Guild Wars 2

OP here, this was not meant as a troll post; I don’t think anything is really wrong with the class at all. I’m glad to see that obvious issues like the swap bug are now fixed, I don’t use the swap trait so didn’t know. I am not aware of a bolas bug as i don’t use that really either.

I will say however, that having teamed with multiple warriors in PvE, it is a pretty obvious observation that most people I play with do not really move and juke and kite like I do. I believe that discrepency makes some players feel the class is too frustrating to enjoy.

I read promotional materials about warrior being a movement class, and that is what makes it for me. In fact I don’t feel as flexible on the battlefield with a theif as I do a warrior, although I’ll edmit to not getting a high level theif built up at this point to compare.

I like the complexity and the challenge. If guards are “easy” then so be it, let the ones who can’t master battlefield movement roll a guard. if warriors are buffed it will become a faceroll and everyone will have one, and eventually something will get nerfed, and the whole class will evolve into something it wasn’t intended to be (highly mobile heavy armor with a big bite and lots of styles to bite with).

I would not complain if we got a little buff to regen, but I can live with it as is. I’d rather see current issues resolved, like actually showing the sword crit bonus in the tooltips when traited, actually showing the crit bonus from agony sigils, etc.

In short, I believe that many who dismiss the class as too frustrating are those who are not adept at movement in this game. Consider new styles, new mappings, maybe a fragpedal (awesome item).

I like the lionguard skins too, and the weapons had the stats I want. I could care less about the keys, although I didn’t realize the trinkets gave out so many more comms than weapons do. I really doubt that was the issue, they could just reprice the keys if it was.

My assumption was and still is that since the karka motif was introduced for the fractals kickoff that something else would take its place, with different stats and runes and maybe skins. But to do so they need an event to kick off, and the jan update sounds like it could be what we are waiting for.

Because the skins come from the dungeon traders, I could easily see them rotating others in place of the liongurd ones, or simply removing the weapons and allowing one to buy dungeon tokens with comms. Heck maybe they’ll just have her sell one-use skins matching the dungeon items? That would be really awesome

hopeful speculation is hopeful.

I have been told since my lst post that legendaries are somehow going to be re-statted. But I have seen nothing concrete for this.

So until that is confirmed, people are stressing about something that is just a freaking skin!

And if it is confirmed we may be talking 3 points! You may not pick up a single percent crit chance!

Good heavens people, if you want the price to go down then treat them like the silliness they are. Anet is having a great joke on you because you are borderline insane with your OCD, craft a legendary and be done OMG!

Bjarni and his freind not the ones? That is what came to mind.

I have to ask, why?

It is a skin.

It is designed to be dfficult and it succeeds at being rare as hens teeth. Which it should.

Would you rather just buy the skin in the cash shop?

I still say mapping ‘1’ to the center button is the ultimate base.

It autotargets the closest and starts the autoattack chain.

I dunno, my sister plays an ele and i play a warrior and more often than not she is drawing aggro and directing the fight while I am healing her. I would call that a definite role reversal….

LOL this game has an extremely bare cash shop for an entity that has been accused of gouging every nickel and dime it can.

Seriously, people obsess to the point of mental collapse about legendaries and they are the same stats as the exotics. Anet could sell the skins and do away with the purples but they don’t.

Then there are the minis. Kinda neat, and I felt compelled to make my two for wintersday, but they only take up room because i can’t sell them. Yet some people “gotta catch em all!”.

There are some neat things that are outside the game offering in just the slightest fashion; black lion salvage is just slightly better than anything available in game, likewise the trans stones. Those however barely make up for the fact that Anet has not even tried to milk skins, providing only a single skin upgrade for each armor weight.

keys to the chests? Well yeah that is a mini game like a jumping puzzle. Sometimes you have to just walk away and laugh. Thse who succeed you can give a golf clap and tilt your hat, and go about the more important business of seeing how many risen you can take on at once.

Really, for an entity that gets slapped with a stigma of evil for trying to make money, their cash shop is really really bare. Vault expansions, bag additons and character slots probably top the list in what they actually sell.

I have never before loved a game so much. When I die i want to buried in the harathi hinterlands that is how much I love this game.

