Well, me and many others have been advocating this. And it’s not just HoT classes.
If any of you have been playing this game for more than 2 years, you’ll remember that about a year before HoT came out, they condensed the trait lines to limit you to 3 and they also eliminated the stat changes that came with the trait lines. In order to compensate for these loss of traits, they gave all of them to you as a base. The problem with this is that the increased defensive stats are not able to offset the offensive stats, so everyone across the board is outputting more dps.
Add to this the larger damage co-efficients on most HoT classes, and increased dps mechanics, means there’s a large power creep from the original balance of the classes and the game. There needs to be some buff to toughness / vitality. Double? No, that’s going overboard.
We’ve been asking for this ever since they made the trait stats a base. No avail.
Remember what anet said? Something pertaining to learning from previous mistakes and not separating players with expansions.
Appears they’ve gone against their own philosophy and learned nothing
I really don’t want to rant. Been there done that. But Anet if you are reading this, I just want you to know the most brutal and honest truth. Forget the PR. Fix your game.
PR > Fix Game
It’s damage control, denial of past mistakes, and cover-up crackdowns. It’s easier to do, but will negatively impact their revenue streams in the Long Term…they’ll of course be surprised when it hits & sinks into their reality.
Still waiting for the ability to save a build template like we did in GW1.
Websites can already do it…why can’t GW2?
And they’ll expect a full game price for the new expansion they are releasing. When players say “nah I’m good” they’ll get a big dose of reality for sure. Keep it up anet
So a thief is OP because one caught you with everything on cooldown and you were on a high latency connection? With those circumstances pretty much any burst build will kill you with big numbers super fast.
Single shot skills like Kill Shot, Gunflame, Eviscerate, Churning Earth, Grave Digger, etc can hit harder. Channeled skills like Rapid Fire, Whirling Wrath, Hundred Blades, Volley, etc can hit harder (much in some cases).
I can go over the condi burst like Skull Grinder or Burn Guardians that can drop 10+ stacks of fire on you which will kill you in about 2 steps.
Basically in that scenario just about any class has the ability to drop you in a couple seconds.
Yes, there are issues with some burst skills and combos, but I have pulled off 3 10k vaults… you let me know what other profession can blast 30k damage in a matter of seconds? And if you think that’s ok, we should probably give those capabilities to all professions in the name of “balance” right?
A rifle warrior hit my thieve buddy for 15k last night LOL
I welcome gankers. I’m having a blast right now with these so called “great” roamers from JQ server. All glassy thieves
Yeah whats up with that? After some months away, I re-installed and I kept running into Thieves that blow up on shatter. I kinda expected more condi tbh or at least some more evade spam >.>
They are falling into the dependent on other players concept. When you have so many roamers you can often go a bit glassy knowing full well you’ll have backup, catch them alone though….
I think what catches a lot of people off guard with my necro is I don’t run condi and solo roam. Condi has become autopilot mode and boring. I think a lot of us are just expecting “great another xyz condi player” because lets face it you see that +18% duration food and roll your eyes. I don’t blame them for running to win meta junk though. Just wish people would take a chance and quit worrying that there guild tag matters more than just having fun.
FEED ME MORE
I think everyone misses the point that balance is all over the place in this game, well not everyone but get my drift. If you run bunker/heavy armor you should be able to take some punishment and reduce damage, ya know the idea since the dawn of time.
Yes, thieves are suppose be deadly and hit like mac trucks but at the same time shouldn’t the other player be able to compensate for his damage via his build and gear?
I think that’s the idea ya’ll are missing with the OPs complaint. Hence the balance postings left and right in the forums.
I welcome gankers. I’m having a blast right now with these so called “great” roamers from JQ server. All glassy thieves
HoT screwed things up so badly plans were most likely scrapped across the game to fix the damage done. I wouldn’t really expect much until the new expansion and only buy it if things turn out good.
I would find another game to chill around, if it’s no longer playable for you. Come back in a year or two.
Not a great way to earn trust. Screw up and expect more money?
