Guild Wars 2

Carighan.6758:

The current LS is pretty lame, but even then only because I consume it in two-weeks intervals. One after the other or happening at once, it’d be pretty nifty. I think at this point the issue is their limited dev resources more than anything else. It feels like they cannot both develop content at a speed where we players accept it and get it QAd and write for it.

And its because of this, we get poor quality story shove to our face and one can tell that most of the stuff aren’t tested at all. Meanwhile, they promote gemshop stuff every update and basically saying “BUY OUR STUFF!” They might as well just get an expansion up or something that is permanent and before this, they need to get better writers.

Carighan.6758:

But really, GW1 wasn’t all that good on a lore perspective. The beginning was pretty nifty. The rest was fantasy treadmill. Which is ok for a MMO I suppose, but nothing to write home about.
Yet at the same time, I don’t feel that GW2’s story is weak, compared to other MMOs. Sure it’s weak compared to Planescape Torment, yeah. But I’m not playing PST as a MMO, which is a very different way to play from a “normal” RPG.

Just because other mmo’s story suck doesn’t mean this one should too. The way I see it, the writer tries to best themselves with every release in Guild Wars 1 standalones and content, one upping the other. It got to a point where I would consider that their best work is both the Eye of the North and Wind of Change with all the story, interaction, and content both gave to the players to do and witness. Obviously the story isn’t a steer masterpiece , like anything that Chris Avellone have written up, but the story of GW 1 is still entertaining, the world it brought is amazing and eye candy, and the skill set, my god, its kept me busy for hours of playing theoycraft and making so many builds with my characters and heroes.

Here? They are not kittening trying any more and basically goes “Scarlet did it”.

Kalavier.1097:

How is she wrecking the lore? I’ve already seen people in this topic (the only one I’ve read) skewing her backstory in ways that aren’t even HINTED at in the short story. At times, it looks like the people hating Scarlet are wrecking the lore to justify their hate of the character. (Such as saying she learned super carefully kept ‘trade secrets’ of the race, like a great hunt that the Norn totally don’t BOAST about publicly.)

Besides the Asura bit (which as said, it just saying “Coursework” and apparently the devs outright said she didn’t graduate the collages. She completed a course and earned a degree(in record time). Hell, the way it sounds to me is the “collages” are more like superguilds for Asura(Just like being in a specific legion for charr). You don’t ‘graduate’ from them at all really.

Also it’s a guy in the audio(He’s talking more then the other person, who I assume is Angel), and he did confirm that basically she was given a semester of work, completed it, and moved on. And that she FEELS she saw the universe. “It remains to see how much is accurate and how much is her broken pysche.”

Angel or Scarlet? In a sense, I would say both. For Angel, we got this whole thread dedicated on how Angel basically retcon or twisted the lore of Guild Wars 1 to its knees.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/lore/Angel-McCoy-Interview

Scarlet? There is a laundry list of lore breaking alliance, how she is accepted as a student to a bunch of racist characters in the stories so easily, and basically sticking the middle finger at the Asura Lore and how she get to learn from all the college, get to see their religion, and said she is the smartest person in the world. These stuff are mention, repeatedly, in any of the Scarlet thread out there. That audio interview did not change my view of her and it gets a lot worse from then on.

Carighan.6758:

Qawsada.4251:

Sarcasm aside, the good writers from GW 1 need to comeback and replace her.

The “good writers”. Excuse me, did you play the same GW1 I did?

They are sure as hell better than what is happening now. The story is much more compelling and it get better as it better til it hit the Wind of Change. I bet you are going to say “but Vizier is Oblivious eval” or “Kormir steal your godhood” crap or using buzz words like how cliche it is. That is a whole different topic that I could spend pages among pages.

Right now, we are talking about how horrible Scarlet is, how one of the LS writers is forcefully shoving her in every content, and how the players basically have zero way of stopping this.

Singer.8740:

I am not crazy for scarlet but do not hate her ether.

The next person who says “Scarlet did it” however better give a very detailed explanation of what “it” is because quite frankly no one knows what she has up her sleeve and its getting annoying.
Also the term Mary sue is getting thrown about to much. reality is she is not one.
here.

http://wartower.tumblr.com/post/60458277036/this-lorespecial-is-about-scarlet-briar-the-evil

An in depth discussion about scarlet briar with the story devs. Makes allot more sense than most of the biased drivel in these Scarlet hate posts.

