Guild Wars 2

player get upset with afkers because , they think every one afks for the same reason.
if u afk because the game is lost , its ok.
if u afk because u dont like the map , then u should get banned 72h.
just got 2 games in a row with the same player that akitten cause he didnt like the maps that were picked.

vesica tempestas.1563:

CureForLiving.5360:

How about this, if the match is 5 minutes in and you’re 200 or 300 points behind, just give us the ability to forfeit the game. At that point it’s pretty clear you’re not going to win. Best then to end it quickly and hope for better in the next match.

this is fail. why not just enjoy the fight and support your team who may still be trying hard. Just because you lose doesn’t mean its not fun. Asside from this, if they are so far ahead the game will end shortly in any case. – unless you rally and turn it into an epic battle ofc.

Lol, so let him feed and try hard alone.
So we r losing 400-20 no capps, and 4 of us stop playing , but this try hard says " o no u are all afk, play or i will report u" should all 4 start feeding then? Because of a blind player?
If the game is lost then its lost, just relax a bit and hopefully all 5 will agree on a resign option.

CureForLiving.5360:

yanniell.1236:

Can only work if the team that gave up don’t get any reward at all, otherwise people would just queue with a 5 premade and give up within 10 seconds of the start of the match to farm the points and silver.

That would be the idea behind having a time limit before being able to forfeit. Matches are 15 minutes, I think 5 minutes, or maybe 10?

The thing is, that no matter what anyone says the way getting points works means that unless you’re on Legacy of the Foefire late game comebacks are rare and far between.
Ok so you’re 5 minutes in match is 100 : 300. That means one team needs 200 points to win the other 400 hundred. Now 1 second is 1 point, 3 points in a game. Now that means that the 100 team will need to hold all 3 points to win, they’d need to hold it for just over 2 minutes, if they’re only able to hold 2 points then both team reach 500 after 3 minutes and this is ignoring the fact that you’re up against a team that in 5 minutes was able to get a 200 point lead on you.
I can’t be the only person who realizes this? The only way to allow for more late match comebacks is to have more foefire like mechanics, but that wouldn’t exactly be a good fix.

actually its the oposite, its super hard to comeback in legacy.
that map snowballs hard, and most of the time u lose the mid fight and its game over.

i want to be clear , that when i say its ok to afk , i mean its ok to afk when the game is lost.
if a player afk because their map didnt win , then im afraid they should get a time out from pvp , like 72h time out.

Deihnyx.6318:

Prince Vingador.8067:

Leading them?
U must be new to the game, it doesnt matter what u say or write or even draw in the minimap, player are gonna go where they want over and over to die.
And on top will insult u for saying anything when u trying to help them.
Also u cant lead any one when the team loses every team fight, and afk at points.
Sometimes i feel most of u not even play the same game really…
There is some game that it doesnt matter what u do, because u have so bad players and so bad team comp , that u are going to lose no matter what, im serious , pliz think a bit and realize this.

Thanks, that was funny to be called new to the game.

That’s also funny to claim that the bad players are the one insulting those who try to help, I don’t know in what dimension you live but it’s not mine.
In my world, whenever a team loses, there’s gonna be one or two smartkitten to tell you that you play bad, that this game is the worst they’ve even seen and that you should go back to pve. Yeah, that’s random “constructive” criticism by a typical wanna-think-he’s -good player.

I’m one of those players who don’t feel the need to remind everyone they’re bad whenever they make mistake, I’m not the worst and definitely not the best, I just enjoy playing. I understand that it sounds like I’m new for people who are used to the toxic environment, I personally never got used to the level of immaturity in pvp.

Is there a question there?
U not even had anything to the discussion.

Game is lost when u see u lose every team fight, u see u have no caps, the score is 400-30 , then yes u are alowed to afk, because the game is lost, and no point to try hard or feed.
Is this so hard to understand?
I see this happen almost every 4th game or so , 1 team gets 4 esl players the other 4 new players, and there is nothing u can do, how can u blame a guy to go afk like this?

