Guild Wars 2

snaplemouton.1294:

/sarcasm on
Because elementalist got 20 weapons skills and need their skills to be subpar.
Just do the maths.
20 skills with 50% effectiveness = 10 skills with 100% effectiveness.
So downed skills need to be 50% as effective as other professions downed skills. Else it would be twice more powerful then other professions and make the game unfair for players who arn’t playing elementalist.
/sarcasm off

Funny part is… I’m pretty sure mostly everyone who say elementalist is fine believe this… Because more buttons to press make global cooldown faster.

Anyways… elementalist downed state is fine. Other professions downed states need their #2 changed to something as useless as elementalist #2 downed skill.
This or completly remove downed state in PvP.

/sarcasm also on….are you a math teacher?

For me backstabber D/D build is the favorite. You only die a lot with that build when you are new to it. If you play it for a while, you learn when to use what to stay alive.

As others mentioned, more a personal preference thing. Do you like to bleed people slowly? Do you like to burst casters down in three to five seconds?

of all the rangers skills, it is not the best by far, that is what I am saying…

you should level in WvW…I am fine with not leveling in Spvp

I agree with OP, as a guy who hates PVE, I have none of my characters past level 2. I strictly pvp, and this eliminates WvW pvp for me. What harm would it do to give xp for wvw?

It may take six months to reach max level, but I don’t care…I just want to avoid playing mundane hours of killing machine mobs so that I can pvp. Which is why I bought this game in the first place (Spvp)

As a thief, my favorite thing to do is steal 100B and then kill them with it.

no. it is casual pvp and the game is designed to auto-balance. It does a good job of it IMO. No need for leaving penalty. It is a non-issue in all the games I have played, I do not understand why people make an issue of it TBH.

The games I played in up until now (200+), there are very few leavers. Definitely not an issue for me.

If people want to leave because they are losing, that is just lame, but the game is designed for that, and it should NOT be changed IMO. I have to leave sometimes too because my son is into mischief, or someone is at the door, it is casual pvp.

I love the necro fear, and the whirling axes and the boon that gives you all boons, the tree just heals for 138…but thanks highlet, will have to try it in the middle of a big zerg.

I get this every time I steal from a ranger, the most useless ranger skill ever! I play a ranger, and haver never ever used that useless skill. Does it not give you a random chance to steal any of theirs? The rangers have never even been using it when I steal/mug them.

I run a BS build D/D, I only die when I get zerged I have tried a bunch of different thief builds, but keep coming back to this one as it is the mokittenn for me.

I have 52% crit
power 2200
3180 attack
2k armor
14.7k life

30(III, IV, VII) 30 (I, III, XII) 0 0 10 (V)

+1 for keep defense, you can do some great damage with it when they are all clusteredkittened like that. Not even close to the damage my D/D does, so for me not viable as main. Great second weapon though…

Nah, wouldn’t say so Mandra, just playing smart IMO…running is stealthing at half health and running because he sees no way to win.

I do not know, I am just not a runner. It does more for the team to try to burn down as many as you can before you die so that your teammates have less work to do.

Also wondering why you took dagger training over improvisation or sundering strikes, seems both of those would outweigh the dagger training in a WvW environment.

+1 for TotC and Bountiful Theft

If you stick with Shadow Arts, Cloaked in Shadows is worth a try as well.

Personally, I love mug and miss it when I do not have it…steal, CnD and Backstab can do some really nasty burst damage. (CnD if you do not have hidden thief ofc, which I do not)

Thanks Bobby for the information.

I really do not take myself seriously It is just a game. However, I do take my posts seriously.

Daredent.2961:

I love it when people named “Pimp Slapper” try and tell others how to play a game. Good Stuff. Obvious troll is obvious.

My name implies I cannot play? Does daring to dent imply you can?

Not trying to tell people how to play, just can’t understand the logic behind it, but the sincere answers above have shed some light on this. Thanks to those.

Hi, level 12 pvp thief here, about 100 games into thief spvp alone and really liking it, but one thing really does my head in vs other thieves…why o why do you run away? Stand up and fight like a man and die, or win!! It is a game, there is no penalty for dying…in fact I would venture to say it is quicker just to respawn than go and wait out all your CDs….

Thoughts??

it is probably my favorite trait. I just love opening with steal…so cool when you get to do up to 5k damage and apply poison and steal hopefully whirling axes or 100B. I will always open with it if I can. I probably rely on it too much…though I only run it with thrill of the hunt as I am pimping a backstabbing build right now…steal and backstab combo can do some huge damage on softies.

+1 on skill, skill just happened.

Thanks dude, I have specced this on my thief, but as my mouse took an unfortunate kitty on me tonight in the middle of pvping, I cannot test it until the new one comes. The testing with the keyboard in the mists though, the speed in the build already impresses greatly, it seems a great thing, thanks for the hard work and sharing.
Regards,
PS

Thanks God, I am using D/D and p/d but should obviously then be using D/P and SB, will change that tonight when I can play again. Given me a good start!
Cheers,
PS

The thief at the bottom is what I saw here and the mesmer needs a nerf….is that what you are saying?

