Guild Wars 2

In that you’d clear out the mobs faster. However since event nerfs there aren’t really any zergs running around. Maybe on Cursed Shores but not in Straits. So that isn’t really an option.

I’ve played so many MMOs and a lot of them had really crappy PvE. Warhammer comes to mind. Age of Conan wasn’t really fun either. Yet in all of my experience I’ve never been as frustrated as I get when I enter Orr and try to move around. The next two areas are OK but the Straits of Devastation just SUCKS. Constantly being slowed, pulled back, knocked back, sunk.

I thought it was some sort of transit system at first. Complimentary “Hey, why walk when you can fly” service. This is my 5th character I will be getting to 80. I’ve just had enough. So, very, very, very tired of it. I’ve never seen a more miserable set of mobs. It entirely betrays the feel of the zone.

Orr looks like this crazy place, ground zero on zombie hell, and turns out that all of the minions are one trick ponies whose only talent is to somehow throw an axe and summon it back, along with your butt every 10 seconds. The fighting doesn’t feel epic, the monsters aren’t special. I don’t feel like I’m invading a continent held by an evil dragon. I feel like I’m invading the Capital of Ankle-Biter Kingdom.

I want to love the zone but I can’t. The artwork, the beauty and how well captured the devastation actually is immediately becomes lost on the 5th pull back.

Oh, speaking of absurdities though. I found in Harathi Hinterlands a mob that has a knock back which keeps you down longer than it cools down. So I got hit. And then hit. And hit even five more times until I went from full health to nearly downed. And that was far more pleasant than any one fight I’ve had in Orr.

Drop a nuke on it. Whatever crawls out of the radiated sludge should be able to be fierce without having to rely on constantly taking control of my character away from me. That isn’t hard, that is just down right annoying. Nuke Orr.

Now everyone is going to get infractions for questioning a Moderator, going off topic, and questioning a suspension.!

drwookie.6391:

Moderator.1462:

Hi everyone,

There has been some chat of exploits and acussations as usual going on here. Please refrain from that behaviour as it is punishable. If you suspect someone from cheating or hacking, use the in game report tool but refrain from bringing the discussion here.

Thanks

Out of curiosity…why are only SOME posts regarding exploits and such being deleted from the thread? How do you choose? There are some very inflammatory posts still here, and yet you delete a post that is merely agreeing with a previous post about noticing a bug involving teleporting into a tower on accident.

Just trying to understand your decision-making process when deciding to delete posts…if you have one.

If you find a method to the madness, please do share with the rest of the class.

As for SBI’s score, what is going on? Everyone seems to have more or less just given up and moved on to other stuff. Outmanned buff is becoming increasingly common. :/

Ahh! Don’t leave SBI, I like running 5 mans with ya!

Onixxx.9725:

LOL guys why so butthurt? CrimeThink all the way u just jelly u cant own the puzzle like we do. how did u like not havng access to the chest for 7 hours i sure enjoyed it

I make a light hearted thread and the mods delete it. I post a legitimate response and it gets infracted. But this sewerage crap gets to remain? REALLY?

Slayer Lord.5023:

Not going to lie SBI, it was all about getting your keep from the JQ end. We had two of the top JQ commanders on EB working together to keep you pinned and eventually take your keep. The update saved your keep, then SOS took it from us. Did e stop because SOS took your keep? No. We wanted it. Didn’t matter who was in it.

I must admit, I was a bit paranoid that at any minute SOS would rampage us. When they didn’t, I knew they just used us. No alliances with SOS, well go after them all the same too. It’s just whole JQ/SBI thing sometimes. LOL

Really sucks when you’ve got the outmanned buff and see a majority of the players dying again and again outside the keep when they could be doing something useful.

I recently lost over 5g of materials because someone took my ectos and my imbued berserker inscription. They offered to help me build an item and were helpful before the offer so I took it. It was a gamble and I lost.

This could easily be prevented with a player to player crafting window. The players engage each other, place materials into the slot and if it matches a recipe or discovery a player can unlock it will do so. Enable the players to have outside assistance with no fear of theft.

