Its definitely deleted, folks.
Nope. It’s gone forever.
yes, the splitter works fine.
i stopped reading at “its not rewarding.” clearly, you have no idea what spvp is about.
But this one strut wasn’t nearly as important as say, creating a living breathing world. That was front and center. Dynamic events, that was front and center. Even the personal story, that was front and center.
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that was the strength of the game at launch.
Even though they have since added Living Story to support the idea of a living breathing world- I feel that it doesn’t really have that effect in the game.
They have certainly moved away from DE’s and the personal story.
To me it feels like the game never actually developed it’s original ideas- instead they went for a formula that has been around for ages and many of us are tired of.
Honestly I think that is the reason for most of the anger.
for a while there we had what we wanted only to watch it evaporate in front of our eyes only to be replaced by McDonald’s
i miss the personal story stuff. i don’t feel like a hero anymore. the living story is complete horsekitten. game definitely feels less epic.
they don’t look cool or scary.
you know, i can wear exotic gear all day and steam roll 90% of people in wvw. so, yes. im complaining about a 10% situation. but the thing is, it has nothing to do with the 10% scenario, it’s purely the principal of having such a gear treadmill which kitten es people off.
no guys, we need to continue updating gear, money/wallet systems, update visual of legendary weapons, and gemstore items instead of fixing a game breaking wvw issue/limitation.
Doing so would invalidate the time people spend acquiring that gear. I think the heart of your post is in the right place, but what we would rather do is make possible for people to get the gear by playing WvW with a sprinkling of PvE, rather than the other way around.
here’s the solution: don’t have gear treadmills. silly answer from a dev to talk about invalidation when you should actually address the root cause.
“i really hope not” means yes, there will be more.
if anet downscaled ascended items to exotic, i would definitely return to the game for some wvw action since spvp is kitten anyways. at least i could get some kind of pvp fix. but no, anet will not address this issue. they have lied about everything and there’s no reason for me to believe they care about us. its all about the money and stakeholders. its best to move on to another game.
who cares about leaderboards. it’s a complete joke unless it’s completely tournament based. it means nothing… leaderboards was another case of not looking out for the players. we clearly didn’t need leaderboards, and definitely didn’t need a kittenty leaderboard system. they should fix the core game first
(which won’t happen).
ok, here’s the bottom line. if your sick and tired of chasing carrots, etc., STOP PLAYING THE GAME. that’s what i do… anet will notice people are not happy once the population steadily decreases. thats how you fix the game.
I have 1600 hours on warrior. I stopped playing months ago.
Colin Johnson plans for this to be the last tier of gear. Exotic was just to easy to ascertain and anet had collectively come to the decision to try akittenagain. Googling quotes doesn’t help your cause. We all know what they said and they know what they said.
Exotic being too “easy” is just a cop-out. They planned this all along. They need to explain to the fans why they changed their game design abruptly.
Part 1: Is Ascended Gear Required?
First of all, there are people doing naked runs of dungeons (absolutely no armor, only weapons), there are people soloing AC/CM/TA at their intended levels, without access to Ascended or even Exotic items. I’ve seen a level 24 Necromancer doing 30+ fotm, it was fun and “unique”. Overall, Ascended gear, and really ANY type of gear isn’t required at all, provided you have enough skill to compensate for the lack of it. I doubt Ascended gear can make much of a difference in large scale WvW battles or sieges either, there are siege weapons to be used, and I’d take a properly built (skill-wise) team mate using greens (for example a support Guardian with a Staff) over a bs Thief in a large scale battle.
As I’ve said in multiple posts, if you are doing a variety things (like, everything in the game) you can get an Ascended Weapon without ever doing the same thing twice.
ascended gear kittens up wvw. it’s not debatable. if it was pve only, i wouldn’t probably care as much—i would simply not get the gear.
such stupidity. no, you’ll have to do the same thing twice, three times, or 10 times, or 500 times. think about all the combinations of stats. dumb. (and amount of weapons)
No it doesn’t. Ascended doesn’t make as much of a difference in large scale WvW battles, sure it affects roamers and duelers a lot, but not large scale combat. Profession/build matters, gear does not.
WvW does not mean large scale combat. you people are something else…
GEAR MATTERS. STATS MATTER. Having 13% more damage atm MATTERS. And it will ONLY GROW EVERY FEW MONTHS FROM NOW ON.
Ranks were stupid enough already for www, now ascended…PvEers in champ trains…how exciting….
