Guild Wars 2

mistlock just got the “return to my previous map” option added. Think that’s all we’re gonna get.

Which, is fine I think.

Wow the hostility here for asking a simple question. Fecal and Ori if you don’t know about something, at least don’t attack someone for asking about it. Using a strawman like “you must know better than anet hurr durr” is as useless as it is easily countered by “guess anet must know better than bethesda, capcom, microsoft, sony, 2k and everyone else publishing remasters hurr durr”

Let me be more plain. I’m not interested or speaking about ‘graphics’. They look fine. The art style compensates for minor flaws and overall the game is gorgeous.

But performance is bad on modern systems. Really bad. Anet wants to bring in new blood. Part of that is not putting off people who invest in their gaming for a great experience.

I don’t think you’re qualified to make assumptions about me Ori, or assertions about directx performance.

If you really think modern APIs play no part in how well an engine can perform, a quick google can immediately find mountains of data to explain why that’s not correct.

The existing engine renders with directx9 and does not make use of the massive improvements available in modern multicore systems.

Directx9 came out 15 years ago and has been superceded by dx10 since Nov 2006. DX10 was the standard for 6 years prior to release!

The fact that the engine looks as nice and runs as well as it does is impressive, but why are we holding back on a 60fps+ or 4k experience in 2017 in order to maintain compatibility for windows xp systems? They’re all dead. Long dead.

Gw2 needs an updated engine if the push is to bring in new blood this year. No one playing modern titles like battlefield 1 in smooth 4k is going to load up gw2 and think “25 fps seems like a fun way to learn a daunting new mmo”

After hearing about this for months from tons of guildies farming it I have been doing this between pvp matches for the last 2 days. Some thoughts:

The metas are not needed. You can show up late, cycle all vines, hit 200% for 7 free keys easily. The remainder buy from the vendor. Sure this costs aurilium and a couple of silver. Who cares? The aurilium in my coin wallet slowly increased even while buying keys.

People claiming upwards of 50+ ecto per run are overestimating. At best you can join a group with 8 instances and complete all 40 grands barely before time expires. 40e (avg 1 per rare) per run in a best case with 30e per run on avg, and sometimes less if instances fail or you’re not built for speed.

Still ~35ish ecto + scraps every half hour is an effective farm! Thankfully this event is restricted to only happen once per 2 hours.

So the design is that you do a 15-30 mins meta and get 5 guaranteed rares + scraps. You can get 25-35 more by map hopping. That is 6x to 8x as many as intended. If you did the regular meta 8x as fast as possible, 15 mins per run; it would take exactly 2 hours. This method produces the same wealth using 25% of the time, allowing you an advantage in time (90 mins between runs) to do other farms.

I think it actually qualifies as exploitative, so I’ll be stopping. But I do think until you lay it out in these terms it doesn’t really look on the surface like an exploit. Anet really needs to fix it asap though.

EDIT: what they need to do is increase the meta event rewards with 5 rare guaranteed bags and turn all the chests into the middle-quality chest. It works in each of the other HoT maps (and in VB where there are large chests at least they are randomly placed) having 1 key and one rarity of chest type. You know that if there were enormous crystallized caches in TD that appear after gerent in a straight line people would do this exact same thing.

As a dragonbrander in NA I have my share of night fighting with the Taiwanese Tsunami as well as plenty of helm’s deep fights during the daytime where I’m bound to lose but manning the ballistie or carts might help eke out those extra 2 minutes until a score tallies….

Maguuma. They have a few troll guilds who /wave and then 5v1 solo pve’ers in the JP (seriously starfleet dental? I thought you were better than that) but for the most part they fight with honor and fight hard. Not many guilds will have the intestinal fortitude to man an overnight zerg in the hopes of repelling NNK TFV CCR etc but Maguuma might the only server who did so successfully and it won them the week.

I’m sick of thieves claiming there’s nothing OP about the biggest burst in the game, constant stealth, and the ability to spam a single skill 5 times in 2 seconds.

of COURSE they’re broken.

If you play a thief and you don’t think they’re broken then you’re bad at being a thief.