To use World of Warcraft as an example, their window for trading was awesome and enchantments were done without the objects leaving the owners. It would be a safe and handy tool to have around!

I’m really hoping a Moderator will sticky this and we can compile everything down into a single thread solely for helping other people out. Space was right, the forums are mucked with negativity and could use a nice boost.

Selebrity.7469:

Anyone know of low level/easy to get cool heavy armor?

Unfortunately you cannot preview from the TP. That makes it a complete gamble, you have to hope the icon accurately depicts the product. Luckily most of these items are rather cheap so you.

Here, http://dulfy.net/2012/07/21/gw2-armor-previews/, that has a TON of armor I think and the models on every race.

ajm.2931:

Tier 1 Human Cultural:

http://imgur.com/P0oDg

That is a pretty set.

Those pictures are a very nice touch. I hope this thread gets stickied, those are going to be quite handy for people learn better by seeing than reading!

That is a ridiciously detailed map, Hadan! Awesome that you posted it, thank you! I hadn’t touched on actual siege placement. But yeah.

Catapults are usually built a little behind our doors so that when enemies set up shop to take keeps or towers they’re faced with AoE splash damage that wrecks rams and players especially. This -may- get fixed at some point but as of right now AoEs go through doors.

Inner defense siege is common sense as Hadan said and needs no real explanation.

Morrigan.2809:

thanks, unfortunately I have no idea where I got the staff- I think it might have been a personal story reward- often transmuted
atm I am rocking my Whispers set – I am a little in love with it.

I am thrilled the game has transmution. I am in love with my armor set and I am overjoyed I can keep the cosmetics while upgrading the stats!

KinkyWarrior.1879:

You have started a craze SpaceLord!

Raehvyn, would you mind if I added a link to this thread in mine own guides ‘useful Links Section’? I believe this style of guide may suit people who don’t appreciate the style of mine

Not at all. Go ahead and add anything if you think of stuff I haven’t touched on! I tried to add a little humor or spice to the guide so it wasn’t like reading a technical manual. Hopefully that is alright with the Moderators.

You don’t need to run in the zerg to be a huge part of WvW. Matter of fact, we rely on people NOT being part of the zerg. Here are a few things you can do:

Carefully venture into enemy lands. If you’re alone and not level 80 I don’t recommend you do anything and return back to the main force. If you’re able to kill mobs though flip mobs in areas marked with the two axe icon colored by whoever owns them. These will stop NPC assistance, make them go somewhere else for siege blueprints, and gives karma and money.

Genocide. You should feel inclined to wipe every single Dolyak out of existence. With siege warfare a lot of keeps and towers will simply FALL if dolyaks are slain. Keep in mind, they’re often protected or upgraded to have guard escorts, but either way never hurts to kill the Dolyaks.

Sentry points: You can take them but they’re almost worthless. They give away your position or at least let the enemy know that you’re in the area. I don’t recommend it but if you need exp might as well.

If you’ve a small band of people lets say a party of 5: Supply camps. Expect to lose the camp obviously, but flip it so upgrades are lost, people have to be drawn away and retake it, and you force em to lose the supply cache they built up. They often have dolyaks about to head out as well. These are really good for lower level people in groups with higher level people able to kill dolyaks.

You also can attack keep/tower doors. Light the keep up so it looks contested and flee, this makes people send scouts or bands of people to check an area out. Expect heat when you do it so get lost as quickly as possible. Lighting up waypoints deep in enemy lands also makes it a lot harder for the dead to reinforce sieges in your land.

Expect to die, be happy that you lived. Call out a noteworthy amount of players, if you find their zerg shout it into Mapchat or Teamchat so commanders can take note and react accordingly. If you can make out their intent, all the better.

Remember. You might not be part of the zerg or gloriously taking keeps but you’re vital. It isn’t hard to find 5-man groups either, some people specifically only run in small bands.

Eternal Battlegrounds is so clustered that without a thief in the party who can stealth everyone it is really challenging but in Borderlands “Havoc” squads really save the day.