Yes, because listening to Angel McCoy talking about how awesome her Original Character ™ is while wreaking the lore a new one just to make her exist is consider “acceptable”.

Sarcasm aside, the good writers from GW 1 need to comeback and replace her.

Ariance.8340:

I agree with you. Scarlet sucks. But her existence has hinted that there is another pale tree in the west.

Or they could just bring up Malyck, a Sylvari from another tree, to do that for us, and he is a MUCH better character than Scarlet. If you do not know who Malyck is, he is in the Sylvari Storyline if you chose Where Life Goes in the character creation.

lordkrall.7241:

It does?
I was under the impression that she came form the standard Pale Tree.

She was based on the Fanfic in the official site and ingame from the stupid tree herself.

I use to frequent the Fractal up until the update. I never ask for the crap that Anet did by shoving a living story to it. Even worse, they shove kittening Scarlet in it. Now its permanent into the fractal and I cannot enjoy it anymore because SHE EXIST IN THE kittenING FRACTAL. For god sake, they could add more lore for the asura and inquest but no, they add kittening Scarlet in it.

Within a week, all the zerg pve players will leave and the Fractal Players will get all the crap from the Living story that was left behind.

Mad Queen Malafide.7512:

If the writers turned the tables, and made Scarlet an ally, I would like her more.

I doubt that would be the case at all. The crap she done to the game made her extremely unredemptionable.

Treeline.3865:

Qawsada.4251:

Thaumanova
-Remove Scarlet. She doesn’t need to be there at all. Let it be an all asura fractal.

Don’t you have enough threads about that?

There never enough. When someone shove a lore breaking character into something I like to do in my spare time, then I turn full forum warrior for this crap.

Thaumanova
-Remove Scarlet. She doesn’t need to be there at all. Let it be an all asura fractal.

Arenanet listen because the Flamekissed armor was a gemshop item that would get Anet more money. Thats it. They STLLL didn’t listen about the bugs that still roams the game or the part where everyone hates Scarlet.

Me? I stop using real life money when Scarlet appears and I intend to not use it when you keep shoving that weed into every game update and destroy the foundation of the game just to keep her here.

lordkrall.7241:

And you have no proof of that, so stop claiming it as facts in order to try to discredit her.
It is actually quite likely that she was writing the main story-line of GW2 as well, including Halloween, Wintersday and the rest of those beloved releases.

Its funny you mention that:

https://twitter.com/John_J_Ryan/status/273536268216983552
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/archive/bam/Tassi-s-VA-and-the-writer-of-this-Event/

It wasn’t Angel but John Ryan. And you know what? John wrote a MUCH MORE compelling villain than what Angel could ever “dream” of.

lordkrall.7241:

Seems like she was not actually part of the Live Team in GW1. So we will simply have to accept that we do not know if she was involved in the writing there or not.
But claiming that she did literally nothing from 2007 to 2012 is quite silly and you don’t have anything at all to back that up with.

She play GW 1 to count as her job, write stuff that were rejected, and was only active recently with the Living Story and the Retcon of Guild Wars 1.

I say, she did nothing until the Living Story occurs.

lordkrall.7241:

And once again people completely disregards fact in order to keep up their unnatural hatred of a character.

We KNOW Scarlet worked with the Inquest.
We KNOW she was kicked out due to something.
We KNOW that the Reactor is an Inquest Installation.
Thus it is quite easy to connect the dots and see that Scarlet being there makes absolute sense.

Except this is shoehorning a character when Anet should have just expanded on other inquest. Scarlet have shown her ugly face for months, destroying lore left and right, and players are freaken tired about it. This is middle finger to the fractal runners and those that wanted Asura to Asura action when these players vote for Kiel.

lordkrall.7241:

And where do you have any kind of proof about this?
Or are you just making stuff up to support your crusade against Angel?
Because the only thing you have linked talked about what she did BEFORE she was hired, as in BEFORE 2007.

Better yet, do YOU have proof Angel was part of the Beyond story? Last time I check, Angel was hired for GW 2 when Anet was moving on from GW 1 at 2007 after they rushed EotN. I already link mines. Maybe you should too.

lordkrall.7241:

She was hired as a WRITER in 2007.
Are you going to claim that she sat down and did NOTHING AT ALL for 5 years?