Why does gear matter if someone can do content in blue gear while someone in Ascended is struggling? 13% more damage doesn’t matter at all.
did you eat paint chips as a kid?
yes. ascended gear sucks. this is the reason i don’t play the game anymore. now i play neverwinter. but wait, you may be thinking why are you playing that game? it’s pay to win, has a gear treadmill, etc. But WHY?? Reason is simple—the game is trash and i know it. guild wars 2 was supposed to be a revolutionary game and now it’s trashy like other MMOs.
Part 1: Is Ascended Gear Required?
First of all, there are people doing naked runs of dungeons (absolutely no armor, only weapons), there are people soloing AC/CM/TA at their intended levels, without access to Ascended or even Exotic items. I’ve seen a level 24 Necromancer doing 30+ fotm, it was fun and “unique”. Overall, Ascended gear, and really ANY type of gear isn’t required at all, provided you have enough skill to compensate for the lack of it. I doubt Ascended gear can make much of a difference in large scale WvW battles or sieges either, there are siege weapons to be used, and I’d take a properly built (skill-wise) team mate using greens (for example a support Guardian with a Staff) over a bs Thief in a large scale battle.
As I’ve said in multiple posts, if you are doing a variety things (like, everything in the game) you can get an Ascended Weapon without ever doing the same thing twice.
ascended gear kittens up wvw. it’s not debatable. if it was pve only, i wouldn’t probably care as much—i would simply not get the gear.
such stupidity. no, you’ll have to do the same thing twice, three times, or 10 times, or 500 times. think about all the combinations of stats. dumb. (and amount of weapons)
if people really wanted guild wars “back,” they would simply not log into the game anymore. my theory is that anet lost a majority of their player base 6 months in, and all the new players have started flowing in (cod/wow fanboys). but anet claims that the majority of players are enjoying the game. they will not fix it for what i like to call us, the “1%’ers.” deal with it or leave. this is not guild wars anymore—it’s a entirely new team with new ideas and horrible decision making. if i had worked at anet i would’ve been fired 6 months ago, or more.
Part 3: The Problem Cont.
This part did a very nice job of talking through the problem. It was great to know that you were done getting stats for your character and could focus entirely on doing things that were fun, grinding only if you wanted, and only for skins. But then it turned out that’s not how the game was going to work.
Sadly, I also agree with IndigoSundown that Anet is never going to come out and discuss why they did a complete 180 on design. For one thing, that would require them to acknowledge that they did a complete 180 on design.
im guessing the publisher/other stake holders in the business wanted to see this and forced anet to do so.
Disclaimer:
My thoughts/views may or may not differ from those of the reader. My personal opinions in no way shape or form are meant to insult or offend those who support Ascended gear or the direction the game is taking.
you’re not alone. all of the smart people have quit the games ages ago. now we just check the forums. anet is sticking to their guns on ascended gear, killing alts, killing builds, etc. it’s not going to end anytime soon. in the near future, many people will have legendary simply for stats. you’re going to see a lot of r-tards running around with the same gear. the best thing for you to do is find another game.
well, now that i think about it, playing spvp would only be further detrimental to the community since it wont help them get their ascended weapons and armor.
heres my take. anet isn’t going to change the conquest mode, ever. time to pack your bags and play forum wars 2. the root cause for failure of spvp is the game mode conquest. there are no other variables.
i guess what im trying to say is achievements wont fix spvp. end of discussion.
it wun fix spvp, but it will be a good start!
more casual players is good for spvp.
for example, i am sure dota 2 has lots of casual players as well as non casual players (tournament players)
im dumbfounded. so you’re saying that if more people play spvp anet will fix spvp? they already don’t listen to us, and they think spvp is fine as is, so shouldn’t do much with larger community. another issue with spvp achievements and dailies is player’s focus on something specific and turn public matches into crap. this kind of stuff has no place in a spvp environment. if you want to farm achievements you should play pve.
i guess what im trying to say is achievements wont fix spvp. end of discussion.
but, team fortress 2, counter strike source, counter strike global offensive are PvP, and they have loads of achievements!
and they are successful!
and i think counter strike global operation is considered e-sport level, have tournaments etc.
167 achievements for counter strike global operations
http://steamcommunity.com/stats/CSGO/achievements448 achievements for team fortress 2
http://steamcommunity.com/stats/TF2/achievements/well, team fortress 2 had some tournaments, not big, but still, tournaments.
http://www.teamfortress.com/?tab=newsInsomnia 49 Multiplay LAN event!
August 22, 2013 – TF2 TeamThe next big Multiplay LAN, Insomnia 49, takes place August 23-25 in Telford, England. Top teams from Europe will be joined by community-funded North American and Australian teams to fight in a 6v6 cup and Highlander 9v9 tournament.
