Guild Wars 2

Regina Buenaobra.6193:

The information that Martin provided after the last quarterly earnings call about this topic hasn’t changed.

Our primary focus as a company is making the core game experience as amazing as possible, through new features, content, and the exciting changes and additions to the world through our Living World releases.

So there are no plans at all for a future expansion? Were confused now.

Tolmos.8395:

PearlGore.7419:

Thieves – Removed this class from the game until further notice.

There goes 70% of the game’s characters in one fell swoop =D

30%, the others are Warriors.

Thieves – Removed this class from the game until further notice.

A tanky shout warrior can still out-dps that Thief build.

stof.9341:

Grimwolf.7163:

What…. You do know if you, say, Cluster Bomb with BV up, you aren’t going to petrify the entire group, right?

This. BV like all venoms lose one charge per affected target in an AoE situation.

Though the idea is sound. BV + Venom Share + Thief Guild + Ambush Trap would give a solo thief player some heavy disable potential :p

How are you going to use two elites at the same time without two Thieves?

Atherakhia.4086:

What should happen is a guild can introduce a tax and a percent of the gold you loot actually goes to the guild bank.

I’d leave that guild in a hot second.

You mean revealed?

Zelulose.8695:

Doggie.3184:

Zelulose.8695:

stof.9341:

There’s no need to change Backstab such. The longer you take to land a backstab, the more likely you are to land a facestab instead.

Unfortunately, the d/p thief allows you to create a blinding field and stealth without taking damage. Continuous spamming of this allows you to stay in stealth until you land your backstab. This is why I don’t mind the spamming. I simply would like dodge block and blind to reveal a thief.

Isn’t it bad enough that it removes venoms (which makes no sense… I guess the venom just flys off your weapon and onto the ground). Don’t need more annoying functions. Stealth doesn’t last long enough for it to matter, plus it’s obvious they’re within melee range of you if they’re going in for a backstab so why would you need it? Are people that awful at predicting where they are?

Venoms were buffed. They no longer remove if you hit the air. Only if evaded or dodged or blocked. They used to remove when hitting nothing.

Thats like painting a Honda with no engine with 2000 dollar paint and claiming the car has been fixed.

When you fart do it in Stealth next to someone you hate.

Your char would just stand there unless you setup a target bot or something.

It gives you 33%, rarely it will work at 50% for a stealth or two.

Does it work for a Condi based RRR-Type bunker build?

Much the same way a bullet to the head is a counter to a bullet to the head?

More medium armor please, almost all of it looks terrible on all but Humans.

Killthehealersffs.8940:

Travlane.5948:

PearlGore.7419:

Oh for god sake we dodge to much now? Just remove us from the game and be done with it, next month it will be that we get medium armor, month after that we do damage! Nerf it…

Worst PvP gamers I have ever seen.

the real problem is a L2 kitten ue …..but even deeper is that anet caves to them on this and nerfs waaaaaaaay too much. try buff other classes.

anet dumbed this game down to allow a more broad range of players to play it. simple marketing ploys due to economic interests.

Tell me , mister <<oh no the Thief will die if they nerf Mug , it have no evasive moves or cond removal , but now Lassarous Strike it have been buffed and need to be skilled to use it >> , how would buff the other classes ?
Should they do 3k in each auto attack , while the total HP remain the same ?
Should we reduce the tPvP to 2 or 3 ppl instead and focus to balance around that ?

Um. What?

Darkness Falls – DAoC

We have to fight Thieves that Stealth too, we have no real special tools to deal with it infact we have less then say a class with a ton of quick AoE, yet no Thief complains about Stealth.

Just a random thought as I sit here and drink this cup of tears.

Brassnautilus.2941:

Phoenixfudge.5290:

Thieves are supposed to excel in mobility.

o rly?

According to ANET, yes…

Aneirin Cadwall.9126:

evilapprentice.6379:

The thief is punished – s/he spent a bunch of time and CD’s contributing nothing. Winning != Stomping. If I make a bad call, run in, fight for 20 seconds, and end up running away, you’ve won. People need to understand that.

This argument in a world vs. world context makes no sense whatsoever.

Basically what you’re saying is that if a thief wins, I have broken armor and must return to spawn and run back to my objective.

If I win, the thief survives and runs 2000+ range away to get out of sight and continues about his business.

“Balanced!”

No. If you win the Thief is dead.

Cottage Pie.6215:

shagworth.5017:

Henrik.7560:

Heartseeker, the damage on this is so overpowered, as of it can be used up to 5 times when at full initiative. How to kill someone as a Heartseeker spammer: 3k, 3k, 3k, 5k, 8k, -dead- if they are bunker, they will be less than 30% health.

Thieves that spam nothing but heartseeker are some of the lowest skilled players in this game and you should feel bad for dying to them.