She talks about PRIOR to her employment, which wold mean BEFORE she got hired in 2007.

That is exactly what I said. She wrote stuff, the “smart” dev of Anet rejected them, and she have to wait for years until she made the Living Story.

lordkrall.7241:

Based on information from ArenaNet themselves she official joined (which would imply started working with) the writing team in 2007, the THREE YEARS before they released the first part of Beyond, so I would say it is very likely that she was involved in the writing of those parts.

Again, read this particular part:

“Prior to my employment, I was a GW player for several years. I did some freelance at that time for ArenaNet to help write a GW atlas that never actually got published, but it meant that I spent a lot of time learning the world. "

She wasn’t part of the Beyond team. Chances are, either Angel is getting paid to play the game or was part of the giant bulk that was GW 2 that they were making. From what I can tell, I would say she was idling by until 2012, at least.

lordkrall.7241:

And where in that article does it say anything about when she started working with them for real or whether or not she was involved in Beyond?

Hint: there wasn’t. Angel literally say that playing the game count as her contribute to GW 1. Thats it. Her ideas were rejected at the time but god know what happen a year or so later when someone let her in charge of doing GW 2 Living Story.

lordkrall.7241:

People seems to ignore the fact that Angel was already at ArenaNet back when Beyond was created, and people always kept saying how awesome the Beyond Chapters were.

Playing the game does not count as working. She did not contribute to the Guild Wars Beyond and anytime she did try to “contribute” during the Beyond, it was turn down.

Learn to read:

Prior to my employment, I was a GW player for several years. I did some freelance at that time for ArenaNet to help write a GW atlas that never actually got published, but it meant that I spent a lot of time learning the world. My point is that I love Tyria every bit as much as you do, and I’ve dedicated almost as much time as many of you have to it.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/lore/Angel-McCoy-Interview/page/3#post2821776

Lord Kuru.3685:

This fractal is basically confirmation that Anet does not listen — despite everything they say.

I remember a gazillion “TA UP BUG THREAD” in the dungeon section of the forum. There was always one made per week. Instead of fixing the the spider bug at the, Anet remove it outright. The reason? “We got a report that no one is running TA UP, so we deleted it”. Yeah, no one is running it if its bugged and never fixed for months!

Akari Storm.6809:

I feel like I’m being trolled. Everything up until the invasions I could deal with. This Scarlett character is destroying my fondness for this universe. A universe that I have been apart of since starting in the Pre-Searing all those years ago.

About 70% of the decisions being made with this game is actually starting to make me dislike it. I don’t know what this is anymore. This game is beginning to feel a lot less like an MMO and more like a train wreck.

Want to feel more disappointed? The person that created Scarlet is now rewriting GW 1 lore to make it “fit” to guild wars 2? How? By retconning lots of stuff. Oh and that person name is Angel McCoy. Have a read.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/lore/Angel-McCoy-Interview

I would love Scarlet to be remove from the Fractal as well. I bet its not even hard at all. Just have the event tell us to use the console after going through the nuclear/microwave/heat room.

Levetty.1279:

Hence why I said GW1 retcon. The Guild Wars 1 lore is out there all neatly tied up in the Prophecies/Factions/Nightfall package. All attempts to revisit that law in GW2 and even Eye of the North have just made it worse and dragged it down to GW2s level.

Now I have come to terms with GW2 lore not being that great as long as it just carries on being its own thing instead of keep going back to ruin already established lore.

You do realize the current person in charge of GW 1 lore right now is Angel McCoy? You know, the same writer that created Scarlet and made a whole bunch of these GW 1 retcon?

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/lore/Angel-McCoy-Interview

You should really read her “input” and tweaking of GW 1 lore. Its not a happy ride.

lordkrall.7241:

But that is EXACTLY the reason why it makes sense for her to be there.
It was an Inquest installation.
We know Scarlet worked with the Inquest.
We know that Scarlet did something (which might very well be this very situation) and was thrown out of the Inquest.

So does that NOT make sense?

The problem here is that the fractal could be use to expand lore on the asura and make it an asuran only fractal. They could expand all the inquest villain from the Asura Personal Story. What we got instead is the shoving of a lifetime. They don’t have to shove that weed in the story. They shouldn’t with all the story they could expand. At this point, it its long line of “scarlet did it” and its kittening annoying for months now. Its more annoying that its a permanent addition to the fractal, forever screwing up the fractal for those that daily it.

