Guild Wars 2

New example: Mr Mage likes to use a staff. He’s level 80, and he has a good staff, but he’d like a better one. Now, he knows that if he tosses 4 rare staves into the Mystic Forge, he’ll get a different magic staff out. So, that’s what he does. Every time he gets a magic staff, he compares it to his current one. He equips the best, and holds on to the other until he has 4 spares, then tosses them into the forge for a “reroll” in the hopes of getting just the stats he wants.

One day, it doesn’t spit out a rare staff. It spits out an exotic staff. Needless to say, this doesn’t seem right at all. Hoping to not get banned, he destroys the staff, and reports the bug. That’s the right thing to do, right?

Hey all! Do you know what a “Skinner Box” is? If not, watch this (or at least the first half of it).

Now, take a look at the Black Lion Chests. Yep, that’s a Skinner Box. And while I hate to admit it, they’re effective. They’re more than likely going to get more money this way than if they simply offered the tickets for direct purchase, even at a higher price.

The problem is, there’s a threshold where you decide the button/action isn’t working. That it’s never going to pay out. At that point, the engagement turns into embitterment, and they walk away, sometimes to never return. They feel cheated, robbed of time and money. And perhaps for good reason, too.

They say it’s a fine line between love and hate. Well, in this case, that’s true. And RNG stuff like this can push people over that line, from loving the game to hating it. So the next time they put something like this into the game, realize what might happen if you chase after it. Decide if it’s really worth it, of if you’d be better off just ignoring it.

Personally? I love the look of many of those weapons, but I don’t want to burn out on the game due to bad luck. So, I’m going to just ignore them and keep right on playing.

You’ll get to work tomorrow, and find that your computer’s fried.

She’s an odd looking charr that winds up with an odd looking pet. I have no problems with that.

If this look somehow becomes the norm for charr females, THEN I’ll have a problem with it. The occasional odd looking charr’s bound to happen, though.

Demented Sheep.1642:

Now I think a lot of people use it purposefully as a joke… or this community just cusses a ridicules amount normally.

I have. In a recent thread, I referred to the Mystic Forge/Mystic Toilet as “the Mystic Kitten Flusher”. It works on several levels.

I’m going to pass on reading the entire thread, and simply give you my answer as I see it.

Is GW2 doing well? No.

Both GW2 and Arena Net are very successful at the moment. However, that’s not the same as doing WELL. ANet is stuck with NCSoft, well known for killing games. GW2 has a list of problems that are not being correctly addressed, for whatever reason. Both GW2 and ANet as a whole are pushing forward, using momentum to keep things going and growing.

This is like a person using caffeine and energy drinks to keep themselves going. It works, and it can work pretty darned well. However, what you’re avoiding keeps building up, and eventually you can’t keep going anymore and you crash. I don’t think it’ll happen this year, but sometime in the next 2 or so, the GW2 team will take a look at the game and say something along the lines of “My god, how did it get like this?” When that day comes, it won’t be pretty.

Toy Soldier and Plush Griffon tonics from Wintersday allow you to jump and they’re pretty small. I’ve been told the Princess Doll tonics allow jumping as well, but I can’t confirm that.

If you can’t use them for another character, salvage it, or sell it to a vendor, then toss it into the Mystic Kitten Flusher and see what happens. If even that isn’t an option, then you have to decide if you want to hold onto them in case new options are added later, or if you just want to destroy them.

Direngrey.8376:

Let me just say, it pays to pay attention to gw2lfg posts, and I can’t be anymore clear.
We ( my guild ) posted on lfg, that those who join WILL be kicked AT THE END of the instance.

Upon arriving inside, we asked if they read the lfg post. They said “yes” it was a guardian and thief.

NEAR THE END, they were kicked, and they kept whispering us why they were kicked out.

Note the bolded parts. Kicked at the end? That’s fine. Boss and rewards come before the end.

Near the end, before the boss and rewards? That’s different. Very, very different. It’s the difference between getting your paycheck when they’re done filling it out, and getting it when they’re NEARLY done filling it out, say while it’s still unsigned/unauthorized.