Chimaira.8534:

The only map we completely owned last night was our own… we were kicking you out cause you kept on taking supply camps. To upgrade a tower / keep what do you need …. ? So you annoying little groups kept taking them so we came out and started to run you over and it worked, we got peace for 30 minutes if not more.

EDIT: I hope your not the 2 guys that weren’t 80 that were trying to take the supply camp. Cause 20 seconds later , 20+ yaks came strolling in, which nearly took the supply but it was a nice try.

Edit #2 : just logged in to see DB trying to take NW tower from our BL… good work on that it was fully upgraded. I don’t know what happened to Maguuma there.

Yeah I usually try and harass the score leaders BL. My guild is 99% pve focused so I lone wolf a lot. No I certainly wasn’t the sub80. I wvw with a banner warrior.

I have to say after giving it more time that while this match up is really really unfriendly to small group tactics I usually play, the big scale stuff is much better than I’m used to. Guess I just have to play more at night.

Seriously.

I was just in there taking your keep.

again.

No one wall climbed, teleported, anything of the sort. Put your head on straight, we beat your south door open with rams, walked in, decided we liked the look of it and took it.

Quit crying… I mean seriously, earlier in the thread we’ve got this:
“I’ve been having fun in East Keep Dragon brand Borderlands. A Solitary Monument to our stalwart defense, and ability to ferry in supplies from other worlds.
God bless that waypoint. It’s the only thing allowing us to hold.”

So maguuma has no qualms about using contested waypoints to hold keeps they shouldn’t; bragging about it here even.

And then you yak’s bend claim every single time you lose you keep it MUST be hackers. oh lawd it couldn’t be anything BUT hackers! No really! they hax! We have proof trust us!

I’ve been in your borderlands for 3 hours. We took your keeps, we took your garrison, we left for a bit and they we took your keeps again. 4 major captures and I was right there at the doors for each of them.

Enough. If anything actually happened then show it but for pity’s sake quit crying wolf.

Wow, a neconecoknights guy was what, walljumping? teleporting? circumventing the map?

I’d like to see it, I’ve run wvw with the taiwan guilds a fair bit and never seen anyone doing those things.

Rhyis.7058:

Maguuma is officially the official role playing server.

Odd, everyone on dragonbrand seems to be under the impressions that we are.

It’s why our wvw ally left to sos, and we get the outmanned buff all day long every day.

If it wasn’t for a few stubborn idiots and glorious Taiwan Dragonbrand would be dead last, no one here wvw’s.

Wow.

Coming from the unofficial role play server and you guys are our first opponents who take themselves seriously…. and boy do you ever take yourselves seriously.

There is no /bow and /wave peaceful jumping puzzle camaraderie. You zerg maps you already completely own (why?!); and not just small zergs either…. no. I Was just in YB BL flipping a few camps and killing a few yaks and even though you owned 100% of the map… you came down on me and the 1 other guy on the map with a group of 40+!

Holy wtf.

Plus thieves. Jesus you guys field a lot of cookie cutter thieves. Just kittening tons of them…. everywhere thieves. GROUPS of kittening thieves! Can’t fault you for using such a broken build but really…. don’t you ever get bored of permastealth cheese and mindless zerging?

I’m hoping we drop back a tier to where wvw was way more fun.

Seriously.

Why kittening play anything else? perma stealth then hit for 10k.

As a fully exotic invader/soldier geared warrior (so stacking 1800 vit and toughness) I can still be killed before the thief loads in on my screen because the optimization is so kittening horrid.

BRB leveling my ranger.

I identified walnuts as near riskless before halloween and was very lucky to catch when someone tried to move the market on them. Until this I was kicking myself.

Thanks for the 14g and freeing all my bag space.

Best OP in days on here.

Thank you.

I’m still going for my legendary because I want that shiny disco ball in wvw. That and I’ll pvp a fair bit.

But arenanet has to earn my money again. People who say “It’s only $60 and you played for 3 months” don’t know kittens, and I figure I’m paid up around 8-9 more months of problem and grind free gaming before my CC sees another gem purchase.

They execute that well for that long and we can see about getting back on terms.

Joey.3928:

Guild Wars 2 is still very much like Guild Wars as far as gear goes..