Rolisteel.1375:

If the player stops trying then he is weak personality and giving up everything too easy don’t really want to play just want some ego boosting wins to have success atleast in a video game if can’t have it in real life. So that kind of peoples just want wins so bad while not really having fun in the game. They probably once was players that raged at other players but they are on new level now. They just go afk instead of raging at other players, but there are also creatures that afk and raging at players keep playing/trying.

Its not a matter of weak personality, its just u cant win that game, u are far 1v2 for 3 minutes and u look at the map and u see your team cant even decap mid or close and are always dead, thete is like 400- 30 score.
And u just go afk, do u think its fair that some of the other team mates start insulting u and reporting u for afk?
They will cause they cant see whats going on, but that doesnt mean u need to just keep feedind in such game.
U need to understand the other guy point of view also, if u want to keep feeding ok man go and die over and over, but dont rage at the poor guy that soend whole game 1v2 while the rest couldnt do anything, and with such score diference and 0 caps maybe afking should be alowed in such situation, since u dont gain anything for trying hard , there is no resign option and the game is lost.u see some of us know when enough is enough thats all, and we just have to agree to disagree, im sorry bud.

Solstace.2514:

Prince Vingador.8067:

U know why its so hard to ban afkers?
Because they know there is not a / resign option, and some games u get ,so so so bad players that even if u were the best pvper in gw2 u still wouldnt win, so they just stop trying, since there isnt any reward for trying hard.
U can see this esl streamers doing the same, they get flustrated and they afk.
Ask anet to fix MM then u woudnt see afkers.
Come on some games u know that is really impossible to win i mean really impossible, u have a poor comp, bad players , and its a lost.
U cant just ban players for stop trying when the game is 100 % lost.
Maybe u cant see when the game is lost and u see a player afk, and u got upset and u come to the forum to cry cause u didnt understand why he did it?
I tell u what send me a few cookie recepies and i will give u a few tips i have heard u are good in the kitchen

Or maybe they just need to put their big boy pants on and realize they can’t always have great team mates to carry them. Losing is a part of life.

I agree we cant always win.
But i would like to have 10 players of equal mmr.
And if the game is lost , u see that is really lost, like u said , " u cant win all the games" right? Why u get upset if the player stops trying?
IF ITS LOST ALREADY?

Deihnyx.6318:

Prince Vingador.8067:

U know why its so hard to ban afkers?
Because they know there is not a / resign option, and some games u get ,so so so bad players that even if u were the best pvper in gw2 u still wouldnt win, so they just stop trying, since there isnt any reward for trying hard.
U can see this esl streamers doing the same, they get flustrated and they afk.
Ask anet to fix MM then u woudnt see afkers.
Come on some games u know that is really impossible to win i mean really impossible, u have a poor comp, bad players , and its a lost.
U cant just ban players for stop trying when the game is 100 % lost.
Maybe u cant see when the game is lost and u see a player afk, and u got upset and u come to the forum to cry cause u didnt understand why he did it?
I tell u what send me a few cookie recepies and i will give u a few tips i have heard u are good in the kitchen

Maybe if said players were trying to help their team by leading them instead of just being toxic, they would get a win.

Was trying to get capri achievment yesterday, we got a really good player with us, we lost the first 2 times and he bossed us to do better (like where to stand, what strat).
The only time we lost after that was against a pro guild.

What you call good player isn’t what I’d personally call a good player. A good player must be able to understand that not everyone has his experience and should be able to teach with a few words.

Back on the topic, reason for a lot of afk right now in unranked is cause anet screwed up and we have teams fighting over achievements for capri/coliseum. The player base is immature as hell but I totally blame Anet for not having seen that coming.

Leading them?
U must be new to the game, it doesnt matter what u say or write or even draw in the minimap, player are gonna go where they want over and over to die.
And on top will insult u for saying anything when u trying to help them.
Also u cant lead any one when the team loses every team fight, and afk at points.
Sometimes i feel most of u not even play the same game really…
There is some game that it doesnt matter what u do, because u have so bad players and so bad team comp , that u are going to lose no matter what, im serious , pliz think a bit and realize this.

