Guild Wars 2

I was sugesting that we could like in mid air of the stomp activate ds and still finishing the stomp , with out interromping ,this is flashing , same when ele uses obsi flesh when stomping.
Like this if u had foot in the grave ,when we were about to stomp and activated ds , we wouldnt stop the stomp and we would gain stab.

U guys can take wtv u want really, the op looks like he cant play pure damage build, so i advised him carrion because it doensnt rely just on condi damage, u can get the precision from traits and the dps while in ds with dhumfire(burn) + soul spiral(poison)+ bleeds +might on aa will have a nice dps output and he will not die so fast, i try most of the builds u can think of, and its important to find that midle ground of dps plus sustain , but like i said take wtv u want, run gs builds or zerker nps for me, im just trying to help the op.but probly im wrong and i have no clue i just have like 100 pvp games in pvp so just forget what i said and run those zermer amulets with gs and those amulets with thoughness and precision np really and gl i will see u ingame.

Yasi.9065:

Shadowstep isnt the be-all end-all you are suggesting. I have wurm. I have a second health bar and shroud 2 for getting away/help.

Necro isnt a roamer, so the moments Im all alone and get jumped by a thief are really quite sparse. Mostly that happens, when my team forces me to cap close in the beginning. Or if I kitten up.

Wow u must be a soloq heroe.
If a thirf or rev want to get u then he will , it not that wurm that is going to stop them.
If u get focus by a rev and thief in solo q u just gonna die its that easy.
And about your second life force gl with that.

In realation to the op i must tell u that a necro will kill the scapper in the 1v1 .
Many times even with just a litlle life force i manage to kill some very good scrappers and i dont run 1v1 builds.

This is all good but u talking about boss fights, in that case a few secs before fight just slot bip , simple, i guess it makes it viable then?
Even in boss fights some cleanse all condies every now and then, and then what?
U cant say this is a good skill, if 5 players atack 1 npc how many secs he will last ? 3- 6 ?
In boss fights if they dont cleanse then yes u can have 2 stacks of bleeds last the full 60 seconds yay, wd .
Might is still a waste if u have a warrior or rev, ele in the group.
No point to have a skill aplying 2 stacks bleed for 60 seconds, its gonna get cleansed, i would rather have 6 stacks of bleed in 20 seconds and lower cd.

560 is correct , i dont use paladins i knew the main stats tho.
Carrion will help u to be in ds longer and a few stacks of poison + burn+ might would help a lot.
Ofc like i said before carrion is not a power amulet ,and i dont use it a lot either but if u want to run some power ,carrion is not bad, what does paladin have over carrion? Precision?
As a necro thats not so important.
I never run 1v1 builds well almost never, and when im vs these gs necros running zerker they last like 10 seconds.
Power glass in solo q as a necro its very hard to play, cause of all this power creep.
Carrion as some power and with some good ds management u can do some real damage.
About death magic i dont use it, but its not that bad like u trying to say, depends on the build u running.
Op cant run power builds so im advising him to try carrion , even tho its not a power amulet it as some power in it.
So running wos+woc+ stun break
Carrion
Deathy perception+decimate defenses
Its doable if he wants some power in his build ofc its not a power glass damage but he will not die as fast either.

This skill for pvp its just bad period imo.
For pve everything its ok and i think viper( all my armor is viper ) with wells or minions and epidemic is superior , u use bip in 1 target if u had use any other skill u would have killed it as fast or faster and aoed.
In fractals u also can use well cause u always at 25 stacks of might.
Why would u takt bip over other aoe skill?
Epidemic+wells or minions its more than enough.
The op is right imo its a bad skill that targets 1 npc applying 2 bleeds.by the time u cast the skill and use a tranfer u could just had minions atacking the npc or 2 wells+epidemic or even septer aa +epidemic.
If u like it use it nps but i think i can say what MY OPINION IS if u read on my posts i do right IMO.
And btw if u come at me in pvp using that crap u would be dead before u would cast it .gl anyway

Brokensunday.4098:

Prince Vingador.8067:

I would like to sugest we could flash ds when we are stomping(IM SURE MORE PLAYERS WOULD USE FOOT IN THE GRAVE)with out interromping the stomp.

no flash but allow to use ds while stomping

Prince Vingador.8067:

Life blast and staff AA should be faster.

agree with this life blast need to be faster also cast time is horrible and aftercast.

? Can use ds while stomping, it needs flashing while stomping so it doesnt get interrompt mid air, cause atm foot in the grave not ever cover the full stomp, so if u where lets say mid air and u activate ds u should still finish the stomp, and u woulnt get interromp cause of foot in the grave.
Cause atm u are mid air and if u activate ds u cancel the stomp .