And no this isn’t trolling, the entire point of this “experiment” was to test whether not people actually read or not.

I’m sorry, but the only thing you’ve proved is that you need to improve your communication skills. If you want to try this again, spell out that you will kick them BEFORE the end.

(That having been said, I really hope you don’t do this again. Experiment or not, warned or not, it’s still a bad thing to do to people.)

Ditto. Got the set, love that there’s no RNG involved in it.

Please keep this, just do two things when you do. First, remove the chests that drop in the “real” world. Second, move it to a slightly less used area of Rata Sum.

I find the SPB interesting. I want to enjoy it, but I’m not always going to have the time or be in the mood for something like this. Having it last only a month makes me have to decide between giving up on it in general, or playing it when I shouldn’t.

Leave it in, please. Let those that want to rush through it, rush. Let those of us that prefer to take our time with things take our time.

Siphaed.9235:

There does NOT need to be a “fair” way to get them. No, instead there’s work, effort, and play. Sure, it’s a bit random, but the more jumping puzzles you do the better odds you have. This is the same for Precursors, boss loot, player drops, and so on. Even the Ascended crafting pieces for the back piece that drop in Fractals is random.

There is a difference here, though.

In your other examples, the quest for the items IS the content. With the continue coins, the item in question isn’t the real content, it’s the key to the content. (Admittedly, that’s what’s assumed right now. That could be wrong.) For the RNG to be able to lock people out of content is to risk the content being underused and/or ignored no matter how good it may be.

I’m not saying there needs to be a fair AND easy way to get the coins. Finding the coins at random is our easy way. There just needs to be a dependable, predictable way to get them as well. Slow, perhaps, but “fair”. Put in the effort, and you’ll get the key to the content. Depending on HOW the coins are used, this may become a bigger or smaller issue.

I’m not going to worry about it too much until I know more.

Siphaed.9235:

But, if it’s not and it is actual keys…how hard is it really to get? There’s 3 jumping puzzles in Lion’s Arch, and all 3 have a chance to get a coin and are easy to accomplish. I’ve done all 3 every day for the past 3 days and have gotten 4 coins from it. Plus 2 rares, and a few trash greens.

I’ve done nearly as many JPs lately, and gotten only one coin. That’s the problem with leaving it up to the random number generator to decide who gets coins and who doesn’t. It’s random, not fair. There needs to be a fair way to get them, as well.

I’d put it in my bank, and never touch it.

If someone went through the effort of giving me 1M gold, it was to see what I would do with it. So, naturally, I’d be a spiteful and contrary little kitten and do nothing with it. And laugh.

Palador.2170:

Easter is the last day of the daily sales in the Gem Store. As such, I expect Revive Orbs to go on sale that day.

I just want to say: “Called it!”

Daywolf.2630:

Yeah, happens a lot in AC, newer players trying to figure out the twists and turns. Maybe you forgot that you can draw a path on the map for them?? It’s just bad etiquette to start combat when someone is traveling.

Wait… what? You can draw on the maps and have others see it? How!?

Playing. The RNG and Mystic Toilet are more logical and predictable than the forum mods.

Invictus.1503:

Like all other objects, it resizes based on your toon size. Makes it more visible. As for the chicken, technically when you pick it up, it becomes an environmental weapon.

I suddenly have an idea for a new mini-game that combines Costume Brawl, mini pets, and Pokemon…

If you’re having fun, who cares if it’s “a waste”? I say to go for it.

Nymphetamine.2103:

So,
We can all agree this RNG with (mostly) real world money, is nothing more than gambling, right?

That leads me to the following:
Is this gambling even legal?
Especially if you take their ESRB rating of “Teen” into consideration…

./just asking

To what others have said, I’ll also add that opening a BLC gives you SOMETHING. It may not be what you wanted, but you DO get something. It’s like opening a trading card booster pack. It’s not LEGALLY considered gambling, though if all you’re after is that one rare thing then it becomes very similar in function.