U know why its so hard to ban afkers?
Because they know there is not a / resign option, and some games u get ,so so so bad players that even if u were the best pvper in gw2 u still wouldnt win, so they just stop trying, since there isnt any reward for trying hard.
U can see this esl streamers doing the same, they get flustrated and they afk.
Ask anet to fix MM then u woudnt see afkers.
Come on some games u know that is really impossible to win i mean really impossible, u have a poor comp, bad players , and its a lost.
U cant just ban players for stop trying when the game is 100 % lost.
Maybe u cant see when the game is lost and u see a player afk, and u got upset and u come to the forum to cry cause u didnt understand why he did it?
I tell u what send me a few cookie recepies and i will give u a few tips i have heard u are good in the kitchen

They should give necros " empathy from gw1" since we are ment to get hit and according to devs " necros want to get hit " empathy was really strong , u had to stop atacking, a thief would kill himself in 4 secs if he wouldnt stop atacking.
Skills in gw1 are much more fun.
And u have loads to pick.

Zintrothen.1056:

The system still places people of different skill together. This is partly because matchmaking is kittened up from previous seasons and giving bad players high MMR. So the actual good players end up playing with people they shouldn’t be forced to play with. If Anet would just reset MMR at least for season 5, we could start fresh with a better system that attempts to give quality matches. I mean matches won’t fun until balance is improved too, but reseting MMR is a good start.

If they reset mmr it would be a mess.
We would need like 5 more seasons for the mmr to stabilise.
Its hard enough as it is.
I suggest not putting players with 10 games vs players with 25k+ that would help a lot.
Also preventing class stacking, or rerroling after u get into the map.
Im sure anet will know better, i cant sugest sacrificing waiting ques , since my ques are already 1h long , but something needs to be done.
Its super rare where u get a game with 10 players of equal mmr.

I win many 1vs2 and sometimes even 1v3.
A couple of games ago i won 1vs2 me as reaper vs a warrior+ engie TWICE IN THAT GAME.
1vs2 its commun and 1vs3 its very rare but also happens.
Now before u all come and atack me and say its not possible, well its very possible, and the reason beeing very very poor macth making.
U get in the same game a player that is top player and another that has 10 pvp games , this is why its possible, because players of equal skill lvl cant do that.
Its possible to hold yes , thats not so hard 1vs2 just holding, but to actually win 1vs2 nope.

The OP is right, and we can see this " target the necro thing" well at the start of the game.
0 life force, with 0 blocks and invuls, u get a thief and rev teleporting to u and u are dead.
Its super easy to lock the necro, 0 reflects , 0 vigor its just too easy.
Lets hope anet give necros something so they are able to desingage and not insta die .
Problem also is that most necros just jump at mid fight vs 3 and ofc get insta killed that also doesnt help .

Hyper Cutter.9376:

I have yet to see a complaint about matchmaking that doesn’t boil down to “I’m not winning as often as I think I should, so clearly this is the game’s fault”.

I dont think losing that often or wining that often is the problem.
For me the problem is the huge skill diference between players in the same team.
Its not ok that 1 players wins 1vs2 and rest of team dies and cant capp anything.
Players wouldnt rage if all 10 players had a similar mmr, but thats not whats happening, u get 1 or 2 players that are really good and then u get players that double capp and insta die or +1 a 2v1 already leaving mid….. i mean really crazy stuff, and that is why players rage, too much skill diference , thats the real problem.

I think the OP has a point, players that pvp and stick to it even with so bad MM and got legend in all 4 seasons, should get a finisher, would be nice, not that it was any harder , but u still got to play the games.
Im only playing unranked atm , cause i dont think there is many players near prestige 3 and my ques are insanely long.
I hope anet will show some apreciation for the players still playing pvp and reaching legend, cause really pvp is a mess atm.