If u want to run a real power build then use berserker or marauder or destroyer even, but as a necro in solo que u gonna have a hard time since u can only soak damage with ds and no way to completly negate damage.
So if u have to use an amulet with power i use carrion sometimes, i think it gives the best bang for the buck.
Necro is slow on top cant negate damage, if u join solo q and u get no support or healing u are an easy target this is why im advising carrion if u want to play with some power, but yes carrion is not a power amulet, but u probly will do more dps with carrion than with berserker because a dead necro does 0 dps.

I see paladin as a soldier amulet, i really dont like it, diference between carrion and paladin is precision , and u can get the precision from decimate defenses and death perception, but u get good condi also , so u trading a bit of thougness and precision that u dont need for good condi.
Thats why i advise carrion 400 thougness is not bad but u gain more by getting condi damage also.
Its not that 400 that is going to save u but if u really need then u can get in runes and death trait line , paladin vs carrion its easy for me to see carrion is better, what u really losing is thougness vs good vit and condi.

For pvp is just bad and for pve is not so bad but still bad imo cause like i said u can take WAY BETTER, u dont need the might in pve cause the group is always stack with 25 stacks in raids and pve organize groups.
There is a raid forum and fractal forum and a www, if u need better understanding in such areas.
Lets just leave it at that.
Take blood is power and enjoy man if u like it good for u ,i just hope u dont get in my team in pvp

Sorry ,first im posting in a pvp forum,second in pve u can take anything u want , everything is ok , i did this month in 4- 5 days all fractall from 1 to 100 EASY,but even so let me tell u that not once i used blood is power, no npc is going to ladt 30+ seconds, and if u take a warrior with u then u also dont need the might, i told u before there is much better options to take insted of blood is power.
Dont try to defend this skill ,we need the devs to try to make it better .

Hesacon.8735:

Prince Vingador.8067:

Hesacon.8735:

Necro utilities are generally not great at applying conditions. For long-life enemies (raids, teq, SMC lord in wvw) it’s useful. 8 stacks of might is nothing to sneeze at either.

Just because you wouldn’t keep it on your utility bar 24/7 doesn’t make it useless. It’s just one more tool in the kitten nal to be taken out as-needed.

If u take it for the might let me tell u that u can keep 25 stacks easy and i mean perma 25 staks, so u take it for the 2 stacks of bleed? With almost 1 sec activation?
Yes its useless in pvp cause no 1 is going to be bleeding fot 30+ seconds , there is much much better options to take insted of this .

There’s more than one way to build a necro and you’re not always going to take the Spite trait line, especially on a condi build.

Tell me pliz in what build and insted of what skills will u take blood is power?

Its not a stun break, it means that from the 3 skills u can take u need a stun break, so 1 stun break+ blood is power + what ? In what build?
U trying to defend a bad skill, on a long cd that takes almost 1 second to activate to apply 2 stacks of bleed, i think i actually never saw 1 necro running such skill in pvp.
Makes no sense, u take the stun break and ( well.. 2 wells, or rise, suffer, poison cloud, specral wall,specral walk,spectral armor,sig of locust,corrupt boon, wurm?
No space for blood is power, or well of darkness, or specral grasp or sig of undeath….
Im not saying applying 2 bleeds and getting might is bad, what im saying is there is much better choices, and 2 bleeds + might its nothing wow, its not a game changing skill like a portal or zerker stance or corrupt boon ..
Because of all this yes blood is power is weak, its not instant nor a stun break, u not going to insta kill any one or sustain yourself, so again i say its useless.

Hesacon.8735:

Necro utilities are generally not great at applying conditions. For long-life enemies (raids, teq, SMC lord in wvw) it’s useful. 8 stacks of might is nothing to sneeze at either.

Just because you wouldn’t keep it on your utility bar 24/7 doesn’t make it useless. It’s just one more tool in the kitten nal to be taken out as-needed.

If u take it for the might let me tell u that u can keep 25 stacks easy and i mean perma 25 staks, so u take it for the 2 stacks of bleed? With almost 1 sec activation?
Yes its useless in pvp cause no 1 is going to be bleeding fot 30+ seconds , there is much much better options to take insted of this .

flow.6043:

Prince Vingador.8067:

But if u want to be realistic and not be dying every 30 seconds and u really want to play power then i advise u carrion .gl

I think you mean paladin.
Also, you can afford to run a glassy amulet if you pick certain traits and utility skills.

No i ment carrion, reaper can make better use with a carrion than paladin.
But what do i know, probly paladin is the new trend for necro.
Like i said i advise him carrion.