Morrigan.2809:

This is one of my favourites- the legs at least it is a karma item in the lvl40/50 or so maps I think. I wore this combo until I was almost 80
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/YXrGx.jpg[/IMG]

another is the devout set- sadly I can’t find the recipe for the shoulders and hood anywhere in the game

[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/V41YJ.jpg[/IMG]

Nice staff. I don’t care for the scholarly look of the second picture myself, but I do like the first one.

Arshay Duskbrow.1306:

Neishi.5309:

One of my favorite cloth armor skins by far is the Winged set. For females, at least. It doesn’t look so good on my Asuran elementalist. :c
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Winged_armor

Uh, I’d hardly call that set “unsung”…90% of female human and norn casters in the game are running around in that, and/or those pants in combination with the barely-there Feathered brassiere…

Anyway, back when I still played, this coat was a personal favorite, despite being “regular” Orr karma gear (not 42k).

http://imageshack.us/a/img856/9772/gw953.jpg

Whoa… that is rather stylish! I like the color scheme you used with it too.

So you’ve read up on your skills, you’ve got your favorite sword out, you’ve got those amazing utilities slotted and look at that. BananaBob commander is leading you to a tower and with you are twenty-nine other people. So you get to the tower and you attack the door, right? Wrong. First part of tower taking is realizing you suck. Yep. You, good sir, suck. At least in comparison to the door which is like a honey badger on steroids, your shiny awesome sword of pwn is worthless to it.

You are going to see build sites where people lay ram blueprints right in front of the door. You should run up and build those because those rams are the Chuck Norris of honey badgers and he does not give a rats batooy about doors. If you are out of supply you need to get more. Realistically, you should always be hitting up supply camps. No one tries to take keeps these days without flipping supply camps.

If the supply camp is empty and you’re in need of supplies really bad waypoint back to your keep. Chances are if you’re WPing back into the keep its got everything it needs and has a stockpile of supply. If not, DO NOT take supply from it or anywhere else but the supply camp. Seriously, do not take supplies from towers or keeps especially if they’re upgrading but it is poor taste to do it regardless.

So you’re supplied up and ready to go. In most cases the the door will break and you’ll charge in and swarm the place. For credit on flipping objectives stand in the circle where the lord was slain (usually they’re killed right by where they originally stood). The tower flips and you’re off to another objective right? No. Everyone should be Mesmer sweeping. I mentioned the portals earlier, they can and will portal everyone back into the keep and you’ll just be out of luck. Also CHECK FOR EMOTES. * invader has gone to sleep, or something akin to that usually means a mesmer is playing dead nearby. This isn’t done in towers but in keeps where there are a lot of land to hide on they do this to look dead.

Once the tower is taken assist with supplying blueprints for siege weapons. If you’re especially patient, go to a supply camp and escort the Dolyak to the tower/keep to ensure a steady amount of supply is granted to the tower/keep for quick upgrades. It is essential but a little boring at times.

Upgrading. There is an “order” to upgrading. Build the door first. NOT the oil. I’ll explain in a little why not. Then upgrade the walls, add cannons, fortify and then build a waypoint if you have the cash and what is being upgraded is your keep. Everything else can be added later. 2 workers upgrade is handy as well as it speeds up the process of upgrading.

The order of destruction when assaulting any objective is:

Guards (quick kills), cannons/siege on the wall (they will DESTROY you and the siege you build), and then pots of oil. Again the oil wrecks rams and players. Harassment is encouraged, AoE all over the wall to ensure that your enemy is either dying or having to keep on their toes. As stated before, run supply to your builds once all of this has been wiped out.

If assaulting an actual keep and there has been a significant time where the enemy has dug in DO NOT, I repeat DO NOT run forward when the inner breaks. You will likely be devoured by the soul hungry anti-personnel siege set up in the lord’s room. You break the door, then you run as fast as possible onto the walls, and you wipe out siege and players. If people drop blueprints, help build.

I stress this. Stormbluff Isle has weathered so many assaults on keeps by siegeing up the Lords room and watching mindless zergs charge into it. Play smart, win swift.