This year’s i49 features a prize pool of more than $7,000. With over 420 Team Fortress 2 players attending, i49 is one of the largest competitive Team Fortress 2 events of the year!
Don’t miss the Grand Finale on Sunday, August 25th, at 11 AM Eastern time (4 PM England). The matches will be covered by VanillaTV, (with added content on their YouTube channel), and KritzKast throughout the weekend.
prize pool $7,000 hmmm not too bad for community funded tournament?
achievements will help spvp.
i am sure a lot of members can help contribute examples if they let us.
am i dreaming? achievements have nothing to do with pvp being successful or not…
i had to log in after seeing how ridiculous this topic is. op and devs have completely forgotten what spvp is all about, PvP—not stupid achievements. Wow, just WOW! GG NO RE. please give me a reason to play the game again. i’m waiting…
I’m beginning to wonder if Anet has even considered the impact of all of this “vertical progression”(read: time sink). Ascended weapons will no doubt have higher stats than normal weapons, but they will also probably have higher base damage. This has an even greater impact on the differences between someone geared in full exotics vs full ascended gear.
The issue with this is what happens when you want to change your build? What happens if you dual wield 2 sets of weapons so you need 4 for just 1 build? What happens if you play more than 1 character? 2 characters? 3 characters? There have been other changes that haven’t been alt-friendly and that’s fine, but I think this is becoming too much. I can’t keep up with gearing all of the characters or builds that I play.
I realize people are just going to say “you don’t HAVE to get ascended gear”, but I like to play WvW and it’s silly to think that people are running around in gear that is 10-20% more effective than mine just because they play 1 character and I play 7.
Ascended Gear has already killed build diversity and alts in WvW. I’m 10% stronger with my warrior (I don’t play anymore). 10% increased damage will have a huge effect on the outcome of a battle in WvW, especially in small squads. Not to mention you’ll be 20 percent stronger with buffs. Ascended Gear and buffs have no place in PvP.
i miss competitive pvp
wakitten wakitten
i haven’t gotten my birthday present either—and i’ll tell you why. i never log into this game anymore.
Firstly, we have no qualm or rivalry with Helseth.
That aside, I have some questions, and would like to address some other points made.
1. What exactly do you mean by allocating resources to eSports?
2. What exactly is your definition of fun? Fun is subjective, no?While we definitely appreciate it when players are vocal and provide feedback, excessive hyperbole does not help us to understand the fundamental issue.
Some more points:
1. The current meta is not controlled by the PvP team. Yes, we monitor it closely as balance greatly affects PvP. However, no resources are being taken away from PvP development in order to do balance. So I’d like to just squash that misconception now.2. Skill effect clutter – another thing not controlled by the PvP team. Another thing that we monitor and provide feedback to the teams that do control it.
3. Sending out in-game mail is not as easy as it sounds. Keep in mind that every message that is sent has to be edited and localized.
- This is, however, something we recognize as an area to be improved. We are investigating ways to provide in-game messaging for events.
4. Lastly, I want to thank you for promoting the guildwars2pvptv channel. I always see a few people on the team with the stream always going on their 2nd/3rd monitors. Once PAX has past, we’ll be looking to better promote streamers from all areas of the game. So keep it up!!
ok so basically everything that is wrong with the game is not your fault. There is nothing at all under “control” you simply “monitor” thats cute!
I guess it is ours then! this meta is the worse EVER and i believe we all agree on that but it is ofc the players fault for playing the extremely OP professions that YOU made.
This is the excessive hyperbole that I mentioned in my post. You have every right to complain, but we can’t really understand your problem unless you actually provide some constructive feedback.
Allie, apparently you don’t read these forums very often, otherwise you would already know what is killing sPvP. It’s not the balance, it’s the kittenty game modes. This has been pointed out by numerous community members, yet you continue to ignore the posts or even in some cases delete the topic (i.e. you got kitten). This is your constructive feedback. Your current game mode is crap.
when all you do is log in to check out the new culling fix. Hey, that’s cool—I can see people now! Time to log off now… that is all.
do not count these people as daily unique log ins if they’re only logged in 30 seconds.
I fear for WvW … Already there is a difference between those with full ascended items and those with lowly exotics and now the gulf will get even wider…
I know WvW is about more than stats but someone in full ascended gear vs someone in exotics would be a huge mismatch (if ascended armour follows the same stat boost as the trinkets)
basically WvW ascended gear or stay in pve :-(
And yet the leap between Rare and Exotic is bigger, not to mention Mastercraft and exotic, and yet it is fully possible to run around and be useful using both Mastercraft and Rare items in WvW.
ummm… you’ve failed to understand anything. gj.
