. And I’m okay with that. I just want to know if the three preorder versions are the final, set in stone choices and the only choices we’ll have.

It looks like the answer will be “no”, but I’ve been wrong before.

That does seem to be an improvement over what we currently have.

I think it would be better to give a skin that gives googly eye glasses for head gear.

Headcase.4618:

Hoax or not, does anyone use the spray anymore, post Nightmare Tower?

I do, but very rarely. It still has its uses, as the toxic spore events still happen. Perhaps they’ll be removed as well.

Infenso.6329:

Linnael.1069:

inb4 the people with no reasoning spam this with “but da griefers” “but da pvp” “but checking off autoignore is too hard”

o wait looks like they beat me here.

I like how so many seem to be opposed to this, but give no reason at all as to why. Just a flat out no and nothing more.

It’s because we’re tired of giving our reasons for it time and time again. This suggestion keeps popping up, like mount threads do, and keeps getting shot down.

Yes, there are ways to make it possibly work, and not get too much onto the nerves of those that don’t want it. Some still hate the idea, just as some would hate the restrictions that come with doing it that way.

In the end though, ANet has heard/read all the arguments back and forth on this. In the notes about the upcoming major update, you can see what they’ve decided to do with those ideas.

Conski Deshan.2057:

It’s not power creep either ,its a redistribution of the stats lost from the trait changes… , As long as a person with the highest tier of armor does not have to do any new work it’s nothing like adding a new gear tier. Technically everyone should be working towards ascended anyway as one of the games basic goals. It just wasn’t mandatory (still isn’t)

It’s more of an increase than any other tier of gear is getting, so it’s not just a redistribution of the stats lost from the trait changes.

The small amount to be gained by going from exotic to ascended was actually presented as a point in its favor when it was introduced. It made it very optional, easily ignored by people that didn’t want to bother with it. Now it’s less optional, especially given that they’re supposed to be adding “challenging group content” with HoT.

ANet took two steps to do what most MMOs do in one, and it IS the first step on a “gear treadmill”. The important question now is “Will they take another step?” IF they stop here, it’s ugly but survivable.

BrooksP.4318:

They should however complete the set and add legendary armor and be done with it. They can either do the same +buff/changeable stats, or just do a really good skin(not the crap ascended that looks like a filler) and make the stats changeable.

I’d prefer that they make Legendary armor look just like the starting armor, and save the cool skins for armor gained another way. Weapons are enough of a “legendary look”, we don’t need it for armor too.

Varezenem.2813:

Conski Deshan.2057:

This change is not a treadmill:
Ascended is still the highest tier, your existing ascended armor is still the best armor.

And as far as we know it will be easier to acquire in HoT

And as far as we know it will be harder to acquire in HoT.

Don’t forget, every new zone they’re adding is level 80, no lower level drops to provide the lower tier materials for making new ascended gear. With more players focused in those zones, supplies will go down and costs will go up.

Gibson.4036:

They’ve always said that even though they will never add another tier of gear beyond ascended, they are commited to gradual vertical progression. For years, the ascended forum defenders have been trumpeting the first and conveniently ignoring the latter.

Actually, I recall them saying that they wouldn’t add another tier of gear for now, and that was over a year ago. I think the time limit on that has expired, and when it comes to adding in a new equipment tier “nothing is off the table”.

penelopehannibal.8947:

Bolbo Baggins.8594:

I normally dont have problems with RP-ers, until last week when 10 of them from a certain rp guild upscaled an event i was doing and contributed nothing. They kept walking around there (Calledon forest, Scrit area with the ruins) for 30 minutes. Had to collect 100 datacrystals to get the event done and kill zilions of skritt.

Oh wow. It must have been a nightmare for you, being forced to finish that event, and all that extra loot you would have had to carry too! My word!

Seriously though, this thread is about someone trying to get into the RP community. It’s not about why RPers are such terrible people to you, so I don’t understand why you had to post this other than to seize an opportunity to have a go at a style of fun you don’t understand.

Actually, their post brings up a good point as to another reason why RPers can be hard to find sometimes.

With events all over the place outside of the main cities, it’s hard to find good RP gathering points that don’t cause problems for others. Many of us do try to be considerate of people actively playing, and want to avoid doing things like leveling up events that we’re not helping to clear.

It makes finding good RP spots hard, and when we do find them they tend to be out of view of most players. It’s part of why there’s so many RPers in the cities and not out in the world at large.

Do NOT use them!

When the change hits, skills and traits will be purchased with “Hero Points”, which will be gained by leveling up and by doing the skill points on the map (they’ll be renamed with the change).

Your characters will be given Hero Points according to their current level and any of the skill/hero challenge points they’ve done. Any “excess” points will be turned into the new mystic forge currency, the same as the skill scrolls.