Know your role in WvW. Know that you can make a difference, your name can be recognized by commanders as someone who is dependable and able to get stuff done. If you have questions, ask them. Who cares if people reply snarkily if you get a good answer in the end? Everyone started out at some point. WvW is frustrating. You’re going to die. You’re going to lose keeps that you fought with hellish tenacity to hold. But WvW should be -fun- first and foremost.

Having fun in WvW is why you’re playing WvW. So my advice to you is remember that when tensions are getting bad and team chat is cluttered with frustration. Enjoy yourself, educate yourself, and kick some Asura booty!

The concept of this thread has been sparked by SpaceLord.4590. This thread serves to be our first attempt at giving Newbies information on how to be a productive and successful individual in World vs World.

Hello and welcome to WvW. The first thing I would suggest is leaving WvW if you’re going to be AFK for more than a few minutes. Spots can be valuable and anyone who is away for a prolonged period of time takes up a valuable slot because of the population cap.

Know your class. Open up your traits book and really examine them. See what builds might be better geared for WvW if you’re getting smashed easily. Examine your skill point utilities. There are a lot of situational skills that you won’t need all the time but knowing what you have on hand will allow you to switch out utilities in times of need and really bringing something to the table. Look at your weapon skills, that is one of the most important parts of WvW. Knowing what weapons give you what abilities. Again, situations will call for individuals to step forward and take charge.

Step up and be an individual. The zerg will always be there. Armed with the knowledge of your class you can step out of the zerg and really -mess- things up for the enemy. Here are some examples:

Thieves should contest enemy waypoints when in enemy lands. Hit the door a few times, pop Shadow Refuge, and get the heck out of there. Bam. Longer time before reinforcements arrive.

Mesmers have a really important role. Portal Bombing. Commanders will ask everyone to stack up on. They will need a mesmer who knows what they’re doing to drop a portal entrance and then the exit close or in the objective whether and enemy or not. Currently the portal mechanic is lame and seriously messes up the AoE of an enemy force. However once fixed Portals will still be important. If your side has Golems they are precious. You will be able to distinguish yourself from the herd by dropping portals which GREATLY increase golem survivability, travel time, and over all contributes to your team.

Elementalists should carry a focus I believe. You use swirling winds to protect siege from enemy artillery. A band of dedicated elementalists can seriously cripple enemy offensives on keeps by timing their swirling winds to prevent trebbing.

See? There are plenty of things you can be doing to really help out your team and speaking of helping the team lets talk communication. “SoS inc Stonemist”. This isn’t useful. You’re letting us know there are SoS inc to Stonemist but you need to specify -how many- or at the very least a rough estimate. Don’t go and get yourself killed trying to find out, but try to get a good grasp. Be clear on team chat. You’ll enable commanders to move appropriate forces to locations where they are needed instead of fending off a five man party with a 30 man army.

Read, read, read, and read team and map chat some more. You need to have a good understanding of what is going on. You can mindlessly follow the zerg but they often will just hivemind into some foolish objective that can’t be won. A commander screaming in map for you to move back is asking you to do so for a -reason-. Read the channels, follow the commanders.

Speaking of reading and following. It is amazing that technology has allowed us to play video games with people all around the world. But they’re just that. For instance Stormbluff Isle has an amazing amount of Koreans. A lot of them do not speak English and often we do not speak Korean. If you have an international force present with you and you speak their language, you can coordinate with foreign commanders and help bridge the gap left by language. However, don’t go wild if they’re not listening to your English demands. You’re frustrated trying to tell them to maybe run to Garrison or something, but they’re likely just as frustrated trying to figure out what you’re saying. Often from what I’ve seen on SBI the Koreans have commanders who’re bilingual and are able to coordinate though. I find this to be a really important part to WvW and understanding that your community is so vast that you’re not going to be able to get everyone to understand you.

Do you know what a zerg is? No, not the giant mass of players. The Starcraft race that swarms over everything. They’re guided by overlords. Chances are you’re neither a literal zerg nor are you telepathic. So when you’re part of a zerg (group of players) rush, you still need to maintain a situational awareness. Don’t follow the horde into arrow carts and ballistas and they will run in there to be sure. Often commanders act as overlords and yet still fail to command because people aren’t paying attention and getting themselves slaughtered. Don’t be a goober, no one likes goobers, my friend! Pay attention to the commander icon, what they ask, and move along accordingly.