This is one of the worse skill from necro for pvp imo.
We dont need a skill that bleeds u for 30+ minutes its silly really.
For this to be usefull like it was said above u need to trans fer also the 2 bleeds.
Anet needs to rework this one imo.

U can play power if u join a team and have players peeling for u.
But soloing its too hard to play glass power.
Because a thief or rev i mean any 1 actually just almost insta kill u, again im talking equal skill players, but if u youtube it u can see some heroes running gs and killing every one.
Necro is dependent of life force and we start the game with 0, and since we have no blocks or invuls when they target u , u will just die.
The best u can do is carrion on power for solo que if u want power, if u run with a team then viper or marauder looks nice.
But if u want to be realistic and not be dying every 30 seconds and u really want to play power then i advise u carrion .gl

Im not looking foward and i not even think i will play season 4 because of the macth making, i have all the possible achievments i could get , i have the wings also since season 2, no build templates, still need to wait in the hotm for the games, still bad balance , still no / resign option , so why should i be keen for season 4?

messiah.1908:

guys cant you see the problem which is inherent the the soul of MMR
if the design is to be on 50% win rate no one can climb the ladder. your mmr should be average
the rank system just give the ppl the opportunity to see that
few ppl get higher results while other lower result

if the top skill players should win in 90% win rate it means some other losses in 90% loss rate or the system should give them the opportunity to play with much more range of players the the losses will spread between the community
but all in all the average will be 50% so if you listen in math lessons most thing is like normal distribution so less than 5%-10% are in the top and lower and most are in average range
the problem with anet its seems to put you there while you think you should be in other tier….

also in unranked when i see ppl with starter armor and weapon its mean bye bye to win and rotation game lol so i just play for fun

The game is ment to get 10 players of similar mmr and put them together on a 5v5, so … pliz explain me how is that dying in 3 secs or dying to npcs or double capping its having players of equal mmr?
So when a team wins 500 – 30 means equal mmr games ?
I had players saying sorry even before game starts becausr they had only 10 pvp games on them or they are just doing the dailys etc etc…
Its obvious that in theory this MM sounds ok and fairish..
But in practise it doesnt, and the worse is that u get these 2 or 3 very very bad players for the next 4 games or so.
There is a huge skill gap i mean really huge between players in the same game, when i win far 1v2 and trust me i do win way to often 1vs 2 and yet my team loses mid and close, im not lying here or saying im a super player , what im saying is that anet should improve this MM, this is the real problem here.
U can come and say that every one thinks hes a pro and think they should win all the time and such….. but trust me this MM problem is very real, and even tho im not a top player i can see a huge gap in skill between the players, and u want to know what… 99 percent of players that post in here are all average or below average players, when i talk ingame with top players asking them what they think of such treads and such , they reply they not even check the forum.
I wouldnt mind to have a bit longer ques , but have better games.
And yes i do have average 8 minutes or so when the game tells me there is 2-3 minutes que average.

A torch off hand with 600 range with some spike condi and some swifness would be great.
We dont need another power weapon and we dont need a condi weapon that takes ages to apply long stacks.
I prefer 4 seconds of heavy spike condies like (burn + torment + blind) than 30 seconds of bleeds like our skill blood is power.
Torch would look good on necro also , and if had some stealth or super speed or teleport would be sweet

They know what traits we use the most , they know whats op and not, problem is they take soo long to nerf or buff stuff.
I just hope anet gets it right this time and doesnt add buggs like they always do.
Im not going to add numbers or condi durations or any dps numbers , but i will ask anet to think what to do with:

Axe needs to get buffed
Gs needs huge buffs
Core necro needs buffs
We need some life force at starts of the fights (lets us get 20 percent every time we die if we have less then 20 and at start of the game, since we need lf to survive, we have no invuls or blocks….)
Focus needs faster cast times
Let regeneration boon go tru ds
Signet of undeath needs rework
I would like to sugest we could flash ds when we are stomping(IM SURE MORE PLAYERS WOULD USE FOOT IN THE GRAVE)with out interromping the stomp.
Life blast and staff AA should be faster.

