Then they should make achievements for losing in pvp. /miss newpvp achivements
They have that in place…..it’s called the leaderboards. just look at the rank 5 player…more losses than wins…cant play for kitten and is rewarded with a top spot. lmfao gg anet
I just fought a five-man with five solo players. Neither side had any fun.
I hope the developers are enjoying their vacation!!
Whats wrong with the leaderboards?
Isnt someone that cant play their class, has a 48% win ratio, supposed to be in the top 5 Versus much other skilled players with much higher win ratios and know their class???
RIP
the key issues (camera, targeting, bad UI) that make pvp in this game annoying for experienced players are obviously not going to be addressed. they have been there since beta and they are here to stay. i would like some input from the pvp community, is there any other mmorpg (and i dont mean moba) that does not force you to grind pve in order to get gear/levels for pvp? i really dont care for pve or grinding in any mmorpg, i find it boring and inferior to singleplayer/coop experiences that some games (like skyrim for example) that focus that aspect can offer. i like how you can immediately jump into pvp in gw2 and be on even footing with more experienced players when it comes to gear, but i can no longer tolerate the camera having epileptic seizures or being forced to tab target thru pets/minions/turrets (or the kitten ed windows on battle for khylo) or not being able to see where my mouse pointer is. now i am no software engineer but it seems to me as if these issues could be handled quickly if someone actually cared about handling them. it seems to me like gw2 has become a game that focuses pve because those players give more cash for gems. i can only conclude that arenanet intends to focus on giving those players new content and more stuff to grind and not on addressing the key game breaking issues that pvp has. the last patch that broke matchmaking, removed solo q and introduced skyhammer into ranked arena certainly did not help making the pvp experience more enjoyable.
My guild and myself have alll moved to Rift. The pvp is extremely active. I havent had a queue time longer than 5 seconds. The only grind you have is for PVP gear, but that is done whilst doing PVP.
We are all on Seastone . More and more daily are joining us.
I have yet to see any threads prior to this update requesting solo queue to be removed.
I however see nothing but, comment after comment, thread after thread of CUSTOMERS wanting solo queue back..
So my question is directed at the Devs. What the heck was going through your minds when you did this??? The community didnt request it.
More people are playing right now than before. Anet won’t even consider reverting back unless the number of people playing dropped substantially lower than where it was before the patch…
TL;DR Might as well stop making these kind of threads since it’s useless.
Where are you getting your info?? Myself personally know of at least, now, 70+ players that have stopped playing due to this kitten new system.
And thats not even counting the ppl in map chat that quit on a daily basis or the ones that state most of their guild has quit as well.
Well, I don’t like the changes either, but there are a lot of premade teams now that farm pugs like it’s a COF p1 speed run and they seem to be enjoying it. I can only hope anet isn’t trying to cater to people like them, but with how farmy the rest of the game is, it wouldn’t surprise me any. :/
That is exactly what Anet is doing. That was obvious when they removed solo queue. They are catering to top players in this new bullkitten pvp build. They are forcing people to group or get destroyed or gtfo. Id say move onto another game. Rift PVP is actually doing quite well and hasnt been kittened with since beta. They learned dont try to fix what isnt broken.
I know of 40 people that have quit gw2 pvp SO far and now play rift. Cmon over, were on seastone
IT IS A TERRAIN GLITCH THAT IS EXPLOITED BY ELES ALL THE TIME. WATCH WHEN U DOWN AN ELE ON CERTAIN MAPS…THEY ALWAYS MIST FORM TO THE SAME SPOTS AND THEN U CANT STOMP THEM. ITS A KNOWN EXPLOIT THAT ANET HASNT GOTTEN OFF THEIR kitten TO FIX YET. THE WHOLE PVP EXPERIENCE IN THIS GAME IS COMPLETE AND UTTER kitten NOW.
PUT SOLO QUE BACK. YOURE NEVER GOING TO BE ESPORTS NO MATTER HOW MUCH YOU TRY TO FORCE PEOPLE TO GROUP. THE PVP POPULATION HAS DROPPED QUITE A BIT SINCE THIS SEASON STARTED.