Let me tell you the most important (for me) keybind I have.

That is making the center mouse button = the ‘1’ button. That is clicking the scroll wheel (not scrolling it, leave that alone).

I drive with my mouse hand and do not use the arrow keys the way games in 1990 taught us (ala DOOM), so if you are a pure keyboard person this will not help you.

However if you drive with the mouse in your right hand and WASD on your left, this will make your life so much easier. You may never use Q & E (I don’t).

Also, it is not mapped by default, but you can map “target next enemy”. I recommend the left tab for this in conjunction with the center mouse button edit above. You will find that sometimes you need to retarget and hitting tab with left ring finger is perfect. Anet got the targeting really perfect on this game I think, hats off to them.

I have other binds i use but those two are the only ones I find absolutely necessary beyond the default mapping.

May I also suggest programmable mouse with a couple of thumb buttons for ‘V’ and ‘F1’, and if you are going all out consider a fragpedal for 4 more keys bound to foot movement (although I am just getting the feel for that myself and can only recommend starting with 2-4 by foot).

commendation items won’t work in the forge. And unless it was just for wintersday, the commendation girl is temporarily disabled. That may be fixed I haven’t tried yet.

However, I was unable to put some karma rewards (from heart vendors) in the forge some time ago, what karma items are all of you putting in there (from where)? I have about a quarter million and change and nothing really to do with it.

It may help to understand the drop in value by considering the spread of demand. T6 exotics have a complicating factor we’ll address in a moment, but consider T5 armor for now.

for a given set of ingredients there are 6 armor items that can be made with them, and there are 3 rarities of each, and 3 weights of each. That means the same raw ingredients can be used for 54 separate armor items. The ingredients are 100% in demand for anyone crafting these, but the demand for individual items will only be 1/54 of that group. That is how, in this closed system, the finished product loses value, because it loses demand. Simple enough really, and the trend will always be towards this end.

Now there are also outliers; there are going to be about 500 other pieces of armor which use most of the same ingredients. There are also several hundred weapons which share demand for many of the same ingredients. For some of the metals even jewelry shares the demand. So the demand pressure of raw ingredients, as you can see, is much higher than any of the individual finished products.

As to your other conjecture about why someone should manufacture, you are assuming things that are simply untrue. Some things for sale are not crafted. Those that are crafted may not have cost the seller as much as the buy price would indicate, and your argument that they would be inclined to sell the ingredients instead assumes the sell price matches the buy price, which it seldom does. Not everyone is comfortable with the risk, nor are they always tracking the markets. And we are only presented with the OPs one-time research on a small subset, which only shows the waxing trend.

And of course, finally, we are specifically discussing exotics in this thread, and we all know that the cost factor of materials is ecto; a swing in ecto prices can make a huge difference in crafted item profitability, while the rare or fine ingredients have a similar, if lesser, effect.

I realize there are some combos that aren’t available, but given that we just got a new line I assume more will come over time. The Giver’s line introduced dozens of new exotics available for crafting, for instance.

What exactly are you wanting? Just more for the sake of more? That makes little sense.

That sure does look familiar, and while I can’t be sure, Bjarni the rabbit guy comes to mind.

and I believe you pointed out that you have little need to stack vitality, which is what I suggested. Your experience bears out my premise.

power levelling always forces this situation. Casual leveling as a side effect generally has the opposite effect. It is a tough balancing act for the designers and they have it down pretty good considering the number who disagree with the OP. Crafting is not at all necessary but a nice diversion.

I’ve gotten random sigils occasionally playing around with the mystic forge. No pattern that i can see, which is expected for that mode of play.

Don’t forget that you can transmute them between weapons if they match, and for below level 80 stuff that is not a bad way to go; heaven knows you get a ton of lesser transmutation stones stacked up on regular play.

bags give lots of cloth and leather in my experience. I have never found it beneficial to salvage for textiles, preferring instead to let the coppers add up from vendoring.

Your analysis is flawed because you can definitely make them without spending anything if you gather the resources.

Your assumed static link between the finished product and the components does not actually exist, you are missing the big picture by assuming it does. The relationship is coincidental.