I wish it was cheaper, but I think this is a fair enough price that it’s worth considering.

Like many others, I’m stuck here too.

Jeffrey Vaughn.1793:

It has to go through verification by our QA (testing) team, then it will go in the next content update. I don’t have an ETA at this point, sorry!

Seriously? EVERYTHING gets past them, why are they even considered a step any more? ((I kid… mostly.))

Side note: I can actually run PAST the boss and grab the real goal of the mission, then escape with it. However, that doesn’t actually end the mission, you MUST beat her. She’s not even supposed to be here (facing her was the other mission option you could choose), so why isn’t just going around her an option for this one?

I don’t have the whole conversation, but there’s one between two Ash Legion Soldiers as they talk about the Crush cubs. If anyone has that, post it.

Perhaps we could turn this into a slightly different suggestion?

Everyone should, by default, have “town clothes” powers/emotes. They can take the 5 power slots that are otherwise empty unless you’re equipped with a town clothes toy.

The first three can come from your class, and the last two from your race. Then you could have Mesmers walking around with copies of themselves or creating swarms of butterflies. Asura pulling out random gadgets to poke at and fiddle with. Charr giving themselves a good shake and filling the air around them with fur. Elementalists making little orbs of elements and floating them between their hands. And so on…

Easter is the last day of the daily sales in the Gem Store. As such, I expect Revive Orbs to go on sale that day.

April Fools? Something bunny or skritt related, I think.

I’ve got to say, I hate your answers. With so many of you saying more or less the same thing, however, I have to admit that you’re most likely hitting the mark on the reason.

There’s a few points I’d like to argue, but that’s not what this thread is for. Thank you all for taking the time to answer my question, and may the Mystic Forge be kind to you.

There are several weapon sets that have a “block” or “block and counter” ability. All of these would have to be changed or replaced with something just as powerful. This change would also have to keep the weapons feeling different than their non-blocking counterparts for each class.

I’m not saying it couldn’t be done, just that there’s more to it than the one change you want. It would require a lot of work, and possibly a rebalancing of the entire combat system.

Peetee.9406:

If you don’t want to do dungeons, you don’t get dungeon skins.

The ‘play it your way’ argument does not apply here.

Why not?

Deimos Tel Arin.7391:

why play 99% solo?
why don you try some dungeons?

citadel of flame explorable path 1 can be completed within 10 – 15 minutes, earning you at least 69 COF tokens

Because I don’t like to play on teams, as a rule.

I’m not saying that playing on a team is bad. I’m just saying it’s not something I usually enjoy, just as some people don’t enjoy chocolate cake or classical music. I could try to explain it, but in the end it comes down to “I don’t like it.”

I know I’m not the only one that feels this way, and I’m sure there’s a few out there that may like to team, but want to avoid certain dungeons due to personal dislike.

Being able to spend laurels for dungeon tokens seems like a very obvious thing to me, especially given the “play it your way” ideas behind this game.

I think it’s a pretty straight forward question: Why can’t we use laurels to get dungeon tokens? It would allow solo players to get the dungeon gear, but the conversion rate could easily be set so that it’s a bit faster and easier to get them by actually running the dungeons.

I’m sure there’s a reason why they didn’t do this, but I’m not seeing it. Can anyone point it out to me?

(Note: I play 99% solo, so I don’t really know how fast and easy the tokens come during a dungeon run. Given the prices and what I’ve heard, though, I can assume it’s a lot faster than we get laurels.)

IF it happens (and I can’t say if it will or not), I would not expect it to happen until we get an expansion. Adding even one off hand weapon to all classes is a LOT of work, especially for Thieves and Elementalists.

Hold Alt and try to move the stack, it’ll allow you to split it.

“Make it dark, make it grim, make it tough, but then, for the love of God, tell a joke.”
- Joss Whedon

Kheldras.9517:

marnick.4305:

Real world isn’t a happy place either yet I have a Charr plushie on my desk.