Kudu would have made more sense for this fractal with his history with dragon magic and what now.

The fact that Scarlet is permanent in the fractal made me quit fractal altogether for it is a reminder of all things that is bad with the Living Story.

Treeline.3865:

From an interview with Angel McCoy:

And there lies the problem as to why I would never accept your reason why Scarlet exist. Angel McCoy created Scarlet and she pamper her to being ZE BEST VILLAIN AROUND! The fact that Angel have the nerve to mess or destroy Guild Wars 1 lore just to make THIS exist infuriates me. It doesn’t help when Angel does not even know the Guild Wars 1 lore and the thread in the lore section pick point those points.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/lore/Angel-McCoy-Interview

Not to mention all the Living Story up to this point (excluding the holiday and SAB) was written by Angel in a way to make Scarlet “shine”, nevermind how bad or forced the story is.

Treeline.3865:

Scarlet Briar says in the story instance:

I told the Inquest chaos energy was a misnomer. Mind you, dragon energy is tricky, so I can see how they flubbed it.

so it is a fair assumption that she did in fact not cause the Reactor incident.

Yes, because we can totally ignore this following line.

Scarlet Briar: Reactor approaching critical, panicked evacuation, general mayhem and hysteria…Yep, I’d say my work here is done.
Scarlet Briar: Sorry about all the death, and for the portal pandemonium.

Its heavily implies she start or escalate the reactor explosion. She is not innocent in this instance and in all account, shove in the fractal for no other reason regardless.

Thobek.1730:

Did she create Scarlet? I’d like to know which one of the writers did come up with this character.

From what I read on Bobby Stein Wiki page: Ree Soesbee and Jeff Grubb take turns crafting the world setting and story arc for each Guild Wars campaign. I’d really like to hear their explanation on why Scarlet is such a good villain.

Almost ALL interviews that involves Scarlet was done by Angel McCoy. It doesn’t help that every interview ends with “and I’ll see you in my Dream!” I do not think Ree or Jeff was involve with this particular LS, all thing consider. “Thumbing up” the project doesn’t count.

Doggie.3184:

It’s called having fun.

I would put it this way. If they use our money to do crap like these instead of inputting it into the game, then Anet drop the ball, HARD. You could argue this might come from an advertising branch, but that seem a bit off considering that they advertise on people that never seen to play a MMO and I would bet the passenger are turn off by the weirdness of the driver.

I rate the new update extremely low. It kittenING kill Fractal for me when they added in Scarlet. I don’t think I would do Fractal in the future if she exist in there.

Ezekiel.1985:

Not exactly helping me on the details…lol

Seriously, Scarlet did it. There nothing else needed to add to this sentence.

Thobek.1730:

you should be thanking them, at least we didn’t have to see Scarlet turn up and kill Abaddon.

No, but the Writer, Angel McCoy, basically made Human God worthless according to the new lore. Oh, and Angel McCoy was the one that came up with Scarlet for the whole Living Story, if you are wondering.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/lore/Angel-McCoy-Interview

Crovax.7854:

After seeing they destroyed this part of LS by making Scarlett
the mastermind behind all this again I think it is better to
make a new piece of bad lore instead of destroying a formerly good
part of the GW story.
I bet anet would have involved Scarlett somehow in the fall of Abbadon
so considering that, we are better off with what we have.

Be thankful Evon supporters!

There is a problem. The person that made Scarlet is in charge of writing the lore for Guild Wars 2. This include REWRITING Guild Wars 1 material to make it less human centric. This also mean they made the Human God like Abaddon a glorified OP wizard. I am not kidding.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/lore/Angel-McCoy-Interview

There you go. Angel McCoy is in charge of making this happen.

Liraz.8062:

KOPPER.1458:

It doesn’t matter which fractal was chosen she would’ve shown up regardless.

You’re right, it’s better that they ruin this little part of the lore than to go back in time and mess with the canon from GW1, too.

Problem. One of the head writer for the Living Story, Angel McCoy, is basically doing that as well and making GW1’s lore more worthless.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/lore/Angel-McCoy-Interview/

So yeah, the person that created Scarlet is basically rewriting GW 1 lore.