Like i said im not going to suggest numbers, but i hope anet will look into this

I must say that playing atm pvp its too much for my nervs, 0 awereness atm on pvp , 0 clue.
In the last 10 days i played maybe 10 games or something.
Its impossible to enjoy pvp, and if u try to help by telling them something u get offended, same if u losing 400-50 and u go afk because u just had enough ,then u are the reason they lost.
I dont think anet can put 10 players in the same game with equal skill play.

i think its really hard to play pvp atm , i decided to play a few unranked games , before game starts our guard says hes going to bunk mid, i told him that he should be in team fights , so if they ignore mid just rotate to some place where the team fight is,
the reply was " im legendary your words are insignificant and have 0 value"
ok np i kep playing wtv , then we r fighting mid and ofc bunker is nowhere to be seen we are 2 vs 2 at one moment and my team mate runs away from point i was still full hp almost , and after he got stoped away from the point , i got this nice whispers , ,,,,,,,,
now pliz tell me how much can a player take before he decides to afk and say enough its enough , i would like to hear your opinions.

Lightsbane.9012:

Shaogin.2679:

I’d loke to see either Hammer or Torch next.

as long as either are a 1200 ranged power weapon, sounds good.

? Dont we have enough power weapons ?
Axe = power
Dagger= power
Gs= power
Septer= condi
Staff= suport

So i assume its going to be a condi weapon , or u want 4 power weapons vs 1 condi?
I also think it will be torch off hand with a 600 range

Only 3 classes play condi atm , necro, warrior and mesmer.
And necro is not a bunker by any means , warrior as more sustain now and yes i think they need a nerf inthe condi application not the bunker part, mesmer can bunk the best of the 3 but will give the capp and itsnot as bad as before.
I know there are other clsses playing condi but these 3 are usualy the ones that i feel are more suitable or optimal in teams for condi.
I think players confuse op stuff with hard counters.
If u ask to a thief whats op he will not answer the same as the warrior , what imtrying to say is atm there is no class that can sustain 1v2 and if u strugling with condi bring condi removal or just rotate some place else.
If i see im running a support build im not going to engage in a 1v1.

I think before cele ele was a problem because of good defense and strong ofense, but now i think there is no pure bunker, there is hard counters yes, but i think only scrapper needs a bit of a shave in the bunker part, and even so in a 2v1 situation i dont think there is any class atm that can hold like they could before.bring some dps or +1 some one and that "bunker " will die fast or at least give the capp fast.

Reaper Alim.4176:

Onlysaneman.9612:

I have nothing against putting in a resign button if the majority of a team wants to give up on a lost cause. However, when you go afk you do more than just decrease the odds of winning, you make any efforts by your teammates to enjoy the match, win or lose, much more difficult because a 4v5 will invariably snowball and lead to every person on your team getting swarmed 2 or more v 1 within the first minute of them being out of respawn. So now your team cannot even seek out 1v1s or get any entertaining fights in because they get zerged down for the remaining 5 minutes of the match. This denies newer players needed mechanical practice and denies anyone else the chance to get ANY feeling of satisfaction from the match, even the minor personal victory of winning a good 1v1.

Is getting paired with people worse than you frustrating? Of course, but it does not excuse throwing a tantrum.

Seems like the only ones throwing a tantrum are people like you on their high horse. Myself and others was being civil while you are like….

kitten you kittenters you should be banned for not trying your all in a lost cause match because you paid ANet to sacrifice yourself to make the game more enjoyable for other players that shouldn’t be anyway near matches you are in enemy or friendly team players to begin with.

We get it, people like you feel completely entitled to be carried by people like myself. And when we simply decide to not shoulder such burden after constant abuse by the system, yall come on the forums, throw tantrums, and make treads like these. And complain about the players that stopped putting in enoth effort to satisfied your fancy after the 3 or 4 of yall are repeatedly insta dying, or just purposely feeding the other team kills to throw the match.

And no you don’t get to say I don’t need to play ranked because you can’t carry your own weight. I’ll however offer a somewhat short term solution that might help a little. "How about players are not ALLOWED AT ALL to queue up for Ranked till they reach “PvP lvl 80.” Atleast we get rid of some of the newer players that feel self entitled to waste others players efforts.

I mean going into Ranked completely new and unaware of how to play pvp, is in my opinion worst then the players that just stop giving their all in lost caused matches. YOU ARE MOST OF THE CAUSE FOR THESE PLAYERS TO STOP GIVING THEIR ALL.

Lvl 80 its easy to get with tomes and buffs , i think u ment rank 80?
I actually just joined ranked when i was rank 40 and that was the old rank , not like now that u just breeze till rank 80.
I set that goal for myself so i woulnt be stomping clones or dying to svanir and such.
But these days playets just join ranked knowing nothing almost and dont understand why some of us go afk because of their actiln over and over even when u try to explain them simple things , they ignored u or even insult u.
But yes lets blame the guy that went afk when the game was lost.