If you use the scrolls now and buy skills, you’re effectively throwing those points away. You won’t be refunded for points you’ve gained from scrolls and spent, as the game has no record of if you’ve spent them on skills or mystic forge stuff. So unless you REALLY need to unlock some skills before the changes next week, just hold on to the scrolls.

Bye bye!

But, before you go… Do please realize that there WILL be changes after this goes live and they see if things play out as expected or not. Even if you don’t want to stick around and be a part of that, it may be a good idea to check back in from time to time and see if adjustments have been made that would restore your enjoyment.

Those of us that stay can attempt to give them reasoned feedback to improve things, and if something’s not working right we can show them what, how, and why. We can’t force them to change things, but we may be able to convince them.

Thanks, that’s the information I was really hoping to hear!

MashMash.1645:

I’m sort of surprised they haven’t added more things like hearts, etc to new maps, and added new map completions. They wouldn’t need to be necessary for the gifts, but would give new achievements for people to get. You could even have separate tracks for them, with some items as a reward. Given exploration is a big deal with gw2 and all.

Now they can have events unlock merchants that sell special items, or have the events just drop special items (if the RNG gods love you), and have those part of a collection to give the same results.

Karluum.8019:

I will attempt to play without macros by being creative with a gaming mouse, and if it isn’t possible then I’ll just have to put GW2 on the pile of games I can’t play. Presumeably as someone who enjoys the game yourself you can understand my disappointment, and my wanting to see if anyone knew what the rules actually are.

Thanks for taking the time to answer.

I know it’s not an answer to your question, but have you considered looking into a foot control? There seems to be several different styles and I’m sure at least one of them might be of help.

eduardo.1436:

CrimsonDX.4821:

It would be cool to see more of our old friends whether it is in the personal story, or just out in the world. It is always fun seeing Lord Faren.

Lord Faren is confirmed to appear in the expansion

Is he?

If you’re talking about the point on the map that’s named after him, that might have only been named in (dis)honor of him. Or it could be a placeholder name.

Heart of Thorns will be, ironically, heartless.

Revenants are missing the most obvious legend of all.

Think about who’s going to be the first: Rytlock Brimstone. The charr warrior. Now, think back to charr heroes of legend, and one REALLY stands out. Especially with Rytlock being in the position of trying to gather forces, get them to work together, and stand against a huge threat to them all.

That’s right. The Kahn-Ur. The legendary leader of the charr that shaped who they are today, much like Ventari did for the sylvari. And yet, there’s no sign of this legend anywhere! Why? This would be one of the FIRST Rytlock would channel, I would think.

Can anyone come up with a good reason why he’s not one of the legends a Rev can channel?

I’ll hope for something like the CoH base system, but with lessons learned from that.

There were many decorative objects of all kinds, but their best use came when the added in two changes: The ability to rotate them and raise/lower them, and the ability to ignore clipping when placing them.

People were always finding new ways to combine things and make new objects after that, and it lead to some amazing creations.

Mortifer.2946:

okay, so there is no reason to spend my skill point scrolls… QQ. I don’t like losing progress. I didn’t ask for it.

Nobody did, really. But I think this is a good change for the long run. It will allow them to do things like the Elite Specializations, the old system wasn’t really made to grow gracefully.

Hidori.3472:

However it takes maybe 2-3 minutes until it starts to play.

I think you’re mistaken there.

It starts to play pretty much right away, but there’s something wrong with it. It sounds like it loops AND starts over, and slowly layers atop itself again and again. So you barely notice it at first, but it grows to this constant and senseless noise.

Randulf.7614:

Isn’t that the orchestra thing playing? You are near it’s location on that screenie I think

It plays even in the home instance, and gets ungodly annoying!

Donari.5237:

Right now you will be wasting your scrolls if you unlock anything because it’s all about to change as described above. After the change, any skill points you have beyond leveling to 80 and doing skill challenges, and any scrolls, will turn into spirit shards and be in your wallet.

As a side note: If you have a character that has skill points from leveling/skill challenges just sitting there, spend them on any MF crafting supplies you want before the update. You’ll get those points back during the reset, but should keep the items.

Tofu.1978:

What happens now when two armies are fighting near a lord in wvw with no other npc’s around and a necro epidemics the lord?

I expect it will result in loud, evil laughter from the necro.

It is an interesting point, though. I guess people will have to learn to worry more about the conditions on the NPCs and cleanse them if they get too many. Or stay away from them.

Drarnor Kunoram.5180:

Givers weapons exist.

And “cc durations like fear?” Try only Fear.

Taunt is coming in HoT, so that’s two.

If you have level 80 characters, it may be worth checking to see if they’ve all done the part of the season 2 LS that gives a key as a reward.

I don’t think they can, because you need to be able to add it into crafting recipes. It needs to be a physical object (so to speak) like any other crafting supply.

Sorry.

I’ll do my best.