There two cooling area. I did not do it myself, but the person that did have a near infinite dodge to do so.

There are two cooling rods. One is in the south room where you get barraged by spark cannons. The other one is in the north, where you have to fight a decent fight against a boss.

I feel embarrased for the taxi drivers. The fact she ask these random strangers, that whom would most likely never touch a mmo, questions like those made it unbearable to watch.

Thalador.4218:

I feel like a prophet whose words were not heeded. I could say “I told ya’ll, lulz,” but that would be a kitten thing to do.

Honestly, I feel so bad that I told everyone about what an abomination Scarlet was 3 months ago, when this kittenhurricane began, and now it all turned out to be true.

Trust me, you are not the only one that pick this up. Hell, I made this thread long ago and I put two and two together a few week eariler.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/livingworld/lwd/Keep-Scarlet-off-the-Thaumanova-Reactor-Frac

Its a shame, a freaken shame, that Anet and the LS writing department ruin another good part of the game for me.

lordkrall.7241:

I love how people are all about how much they liked it and how interested they were in it, but suddenly all that is blown away because a certain NPC turns up.
Seriously?

She basically destroy most of the lores of GW 2 at this point.

People that voted for Kiel hoping to get a Fractal about the Asura and the Inquest. Instead, they got Scarlet. This is after Scarlet mary sue herself in creating lore breaking alliance and act like cartoon villain.

The combat, the layout, and the idea of the reactor fractal was great. That being said, Scarlet exist, destroy more potential lore for the Asura and the Inquest, and its basically a big finger to loreist. Because of this, I grade this fractal an F- or -00011/10.

Oh and Kiel was being mean to Dessa. She deserve death for this.

Walhalla.5473:

Kiel tried to get her out of the mists, she walked through the gate and what happened? She disappears and appears right next to Kiel without remembering a thing about the fractal. WTF. What is wrong with her? Does she really exist or is she just a part of another fractal?

It implies that Dessa is part of the Fractal. Its her prison.

Blindrat.8016:

I will say one thing though, if she even remotely touches Wintersday I can guarantee that will be a breaking point for people that haven’t already flipped their tables over this.

They would make Scarlet the Grinch that screw up the giant golem blimp and was behind the toy chaotic event.

At this point, I just give up.

OP, I thought your idea was silly at first. Then I read it and man, you know your Guild Wars lore front and back. This is definetly something I would like to see in the future but I doubt Anet would ever try doing something in the caliber you suggested.

One suggestion, you would really put the other three years you suggested in your OP. Those are extremely wonderful and it shouldn’t be buried in the forum.

https://dviw3bl0enbyw.cloudfront.net/uploads/forum_attachment/file/116923/ThreeYears.jpg

As much as I am excited for this next update, I have a bad feeling that Scarlet might come up again, namely in the Reactor Fractal. For the love of god, please keep that bimbo out of this update. She already in the previous Living Story update and she ruins them with her involvement.

Quarktastic.1027:

I don’t think even the writers know who E is.

I would support this quote. I would bet the LS writer already forgotten this E and were to busy trying to write Scarlet into everything without logic.

redhand.7168:

I just want some reason for her existence other than just a nuisance.

Based on the Living Story, that is exactly her reason to exist and from the looking of it, everytime she is present in the game, she destroy something that makes GW 2 good, whether its lore or just story.

Or they could just use inquest and make it make it a way to spotlight them and the asura rather than shoving Scarlet into the Fractal just because. She already has months to present herself and she fail at that.

Believe me, you are not the only one with that idea and I came up with a similar idea long ago. In fact, I made a thread about it.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/livingworld/lwd/Keep-Scarlet-off-the-Thaumanova-Reactor-Frac

In many respect, I do not want to see this happen and I rather the fractal would be a way to present the inquest and the asura and not bull crapping it by inserting that weed and screwing up Fractal for me.

Instead of encouraging on screwing up more Guild Wars lores just to keep Scarlet, why not just kill her off or retcon her out? From here, give a different writer a chance to write a different villain, or just go back to freaken dragons, which you know, was advertise for the game for a year.

Jornophelanthas.1475:

To me, this entire argument can be broken down to:

“I want these two NPCs to peform the a very specific voice-actor-supported action for me whenever they are near my character, or I will hate them forever.”