Some could say its because of bad balance, but i think that the main reason is because there is a huge skill diference between players.

Same with me.
Im 1vs2 and 1vs 3 and rest of team cant capp.
Doesnt matter i win all 1vs 1s or team fights, rest just insta dies.
Was the same last game , had this necro on the other team talking kitten whole game , at the end had a 1vs1 vs him and he died in 10 secs.
I mean if u ask here to any one if they are any good, they all say that they are top tier.
But the reality is other, there is a HUGE i mean really huge , skill diference in players in the same team or in the other team.
Over 50 pips diference or just game play diference.
Its not possible that players cant even target , its mind boggling.
How is this fun?
U see whole team is perma down, u see they dont win any team fights, they even double capp and there is nothing u can do, there isnt even a / resign option.
U can just feed over and over.
I decided to play a few unrankes games , and the problem is even more obvious, i have players even saying sorry, that are new, or wtv …..
I feel mach making is a lotary thats all.
3 games back i play a 4vs 5 from start we won, and their ranger even acuse me of cheating.
Problem is there is no MM, and this is why players get upset, its not because they lose, its because they see there is a huge gap in skill between players.
And its just a matter who has the worst thievs or more necros or more DH, because players cant think…..
But they all pros , this is what i dont get it.

No no u need to keep playing and feeding, doesnt matter u are behind 300 points with no capps, just keep playing , otherwise i report u for afk and blame u on the loss.

I have to agree here , imo druids are too tanky and the pet does a lot of damage.

Signet – i would like an unblockable signete that would alow the necro to change hp with your oponent, i think that would be hilarious, same as moa is an i win skill.

Well – i would like to see a ground teleport, that once u teleport u blind, torment and poison up to five targets in the area for 5 secs.

Players confuse smack talk with insults.
U will always have smack talk ingame, if u dont like dont play online games.
Words like crap, noob , nab , idiot, stupid …. is to be expected.
Insults towards your family and all this N words and such is not tolerated at least by me, and i will actually refuse to play with such type of " people" .

Krysard.1364:

The rune is played because of the avatar refill, not the heal itself. If it healed 1hp per second it would be used anyway.

Shhhhhhh

afrocrusade.4253:

what

git gud

it heals like next to nothing. are you also the kind of person to complain about druids being “~~~OP~~~” when you can’t dodge a pet attack?

Druids have a lot of sustain, and the pets its passive that hits like a truck.
And i think the small healing from the rune is not the real problem , but u are the pro right

Thief is fine , if u are one of the five players that can play it, yes thats right imo only 5 players in this game can play thief, i mean really play.
If u not then ofc its going to be hard for u, u just gonna die 10 times per game and ask for nerfs, i believe that to play thief u need to have a very good awereness and rotations skills and keep tags on all players and positions at all times.
Ofc most thievs cant do this and insta die to aoe or spend whole time 1v1 far in their point just to die.
Thief has all the tools to desingage , so u really shouldnt be dying that much but thats not what happen atm in solo q.
A few classes have so many passive blocks or invuls that makes them look better than thief , but the reason is because its hard to play thief, but make no mistakes in the right hands thievs are as usefull or better than any other class.
I see thievs and necros in the same place, they need normal team mates to play , so thief can rotate , if your team perma dies then ofc thief cant rotate well .
Imo these players that play thief and say they are or feel weak , are just not good enough with the class, imo its a class that really needs good awereness.