PEOPLE LOGGING INTO MY FRIENDS LIST IS GETTING FEWER AND FEWER…WTG kittenING UP A GREAT GAME.
ILL REPEAT….GW2 WILL NEVER BE ESPORTS
and no one got that lord with me watching it. did they??
your point is moot. i did my job. scrub
who cares about leader boards..its for kids or teenagers that still live with their folks…
becuz they trying to make this esports…kitten the solo player
WELL if indeed they are the best players the current leader boards should reflect that.
I would say it doesn’t effect matchmaking at all. Let the internal MMR pick the matches, inside or outside of the league, keep the point system and everything, but just for the leaderboards, categorize it into these leagues so other people can see it.
^^^
Then it would be pointless to have different leagues.
Sweet , what is ETA? 2016
You mean like most other MMOs have? +1 sir good idea
Quake Con had 1v1s, not team play, in the beginning, and there were so many ladders for Quake 3 that I find that your claim of being on the best team in the world to be very dubious.
1v1 got its push start with Thresh Vs Entropy for the ferrari. From there Team Deathmatch 4v4 and 1v1 was pretty big from 1996 through til 2004ish.
1v1 is still going fairly strong but with the assortment of games out today the pool of players isnt like it was for sure.
If your point is that nobody cares about competitive GW2 I think you’ll find there are less people that care about Quake round’ these parts.
Ya I’ll have to disagree. The whole 300 hundred or so that watched the twitch stream is considerably lower than any Quake tournament that ever went on.
Gw2 is not and never will be a true E-sport. A game that relies on meta-builds and counter builds, will never be taken seriously in the gaming community.
Builds > than actual skill involved
Ya.. that’s all pretty irrelevant to my point. Let me reiterate, can I get a show of hands in this GW2 forum who wants to hear about Quake glory days?
Its cute you get kitten when another more competitive game is brought into the(HOORAY YOU GUYS ARE AWESOME) thread.
And i wouldnt mind hearing more Quake talk. It was a fantastic game centered around true skill.
Quake Con had 1v1s, not team play, in the beginning, and there were so many ladders for Quake 3 that I find that your claim of being on the best team in the world to be very dubious.
1v1 got its push start with Thresh Vs Entropy for the ferrari. From there Team Deathmatch 4v4 and 1v1 was pretty big from 1996 through til 2004ish.
1v1 is still going fairly strong but with the assortment of games out today the pool of players isnt like it was for sure.
If your point is that nobody cares about competitive GW2 I think you’ll find there are less people that care about Quake round’ these parts.
Ya I’ll have to disagree. The whole 300 hundred or so that watched the twitch stream is considerably lower than any Quake tournament that ever went on.
Gw2 is not and never will be a true E-sport. A game that relies on meta-builds and counter builds, will never be taken seriously in the gaming community.
Builds > than actual skill involved
Sebastian.
I dont know if the rank 1 players is a bot. I, however, think multiple people use the account. I have weird sleeping patterns, work various schedules…but, everytime i decide to log on, that player is ALWAYS on.
Its either one HUGE coincidence, that they have the exact same schedule as i do…or its being played by multiple players. At one point that player was 80 points ahead of 2nd place. And that was 2 days after reset. Seems suspicious to me.
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SoloQ is ruined because ANET has decided to listen to the select few they PAY to play in tournaments. They have decided to ignore the vast majority of the PVP community.
I see thread after thread of PVPers asking for Soloq back. I, however, have not seen any threads prior to this update asking for SoloQ to be removed.
Not sure what majority ANET is speaking about when they say, this change was asked for??
Another great game gone to kitten, because the Dev team thinks they know what will move the game forward. So sad.
I havnt played gw2 in over an hour. everytime i try to log in, it takes me back to my last PVP match. 1 other is stuck in the loop as well. We can leave match, but it brings us right back. Completely log off and it brings us right back. PLEEZ HELP
They have decided to cater to the casuals is what happened.