Frankly, I think it is very irrational to claim that an NPC dialogue box is not part of the in-game representation of the NPC. Especially since the only argument for disqualifying this piece of content is: “But it’s not the specific voice-actor-supported action I want.”

Considering the fact that the way they set up Braham and Rox through out the Living Story, it would make it seem that they both would not know that you exist in the very instance you both share. Its that very perspective that make it seem that Braham and Rox does all the work in those Living Story event, when in fact that wasn’t the case at all. There is literally zero interaction with the PC that does not involved with a simple wave to you, a beckon ,or saying a simple hi to the PC, and you might as well be seen as a random nameless fobber despite the fact you did about 95 % of the work.

Marjory and Kasmeer has a lot less screen time than those two bozo and they interact with the player with a wave and a beckon Nightmare Incarnate or a quote in the Nightmare Unveiled at the end of it when you save their butt from certain death. Its stuff like this that makes you connect to the npc and to the story. It was the same deal with Personal Story if you haven’t play with those.

To me, it goes down to why the kitten should I care about the NPC and the Story if they don’t give their time greet or acknowledge the player’s present outside of the dialogue box? And believe me, the dialogue box are uninspiring and worthless.

Xiahou Mao.9701:

Braham and Rox did acknowledge players who’d met them during Flame and Frost in the Queen’s Jubilee, but only in the opening instance. They gave the lines that Sialor listed there.

You going up to the NPC and opening up their dialogue box is not an NPC Interaction. They still didn’t wave at you or say hi with their VA. I would understand this would be their initial interaction IF I didn’t do the Molten Alliance, but guess what? I did and resurrect their sorry butt and they still did not acknowledge the player.

VitalSuit.1980:

The Rox and Braham conversation you have screenshots of was a bug that Anet refused to fix. If you had did the Molten Alliance crap they were supposed to acknowledge your character but Anet never fixed the dialogue so it seemed like they didn’t even know who you are.

Sialor.7396:

I am confused, you complain the NPCs didn’t recognize you and proceed to provide a screenshot as evidence. And then you say dialogue with an NPC does not count anyway?

I am aware of it as a bug and I was using that image as a stab as to how these two npc ignore the player(s) action after the Molten Alliance. The way they made the ending of the Molten Facility, it made it seem that Rox and Braham were the one that did the dungeon, themselves, not acknowledging that the Players did 95% of the work. At least have these two morons say hi or wave at us but no, these two npc seem to be in their own universe that everything was done for them and they think they done it.

Shiren.9532:

I honestly don’t even know why any of these characters are present at all.

Most of the time, they should have not been in the Living Story at all. Those two hardly did anything that the Player did a thousand times better. Hell, Rox’s existence during the Teq Dragon Week shown us that the LS Writers didn’t even bother looking up the ingame calendar.

Chaotic Storm.2815:

as for acknowledge the player, you do realize they are bits of code with set dialog, Anet has made dialog that reminds you about past events they were in and how they remembering you being there but if your expecting detailed greetings like a big hug and a pat on the shoulder from them thats gonna take a while.

Read this quote:

Marjory and Kasmeer waving at the player in the beginning of the Nightmare Incarnate and beckoning the player after the player inject the antitoxic is a nice example of these NPC interaction.

I am not asking much other than having two anime character recognizes the PC and wave/says hi to the players rather than standing around and assuming they are the heroes. Hell, these NPC interaction was all over the place in the Personal Story, so it cannot be a “bits of code with set dialog,”. Its just pure laziness, plain and simple. Its this laziness that make me disgusted by these two npc.

Sialor.7396:

The images you link were taken after you defeated the malfunctioning Watchknight, right?

Yes. Read the comment above you.

Sialor.7396:

If you had spoken with them before talking to Jennah, you’d see this:

Rox – Look who’s here! Now it’s a party.
Braham – Here we are again, huh?
(and I wasn’t in the Molten Facility to begin with)

Again, read the comment above your post.

Renalt.4368:

A Massive Headache.1879:

Kormir didn’t steal anything from you, she was the one who was able to absorb abaddons power, not you.

She was also the one able to get there, killing every minion by herself and totally not just sitting back?

You know, I would not use the “Kormir standing around during combat” as an excuse to make her bad. I probably bet you don’t even know why Kormir’s combat AI was standing around doing nothing in the first place. I’ll tell you a story.