Edited: Zergs are a race from Starcraft, not SC2 necessarily, sorry Air! ;P

Leo Paul.1659:

Im just glad that SoS map chat is usually fun whenever the commanders are around. having commanders that know how to work humor into their strategies are able to make people follow their leads better. if you can go online when SoS is most active, the chats are so funny that it motivates you to stay in wvw even if you’re losing

Stormbluff Isle chat has ups and downs. Cover Girl is really strict about team chat being used to relay important information and without clutter. That makes for clear communication and while I do talk too much in team chat I appreciate the way she asks us so I never feel bad about shutting up and letting her have her way.

There were some commanders that seemed to just pop out of nowhere and they were brutal in chat. Insulting and just using so much profanity. Otherwise if the zerg is being exceptionally silly there are tidbits of profanity used because its frustrating.

Other than that our chat can be really hilarious at times. A lot of people get super serious about WvW. Sometimes you just gotta laugh it off and use some humor to make people feel inclined to follow you instead of being insulted and as a result stubborn.

Neishi.5309:

One of my favorite cloth armor skins by far is the Winged set. For females, at least. It doesn’t look so good on my Asuran elementalist. :c
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Winged_armor

That armor seemed too fairy for races other than Sylvari for my personal tastes. However, I saw a human with a really sick black and dark purple. They looked pretty cool.

I imagine on your Asura you’d look like a twisted version of Tinkerbell, lol.

Xyanide.8650:

kidbs.8920:

Judas.5432:

Alien.1845:

Da da da Da dah, here comes the ‘team up 2v1’ troll

Hopefully people will let that misconception go….especially in Tier 1. If 2nd and 3rd place are not teaming up on the server in the lead, they are doing it wrong.

kidbs.8920:

It’s been such an obvious double-team that it’s almost comical. Both SoS and JQ spending most of the night just camping outside of SBI’s spawn in EB. No trebs from SM are even active.

Le sigh :-( Well, Rome wasn’t build in a day, I suppose. Hey kidbs, nobody cares. Everybody gets double-teamed at one point or another in WvWvW. That’s working as intended.

Anyway, I’ll see you again tonight, SoS & JQ. Loving this week’s match between us! Don’t let up. Don’t let us win. Make us bleed for every inch of ground, every Supply Depot, every Doylak.

Glhf!

Of course 2v1s will always occur. But there is a difference between 2v1ing strategically to try and take points rather than just 2v1ing to prevent a side from even leaving their spawn. I mean once SBI had absolutely nothing left on the map it would make sense for JQ or SoS to at least grab a supply camp or something from the other side to further their domination.

Anyway, that’s all I’ll say on the matter. It is what it is. We had a colossal failure on our part last night that led to us being camped. We have people that refuse to listen to commanders yet will sit in chat blaming them that everything has been lost.

It’s obvious ppl want their badges for the upcoming ascended weapon/armor exchange. SoS and JQ sees a chance to farm by spawn camping, they could get more profit if teamed up farming homeless SBI at that time. And those SBI mindless ppl obsessed with badges certainly wouldn’t listen to commanders, they die they respawn, hopefully they will get a few badges if SoS or JQ overextended. It is all about badges. Following the commander get badges? No? Why should we follow’em? That is what happened last night in EB.

Ew. I seriously hope you’re mistaken and that this is not the attitude that is spreading across my beloved server. If you’re right then what a shame. We were the best, we know we’re better than SoS and JQ. We proved that by snatching a lead and holding our own.

And now we’re watching SBI slide down with no commanders because no willing armies. NoPe might be awesome but we’re not -that- awesome that we could win single handedly. Seeing the outman buff on SBIers is disheartening.

It used to be a sign that the Koreans were coming soon and the Americans went to sleep.

ComeAndSee.1356:

Raehvyn.4530:

Scoresies.

Wake up Americans. Time to win, sleepy heads!