That the componenets themselves cost more than the finished product is not unusual, as the components are not limited to only the finished product. Value is not necessarily added by irreversible assembly.

The fluctuation in this releationship shows a healthy economy actually.

It’s just a skin as far as I can see, what is the issue?

I have taken a couple of hard healing foes in WvW, and generally I can hang and win until they get a freind helping. I bleed them hard and stay mobile, but 2 on 1 I can’t take anyone unless they just suck.

stil, I am fine with that cause I bring a lot to the table when I bring a freind or three…

I never felt a sheild was any good, have you tried a horn instead?

I run sword & horn, rifle swap, full signets, and the following traits:

5
30-I/III/VIII
15-I
20-VI/IX
0

with knights armor with coral orbs, coral jewelry, lionguard weapons and a sigil of blood with a sigil of restoration.

This is a very survivable build, although there are times when I feel like a blade of grass in a weed-eater convention, but those are genarlly seldom and only specific solo situations.

I admit things like the swap bug are serious issues on the list, but really, i love this class.

I have no issue in 1 on 1 pVp although guards tend to take me down (mesmers and theives though do not, usually…). But I play a lot of PvE, and solo is great and grouped I feel soo valuable; an ele may be squishy, but an ele with a good warrior and some coordination is killer. An engineer may get overwhelmed, but an engi with a warrior is a force to be reckoned with! Two warriors with different builds make for a synergy that leaves even destroyer nests trembling.

I’v tried all kinds of combos and classes but warrior, which I never really considered something I wanted to pursue, turned out to be more addictive than tetris with a full crack pipe.

Hats off to anet, warrior does it for me. I’d like to see some new skins but otherwise BOOYAH!

flordelyn.1965:

I have to be level 20-25 in order to gather the materials required to make a level 20 item.

No, you don’t that’s a lie. I leveled my warrior in armorsmith and was always right on level from 10 up to 80. There were a couple of times I had to run to the TP and buy a few scales or totems, but I always had plenty of logs and other garbage to sell for it.

Maybe you pushed your leveling too fast and didn’t take advantage of all the opportunities because you didn’t recognize them as such? Many do….

greedy corporate suits at anet hate quaggons and want them to suffer, it makes me cry! I heard talk they want to go forward with putting wheels on poisoned quaggon carcasses and selling quaggon wagons! Conspiracy!

Just kidding, and the wagon thing from the destiny NPC still has me laughing, but funny how I actually do feel some empathy for the poor critters when I can’t even finish the event; I don’t ned to finish it, I just want to! I’d say that part, at least, is missioned accomplished from the devs who wanted to incorporate altruism in a free-for all

If you are no good at AoE attacks then you just crippled your DPS with longbow and rifle gets the advantage for time (DPS is damage over TIME and wasted TIME kills DPS, obviously).

Which is one of the main reasons i like a rifle backup, because I use it noob-style the same way others use the speargun with spear. Because I overall suck when it comes to the finer points of archery

Much of this very well balanced class is a trade-off.

If you consider vitality, you have to consider the trade-off that it covers.

Toughness does nothing for damaging conditions while vitality seriously mitigates them.

So if you eschew vitality in favor of toughness, remember that your achilles heel is condition damage like bleeds, poison and fire.

My strategy, which is not the only one, is to stack toughness over vit, but make sure I can drop conditions readily. That is but one way to balance the trade-off.

You could also stack vit and toughness. But you then have less to spend on other things. The trade-off continues. Which is why i love this game and this class.

TL;DR
people who say vit is worthless for warriors are only telling half the story until they reveal what they traded that vit for, because vit is a powerful and linear stat (10 hp per vit point is substantial).

Toughness instead of vit, and trait the horn to remove conditions. It works very well.

adrenal heal, seems to make a difference in the regen rate overall, and the short times you are being hit with condition damage it helps stabilize you until the horn cools off.

all signets for me because I use them for the additional 10% crit, plus trait for 10% sword crit, and a sigil of blood becomes extremely effective. If swords aren’t your thing consider the same strategy but with +heal instead of +cond/bleed. Plus I find the other skills too situational for my tastes, I’d rather focus on movement and finesse. Not that signets are super great, just that they are versatile. Plus you can maintain quickness almost 100% of the time, which is realy nice in casual exploration mode.

you will get in over your head from time to time, but quite often you’ll find that jumping into a group of adds restores your health faster than they can hit.