Power necro. Be a man.
Doubt there ever was a plan as well. Why do you think devs were pulled to work on pve/expansions and there’s little to none working on wvw currently? Because there is no intention to improve wvw, just string along the loyalists.
Yea the lag and the pathetic optimization needs to be looked at, and yes, before anyone goes “omg look at that complex code” I really don’t care and neither are the players that will alt f4 for the day.
And that’s key what archon said. Players do not care for the complex explanations. It’s a game and service customers want to play, nothing more. Everyday working people want an escape and do not want complexity, just a simple yes or no.
It doesn’t work, they move onto another game. It’s that simple.
A bunch of people outright quit, never to return after every single tournament as confirmed by Anet. I know for a fact that some of them were guild drivers, pugmanders and community organizers. The biggest things WvWvW had going for it were the combat and the community and the game arguably got worse with most of the patches. People voted with their feet. No people, no MMO and this one is now 4 years old running on an even older engine, a tournament would likely be the final nail.
The game probably couldn’t handle it tbh with this color condi boon laser show anets got going on. Look at it now, you even get close to a fight and the lag intensifies 5000 billion fold.
I think it’s very brave of you to keep the dream alive but can’t really recommend a tier. The lag in this game is terrible and for a guild that needs to be 100% on cue it’s going to be rough. A guild like you are planning is going to need to fight a horrible condi meta that needs constant cleansing and communication.
Maybe after the relinkings this Friday, make a decision with your guild on what tier would work for you. Look at the scores in each tier because certain servers will ruin a tier with massive blobs and ppt heros. It’s just not fun……but hey you could be that guild that runs them over and strikes fear into the blob. I have seen very small crews in the past month do some pretty amazing things against big blobs but have zero clue what the builds entail cause I just run solo most of the time.
I say go for it
I think it was how the tournament was spec’d. It was too long and commanders/guilds got burnt out.
Maybe having shorter tournaments and rewards, REAL rewards anet. Please no more crap to junk up people’s inventory or useless currency.
I just don’t know how you do a tournament today with so little tiers thought the idea may bring more players from pve/pvp into our mode. Ya know anet…how you’re trying to force wvwers into pvp to make it look like it has core numbers?
Ah don’t worry about it. That TPA guild isn’t very good anyways and they are fun to troll plus aggravate.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zoWHconoDNk
Meh, it’s what BG does. Cliche excuse “we’re taking a break” is too obvious.
No better compliment as a server than to have constant hate posts made by angry children, stay mad.
Salty enough to respond to his post lol
One of the challenges we’ve seen in the past with anet is that they are sensitive even when players provide positive criticism and have the best of intentions. So players become frustrated and mouth off in forums.
The lag is back for me this week particularly. Big fights will always be an issue, but I’m just running to north camp with no zergs around and the game looks like it can’t keep up or something.
Same issues in pvp and frustrations. Seems lots of salty postings in their realm as well at anet.
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/pvp/Awaiting-a-Response
Stop being paranoid, guys! I’m sure there is a perfectly reasonable explanation as to why WvW has been left behind regarding Ascended rewards.
Gaile would not lie! "ArenaNet developers work on, care about, and support the different modes of playing Guild Wars 2 with equal passion, dedication, and interest.”
Very PC and sounds like something my job would post on their website relating to “green recycling”. Unnecessary to tell the public how you care when you are a gaming company. You’re not dealing with tax payers or a board, just providing an video game entertainment service lol
Consolidate tiers or make free transfer to counterstack bg…then make rewards better…then make ppk more. That will fix wvw.
Free ?
China Gw2 is frre to play HoT . Go there my little kid XDDDDDDDDDD
Whatever happened to the china server thing? I asked in map chat. Everyone said all the players stacked on 1 server pier tier and ruined it.
Sounds familiar…….
you wrong. china only SEA have fight.
There are two WvW Tier, and 3 way full blob at ebg also Queue 100+ during Sea.