But I don’t wanna!! I need my monies.

No you don’t. Guild Wars has no subscription fee!

kidbs.8920:

pot.6805:

kidbs.8920:

It’s been such an obvious double-team that it’s almost comical. Both SoS and JQ spending most of the night just camping outside of SBI’s spawn in EB. No trebs from SM are even active.

LOL you are whining about double teams!

I’m usually one of the first to laugh at the 2v1 whining, but last night was an indisputable 2v1. Both JQ and SoS were sitting at our spawn camping us and turning a complete blind eye towards each other. They had siege weapons lined up at our spawn with no worries that the other side would attack them. No trebs from SM were fired upon JQ during this time, no attempt to take anything from either team was occurring. They were both just sitting outside our spawn having a heyday and being content farming any people that were dumb enough to venture down the path from our spawn.

If you were there then there is no way you would question this.

It was blatant 2v1ing but there isn’t a conspiracy I think. I heard JQ and SoS made a pact but I heard the same thing about my server and I don’t put stock into it. SoS let JQ push us to the spawn cuz… why not? SBI was ineffective and useless. SoS let JQ smash us so they could carry on unhindered.

SoS had often appeared to coordinate with Jade Quarry. Then suddenly out of left field smash through DG without even taking Umber, taking Umber, then smashing into Bravost before anyone even knew what happened. If there is an actual 2v1 agreement in effect I have no doubt SoS’s tenacity will render the promise broken quite shortly.

So I leveled 10 times off of Jewelcrafting on my Mesmer, bumping him up to level 25. I looked for rares that were going cheap on AH for armor upgrades and there were none. So I searched for Masterwork upgrades… and I found -this- set!

Shadow of Hoelbrak gear. It looks amazing, I got called a kitten for wearing it, and I was SO surprised that something so cool was low level! So, I’m creating the unsung skins thread. We’ve seen Grenth’s, we’ve seen CoF, and we’ve all fawned over that adorable Asura in that tech gear. But I’ve never seen this armor before and it is absolutely amazing.

So go ahead! Post pictures or at least the names of armor skins below level 80 that you’ve found sort of tucked away.

Scoresies.

Wake up Americans. Time to win, sleepy heads!

Stormbluff Isle was camped outside the spawn because people were being silly. They ignored commanders and refused. Commanders stopped commanding and left. This resulted in SoS storming all over while JQ just farmed the heck out of our spawn.

It was 2v1 but like others said that is how it goes, the name of the game, and it was only like that because we played stupidly and didn’t just -go around-.

<3 Nyx, Zz Aprohite, and Ulysses, and any other unsung commanders who tried and failed to rally the zerg. Good effort!

Keiran.1896:

A Quaggan Mini
A second Quaggan Mini
A free hat, obviouzly
Some quaggan plushy
A GW2 expansion
A Golem grinding for me
Ascended Gears removed
and… uhm… a third Quaggan Mini?

Would you like a side of Quaggan with your quaggan!?

Look at the races. Close your eyes and picture the class you want. Is it a giant norn female warrior who cleaves monsters with a greatsword? Or maybe an Asura Thief who slices people and then vanishes with a dagger dagger build.

Only you are going to know what you want to play. Look at the race, envision what you think the ideal figure for that race is, and then roll!

Thanks for checking!

When full allow transfers to go into a queue and roll onto that server when a slot frees up.

My friend can’t log on to create his first char so he can’t create which means we’re going to have a cycle of frustration.

Yeah unfortunately the loser got his sleeping patterns squared away hehehe. He is going to be awake during the full times unfortunately I suspect but we’ll persist.

Bought Guild Wars for a mate of mine. He has been trying all day to log onto Stormbluff Isle but the server has been full. Can anyone give an approx. EST time frame for him to try log on and create on SBI?

A strange request but with transfers and all I imagine someone had luck at some time! Thanks.

What happened to all of SBI’s pvpers? They vanish or something? How’re we getting stomped so hard?

Harbinger.8637:

It’s a good tactic. You can even grab the grub and have it attack Stonemist.