They’ve not said it, but it’s safe to assume that everyone’s skills (and traits) will be reset when the changes hit. It’s the only way to do it without potentially breaking some things.

You’ll earn “Hero Points” as you level up and as you take on the skill point challenges (soon to be renamed). When the change hits, each character will be set to the correct amount of Hero Points based on those two things, and any excess skill points they have will be turned into spirit shards.

There will be “tracks” that you can spend hero points in to unlock trait lines and skill lines. Warriors, for example, will have banners and shouts as two of their skill lines. As you spend hero points in a line, you unlock the skills in it, starting with the weaker ones (the ones that cost one skill point now) and going up to the elite skill for that line. All class skills that do not seem to be part of a line are getting a slight adjustment and put into a line.

Trait lines will unlock in a similar way.

Gaile Gray.6029:

SiegHawk.5684:

I am sure that many of us will enjoy fighting him. Alot.

Fighting? Or killing? Because I can’t tell you the number of times I’d have liked to throttle that cagey creature!

Wanze.8410:

First Disney ruined Star Wars, now Guild wars.

Did… did you ever see what Lucas did to it? Or are you maybe repressing that memory?

Disney will at least try to give fans what they want. Lucas gave us what HE wanted.

As to stuff in the corner, it’s more likely to be stuff for the “Dev Menu”.

Enrif.7359:

maybe 3 or 4 or more? magical floating swords you know….
https://youtu.be/oNqyV-E0hv0?t=22

I’d rather see 8-10, Dead Fantasy 6 style.

But I expect it to be one, main hand only.

Conncept.7638:

It seems as if they are designing this class to meet a certain minimum of playability rather than making it as awesome as they can.

That puts into words some of the bad feelings I’ve been having. Thank you.

“Oh, my shiny thing isn’t shiny enough! If only I’d made a slightly shinier thing, then people would notice and love me!”

No, we won’t. We’ve seen them all by now, and only the BLC ticket ones are any surprise these days. We don’t need to ask what it is or how to get it. A sword just won’t do it, and those glowing surfboards that people use for legendary greatswords are actually kind of annoying to be around.

If you really want your character to stand out, you need to stop and think about the ENTIRE look. Skin/fur/leaves. Hair. Clothes. Weapons. They ALL need to work together if you really want to catch people’s attention. Otherwise, you’re just slapping shiny bits on because they’re shiny.

Will it be the end? No. But if it does poorly, I can see it being the end of people taking this game as a serious contender. One side effect of that will be NCSoft giving them less support.

Mind you, that’s IF it does poorly.

CureForLiving.5360:

Palador.2170:

At 7, you can use underwater weapons while mounted, allowing you to fight while riding.

I’d prefer mounts specific weapons though. Like lances!
Now that I think about it, this could be very interesting. Possible specialisations? A new form of combat (along side underwater and land)? Wish I wasn’t so lazy, could probably have done a big wall of text. Would be fun in WvW, think of two waves of cavalry charging into it each.

Just to be clear, my post was a joke.

With that said, the fact that spears are the most lance-like weapons in the game is what gave me the idea for that part. Tridents could fit the same role for spell casters. Harpoon guns from horseback, however, would be stupid.

cocowoushi.7150:

Palador.2170:

Seeing a post from ANet on RP is pretty kitten ed laughable, but whatever…

>Clearly not into RP.
>Comes into an RP related Thread.

Lol ok.

Actually, I’m quite into RP. It’s just that ANet’s choices often seem to hit like fingernails on a blackboard for RPers.

Ever try to RP with a mesmer that is using the skill that gives them a random buff every 10 seconds, with a chance to say something when it fires off? Well, it sounds like the Rev will be like that, but we can’t just unslot a skill to make them shut up while RPing.

And Rytlock trained us? I know that there’s not supposed to be a ton of them (just as there’s only one First Commander of the Pact), but he’s really going to just pick out some random charr/human/asura/norn/sylvari and train them personally? As far as that goes, why in any god’s name would he return and train a sylvari at all?

Megaservers.

Town clothes into tonics. Given that some of the town clothes already worked much like outfits (overwriting the other slots’ appearances when you equipped the chest), they could have made outfits and town clothes work on the same system. Or at least turned the town clothes into outfits.

And let’s not forget the ungodly chat/emote range in this game.

So, yes. I feel it’s laughable. Especially when it’s a post where they come in and tell us how the Rev will work, and it’s pretty RP-dysfunctional. I get the feeling that most RPers are going to just discard large chunks of what they’ve said and make stuff up for themselves. As usual.

Seeing a post from ANet on RP is pretty kitten ed laughable, but whatever…

And they’re going to talk to themselves if they’re standing around? Wow, glad we got THAT added in, it’ll make RP so much better, right? Then again, maybe after the 50th time you run into yet another Rev having a chat with invisible Glint while standing in the bar, you’ll learn to tune it out.