Would you wear it on your back in day to day life? At Work, In addition to a pink mohawk?

Would I? No. But there’s a guy on night shift that would. Hell, he’s got the colored hair (and beard) already. It’s not a mohawk, but it’s usually more colors than just pink, too.

I’m a RPer, and in game I have a thief that secretly writes trashy romance novels where humans (usually women, sometimes men) get carried away and ravished by norn and charr (usually men, sometimes women). It sounds silly at first, but you KNOW someone would eventually do it, it’s human nature. So enjoy the fact that the world is a grim place, but don’t be surprised if you see a cute human woman in red armor pull a book out of her charr backpack and slip it into a book cart in Divinity’s Reach.

Everyone has their moments of silliness, from Rytlock Bromstone to the genie trapped in the magical forge. Well … everyone but Trahearne.

They’re missing AGAIN?

sigh

Here’s the thing: They’re supposed to be there. But they’re kinda shiny, and you know there’s skritt in Lion’s Arch. They say it takes big brass ones to lay claim to the title of “best thief in the Arch”, and … well … one skritt has what it takes to hold that title.

rootnode.9546:

If ANet had created this thread https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/New-guild-missions-opinions-concerns/first let’s say…. 1 or 2 months ago and not 4 days before the patch, they could have figured out that 30k and 50k point barriers just to unlock it is a horribly stupid idea, especially for small to medium sized guilds. But hey, that would’ve been communication. Not their forte.

So, we should welcome our new era of “Zerg Wars – Bugs and Patches”

No, we should NOT DO THE CONTENT.

Ignore it. Because what happens when people spend all their time working on “content” that nobody touches? If ANet has any sense, they get canned, or at least shifted off of content development.

If you don’t like it, don’t do it. If enough of us don’t do it, it becomes a problem for ANet, not for us.

You’d be mistaken for a human in a fursuit.

Watch out for that asura wearing nothing but leaves and twigs. He’s into … things.

I got a few at first, and got a feel for what’s in the chests.

I don’t buy them any more. I can think of better ways to throw away my money. And if I have a few “leftover gems”, I either hold on to them or consider selling them for gold.

I like this idea, and have to wonder why it wasn’t done to begin with.

Heijincks.9267:

She should have flew over the wall. I mean she did that during one of the personal story jumping puzzles.

She needed to slow them down. To delay and distract them, so you would have time to escape. That means, she had to stand her ground, and give them a target. A moving target, maybe, but even she has her limits.

EverythingXen.1835:

Fiddlestyx.9714:

Can someone enlighten me as to what he did? Feel like I’m missing something.

Short answer: Exist

Long answer: He does nothing that couldnt or, more importantly, shouldnt be done by the player character. He’s a dry, uninteresting, nondeveloped NPC that gets shoehorned into YOUR story and takes it over the moment he shows up.

Worst of all, he replaces the interesting, likable sidekicks like Tybalt and Seiran who are killed off for stupid, aribitrary reasons.

I agree with all of this but the last part. They didn’t die because of stupid, arbitrary reasons.

They died because they were heroes.

Short answer: NO.

Long answer: I would have at first, but now that I’ve seen how the game is going and what NCSoft/Nexon are doing to it? This game will NEVER be the game that ANet wanted to make. And given what happened to Paragon Studios/CoH when they started to look into breaking free from NCSoft, it’s clear that ANet and GW2 will never be free of them.

I would say a lot more, but I don’t think even these mods can fire off enough infractions for what I would post if I really let loose.

I dislike him because, at that point, pretty much all the stories become the same.

It doesn’t help that he’s dropped on us without warning or a real introduction and replaces our much better developed mentor. If we’re going to be stuck with him, we need more time to get to know him and grow to care for him.

And for the love of god (pick one, any one), GET ANGRY! People you know are dropping like flies, and you get less upset than I do when there’s not enough jelly for my toast in the morning! Mourn! Cry! Scream! Flip the kitten out on someone! SOMETHING! The undead of Orr show more emotion than this! Then get your head back together and act all calm and cool in front of others, but let me see that crack in the wall, show me that moment of feeling.