I covered the main reason why conquest is bad here, check it out:
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/pvp/This-game-is-too-hard/firstWait, so you’re telling me that because people are stupid, ANet is in the wrong? That because people don’t understand something, conquest is bad?
So, if I don’t know how to play Starcraft II, does that make the game or Blizzard bad? Maybe this game is supposed to be hard so that this game can be interesting and incorporate features of esports like, y’know, skill and strategy.
No. That is a troll post. Nobody thinks capture points is hard, in fact, we think it’s too simple and makes a very boring experience. People will only complain about capture points in a public match since they are bad and everyone is farming rank and dailies. Blame Anet for that once again.
This whole Anet hosted E-Sports stuff has to go, we were wanting more balance updates than 1 per month (Every other bein but fixes, thus 1 every 2 months). Pax put a halt to big changes and left us in the worst meta the game has seen for longer than it should have been showcased. I’m all for pvp events, but don’t let it take away from development. There is far too much to be looked at currently for taking long development breaks just to have month+ long pvp events.
i don’t get it. there is nothing e-sports about this game.
no MMO is balanced. silly question.
They have said it, to not expect new modes in the near future.
Thank god I can except new games.
I’m with ya man.
New modes are a big investment new large interactive/reactionary maps, revamping both tpvp and hot join browsers, and keeping a class balance that works in each. I think it may be something they do in the future, but at least for right now they are having trouble with balance alone.
While new game modes would be great the current issue is the game play not the game mode. The balance right now is horrid, but you have to look at the bigger picture with the addition of torment to warr.thief.mesmer, and necro they are trying to advance these classes so they are less reliant on basic mechanics and bring those that were not being used some use.
The trinity has nothing to do with it look at spirit watch or the boat map if you want to know why we do not have other game modes. Spirit watch is pretty much cap the flag and is not in tourney rotation because they have not balanced for mobility or cc and the boat lv is not in rotation because underwater combat is not balanced.
While I think the way they are doing it is silly whats done is done and the game play will get better over the next few months and hopefully we will have better balance with all the classes used.
I think you couldn’t be any further from the truth. Balance has nothing to do with new game modes. Balance could quite possibly fix itself with introduction of new games modes. No MMO is balanced, ever. This is a copout, and Anet knows so. They are doing everything they can to keep conquest as a mode (i.e. reduced game effects). All I’m saying is don’t expect sPvP to go anywhere in this game. This is not an e-sport game because the actual game mode is horrid. This is a huge problem for me and others since PvP is my end game. Without strong PvP, there is simply no reason to log in.
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this game has no chance for e-sport with capture nodes
^ And yet it is one of the most successful games released the last few years.
Conjuring and Paranormal Activity series is getting rave reviews. What’s your point? I admit this game is better than anything else, but the problem is they went against their manifesto and are starting to be more conventional now—they are not thinking outside-the-box—this is no longer revolutionary. It’s a standard MMO… It was supposed to be something much bigger. This was their time to shine.
That sPvP is and always will be focused around Capture Nodes and that they do not plan to release any further modes. Is this game pigeon-holed since no healers or trinity?
You won’t see legendary armor any time soon, you will see Ascended Armor in 2013 for sure though, yes.
I’m sorry Colin, I know it’s a business and $$$ must be made, but you Arenanet guys have lost your minds—I’m sorry… Please do not call this Guild Wars. I suggest you rename the game immediately. I may only be one guy, but all I do is log on to GW2 and run around Lions Arch for 5 minutes. With this new model, there is nothing in this game that I’m looking forward to. I’m in the process of looking for a new game, although I admit, with limited success. GW2 could of been the next big thing—I personally don’t see it going anywhere in its current state. Good luck.
Nvidia Shield is just starting to ship today. But disregarding that, currently the only games that can be streamed from the PC to the Shield are games found on Steam.
This is not true. There is an option in Steam to add non-Steam games to your library.
gvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvg
i’m with you on that. i feel like there should simply not be a point system—at least not how it is today since it discourages teamwork in a public game. and the spvp daily… don’t even get me started… people log on to do daily and don’t even “play” the game. come on anet: spvp reward should be spvp. is this the same devs that developed gw1?
all i gotta say is world of guild wars
it’s the only way to make this game competitive. people played gw1 for so long because of the great pvp and gvg battles. the pvp in this game is dull. plz fix kthx
ever wonder why no one cares about spvp? this is why
this build has been viable for months. a matter of fact, it has been the only viable build for warrior since the release of the game. funny joke post.
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