Obvious from this statement that you never played 1 you shill.

I just want to point out to the people who haven’t yet tried how easy it is to get your legendary precursor.
I got dusk on the first chest of my second dungeon. (this wasn’t just luck, another in my group looted dawn, and two other ppl each looted the legend). Then it took me 45 minutes to get the mats for forge…
Gift of mastery is after 500 badges of honor from wvw. I’m no where near that yet but I will get there. Honestly, this is not a gear treadmill.
So far wow wars 2 has been a lot of fun even since all the idiots who want to have fun without getting good gears (AKA WHINERS) and I must say the art and environments are AMAZING. Good job Arena net

Rob Hrouda…. fixin kitten, explainin it well, standin his ground.

When my grandkids ask “why did arenana turn evil?!” I’ll be sure to tell them about you and how you fought the good fight until the end. respect.

What we need more of are newbies to the franchise with terrible math skills to come in and belittle everyone who has concerns.

I mean seriously, when are they ever going to be represented on these forums?!??!

They said that after 1 month of preorders that the game was officially profitable. That was well before launch or gem sales.

Arenanet likes small teams. And they have small teams that produce great results. Like the team of 2 people responsible for balancing every skill on every class. (shout out necros!whats up rangers! all your kittentill broke? sorry yo!)

I don’t think your fears are founded.

Most of the people I run into when I’m not LFG fractals or EMs.

Seriously, many of you are awesome.

If you like MMO’s you’re going to love guild wars 2.

And if you DON’T like MMOs, then you’re REALLY going to love guild wars 2.

Cmon… you gotta be loving it! ehh? Ehh? All the gear checks and kicking and spamming, complaining, blaming, whining, wiping and sitting around in towns waiting for groups. FUN!

A non ascended server…..

yes… this I like.

days and days of silent derision to the paying player base posting in the mega thread and the only reply we get is the same weak PR spin in some unrelated thread?

Is everyone at the office and on the design team seriously drinking this koolaid?

one of another million or so threads of this nature that will never get answered by an employee.

Great name voltron, but I really think they got bigger fish to fry in the “answer to upset customers” department. Don’t hold your breath on this one.

“8%, wvw availability”

Get your facts right and I might read the whole post next time. Both of those are flat out wrong.

You really gotta wonder if everyone in charge of this game for the last 5 years is off on vacation and are going to arrive back to work to find out that some idiot decided to roll this shortsighted nonsense out.

…just wishful thinking.

Only 2 days in and already people are being general kittens in chat, it’s impossible to find a group doing your level and people are bored of the 9 levels.

My feedback: read the 10,000 post thread of people pissed off about ascended gear, take it very seriously, and reply to your customers soon and honestly.

The rest of patch was fine, and the lag can be forgiven.

Hey guys, everyone still pissed about this? Good

Arenanet still not responding to their players? That’s bad.

More and more people still getting refunds for their game? That’s worse.

Arenanet still not refunding the biggest fans who preordered day 1? That’s callous.

Delete this thread for trying to censor the feedback of paying customers.

Dogblaster.6713:

So you know guys … FoTM and Asceded gear was created for players (HC PvE) who wants to progress pve. So if players want to progress it you bet they will be picky, I am hc pve player myself with about 200+ explorable dungeon runs and you bet I am really not inviting just some randoms with bad gear and no skills.

So again, just repeating. FoTM was created mainly for level 80 level HC players who wants to progress. So I dont see any reason to complain about elitism .. cause thats how it is.

So you bet that random/pug groups are going to have problems in this dungeons, you bet that players that want to finish every difficulty possible will ask for best players only. If you dont like it, make your OWN group and just run difficultry one with whoever you want.

I will make mine group of elitist players and nothing you can do about it.

“bad gear and no skills.”

lol, the fact that you think gear is the same as skill and hundreds of dungeon runs makes you good is enough for us baddy. You’re the problem.

Already LA is spammed with “lf1m fractal level 2”

annnnd everyone without level 2 is cursed out.

but hey… we got this before we got a working LFG so /map is still a toilet at least.