Hard to ‘defend’ against some random ultra high damage spam tbh. I’m a warrior with 3400 armour and was hit for near 8k by a lone heartseeker spammed from who-knows-where. Sure I was on lower health (% wise, I was never killed by the 8k hit), but I have heals and don’t blow them all the second I get damaged, but theifs get a skill that serves many functions and also hits like a nuke on people with lower % health. There’s so many things wrong with such a skill…

No you were not.

Malediktus.9250:

I am a commander on my server and I tell people to not rezz people sub lvl 80 and kick them from my groups.
Its wrong that low lvls can win with good coordination. A same skillful and geared lvl 80 can easily beat 3 of them at once.

I have a feeling you do not Command very often, if at all.

Daecollo.9578:

Softspoken.2410:

Sunflowers.1729:

With that being said, here are a few ways:
Stun the Thief – The most obvious way is to chain-stun him. Depending on which class you are (I don’t know a lot about Rangers) it may or may not be possible. Thieves don’t have a lot of stun breakers.

The rest of your post is great, but this bolded part is extremely untrue. Shadowstep, Roll for Initiative and Infiltrator’s Strike are all stunbreaks that also create distance between you and the thief. That first one actually breaks stun on two activations for its 50 second cooldown, and that last one is a weapon skill that costs 3 initiative for the strike, and 2 to go back and escape.

This doesn’t include Haste and Infiltrator’s Signet which both try and drive the thief into an aggressive counter-attack. Or any traits relating to receiving control conditions.

Basically, the thief has access to very good stun breaks for escaping a fight.

Thieves must have SoS/Shadowstep on there utility bars to be effective, they do not get easy access to swiftness. If you count the 50% Movement when stealthed well don’t, we have to actually catch up and hit our targets in melee to stealth.

It’s 33%, although very seldom it seems to “Bug” and work at 50%. By that I mean once every 3-4 months of play.

My Mesmer may have got a Confusion nerf but she is still 100% playable and very strong in all situations, she is just a bit slow.

We also have one of the best Auto Attacks in the game now as Mesmers.

It’s the same 3-5 trolls on our forum mindlessly bashing other Thieves constantly as if they are gods at the class they likely have never played.

Pro tip – Rangers can be nearly as slipery as Thieves minus Stealth.

Thieves are supposed to be good at escaping, whats the issue?

BV is about the only Venom I can justify using personaly.

This games only real RNG is skins, want them work for them. Everything else is earned with time, no RNG involved.

raiden.9024:

Kichwas.7152:

raiden.9024:

Gw2 is meant to be a next gen MMO not an old way of doing things

And yet you want to ruin it with a “farming for gear” / gear grind mindset.

Were did I say I want a gear grind?

“Next Gen”, does not begin until around the end of the year, a little ahead of Yourself there.

Because 2-Handed weapons do more damage then 1-Handed weapons, That would give an unfair advantage to 2-Handed builds.

Aion went down this road alowing you to combine two 2-handed weapons destroying the balance of the game forever. No thanks.

It Won’t pass, Don’t worry lol.

The rest of us have bills to pay, not many can afford 30 dollars an hour in the Gem store.

Even if I did I would not.

I’m looking for one like the NPC Myani by the Forge in LA, what would a good gold dye be?

Sebrent.3625:

PearlGore.7419:

Sebrent.3625:

Best AOE CC? Based on what? Let’s go ask Elementalists and Engineers how they feel about you handing their trophy to the Necromancers.

Good AOE Dmg? Then Thief’s must be outstanding given what I showed earlier … which contradicts the complaints you put forth earlier about Thieves.

Lots of HP? That’s wonderful. Ask them how that’s working out for them given their lack of active defenses other than Death Shroud which is really just another hp bar and thus really more of a passive defense aside from actually using it.

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Also, I’m still waiting to hear from you on that math that shows your claims to be wrong.

You are aware Necros are one of the most important parts of the current ZvZ meta right? Why do you think that is?

The prevalance of high boon up-time builds and the Necromancer’s ability to corrupt/remove boons as well as masterfully manipulate the conditions meta-game.

However, that has nothing to do with the claims made earlier. So what’s your point?

You realy Don’t know? I’m sorry then were done.

Sebrent.3625:

Best AOE CC? Based on what? Let’s go ask Elementalists and Engineers how they feel about you handing their trophy to the Necromancers.

Good AOE Dmg? Then Thief’s must be outstanding given what I showed earlier … which contradicts the complaints you put forth earlier about Thieves.

Lots of HP? That’s wonderful. Ask them how that’s working out for them given their lack of active defenses other than Death Shroud which is really just another hp bar and thus really more of a passive defense aside from actually using it.

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Also, I’m still waiting to hear from you on that math that shows your claims to be wrong.

You are aware Necros are one of the most important parts of the current ZvZ meta right? Why do you think that is?