There is hot joins and there is unranked also.
When some one goes afk because your team mates are double capping or dying to svanir or stomping clones like i had players last game and u dont have a single capp , u not going to win, if u keep playing u will have 0,02 percent to win and if u go afk then u have 0,01 thats the only diference, so since we are stuck in hotm when in que then they that time to go get a drink or something
Now on a more serious note, MM is bad, i think we can all agree on that, now some of us go afk when there is no chance to win, and some keep playing, but dont fool yourself, if u keep playing because i dont know , maybe u are a sado masochist or wtv u not gonna change the outcome or be any better than the guy that look at the game saw its 99,9 percent lost and went afk, u really cant blame that guy ( im talking in a situation when the game is lost ) there is no resign option, and some of us that can look and see its really lost , dont like to feed over and over.
I also play chess and im a ranked player my elo is around 2150 atm , and there is situation that even losing a pawn its enough to resign a game, ofc when u look and see the guy just resign u think " WTF THAT GUY JUST RESIGN? WHY HE JUST LOST A PAWN ,THATS NOTHING" but some one that can really see will understand it was a losing battle, wad a lost position and would understand.
Now back to gw2, when some decides to afk because the game its lost, u might not understand why and u blame him, but a loss its a loss and some prefer to resign.
Now if u want to improve , i mean really improve get a team, or join some duel servers, but pliz dont come here lecturing me to play untill the end when the game is clearly lost, i mean really lost, theres no point atm in gw2 to try like we could previous season , that a loss could still get u a pip.
Again i say and i keep repeating myself, lets fix the MM and add a resign option and u will see that afks will decrease by a lot .

shagwell.1349:

Maybe pvp isn’t for you then. I go into pvp for pvp, not for pips. That’s why I don’t afk if a match is bad.
“look, all the cool guys in legendary go afk” isn’t a valid argument. That just shows what happened to the community. You play only, when things go your way. As I said before “you lose a match, because your team mates are idiots” but going afk makes you one of these idiots and you should be punished as leavers are.
I won a lot of those “100:300 games” this season, because my team got their kitten together and we still won.
Yes, I lost a ton of those matches too, but going afk helps how? Exactly, it doesn’t.

Why gw1 had a /resign ? I dont get it ..
Pliz explain me why in gw1 that has better pvp than in gw2 there is a resign, according to u thats bad, players should play untill the end.
Players get upset because bad MM happens more often than good MM , if we had just 1 bad game once in a while then yes , lets just keep playing, but atm its game after game and after a few bad games players just cant take it anymore, u cant blame them, there os no reward for keep playing after u know its a loss, dont try to sound all goody goody, u will understand after u reach 25 000 pvp games like i have, untill then keep feeding son.

shagwell.1349:

Reaper Alim.4176:

shagwell.1349:

Legitimate reason: toilet.
Anything else is just an excuse to not want to play a game. You still can leave the game if you think your team is bad or players are bad or anything else.

Take away dishonor and I bet you’ll see many of the afkers just flat out leave.

But really the childish self entitlement that people on these forums feel, about trapping players into matches they know is a lost cause is very funny and sad at the same time.

I say it again, you have the right to force players into failcade matches as such. So players that get forced into said matches have the right to not give their all( typing the middle mouse button and running right into mid to insta die like the rest of your team was anyways.)

If you can’t stomach such a fact that even ANet has then kitten fool I feel very sorry you domesticated fool.

Then don’t play pvp. PvP is often one-sided. In every pvp game that is out there. You win some, you lose some. You have good team mates or bad ones. If you have bad ones, why should you be able to leave without being penalized for that?
By being afk or leaving you destroy every slight chance of your team to maybe make it at least a good game or even win in the end.
Why? Because it’s your inflated ego telling you “we lost the first fight and I DID SO WELL, while my team sucks”.
And yes, you should be punished for throwing games, as you should be punished for bad language. In any game outside the internet, your team would kick you out for such behaviour. On the internet it’s ok? No, you behave like an idiot, you will be treated like one.

Yes, the mmr system in GW2 is terrible. You know that. If you know that and want to deal with it, go and play and play to win. If you don’t want to play games were you get stomped, play something else but stay away from ranked.