Carighan.6758:

Before you shred them to pieces, consider this:
Since release, there was been rampant feedback that the game needs “more stuff to get”. “More stuff to do”. “More things to aspire to”.

In other words, thousands and thousands of posts have asked for exactly this Ascended gear.

ANet didn’t lie to us. They listened to player feedback. And this just goes to show why as a developer you really shouldn’t listen to your players, because unlike developers they might think they know what’s good for the game, but they (or me) probably have exactly 0 actual clue.

none of that is true.

I got into a pvp match… when I looked at the minimap and saw 4 team mates chasing a single thief around our own base for over a minute while the other team had a 3-cap I realized how bad pvp dailies really are.

So I went and laid down dead in the graveyard and chatted to the other team until the round was over.

Great idea…. or the greatest idea? I just can’t decide.

So either Arenanet was:

-totally and completely inept and incompetent in their design.
-lying to maximize sales right from the beginning.
-bullied by corporate bottom lines into abandoning their morals.

I can’t figure out which answer is the worst possibility.

Coffeebot.3921:

(which doesn’t affect anything outside of one specific dungeon)

lol

So huge stat gains aren’t useful in wvw and pve?

[&Ag-gkAAA]

http://imgur.com/N1PBX

It’s way beyond any slight bump. “if that’s a blue then even the best will only add 20 condition damage”

how wrong could you be. Go look. This is in game now.

“they dont owe you nothin”

“it’s fixing a big gap in gear”

“just wait, its ok”

“lol so go.”

“people were bored”

“manifesto? what manifesto?”

Look how much trouble I just saved some kids. I’m a giver.

UnrepentantProcrastinator.7420:

Felivastus.2470:

Can I get banned for it?

If you’re asking if ANet has a way of detecting whether you use it (other than, you know, this thread), then I don’t know.

They’ve already made a public statement that the mod is illegal.

Then they said it WAS allowed, then that it wasn’t, was, wasn’t, corrected the corrected correction of the original message ….

meh.

Wow, that’s….

um, a whole lot better all right.

And I can only get this by grinding 9 rooms with a group of people?
And we kick anyone who brings the reward level down right? gotta be efficient…

….yeah…

So there we go, data mine the patch and sure enough….

It’s the same tired old power creep system that we were sold on giving up.

Even Colin J. said in another thread that Legendary weapons won’t be gear-improved until ascended weapons come out “far in the future” so they intend to drag out the gear grind over a long period of time…. (Though OOPS, they were upgraded, so…)

Well people who are bored without gear tiers sure won’t be sucked in to long drawn out gear tiers instead of none. This literally solves no problems of “bridging gaps” while insulting and maddening some of us.

So again… arenanet. Are you executing your vision of the game with this?

Tell us now. We deserve that much.

Kromsin.6359:

So dramatic! For 60 this is awesome entertainment. There is no monthly fee. So whatever you get is gravy. Calm down dire straits people

Oh, so since you only paid $60 and don’t actually support arenanet going forward… but you feel like your opinion of “everyone else should be happy with whatever they get” is reasonable.

Tell us more please.

Never.6014:

stuff

Thanks…. I really wanted to know if I was completely off base. These are the exact things I was thinking.

If this is their plan and vision and manifesto made real then that’s troubling. If this isn’t part of the plan… equally troubling. I honestly cannot think up a scenario where this is a rational well thought out non-reactionary measure taken with the goals of the manifesto and the respect of the players considered. I’m trying.

No one else even gonna try at answering those questions?

Fair enough, there’s not really any way those get answered that makes anet look good.

Thanks Cele, let me see if I can summarize your views.

Yes it’s the vision but the vision changed.

No idea why they were silent.

(you’re mistaken about the wvw/pve ascension gear, chris said “eventually”, which lets hope happens sooner than wvw culling or guesting or downlevel loot or any of the "soon"s we’ve been given)

But it wasn’t a mistake to backtrack, it wasn’t a mistake to keep their customers uninformed, it wasn’t a mistake to throw away flat gear to make a teensy tiny gear grind instead; it was only a mistake to break the news like they did.

Gotcha.

“I’m anet polled the community before rolling out a huge disappointment, disaster averted!”