Sebrent.3625:

PearlGore.7419:

Sebrent.3625:

PearlGore.7419:

Or you could you know, move.

Where? You don’t know where the thief is and they are faster than most classes … especially if they have +50% movespeed when stealthed.

I pity poor necros and other classes who don’t even have a method of invulnerability, block, or any of the other plethora of active defenses my mesmer and ranger have.

We have 33% move speed when stealthed, the trait is bugged.

I know, but if I said that people would gripe the other way. Every thief knows “the +50% stealth speed trait” (i.e. Fleet of Shadow).

Is having max movement (swiftness) supposed to be bad? Many classes don’t have that speed. If they do, they sacrificed something else to get it. Often a weapon that would block or something similar.

So? Use it. And speed or no speed It’s very easy to move enough to avoid a BS, no one will deny this unless they are trolling.

Sebrent.3625:

PearlGore.7419:

Or you could you know, move.

Where? You don’t know where the thief is and they are faster than most classes … especially if they have +50% movespeed when stealthed.

I pity poor necros and other classes who don’t even have a method of invulnerability, block, or any of the other plethora of active defenses my mesmer and ranger have.

We have 33% move speed when stealthed, the trait is bugged.

Or you could you know, move.

We have weaker stealth in GW2, there were other games with perma stealth until you attack.

People beat those Stealth classes somehow.

Why did you share Your account and or buy gold from someone other then ANET? No one asked that yet.

Sebrent.3625:

PearlGore.7419:

The guy has never played a Thief, thats clear at this point. I would guess he has also never played a Necro.

Incorrect on both fronts.

However, I’ll entertain the notion.

Let’s assume I’ve never played either of these classes. How does this effect the math that I have put forth?

Go ahead and take your time. I’ll be waiting.

You tell me, you are the one trolling.

Sebrent.3625:

PearlGore.7419:

Sebrent.3625:

Atherakhia.4086:

You know what would be a far better suggestion…. not allowing backstab to be blocked or evaded. Seems like a far more reasonable solution to this problem.

Can we please do the same for my Mesmer’s shatters (and fix AI?)
And do the same for Ranger pets (and fix AI?)
And do the same for Warrior burst skills?

… I don’t think this is a good idea seeing as it is the highest damage skill in the game that gives no visual indicator of when the attack is. Just a 3+ second window that it can happen in a game where dodge rolls are less than 1s and most block skills are consumed upon blocking one skill (and then you’re backstabbed anyways lol … so they’re a non-option already … except shield stance).

BS is not the highest damage skill in the game, play more classes and learn my friend.

Did you notice that I used bold on “with no visual indicator”. Please find me a skill that does more damage and has no visual indicator.

When someone uses CnD you know you have 3-4 seconds to avoid being hit by a BS, easily done by anyone.

The guy has never played a Thief, thats clear at this point. I would guess he has also never played a Necro.

Sebrent.3625:

Atherakhia.4086:

You know what would be a far better suggestion…. not allowing backstab to be blocked or evaded. Seems like a far more reasonable solution to this problem.

Can we please do the same for my Mesmer’s shatters (and fix AI?)
And do the same for Ranger pets (and fix AI?)
And do the same for Warrior burst skills?

… I don’t think this is a good idea seeing as it is the highest damage skill in the game that gives no visual indicator of when the attack is. Just a 3+ second window that it can happen in a game where dodge rolls are less than 1s and most block skills are consumed upon blocking one skill (and then you’re backstabbed anyways lol … so they’re a non-option already … except shield stance).

BS is not the highest damage skill in the game, play more classes and learn my friend.

Funny I seem to avoid getting BS all the time. I must have 2 eyes and 2 hands or something.

Miserymachine.7512:

Stealth is a class mechanic. To nerf it and make it harder to access would be like having them put a trap that stops Elementalists from switching attunements.

Like the new traps that remove stealth?

I’d love to see my SB hit for 6K damage the way you describe, but it can not. More like 3-5K damage that takes a good length of time to hit and is easily dodged or stepped away from.

And our Auto Attack? Don’t even try it. Just stop digging that hole.

Sebrent.3625:

If you’re a thief and having trouble with getting bags in a zerg fight … wisen up and grab a shortbow as one of your weaponsets. I have yet to hear one of our thieves complain about how many bags they get in zerg fights.

This is an excellent example of what is wrong with the thief community.

lol yeah okay.

Yet to see an MMO do this, a Race change would be nice though.

Lets not forget on average a Necromancer will walk away from a zerg with 30-50 bags, a Thief will leave with 0-5. Unless we can sit up on a keep/tower wall and spam 2.

And OFC there is an outcry, all we ever get is things taken away while other classes get new toys all the time. Engi’s and Thieves are red head stepchildren.

I’m looking for advice on armor skins for my Sylvari Ranger, right now I have all Duelest and am considering the T3 chest piece.