No one is trowing anything , the game is lost an du just give up , read my comments abouve, if you team decides to double an dtriple capp an dthen u have a dc , WTF WOULD U KEEP PLAYING?
are u all …………. SOME GAMES U JUST CANT WIN , IF U LOSING EVERY F……..ING TEAM FIGHT IF YOUR TEAM IS DOUBLE CAPPING AND PERMA DOWN , WHAT CHANCE DO U HAVE?
no point to keep playing , thats why players afk.
look at players streaming, they play the best and they just cant win so they afk , how can u blame the only sane person in the team , if u want to keep feeding go ahead , but pliz kitten , u really sound like an amber player.

ok i was just in a game , and before game even started i was ask if i was going to afk, previous game i had a ranger double capping whole game and when the game was 400- 200 i stoped , and i reply i would if i had the same type of players double capping points.
game starts and i get players double and triple capping close.
now i want to ask to all this players asking for afkers to get punished, what will u do in this situation?
would u blame the afker or the kids double and triple capping trwing the game?
i mean they r playing right? they are double and triple capping but they are playing so its ok?
and the guy that said f…….. this and goes afk gets the banned?
think about that

i think we just running around in circles.
the thing is this , game starts , every one plays , fair enough , but…… after lets say 2 minutes the score is 300- 30 with no caps for your team and u loosing every team fight, pliz tell me do u really think its fair to drag such a game?
really?
come on… clearly MM is not working if such thing happens, this is why players afk , no 1 afks because they want to lose, they afk cause game its lost, problem is some of u cant see game its lost , and want to force every 1 to play a lost battle, why respawning and after 30 seconds die again? over and over and over?
is that fun? its not ..
So lets all just relax a bit and see the real problem here , macth making needs to improve a lot and i mean a lot….

also if u would give the power to kick some 1 out, then 4 players could just troll 1 player even tho he was not the reason they lost.
i know its a hard problem this one , but with all this class stacking and premades vs solos its really hard not to afk , just had a game vs a team with 2 thieves my team had none we won 500- 50 , would u blame them for afk mid game?

just finish a game 10 seconds ago game starts our warrior has all signetes i thought ok np, i target him because i already could see teh outcome, after 30 seconds 1 of us dcs , 3 minutes into the gamne we r 4vs 5 no caps 350- 50 and the warrior still running around with the target from start, means none of us even target them in team fighst , game ended and we lost we were all solo players vs a 4 men premade, and yes i akitten 350 -50 with 4vs 5 , now tell me i need to get banned ??
REALLY?

no reaper is more dependent on team comp cause he can only suk teh damage no way to negate it.

atm ele, having an ele vs a team with no ele , u will see the diference.
mesmer is also up there if played well

suffish.4150:

There is nothing Anet can do about afk players except punishing those that are reported and even that will never eliminate the problem completely. I just accept it as part of the game to be honest and I never care if someone goes afk, even if we were going to win the game, sometimes when someone is afk, my team just talks about the game and random stuff to pass the time until the game is over which is nice.

Although, afk players should not exist, there really isn’t much that anyone can do about it- players will afk if they are angry or (I find this one funny) to ‘punish’ players who they thought played bad in previous games. Best thing to do is to not get bothered by it- afk works in your favour as much as it works against you.

about your comment about players afking to punish others, i feel its more about , u get the same bad player 6 games ina row and u just give up on the 7th because u cant take it anymore. but wtv blame the afk players

Skullface.7293:

To all the AFK fans I have a message:

“If you are playing a game just to do nothing then you should not be playing this game at all, you are wasting 9 other player’s time of their life by doing so. The only way to get better and hopefully win is to not give up, which you are clearly not doing. If you’re so bad at this game then go hit mobs in PvE if it makes you feel like a champ and let the people who want to play Conquest alone. "

why do u think players afk?
u dont start 4vs 5 they afk later because there is no /resign

ask anet to fix MM then u can talk.

also i bet u r the type losing 400- 20 with no caps and when some 1 goes afk , " o nooooo look at him hes afk report him fast , report him,,,,"

dude just ………

how can u blame some 1 for going afk with this MM ?

anet needs to fix this maxth making , its impossible for me atm not to rage in pvp , the skill lvl its …………… game starts i go close , mesmer double capps , when im starting to move i see a warrior coming , so i stayed , when the warrior arrived at our point OUR MESMER LEFT, i thought ok wtv.
2 minutes into the game we had no capps ,our thief said at start " im going far an di will win 1 vs 1 " he went far alright but then ran away he didnt get far we lose mid , our rev was of point fighting we were outnumber mid , i respawn to see mesmer looking at their warrior on our close , i thought he was waiting for some + 1 , when i made my way to close i could see our mesmer running away again from it, their warrior actually whisper me saying " your mesmer is pathetic hes just bad"
we lost badly that game , and i saw that mesmer was legendary .