If u use gs in pvp u deserve to lose every game, gs is super slow with no range.
I dont see any necros running gs anyway in pvp, and thats for a reason.
Im sorry but gs its ment to pve , its just not possible to play pvp with gs with out dying like 10 times per game.
The weapon needs a teleport , some swifness and a reliable pull.
I think only nightfall its ok , rest i dont see it for pvp.
U need pure dps zerker to use gs, since is a power weapon, and since necros have no blocks or invuls , means u will insta die to another class.

better pvp comunity?

atm is like this, i get so bad players double capping and insta dying , i tell them pliz dont afk close go mid, or use the target ,,,,, and we lose bad , next game im vs some of them and they do the same thing, and they lose bad again, then on the 3rd game they are back on my team , and they are so kittened at me that this kitten happens even before game starts.
Its really impossible to play like this, this kids are super bad players , and on top they are so upset cause they are stuck in some lower divisions and such that they just go mad , all these insults will not help them in anyway .
i want anet to do something about this insults, because im serious im not going to play while i get this crap even before game starts .
then , after they see o crap hes not moving , lets spam chat to report him .
i want anet to be able to see this , and send some DHUM AVATAR like in gw1 and ban them .
i dont know if its just me , but really i cant bring myself to play with such kids .

Ithilwen.1529:

I don’t agree. Two seasons of stacked matches distorted MMR, sometimes wildly. No, the system doesn’t try to push a 50/50 win loss.

At present it ( finally ) tries to set up each match with each side having an equal chance. So this idea of “anyone can grind to the top” is 100% false.

So no, being in Legend doesn’t imply belonging there. Realistically it implies farming stronghold with a premade and/or riding a win streak through stacked matches. Being given a series of “gimmee” matches hardly qualifies anyone as “Legendary.”

I agree with the OP many players were lifted far above there true skill level. That, if anything, removed any “prestige” from Legend division.

My last five macthes i had in my team div 3, 4,3,legend, ( me prestige 2)premade of 3 esl and top players, even had players whisperimg me from the other team saying it was not a fair game.
I could post like 4 or 5 sreen shots of my last games , wher i had players from top team vs pugs , games ending 500- 50 and so on, pliz dont tell me MM makes even odds for both teams.
MM been bad for ages .
But wtv …….

I dont know at what times u loging in, but my ques are about 10 minutes plus minus 2 minutes.
I play between 17:00 and 21:00 gmt +3.

I didnt say i was better , i did say that he insults a lot that kid.
And i sent the reports to anet.
But this is not helseth , this is about findind a reason why players afk.
Cause no 1 would afk for no reason.

And why do they afk?
Just had 2 games in a row where i got players insulting me with racist commments.
I win them 1v1 or in team fights and they whisper me after insuling me.
Then i get them in my team next game and they just keep going on and on.
When is enough really enough and a player should just sat kitten it and stop playing?
Why are players alowed to insult others and get away with it?
Im talking to players like helseth for exemple that kid thinks hes the best in the world and insults players 24/7 .
Ofc in real life they wouldnt even talk back at u that nerd.
Problem is at least for me that i really hate bullies i really do and thats one one the reasons that im a martial arts instructor.
So i get so kittened at this kids writing all this racist remarqs and nothings gets done about it.
But if u stop and u afk cause of this kids then u are the reason pvp sucks and afm players should be banned and all.
But why not ask why they afk?
Game is 300- 20 no caps why are the players not alowed to afk?
There is 4vs 5 no caps why are we not alowed to afk?
Some 1 is insulting u and your family why are we not alowed to afk?
Its easier to blame the afker right ?
I sent loads of messages sreens emails, about certain players , but i still get them in my team.
I know u all pros and u all think u can insult every one and every one should just kitten and take the insults.
I just want to say that bullies never gained anything vs me in real life and will never gain anything in the game by beeing like that.
I do my best even tho im not a pro player i reached legend all seasons soloing in the first 2-3 weeks, so i really dont tolerate insults or racist remarqs of any kind.
Gl with your video game

Moa is a " i win skill" it cancels all other elites , im not even talking what it does to minion masters, thats just super unfair imo, i would like to see moa skill reworked, dont let continuum split afect moa and dont alow moa to cancel tranformations, and ofc why kill all minions?
It doesnt kill any of the other pets or summons.
Mesmers already have the best skill in the game portal,they dont need to have the second best also.