And am glad it is, I love PvP and hate PVE…none of my characters have seen any of the maps past the first one minute sequence you have to do to be able to pvp. That is what I love about this game.

Keep playing + 1

It took me a few days to start liking pvp, at first I thought it was bad too….but now I realize just how great it is. There is so much more to like in this pvp than many other MMOs, and it is just in its infancy.

Hi,

I am currently playing a thieving backstab build 10(III) 30(I,II,XII) 20(VI, VIII) 0 10(V) and have a few questions…

1. Do dual daggers increase the damage of BS out of stealth? Or does dagger/pistol do the same amount of damage? I love the d/p combo for vs warriors/guardians…black powder is just super.
2. Do thrill of the crime and signets of power stack?
3. Any tips to improve that build?
4. What is your favorite opening sequence?

I know there are better thief builds, but I have always played backstab builds in every mmo I have played.

Thanks in advance!
PS

Protect me is not triggering on the black widow or jungle stalker for me…

no leaver penalty please

The skins need revamping in PvP for sure.

If you want to faceroll without any skills, pick Guardian, Thief or Mesmer…

HI, nice stuff, could you link your build?
Thanks
PS

Or buy gold chests with them? Just reached level 10 in PvP and have about 11.5k of them.
Thanks
PS

I have been using the power/crit build today, does really well in spvp. Thanks for posting. the Signet of stone is just sweet.

Played this for a few more hours last night and changed my short bow to long bow, and used the black widow spider. This is a very good build. In Spvp very very useful, I was usually topping the charts with it.
I also tried the torch, but the cooldowns seemed too long to me. May try it again, but the buff from the horn is just great.

That steal damage is insane. That is what I took from your pic. Learning to counter them is the best way to keep from dying.

noticed this today in PvP, the pet is just a waste of space. Even on guard he will not attack my foes hitting me, unless I press F1, multiple times. F2, have to mash it like ten times then it goes to cooldown before he even does it.
Pets need a fix for sure

I have been using the OPs build today and like it quite a bit. I really like the traps. I look forward to more input from you Odie on this though.

One thing I do not like about this build is the 15.5k life and the squishyness of it. Pistol whippers vs this build is for me at least a 100% guaranteed loss.
Also the pet is just freaking dumb. Even on guard he does not attack unless I press F1. The lynx also dies really quickly and a lot. Anything I could do differently for that?
Thanks for the tips, I really appreciate it and like the build, so keep it up!
Cheers,
PS

some of us do not intend to play PVE in this game, for those that only pvp like me, this should be an option, albeit low prio. Also like the idea of seeing rank in the mists and not everyone as level 80, would like this in the spvp maps as well.

Yup, it is very lame in PvP…

some suggestions…

only make it possible when you die from a bleed, or poison etc…not from being nuked down by ten people. That is just stupid.

Take away class abilities when you are down…

Make it earn huge amounts of glory when you kill a person while downed

Otherwise, just give me a suicide button so I do not have to wait out the stupid animation, I would rather just go to spawn time.

So you are willing to do arena without awards? Because this game does not reward pvp per se…

Arena is lame…a vote against it here.

I too am a PVPer at heart. from FPS to MMO,, I have played a lot of them, including Warhammer, AOC, WOW, etc…

What I like about this PvP, is that you can join at level 1 and start pvping without having to grind for months to get to the right level, then having to grind for months to get gear.

It takes skill to learn your class and be good at it. There is no CD faceroller class that destroys all, stealth is very limited (too much IMO), and balancing will be a piece of cake, it will just take some time.

What hardcore PvPers (and WOW is not hardcore please) miss is the grind, the glory of gaining pimp gear after months and months of mindnumbing grinding and being able to faceroll anyone in their way, not because they are good, but because they have the best gear.

ok thanks so when I thought I was getting smoked because I was undergeared it was just because I suck lol…

Is there a class that has unlimited invisibility?
My thief’s lasts like ten seconds max…not a game breaker

hi thanks shukran, not sure what you meant by same gear but change the skillness of the players? Does the gear grant more “stats”?

HI,

been pvping all day on Spvp and just had some questions about some things that I cannot seem to find an answer to elsewhere:

1. in Spvp does everyone have all the same gear and all the talents available? What about those who have been at it for a long time?

2. The rewards don’t make sense to me, I get chests with non-class stuff and the one thing I get I can use from three rabbit level chests are a pair of grey pants with an open socket that I can fill with the same artifact/gem/rune, or whatever it is called…?? Is there no upgrading the standard spvp armor/weapons?

Thanks in advance,
PS

Hi,

downloading the game as I type this and just wanted to say, happy hunting and I look forward to meeting you on the battle front!

/PS