In PvE I do well like this, in PvP I am good 1 on 1 but like any build 2 on 1 puts the odds far against you unless your opponents are really not batting a thousand. That is true with all classes IMO.

Also in PvP I don’t have problems with mesmers or theives as much as guards. Definitely a trade-off which is what makes this game so great.

Edit: If you find this a little too bland, you may want to try dropping a couple signets for shouts and traiting shout healing.

Last 3 days there has been mega lag on GoM, and speaking to others they have experienced the same thing. The server seems to lose track of you, sometimes kicking you and sometimes semi-correcting itself. I’m not talking hesitant response, I’m talking 15-20 second loss of response.

Is there something we can do on the client end? I have a nice gaming rig, a 12M connection and have never had issues. Perhaps this is part of a new anti-botting fix? If so it is seriously making the game unplayable.

Been that way and is also noted in the wiki that sigil of agony (for instance) is not reflected. Definitely frustrating, and similar to this is the +10% crit trait for swords does not affect the hero screen crit.

I run a tron and have similar issues. I found if I go into the razer mouse app in the tray and swap to a different setup it starts working. I keep two identical ones just because of that. Or a reboot works too.

I’ve had serious issues with this mouse, I love the profile but there are some flaky thhings gong on. Same with my razer headset, serious flakiness. Had to switch to a logitech.

It will require two transmutations and I think the armor being bound makes a difference. It could get expensive. And the armor involved all has to be the asme weight (light med heavy). Here is how it has worked in the past (and I don’t see why it would be changed)

12 trans stones
whisper armor
priory armor
trash armor
char from each order

1) level up your priory guy and get the priory armor
2) Then transmute the priory skin to the trash armor (keep it all unbound)
3) give the trash armor to the whisper guy
4) the whisper guy gets his whisper armor
5) transmute the trash skin (which is now priory) to the whisper armor
6) enjoy

trans stones don’t always seem to work as expected; great concept but far too many unwritten rules and/or bugs. Has to do with binding I think. However I have used them on leveling chars to transfer runes, with some success.

sigil of corruption goes nicely on a sword.

while levelling I suggest gems as upgrades instead of runes. Good runes are all interdependent but you will change armor pretty fast. Gems are independent and add nice little buffs, plus you’ll find plenty of them.

As for traits, until I made 80 I had only T1 open cause I couldn’t afford the book, but it never really impacted me the way getting new armor and weapons would. after 80 and maxing my armorsmithing the money situation improved. I wouldn’t worry a lot about traits really, not at that stage. Chasing the map/daily chests, farming mats and crafting will raise you up just about as fast.

Does kind of look dumb, but you don’t have to let the animation finish to get the buffs.

the trait part I view as just a reason to ignore traiting for it and spend the points elsewhere.

I’ve been doing this more and more, sword and warhorn, specced for bleed, alternatively toughness and vit and maybe some mercy runes. Still experimenting with utility skills but you can run all signets with this and still add a lot of support. blast for quickness, Start them bleeding, blast out weakness and vigor, burst and immobilize (no need to finish, just start the burst), power jump to the next group and repeat. You can even take on the role of rezzer with mercy runes if you want. Let someone else work on the crits.

Then play another class. Maybe butterflies are your thing. Judging from the popularity there is nothing horrible about it. I find it works very well as many others do.

solo it is awesome, small PvE groups it is double awesome, and in zergs it just rules!

I never liked the horn, I always went with an offhand axe, but when someone has a horn and uses it well, everyone benefits. And it is a nice stunbreaker. Plus it is purely a stats device. Now that I’ve started using it and learning how to really play it I can see the utility especially specced for sword.

If you play as just another weapon and board person, try the horn; you are almost specced out perfectly already. Or throw it into secondary because it does swap well with other setups, since it is pure utility. Don’t dismiss it without giving it a real try.

Monki.5012:

Although Id like to see Vengeance and fast hands to get fixed (and the countless other minor bugs out there) I am happy that they didnt nerf us in the first place.
I know other gaming companies starting with a B and ending with izzard nerf otherwise balanced classes to the ground for no reason.