I agree… but what happens when u have an 100mb optic line and your conection is fine but u get dc from gw2?

atm is getting a bit impossible to play pvp , even tho im a few tiers to legend i dont feel like playing pvp , i get players 3vs 1 a thief , or players even getting down to svanir or double capping , how is this possible in 5th div?
just had a game we had 200+ points ahead in legacy with 2points , and thief decides to go lord alone , we get triple capped and we lose.

but the worse is this players that like to insult others non stop , and we cant post in the forum, i got 2 or 3 posts deleted + infraction for this.
i have sreen shots from last game , players beeing racist , and insulting , i tell them several times to stop , and they just keep going ,and there is nothing we can do, but if i afk cause of this kids then " o no look at our necro hes afk….. bla bla bla,,,,,"
i want anet to answer this question,

what is beeing done to players insulting others over and over and over….

when u afk cause your team is perma down or the game is lost then you are the reason they lost and u get reported, and how about this trols that just dont shut up and kitten me off during the whole game?
should i just take it?
i want to post the sreen shots i have for u to see whats hapening in pvp atm, and i want anet to tell me with a straight face if they would keep playing in such conditions……

Ofc necros r dying first we r the only class with no blocks or invuls or desingages, i play necro and i rarely die at start at mid fight, and im one of the last to die, ofc if they send a rev and thief to kill u then ofc u gonna die, i believe that a necro its so easy to lock down , since they r just a sponge with no reflects even that a bad necro would die in 10 secs in mid fight, its possible to mid and dont insta die u just need to be carefull and have normal team mates.
But i still think that its better to go mid then close if u play reaper. Thats just my opinion.

This is very bad advise, first u have 0 life force at start , meaning wining that 1v1 incase some comes is gonna be hard, and second " bunker close " really?
This is so bad advise u should never ever ever afk at point, your team is gonna lose mid then they will just ignore u or…. send 2 guys to insta kill u.
If u playing reaper u should go to the team fights.

Hanth.2978:

sophiewhite.3149:

i mean some games i do great. then most games i get wrecked by everything. esp warriors. im talking ranked pvp here.i try everything i give it my best. i try my hardest and yet it feels like other classes dont need to try at all. i feel like im dragging my team down.

The best advise I can give is just take home at the start and bunker down. You will be much more successful there in a 1v1 then going mid and getting nuked. If I see a necro on the opposing team in the beginning of a match and they go mid I just let the team know to blow them up at the start. It’s not just because of the fact they have next to no escape skills it’s just that if they are allowed to live they provide way too many problems for us with chills,fears, cripple etc.

Take home and dig in, not many classes can dig you out at home and if you need to support mid make sure and equip spec walk in case you need to get back home.

I like this treads, players say ban the afkers ,but why do rhey afk?
Just answer me… whats the diference between a player that sees the game is lost and afk ,and a player that is perma down, like he respawns and goes 1v2 to insta die over and over,?
According to some of u the afker should be burned alive get cancer and perma banned, and the feeder hes ok cause hes trying?
And if u tell me that u report the feeder for macth manipulation then u should report 99 % of gw2 cause thats what i see almost in all the games.
So its ok if hes just bad? Well yes ,but thats why we gonna lose and thats why some rather afk.
Again i say its a MM problem ,because anet put players with 0 pvp games vs/with players with thousands of games.
Pvp atm is so bad that its just upseting looking at some players play, this season there isnt even any title for legendary or even getting legendary all other seasons.
And yes to answer the question like some of u asking (cynz.9437 even tho this players really hes a bad player but wtv) i did get 2 times banned for 72h i think in the last 4 years ,and if u count gw1 i got banned like 3 times total in the last 8 years.
So anet does ban players for afking, its just a shame that they dont ban feeders and keeps putting so so so bad players with experienced players, and no im not a top player but neither are u 99% of gw2.