Tengu: These guys have PC Race written all over them. They look cool, too!

Kodan: Serene, fuzzy wrecking balls. They’d make a great contrast to the Charr and Norn.

Skritt: Not all lone Skritt need to be stupid, and there ARE communication devices in the game already that would let them boost each other at a distance. They could have racial skills that improve based on the number of Skritt around them.

laokoko.7403:

Palador.2170:

P.S.: Dishonest people with Magic Find gear would just wait until they’re inside and have a moment, then quickly change their “good” gear to the MF set. Gear Inspection won’t solve that problem.

That don’t even make sense. People can swap now because there’s no gear inspection. If there is gear inspection you know who is swapping since you can check them mid dungeon.

Which is around when you can start to figure out who’s lied about their gear right now, without inspect. Right?

If you plan to spend all your time checking gear to make sure nobody’s switching on you, then odds are good you’ll be the one dragging the party down because you’re so distracted. People WILL do this, sane or not. If most people do a check 5 minutes in, then they’ll learn to wait a bit longer before switching gear to still get what they can out of it.

Blegh, it’s late. Sorry if I’m not wording this right. Sleepy time.

Zappix.7928:

Lol it happened in GW1 if anyone remembers going to Random Arenas and seeing dancing naked females with the names “Tip me plz” and “Tips pls”. They exist in almost every MMO I’ve played..

You know, if it was males (Norn, Charr, and the occasional Human), that MIGHT actually work on me and get a few coins.

Maybe. And it wouldn’t be gold.

Nope, sorry. If you want to sniff my undies, you have to pay.

….

But seriously guys, I don’t WANT to do “elite” or speed runs of anything. Make sure you let me know that’s what you’re looking for, and I’ll just stay away and we’ll all be happy. I’d much rather see a Bio/Description field that can be called up instead. Anyone that wants, can feel free to put their stats in there.

P.S.: Dishonest people with Magic Find gear would just wait until they’re inside and have a moment, then quickly change their “good” gear to the MF set. Gear Inspection won’t solve that problem.

Gestankfaust.4216:

What’s the deal with making threads for something that barely happens in GW2?

They can’t ALL be about loot drops… :P

Besides, beggars will inspire more to beg. It’s small now, but it will likely grow.

It’s been suggested several times before. The usual answer is that they tried, but there were serious clipping problems, and they’ve had to scrap that idea for now. (And given some of the clipping problems that they allowed to go live, it must have been downright awful.)

They’ve not said “never” to the idea, but right now there’s other things they’re working on first. Making capes and cloaks work would take time that could be used to make a lot of other things instead.

TsukasaHiiragi.9730:

How many players here played FF11 or Everquest 1? Camping there NMs was some of the best/fun and most frustrating times ever lol ~

I played EQ1, and that is NOT a game you want to copy. We can, however, learn from it.

I remember the camps for those things back in the day, calling them frustrating is a massive understatement. We do NOT need “NMs” that are a low chance to spawn, or spawn only every few days.

However… Say they set out a small series of things you can do. None of them unusually hard, but they take a bit of time and travel. Each item gives you something. Turn these items in (may require combining them into one item in the Mystic Forge, first), and the NM will appear. Suddenly, there’s no camping, no frustration that the NM keeps appearing while you’re at work. It’s the players that trigger it, not luck. The subquests to make this happen are what slow down how often it’s spawned, and can be set to make the process as rare or common as the Devs want it to be.

I think a player activated spawn would be much more player friendly. However, in either version, I wouldn’t hold my breath for excessively better loot. It would be bad for the game for any NM to become “the best path” to a special end.

This is for the more casual players that may not care about BiS gear. They may not want to run fractals and dungeons, but doing dailies is something they enjoy. When the time comes, they’ll look and see that they can get a good piece of equipment for a set cost in laurels. If it’s worth it or not will be up to them to decide.