Can I get an AMEN!

I disagree completely, as it is works fine, you can build up and hold the line or you can build/dump/repeat.

Quit whining because the class doesn’t favor your chosen strategy as much as you would like, and yes, claiming something is broken outright when it works just fine based on statistical popularity is whining pure and simple.

Interpret Interrupt.3824:

I want to use this thread as a food for thought thread and as an attractor of Arena Net attention.

Who knows, war love for this could be in the dec 14th patch.

In that case let me chime in and say I would like them to simply leave the warrior alone. Speccing for crit is not the be-all-end-all nor should it be, and I don’t want to see them change anything that impacts other build strategies (besides fixing the weapon swapping to work as stated). I consider this nothing but whining as crit works just fine as it is without promoting any particular build.

I don’t but maybe the bot-fighting team will want it.

In Isenfall lake there is an event where you are asked to clear the poisonous urchens from Lashoosh in isenfall lake. This is on GoM server.

This event seems to permanently stay on 8 of 9 urchins cleared. I know I’m not the only one who has scoured that place looking for #9, had many ingame chats with people doing the same thing. Poor little quaggans!

It isn’t a game breaker but it does kind of frustrate the immersion factor as you have to let the little guys stay sickly and you can’t help them. Plus it is one of the more rare underwater events, and one that should be solo-able.

I couldn’t find anything related searching, and it isn’t exactly hard to dupe, just go there on GoM and check it out. If it is just a matter of the last urchin being super well hidden then please satate so so a search will let people know, but we have crawled over every inch it seems and nothing.

I used to feel that way, thinking what the heck, should bring prices down, who am I to complain?

Thing is it is the same basic hack that people are using to port around the battlefield in PvP. And aside from gathering they are using it to farm drops as well. Both of those impact all players.

The potential for even worse impact is also there; if the development staff starts putting bandaid patches in that affect legitimate ports, adding extremely long delays to logs, or add charges or limit uses, that impacts everyone. Its not a thing anyone wants. This is a code exploit pure and simple and I believe I could duplicate it if I were so inclined. Which means a decent coder could patch it even easier.

But reviewing the botting I found a way to identify many of these toons with no doubt as to what they are doing. I won’t go into detail but of those I could catch with the bot reporter (maybe 10%) I logged about 30 tickets today. But the real fix is to close the hole on the exploit. It isn’t our job as players to be the front line against an exploit that they have to be aware of. The designers are hugely talented, I can’t believe that talent ends with the artwork and the concepts.

rozcinana.7249:

I have yet been able to sell an unidentified dye. I just can’t help myself and end up opening them every time. :/ I’ve gotten some decent dyes out of it though, including abyss twice but I didn’t sell them.

I know, right? I have so many I am starting to get repeats on this toon

yep, post the guild name for all to see as well.

I really don’t care if devs don’t consider it a bug, as long as anet expects the community to help police against bots they are going to have to step up to the plate and provide the tools. This is a bug, the tool does not work the way it should.

Fix the stupid click report function so it does not drop the avatar if the toon ports out!

Otherwise the frustration will just lead players to give up.

If it isn’t an issue for him, then have him transfer to your server.

Thanks all, going to see if I can make it today. Although it looks like there is enough on the TP to just buy it at this point.

Actually yeah, I would love to be azble to use the tens of thousands of karma I have. I don’t necessarily need gold but craft mats would be a start. Obviously this is sanctioned by ANET considering all the craft mats that are available for karma (apples, bananas, avacados, etc).

I would be happy with an inflated price actually. especially for those times when I just needed a few of one thing or another. I don’t see how this would unbalance anything, bots can’t farm for karma very well.

lanky, +rep for that i never even noticed the icon before!

From what I see it is a marketing piece for alienware.

Which, I just have to throw in this plug, AW laptops are some of the few that offer firewire outside of the convoluted MAC universe and musicians often snatch them up used just because of this. But that is a musician topic and not a GW topic, really if I were building a game rig I would go with mid-range and nail the price/performance rather than try for the absolute best FPS benchmark I could find.