Oh goodness. SM is a zerg nightmare, it pulls anyone who passes it into their gates and forces them to auto attack the door.

Bringing the GRUB to SM is just zerg baiting overkill hah!

I personally blame the Quaggans. They lightning’ed someones keep and those people thought someone else did it and it just went down hill from there.

Besides that I don’t think there is much of an established canon lore about it.

AKA Mr.Angrypants. So I ended up pulling him into Speldan’s. We had just taken it, the supervisor was immune to damage so I figured it’d be a relatively easy kill right? No. Wrong. He proceeded to kick the ever loving crap out of everything in the camp until it was fighting the supervisor alone. A few minutes into that my zerg rolls in and I hear on TS “Oh god kitten it someone pulled the Spirit into Speldans”. What proceeded was 5 or so minutes of players putting on the pain and the champion slaughtering anyone who he got too close to. Now that I learned how beefy he was I don’t intend on doing that ever again but it made me think.

Is it trolling or just good tactics to drag the spirit to Speldans if an enemy holds that? And why can he be brought there in the first place? I dont think the Grub could be used offensively and I don’t think Green spawn even has an ubermob.

Pull aggro. Have it attack. Have it kill everything. Run off. Come back and cap. >.> Maybe he should be farther back.

I feel bad for servers that were doing well then got abandoned so they have to ride back down to a tier that represents their current skill level or participation level.

Constantly fighting servers you otherwise would have worked up to fight. Uncool. :/

Varthanos.4897:

I came to the forums to see if there was anything regarding the freezing I am getting inconsistently when moving to waypoints in Eternal Battlegrounds. Game was working just fine before the last couple of patches with the expansion.

Anyways, I have seen the same issues with WvW. Mesmer portaling is just ridiculous. Thief’s can hold off a 30 man zerg preventing a camp from capping. The way the stealth mechanic is implemented is just plain stupid in my opinion. PvP in any game is always hard to balance. Just wish some things that seem so obvious would be fixed but whatever. I knew WvW was a joke when I encountered my first Stonemist siege where all 3 sides were in the castle. Talk about server side skill lag. Wasn’t even surprised with the rendering issue and exploiting that with the totally bogus portaling. World style PvP is still a distant dream it seems.

Read up on the dev posts on the forums. They’re fixing the thieves holding caps. From what devs are saying they’re focusing on WvW in upcoming patches and what not. Culling will still be an issue but they are working on that but I can’t imagine thats a slap 1 line of code into whatever and its fixed.

I’ve been having hellish lag lately. I mean literally lag not FPS lag, it has been nuts.

Colored icons would be awesome if the colors coordinated with plans. Red for offensive, Blue for defensive. Allow the colors to be set by the commander. Sounds like a neat idea.

Stormbluff Isle is reporting a lot of lag, we’re having trouble with skills firing off and one of us reported that trebbing is even difficult. Is anyone else having nasty lag? I noticed it a day or two ago but today it seems really bad. Based on how many complaints there are I don’t think we’re all having bad internet connections.

So, anyone else struggling with lag in WvW?

Exactly, Xtorma, but because of the way perception works it is easy to see the offensives launched against you than those against your enemies. So often it feels that a realm is grouping with another but in reality they share a similar mind and once given a chance they would rip each other apart.

I emphasis that my own comments may not reflect the truth, but I am in Tier 1 and I do see a lot of comments implying guild truces. As I previously said even if a truce has been made human nature shall ensure it is shortly lived.

We’ve all seen the accusations. Myself, I try to believe people are misguided than wilfully ignorant. Is amuses me so when I see accusations of SBI and in fact any other. It is difficult to believe that offenselves elsewhere are occuring when you’re focused by two servers.

Kanikani is right to an extent. At least on SBI we will over extend last minute to claim points and rob other servers of them when the tick becomes 5 minutes or so. Which really is no more a less valid tactic than anything else but as I’ve seen on these forums there are point hunting servers who avoid engagement at any cost.

That was the Warhammer style of things. How many servers do Warhammer have?
Not many.

Ultimately I think it comes down to players and our frames of mind. We can make these forums miserable and we could focus on PvDoor as someone said.