Atm there is a big "wtv mentality in pvp " special if u reach legendary , or maybe he was just really really really bad.
anyway , pvp atm its crazy and its due to this lack of interest from the anet to try to fix core problems like the ones i said before.
Players r not trying to win games once they reach legendary, 0 comunication , o rewards, bad MM , its really crazy that we got to this point in pvp .
The game atm its just cursing in game and saying u are a scrub , u are bad , fo etc etc etc etc…..
And ofc i understand why , games are umplayable and after 2 minutes or so we know whos going to win cause there is no interest to try to get as much points as possible cause we lose by 1 or we lose by 400 no diference.
so game is 300- 100 no capps players just afk thast it , players reach legend they dont care anymore if there is some poor guy still trying to do his best to get that legend for the wings or wtv.

Again i want anet to understand that thi id because of the macth making nothing else.

Look at my sugestions abouve to try to fix MM .
And try to give some incentive for players to keep fighting untill the end AND keep playing after they reach legend .

GS is too slow, and short range on top of that.
For me to pick gs they would have to make the aa faster and had some leap or teleport to it.
The game is all about rotating fast, u need mobility , there is no place for GS atm in pvp.
Doesnt matter if u can 15k grave diggers, the weapon is so so slow and so short range that its not worth it.

Its not just the fact that the system stacks classes, its deeper then that, im talking about a system that puts solo players vs 4 men premades and duos vs 5 men premades, im talking about having on the same team players that insta die and double capp and die to svanir while others are wining 1vs 2.
Do u think MM is working ok?
This is why im giving feedback to anet, so they can understand this mess and fix it.
Because i really think in season 4 only players that didnt get the wings yet will be playing.
Ask yourself are you having fun in pvp?
Im not, and for that im here posting.
I used to play much more pvp, and now i barely play , and when i play i actually play unranked.
I play other classes , but not every one plays, and we shouldnt have to compensate game afted game for this bad MM.
Also not every one can play every class with the same skill.
So lets try to get anet to fix MM.

TheBlackLeech.9360:

Prince Vingador.8067:

again game starts 4 thieves in my team vs a well balance comp for them, we were all solo .
why does anet put 4 thieves in 1 team and one in the other? or even 0 in the other?
i really dont get it.
ofc players are gonna rage, this is pathetic , we r lost from start already ,we lost 500- 200 and there is nothing we could have done.

Guess what? You are being ranked with the players who don’t reroll at the start of a match….. because you are one of the players who doesn’t reroll at the start of a match….
Surprise?

If you ever find yourself on a team with multiples of the same class where nobody can reroll and you happen to be one of those people…. you are part of the same problem you’re complaining about.

Team comp is just as important as knowing how to play…. and if you don’t know to/have the ability to swap to something to help make your comp more ideal then you belong in the MMR gutter with the rest of the people like you.

MMR gutter? people like me?
dude i reach legend in teh first 3 weeks , im legendary already 1 month ago, i hav enps geting to legend, my problem is MM that is a mess, why anet doesnt put 2 thivs vs 2 thievs?
why premades vs solos?
why players double capp?
this is my problem , nothing else.

come on anet really? REALLY?
had a game just now my team all solo players , their team a 4 men premade .
game starts the 2 thieves i had on my team double capped home.
anet pliz tell , how is this not enough reason to afk and stop pvp , do u really think this i sfun?
game after game with this crap?
u think your MM is working ok?

again game starts 4 thieves in my team vs a well balance comp for them, we were all solo .
why does anet put 4 thieves in 1 team and one in the other? or even 0 in the other?
i really dont get it.
ofc players are gonna rage, this is pathetic , we r lost from start already ,we lost 500- 200 and there is nothing we could have done.

game just ended 500 -113 .
gg i guess

im just in a game with 2 thieves again on my team ofc , game starts they all skipped close , they insta died at team fight and warrior went chief we have no caps and the score is 350- 90 .
great game .

Zelulose.8695:

Prince Vingador.8067:

Zelulose.8695:

TheBlackLeech.9360:

you should even out at a 50/50 win loss once you hit the spot where u belong.

Until you get to that point, you should be steadily climbing.

Wrong that is not how MMR works. The more you win the worse team mates your are given to balance the Team MMR It in reality is trying to force you to have a 50/50 win-rate regardless of your division. The only advantage you have is having a whole team that is above your division to beat this kind system. otherwise the more you lose the better players you are paired with. The more you win the worse players you are pared with. Fortunately there is one good thing. The players are relatively close to your division so you aren’t pairing legendaries with sapphire.

thast not true.

according to anet the game finds 10 players , then it puts the best 5 in 1 team.
so if u keep winning , u will b ein the team with the best players.

I thought they changed that but I could be wrong. In anycase, if this is true then how do they find the best 5? score? or win/loss. Because if it is win/loss teams would never ever mix up and people would be losing just because their stuck on the losing team. Its just a hunch but I’m pretty sure their not doing that since the mmr system got implemented.

they find , according to anet by MMR and your oponents with a 15 pip range

Zelulose.8695:

TheBlackLeech.9360:

you should even out at a 50/50 win loss once you hit the spot where u belong.