Once upon a time, there was an NPC name Rurik. He like to run into mobs and die like the wammo he was. Rurik dying mean the mission he was involved automatically fails because he was consider to be an important npc to escort.

Fast forward to Faction. This time, Anet thinks by adding Togo and Mhenlo in the party menu AND make them range fighter would fix what made Rurik annoying. Anet was dead wrong. My god, I seen Togo and Mhenlo run into mobs and bosses that does DOUBLE DAMAGE to player ie instant death. Anyone that plays Faction would very well know the pain it was to escort Togo and Mhenlo in the Tahnnakai Temple, a mission that house an Elementlist Boss that loves to run up and Starburst these two morons to death, causing an instant failure of the mission.

After all the complaint about how escorting important npc was freaken annoying and how its an extreme chore just to keep those npc alive, Anet made it that any important npc after Faction a noncombatant. And that is how Kormir got her Noncombatant Ai. What many people are complaining about Kormir was actually Anet feedback on the previous Ai and interaction with the important npcs.

Yes. I made sure I did it with the right character. I came in the Pavilion after the poor excuse of a dungeon and that was how I was greeted.

Oh and I would make it clear that the PC talking to the NPC to get a text box is not an NPC interaction. Having a mail sent by those NPC does not count either. A NPC interaction would be the NPC waving, bowing, saluting, anything that is emoted, to the player. Talking to the player like saying “Hey there!” or just saying “Hi” would be another nice way of having these NPC interact with the player. Its these interaction that make the character felt more alive and willing to interact with the PC. It make the PC felt they are part of the story and connect with the NPC. Marjory and Kasmeer waving at the player in the beginning of the Nightmare Incarnate and beckoning the player after the player inject the antitoxic is a nice example of these NPC interaction.

Braham and Rox did none of that crap. Ever.

Stormcrow.7513:

Time gated content and zerg style gameplay was the exact opposite of what GW1 was. Ursan anyone?

That one skill practically destroy Guild Wars 1 for me, right until it was nerfed to oblivion and I came back taunting all the players that depended on that skill.

But yeah, everything you said about Guild Wars 1 plus more. Guild Wars 1 does Living Story a hell a lot better than this game. I felt my character was part of the Shining Blade movement and help bring the Queen back in LA, or how my character have to clean up Cantha and watch horribly as he might have started the road to xenophobia among Canthan. Whats even better is that my other characters can do these “Living Story”, or Guild Wars Beyond by its rightful name, any time he or she wants and not suffer from the limited time bull crap the Living Story has.

Right at the start of the Molten Alliance, I met two uninspiring NPC, Braham and Rox. Of course, I try to give them a chance but it did not goes as plan. Right at the end of the Molten Faucity, both characters actively ignore your character’s involvement and with a quote like this:

Rox: Sure. And you, me – right? We made a good team, all of us.

It makes me feel quite annoyed that they think they actually did something during the dungeon (and in my gameplay, died repeatedly) and I know I would not like them since.

Fast forward to the Queen’s Gauntlet. Guess what happen? They ignore the player’s again. No wave, no hello, no greeting. Even Trahearne, arguably one of the worst NPC tying with Scarlet, wave and acknowledge the player’s past deed and greeted the player with a VA. I could not connect with these two characters if they ignore the player like that, or how the players basically did most of the stuff for them during the Queen’s Gauntlet. They did not join in a zerg train and fight the invasion to gather the right competent to open up a teleporter into the Scarlet Funhouse. No, Braham and Rox just stands there and wait for the players to do that for them. After all that and beating Scarlet to a beet? Nothing from these two npcs.

And now we are force to work with Braham and Rox, again, in the Tower. Not surprising, THESE TWO NPCS STILL DOESN’T ACKNOWLEDGE THE PLAYER! For god sake, Marjory and Kasmeer, whom hardly did anything (Including the Dragon Bash investigation) other than removing the veil of the Toxic Tower, actually wave and bow down to the players in the final dungeon instance. If these two bimbo with a personality of wallpaper actually acknowledge the player’s deed, WHY CAN’T A TEENAGE NORN AND A KAWAII CAT CAN’T?

I’ll just end this with a picture. Its basically my character greeting Braham and Rox after spending time with them from start of the Molten Alliance and the Scarlet Fun House. I have no comment other than wanting those NPC to acknowledge the player’s deed or just die.