I guess the game was too challenging for the 5 yr olds so they had to dumb it down.
Bring your ele against my condi ranger. youre gonna be toast. stop playing hotjoin and thinking youre good. that is all.
Ahahahahahahahahahaha. Biggest load of crap I’ve heard from a Dev yet. Anytime a comment was made or evidence was shown of the opposite the Dev stated, he had a generic recant ready.
So, let me indulge and if im wrong tell me.
By what the Dev said of the MMr and the same ppl of the same skill level are matched up….do u mean i will only ever play the same people over and over and over, because god knows the randomness of pvp, W and L, and Anet only seems to ALLOW a select few to be in top 25 consistently. Or make it above 50% ish.
MMR to be accurate needs to take into account the individuals contributions to the team as well. Not just as a whole of Win, Loss.
This system of Anets is flawed beyond reason.
For instance. Im consistently in the top 2 scorers of a match. I know someone will say its not individual scores that matter. But actually it is. If im capping and getting conqueror and most kills a majority of the time( which go towards the teams total) I will never move up if the teams im in dont win.
Dumbest system ever.
Actually individual score is not an accurate way to measure ones performance in a team. As an example 1 players could bunker a point whole match or keep 3 players occupied. He might not kill anyone he might not even cap a point but he keeps multiple players on him all game. Allowing his team mates to cap other node but he will have the lowest score. In this example one could assume he carried his team but personal score would not reflect his performance.
Everything the dev has said makes sense, still bit of shame we cant see mmr. Getting 4v5, dcs, and afk is something all players deal with so you can look it as a statistical wash. The leaderboards aren’t as kittenome people think. Most of the players at the top end of the lb are meant to be there(those with couple hundreds of games under the belt). Generally a lot of the same players are always at the top.
There are other games that take a bunkers contribution into account. If hes the to keep it, then the points the team makes from him bunking could very easily be added to his individual contribution.
Anet appears to be comfy with being lazy and only allowing the W, L columns determine who is a (good) player.
And as far as the Dev stating if you play someone with a higher MMr and you win you’ll move up, that’s total BS as well.
On 2 different occasions I’ve been on an opposing team of a top 50 player, and have won. No one in my 5 man jumped up considerably.
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Ahahahahahahahahahaha. Biggest load of crap I’ve heard from a Dev yet. Anytime a comment was made or evidence was shown of the opposite the Dev stated, he had a generic recant ready.
So, let me indulge and if im wrong tell me.
By what the Dev said of the MMr and the same ppl of the same skill level are matched up….do u mean i will only ever play the same people over and over and over, because god knows the randomness of pvp, W and L, and Anet only seems to ALLOW a select few to be in top 25 consistently. Or make it above 50% ish.
MMR to be accurate needs to take into account the individuals contributions to the team as well. Not just as a whole of Win, Loss.
This system of Anets is flawed beyond reason.
For instance. Im consistently in the top 2 scorers of a match. I know someone will say its not individual scores that matter. But actually it is. If im capping and getting conqueror and most kills a majority of the time( which go towards the teams total) I will never move up if the teams im in dont win.
Dumbest system ever.
The GW1 system was designed for a completely different game with a completely different type of “average player” playing it.
This system we have now – both stat-wise and skill-wise is designed to be as “dummy proof” as possible so terribly bad people can still perform and don’t drop the game.
That’s the short answer.
Well that hasnt worked either. More and more people drop every day. Because it is soooo dumbed down.
There is no such thing as a game that appeals to everyone. By attempting to do so, you only make a mediocre game for everyone. Better to know your audience and appeal to them, as the first game did.
Never a truer statement. But, obviously they aren’t appealing to the masses, that’s apparent by the mass exodus and the crazy long queue times. Appealing to a select few “pro” players is going to be the games demise. Well, whats left of the community anyway.
The GW1 system was designed for a completely different game with a completely different type of “average player” playing it.