Until you get to that point, you should be steadily climbing.

Wrong that is not how MMR works. The more you win the worse team mates your are given to balance the Team MMR It in reality is trying to force you to have a 50/50 win-rate regardless of your division. The only advantage you have is having a whole team that is above your division to beat this kind system. otherwise the more you lose the better players you are paired with. The more you win the worse players you are pared with. Fortunately there is one good thing. The players are relatively close to your division so you aren’t pairing legendaries with sapphire.

thast not true.

according to anet the game finds 10 players , then it puts the best 5 in 1 team.
so if u keep winning , u will b ein the team with the best players.

In theory it sounds nice and fair that u will reach your place and u will get a 50 /50 win chance.
But thats not whats happening, i feel there is always a big gap in each team , i mean there is even a huge gap in the same team players, the population must be really small, because something is really wrong, i understand we should get a bad game now and then , but the problem is that its game after game, and i mean with me beeing on the winning team (some times i get like 20 wins in a row, an dsomething like 10 losses or so and there is nothing that could be done to win such games).
It feels like a lottary, if the game wants u to win u will win, i mean i won game 4vs 5 even , so if we won 4vs 5 , imagine if it was 5vs 5 .
There is no point for me to show u a 50 picture slide , with the last 50 games , because there is no explanation for such team comps and results.
Atm the players having fun in pvp are the minority, all i see its complains, and most of them are right, MM is a mess, there is 0 fun in pvp .

NO MM atm is really bad , i stoped a few weeks ago i did fractals and www and also some of the new pve maps.
i started again today to play pvp .
im legendary so i join unranked , cause i dont want div 5 coming to the forum crying that legendaries are not trying hard enough to win.
first game i got 2 thievs in my team vs no thievs in the other team , i said ok np lets try anyway, but one of the thieves had less then 20 pvp games ofc he was perma down and dying far 1 vs 1, ok we lost np .
next game i got again the same thief , i played again and we lost badly again , the thief actually apologise saying hes only 15 pvp games , ok np lets play , we lost badly again.
next game i got him again and again we lost , on the 4th game he was vs me and he lost 500- 70.
Then 5th game i got him again , i can say i loss all the motivation to play like u can imagine , if im 1vs 2 and the thief hes dying over and over , its upseting , then on the 6th game i got him again .
So i lost 5 out of 6 games because anet cant fix this macth making.
IM not blaming the thief , im blaming this MM, i cant believe that in 6 games anet couldnt find a better player .
Why is class staking so common ?
why anet puts players with so big skill gap in the same team or vs them?

i would like to say to anet that i will not be playing 4th season , this is no fun to any one, games end 500- 50 way to often, no balance , long ques , players with 0 clue in the team really anoys me , because i know that i will get them for the next 4-6 games .
how can players not afk ?
Game is already decided before even begins.
This leagues really need to change .

NO SOLO PLAYERS VS PREMADES ( GIVE US A SOLO QUE)

NO CLASS STAKING

NO RERROLS ( TO ALOW ANET TO PUT DIFERENT CLASSES IN TEH GAME)

BALANCE GAMES ( DONT MAKE A TEAM FAVORIT TO WIN BY THAT MUCH (500- 50 ITS REALLY NO FUN TO ANY ONE)

GIVE US SKILL TEMPLATES

LET US QUE OUTSIDE HOTM

DONT PUT PLAYERS WITH 10 PVP GAMES WITH SOME ONE WITH 25 000 PVP GAMES.

Ask yoursef why a player would afk.
Then fix the problem
And no 1 will ever afk, sounds simple.
U can see even this top esl players afking during stream.
Some games u just cant win because of so bad team mates.
FIX MM

shadowpass.4236:

Caed said himself at the end of the game that the game wasn’t fair. As for the rest of you, if you want to test my skill you can 1v1 me on any class I play lol.

I posted this because my teammates really don’t have the skill to go up against higher tier players and its not fair to have blowout matches like these. Some players don’t deserve to be in legendary, they got lucky or carried by another legendary and it ruins the fun for people who are actually trying to have a good time. The game should match good players with good players, not good with bad, as that frustrates the good players since they are forced to play with really crappy teammates who have no idea what they’re doing.

Personally, I can fight esl players just fine, if you guys really want to test yourselves against me I’m all for it.

PM @ S H A D O W F A L L if you want to 1v1

I dont get it so u are a pro 1v1 and your team scored 5 points?