Ofc necros are having a hard time , when i get a necro in my team i know hes gonna go mid and tank all the aoe like a pro then dies in 3 secs.
Players ear this fight on point crap ,and thats what most necros do , they stand right in the middle of all aoe with 0 invuls and blocks , ofc u gonna die, playets play necr like they play warrior or guard and thats very wrong imo.
Why u take range weapons? To stand right in there face?
If u take a gun vs a knife u dont need to walk to the guy with the knife to shoot , u can do that from far.
Same in the game , i see all necros doing this mistake , game stars they rush mid last 7 seconds die and the team gets snowballed.
Its ok to go close when they r low on hp and u pop ds.
But players think necros have this 2 hp bars and can tank everything.
Having a bad necro or a bad thief on your team ,u will feel straight away.

Its obvious if u play mesmer u going to defend this skill, but when u r about to win and u get moa for 7 secs with stacks of condies on u , doesnt matter if u run , u gonna drop, 7 secs its a lot and i dont mean only in 1v1 , in team fights u get moa and your team snowballs the other team afterwords.
Moa counters all transformation elites and disables all your skills for 7 secs, its a very strong skill that carries games it really does, i think this skill should be reworked to give some counter play, cause atm its really a i win skill ,do u know that if u moa a minion mancer it kills all minions including the heal and his elite golem ?
Players dont like to lose control over their toon for 7 seconds ,imagine a 7 second fear that cant be sunbreaked? Its more than enough to kill that player even if hes full hp, doesnt matter he was going to win that mesmer that was about to die , u get moa or double moa and u die vs a normal player, while if u get vs other elite skills u can reflect or los or pop some invul , but while in moa u just move around like a …… asking to be insta killed, ofc its upseting ,try to understand.

Trigr.6481:

Prince Vingador.8067:

Trigr.6481:

Malediktus.9250:

Got condis on you —> get moad --> cant cleanse condis —> dead

when will this stupid skill finally be removed from the game. In some games I get moad 3+ times, its impossible to see in all the effect clutter

The two aren’t mutually exclusive, what you’re asking for based off your terrible logic is rubbish.

That’s like saying you want to nerf all crowd control effects because of the possibility of dying while you don’t have control over your character. When you come back with a better argument than effect clutter as a reason for a nerf, then we can continue this discussion. Until then…….

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Mesmer can spike very hard with condies and if u get cc like 1- 3 secs u might have time to react but when u get moa 7 seconds u cant use any skills and then u might even get moa again.
Moa is super strong in a 1v1 situation , and having loads of condies on u its almost for sure u will die, i think thats what he ment.

And? If you get hit with a large power attack while you’re in moa you’re still gonna drop, based off that logic, nerf moa…yeah ok good discussion.

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Not really since u have skills and runes with trsholds vs power atacks but how about condies?

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Malediktus.9250:

Got condis on you —> get moad --> cant cleanse condis —> dead

when will this stupid skill finally be removed from the game. In some games I get moad 3+ times, its impossible to see in all the effect clutter

The two aren’t mutually exclusive, what you’re asking for based off your terrible logic is rubbish.

That’s like saying you want to nerf all crowd control effects because of the possibility of dying while you don’t have control over your character. When you come back with a better argument than effect clutter as a reason for a nerf, then we can continue this discussion. Until then…….

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Mesmer can spike very hard with condies and if u get cc like 1- 3 secs u might have time to react but when u get moa 7 seconds u cant use any skills and then u might even get moa again.
Moa is super strong in a 1v1 situation , and having loads of condies on u its almost for sure u will die, i think thats what he ment.

Ofc im talking about players that take advantage of the players beeing moad.
I won duels vs mesmers that double moad me.
Moa is almost a i win skill, its very strong and if used correctly wins duels easy and team fights.

I believe that moa and portal are actually the strongest skills in the game, making mesmer almost a must have in teams.
Its really changes team fights.