2v1s do happen but I doubt they are as coordinated as one thinks. And if you do doubt this about SBI, transfer over and witness our attempts at getting people to stack. Hah.

I agree, My, though I never played that game. In Warhammer we had a lot of guild vs guild hate going on and it lead to intense battles.

@Occam your first reason is exactly what I thought. It made sense that a 2nd server would be after the 1st while the 3rd kinda weaseled into the 1st land.

And for the mathmatical part does make sense.

There are already roaming 5 man groups. If you want it, you’re going to have to take the matter into your own hand and get at it. Supply camps, sentry points, dolyaks. You can do a lot with just five men, I rolled in a 5 man group and wrecked hell on the enemy supply routes. It is also pretty rewarding if you do it right.

Also you never listed your server which makes it hard to set something like that up.

I feel though that treaties aren’t that wrong to have. Tactically you know two opposing servers can only hold the peace for so long and it is only logical that you bring more men to break the back of the strongest server.

Constantly 24/7 treaties won’t ever happen.

Look at any of the score monitor threads and you’ll see a lot of people talking about 2v1ing. There are legitimate times where a server will notice the two opponents locked in combat and then swoop in and attack the flank. The point of this post is to discuss 2v1ing and try to change the perspective of those who believe that is what happens.

Countless times SBI has been accused of allying with another server, just as it has claimed others allied against them. I think this is all perspective. Lets use EB as an example. Jade Quarry defends against SoS at DG while JQ and SoS forces attack SBI SM.

SBI will see two servers attacking SM. The reality is JQ or SoS is piggybacking on the other server and trying to steal glory for themselves. What SBI does not see is that SoS and JQ are locked in battle at DG. This gives life to the concept that SoS and JQ made an alliance. 2v1ing.

This happens often and I really think that destroys WvW for people. So I wanted to discuss this civilly and see if explaining how it can be perceived as unfair when it isn’t will relieve from of the hostilities forming.

Decklan.7540:

So SoS, how does it feel to have SBI do their old “you siege a place for a few hours we swoop in and take it kthxbai” tactic on you guys several times?

It isn’t fair, but hey war isn’t fair, but maybe now you’ll understand why the hell we are all so kitten confused on JQ that we get double teamed all the kitten time.

SBI must have a pretty darn good PR machine to keep them so squeaky clean reputation wise cus I rarely if ever see people attack them when they are open. If, god forbid, we leave our flank open for a second its attacked immediately by whomever is hungry.

Probably the reason we are so jaded. Countless times I see us push into SBI lands only for you guys to attack our flank instead of attacking SBI elsewhere. But, whenever SBI attacks us you join in on the party.

Last night we had to try and defend you guys attacking dawn over and over while sbi attacked our bay over and over. Obviously we would lose one. Funny thing is the entire time SBI was rampaging over all of your territory.

First and last wvwvw post I’ll ever make cus in about a few seconds I’ll be called a whiner or a brat. Personally I don’t care. Just pointing out the obvious that you guys clearly cannot see.

Not going to call you a whiner or a brat. What you see as an opposing team isn’t the whole story. Often it seems like a server is 2v1ing, but in reality there are smaller less noticeable actions taken by others. Jade Quarry has a reputation for piggybacking of SoS attacks but in reality they fought bloody hard at DG with SoS so it isn’t true it just seems that way.

That is the thing with WvW. If you push into enemy land and do not have adequate forces then you’re going to get bum rushed from the side. SBI tends to flip keeps and expects to lose them but the point of flipping is to get rid of upgrades and deprive the enemy of defense.

Play for fun, just try to relax and take it as it is. Just a piece of the game that should be fun man. Plus, people who call others who voice concerns whiners are just lame.

I think that arguing against people doing something that can reward golems (got a golem print) then they should never complain about people not having siege. Do puzzles to get your badges and get your gear and get siege and screw anyone who isn’t happy about it.

It isn’t about it being PvE or carebear. It is about a puzzle that rewards useful items and with a mesmer takes what? A second or two? Yeah. Totes not worth it. Lol.