China no PPT pressure therefore no guilds go RED/Green/Blue BL, they go EBG or ETOM for fight.There are many Guilds at EOTM coz EBG always 90+ Queue when they play.
this is my guild at china wvw vid :
http://www.bilibili.com/video/av7730511/
Calm down….I said I only asked in map chat and that’s what other said. Take the one labeled chill pill.
Find another game, your friends most likely did
You must be talking about Monkey. Thankfully he is on DB not BP.
I thought Ajax was on DB and Monkey was still on BP. If they are both on DB, looking even more forward to the relink.
Ajax is still on Kaineng as far as I know. He is an … acquired taste.
By far the best troll and most entertaining player in this game. Other players often try to be a witty troll, but this guy is king lol
Consolidate tiers or make free transfer to counterstack bg…then make rewards better…then make ppk more. That will fix wvw.
Free ?
China Gw2 is frre to play HoT . Go there my little kid XDDDDDDDDDD
Whatever happened to the china server thing? I asked in map chat. Everyone said all the players stacked on 1 server pier tier and ruined it.
Sounds familiar…….
I think I’ve had one roaming fight in that area since the new DBL was released.
However, those animals living their are thriving! #OnePlanet
If anyone think people play less because of scoring, linking, or maps, then you really are out of touch with the people who quit.
It’s because game balance went to hell with HoT leading to REALLY dumb and boring roaming, GvG, and zerg metas. People that still play propose even dumber ideas like nerfing condies which are only going to make this issue worse, because then we get even more tanky and sustain, yay!!
WvW lived on the basis of the game being fun to play, not score. Maybe an expansion that drastically changes balance can change direction, but small changes are worthless for regaining a playerbase.
100% right. The boring meta made almost all the GvG guilds leave within a few months following HoT’s release. When you have your most hardcore dedicated players leaving the game in a mass exodus because of how kittening terrible the gameplay has become your game has serious problems.
You can well add deployable canons and reward tracks, these are just gimmicks; it won’t make me or my friends reinstall the game. The gameplay itself is worse than ever, not even a server merge will fix that.
Completely agree, this meta is boring. Not just wvw, the whole game mode is boring. Fights just are not what they use to be, it’s mindless colors flying all over the place and over the top damage + condi bs.
My guess is they are trying hard to push this pvp e sports dream. They most likely want to get the numbers they need to make it look interesting so they incorporated ascended gear, which is attracting to wvwers.
We’ve been asking for it forever, but of course pvp like pve yet again gets the special treatment and wvwers must leave our game mode to get what we want because they are literally handing out ascended gear in pvp.
You’re just a third class citizen buddy, not even second
Thanks for the advice!
Why even have the EWP feature if it never works? Same here, just times out and get kicked to citadel.
Because it’s college football bowl season I like to hang out next to the xmas tree in the living room and play wvw while watching the bowls.
My wi-fi router however is kinda outdated me thinks cause it’s choppy graphics. I’ve read somewhere that comcast, which we all know is a lovely service, recommends certain routers for ideal conditions. Mine is not on the list of course. Can anyone recommend a good one they have xp with?
One website recommended this monster for comcast service:
https://www.amazon.com/Motorola-High-Speed-Certified-Spectrum-MG7550/dp/B01JGT2JI6/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&qid=1478529034&sr=8-1-spons&keywords=motorola+mg7550+wifi+modem&psc=1&linkCode=sl1&tag=cable-modems-20&linkId=5d5957528531ccb186694d0c58293541
settings-options-difficulty-ez mode
Kinda in and out on rev because I enjoy all the class flavors. What are you all running for condition rev roaming? I feel like I need to learn the class before I do something crazy like power.
So far I’m running the noob dire with undead runes with mace/axe and sword/shield with bursting runes and concentration. Dire trinks.
Corruption-2,3,3
Retri-2,2,2
Herald-3,1,3
Any advice is greatly appreciated.
it means everyone is on holiday – nothing more nothing less…..