Who can duel who……
This is all nice to have an idea about against who u could 1v1.
But in reality there is so many ifs that u should be thinking, first this is a team play and u should see what u could bring to the table to compensate whats lacking in your team, and that will make u less efective in some duels.
U need to look at your team and there team and see if u can skipp some condi cleanse or bring some protection insted vs those thievs etc etc.
Now its obvious that some players would win most of there duels but thats because of there skill and even tho they lack something in there build to deal with that class there mechanical skills or awereness or kiting skills will alow them to win regardless of build almost, but for the 99 percent of us its a bit diferent, and i think that trying to come up with a table showing who wins vs who its wrong and gives the wrong idea about the game imo.
Sometimes i run 1vs1 builds ,i go far as a necro and even with 0 life force i will win vs almost any 1 including warriors or mesmers , but how about when im running a support build ? And i chose to desingage or lose that 1v1?
The game is not balance to 1v1 , so anything can happen when u are in a duel ,because maybe the other player is running a counter build, with that said i think if u really enjoy dueling i think mesmer or warrior are the best classes to do so.
And if u just spec for 1v1 maybe u not helping the team so much and u would die a lot in team fights or not bringing enough support.

This is why its important to know when u can go for the rez or if u should cleave.
Just had a game when i arrive at point and had 2 team mates down but there was a guard and an ele cleaving them , i play necro and i started to cleave , to try to down the 2 of them since they were not full and i have no invuls to safe rez.
My team mates died and first thing the engi said was rez rez useless necro.
The engi was cava hes actualy an ok engi ,i was surprise how he coulnt see that going for the rez would get me almost insta killed, the thing is not every one understands when u should cleave or rez or even just run.
Many times i downed 2 or 3 players that ate trying to rez a player, because they are so blind in trying to rez that they all wipe causing a snowball efect.
I think the downstate its interesting if u know how to play around it.

There is no point to open such treds, just so a mod. Will close it in a couple of days.
There is 2 sides here , ok 3 if u count the legit dc.
There is those players that even if they r losing 400-100 and have no caps and they lose all team fights , that like to keep playing until the end and keep feeding over and over.
And then there are those that look at the bigger picture and see that in such situations u just cant win and afk.
Ofc those that cant see there are lost, dont understand why that guy went afk and decides to come to the forum and cry.
Im sorry but there are games that u just cant win, and since there isnt a /resign ,players just give up.
U can even look at 1 example , about the team 0 counter play , the game was just 60- 0 or so , and they stoped playing , cause they knew the game was lost.
Im not gonna go into details but u can look it up.
The thing is some games are lost and there is no incentive to keep playing.
Rage all u want, come and tell me to keep feeding and that u have an obligation to the team and all that.
But…. if the game is lost, and u can see its really lost due to losing all team fights and bad team comp and 400-0 with no caps u cant blame some 1 for afk , enough its enough, ask anet to fix the MM and class staking and such, then we can talk more.
Now i know some of u agree with me and some dont, and no 1 is going to change any ones mind.
I hope anet adds a / resign and a build template in this game.
Gl and see u ingame.

We do have a chance ,it just takes a bit more skill then most classes, because we lack active defenses, we can only soak damage.
Imo pvp its all about rotation and spike damage.
If as a necro u spec to pure glass u will just insta die almost , if u get target, this is why necros dont have a viable glass build.
Team needs to constantly peel for the necro and that needs resources, its easier to run an engi mesmer warrior rev and an ele or druid, because they can sustain much better while having the dps.
In solo que its fine, but in organize teams having a necro its a double edje sword.
Like i said there is a chance, but the team needs to be ready to do some serious peeling.

Its gonna be the same thing , whos legend will reach it again and who isnt will not reach it again.

Deimos Tel Arin.7391:

do you all realize you can click the “yes” button and then immediately click the “no” button and then exit the match ?

Im on my mobile and something went wrong last post.

Anyway i want to say that no , i dont realize because it doesnt work for the rest of us.
But maybe u can post a video explaining us how to do?
Obvious we not doing it right.

Best class to 1v1 its mesmer, folowed by warrior then comes the rest

i guess bip was need it this change wd anet, it was silly before with so long duration for 2 bleeds, its just too bad they take so long to see this things .
any way much better now .