True dat, people looking for conspiracy theories lol
Despite how heartless and vile the devs are to wvwers (joking) they have loved ones too
Your best bet is SOS mid pop of NA ,good pop of OCX ,balance eu …………see ya there mate im from sydney lots of aussies and annoying kiwis on this server, all country is also welcome to SOS we fight we die together even go balls deep of blobs bigger then us .
Twas fun wiping the DB zerg this morning. Bust out those glass necros baby!
I know DBL has its faults, but personally I think it’s a really beautiful map and brings a nice refreshment to the same old strategies and landscapes of Alpine BL’s. Can’t wait to be red again and defend my DBL all week long!
Shouldn’t be too hard, nobody goes there.
Meta: Run condi and Run from fights.
*Hits you once with new HoT class build, puts 15 conditions on you. I go invulnerable for 40 seconds.
Make sense?
No idea how enemy can put condition when ranger have 1500 range. I always stay 1500 range and i won’t get conditions at all.
It’s a joke, calm down.
*Hits you once with new HoT class build, puts 15 conditions on you. I go invulnerable for 40 seconds.
Make sense?
While I think it’s great you wipe so many from the great evil empire BG….the game play looks extremely boring in T1. No idea why people love that blobbing but kudos I guess.
100% agreed, there needs to at least be an option to turn those huge pop up notifications off. Wish they’d have a poll about something we want lol.
Right lol
We’re hitting wvw hard guys! Our next poll is camp capture ring shapes!
-Circle
-Square
-Pagan pentagram
One of the bigger autopilot classes to play.
I said this when it came out and ofc everyone jumped me with “kitten AT LEAST ANET IS WORKING ON WVW” and the typical “they aren’t that bad.” Dude, try playing something like thief, then have that notification kitten up your Shadowstep resulting in you Shadowstepping in place. Its kittening annoying and there is ABSOLUTELY NO REASON FOR THE LACK OF A TOGGLE IN THE OPTIONS.
Exactly. It’s also wonderful when you are just basic dueling, which I know is a small population of players but seriously, no option?
I bust out my thief and I have to agree, it’s a kittenallenging with that horrible billboard in my way when moving around. In general, the message is just very distracting when fighting 1vx as well.
OPTIONS please. It’s been asked for several times in this forum over the last few months. I can ask my brother in law at Intel to do it for you, would take him 20 seconds to program most likely lol
They’re on AR i think. I also used to be in a guild [lion] that quite a few members of Trex were in. Top notch players and it was always a pleasure to roam with them. Another guild up there on the level of Trex is BOZ who are currently on YB. They’re extremely well organized and i frequently see them wipe much larger numbers than they have. SNKY is pretty good as well, they were on FC i think. You’d be surprised how many really skilled guilds there are on smaller servers.
Agreed, some pretty skilled small crews in T3 right now. I’m just hoping it doesn’t attract the lame “T1 roaming” crowd, who consists of 8-30 man groups lol
No idea, but not bandwagoning makes me better human being. Anet could add those loyalty rewards already.
I could use around 5 more stacks of tomes, which they’d most likely reward us for server loyalty lol
I agree with james, much bigger issues to address like fights. Hence even roaming is dead as well since we have class imbalance and condi king at every turn.
The awesome communities that last awhile from launch. The wvw reset anticipation in Lions Arch with your HOME SERVER and seeing all the server guilds come together and poke at each others style of play.
The raids going till insane late night hours because we were having so much fun and teamspeak was epic.
Grouping up with someone you completely didn’t know and having some roaming chemistry sudden formed into a roaming guild.
The first time I tagged up and had an entire map of players who I didn’t know supported and help me develop.
Overall, it’s the people
Sigh………
I agree 150%, please give us an option to disable them. They are helpful for commanders or scouts I would imagine, but really needs an option, very distracting.
Roaming is 8 people now?
SOS, depending on linking next week ebay for cheap transfer.
Constant action and at least one tag present at all times it seems. Cool community and new guilds have arrived.
Rarely have a que too!
NO MORE PVE IN WVW.
Caps means I’m super serious.