This system we have now – both stat-wise and skill-wise is designed to be as “dummy proof” as possible so terribly bad people can still perform and don’t drop the game.
That’s the short answer.
Well that hasnt worked either. More and more people drop every day. Because it is soooo dumbed down.
I would go so far as to say solo que IS the new hotjoin.
More and more and more do you find 3v5s and 4v5s. Only difference is in Hotjoin they will auto balance. In solo queue you are just plain kittened, and most of the time just get facerolled.
Team Que is just as bad. A majority of the time it is 2 ppl joining and then 2 others and maybe a solo in team que. I see no difference in that and solo que. The only time solo queue really makes a difference is when its a pre-made.
IMO Team queues should only be allowed if you have a 5 man premade, otherwise its identical to solo.
http://i.imgur.com/fLNc1Z4.jpg
Well there,s the SS i have been playing forever. My highest win % in solo que was 54%. The highest rank i achieved was 997. You can ask the admin on the site why I’m not there. I personally don’t care. I and my guildies know where I was. At one point. Now I don"t care about LB. If i feel like quitting a match Ill just sit out and take the loss. If there is no teamwork, I just sit out.
When MMR is instituted and rank actually means something besides a, W or L…I might care again.
Off to play my mesmer and face stomp with a few buttons.
G’day mate. Why would my mesmer be on LB, with only 10 games. As for my total account, mate. 1005 rated matches played and 500 wins, solo que. I hit top 1000 ages ago. I’m not 10 yrs old and need to justify my existence by being top player of my class.
Ranking in this game is a joke at any rate. You see some ppl on LB with 20 games played and they top 20 and 3 days later after a few losses they drop out of top 1000. If/when ANET gets off its lazy butt and institute MMR rank in this game will mean something.
I don’t claim to be the best. The point is mesmer is and always will be faceroll easy. So, if a mediocre player as myself can faceroll on a mesmer 20 minutes after rolling it, then thats all that needs to be said, mate.
Ezmode mesmers are EZ.
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Its just hilarious all the WK’s for mesmer. They are that easy to play, there are that ezmode. I don’t have a thing against them.
Just keep wondering why people say mesmer is tough to play, when clearly it is not.
If you think hiding behind clones and spamming a few skills until u shatter is skilled game play, then i feel sorry for you.
I won’t try to convince you of your delusions of grandeur in playing an ezmode class.
YOU ARE PRO, MES IS SOOOOOOOOOOOOO HIGH SKILL CAP TO PLAY.
There feel better???
But, keep pretending they tough to play. I’m sure you will convince yourself one day.
What is with all the QQ against mesmers??? Its not OP lol. Its one of the weaker classes and has been for some time, but more people complaining about mesmer than faceroll Cele ele. What’s happened to these forums…
Cmon Teef lets be real.
I heard Mesmers were tough to play. I rolled one a few days ago and played 10 arena matches. Of those 10 I lost 0. I was winning 1v1 and 2v1 as my 1st day on a mesmer. Hell, my 1st 20 minutes as one, I was facerolling.
It doesnt take a lot of skill to spam 1 on GS and then a 2/4 combo for 9k dmg, while dodging and making more clones. Then wham, shatter them. Hell most times after spamming 1 and then 2/4 combo the opponent is dead.
Mes is faceroll ez. So, i decided to roll an engie after that. 10 games once again, not knowing a thing. I lost 1.
Cmon turrets engies might actually be ezier than mesmers.
Only class i have found a high learning curve was an ele i rolled same day as the engie and mesmer.
I have only played ranger, thief and necro since beta. Mainly my ranger. But, of course i dont use LB. I use a/t and sw/d. I still get the qq saying im a trash meta bow ranger. I just lol.
But ya, i digress. Mes is faceroll easy
Well, you’re not the only one to feel this way. That’s why the PVP is going the way of the DooDoo bird. EXTINCT.
As i said in another thread, in solo queues its the same 75-100 names over and over.
Read again …….
They stopped it for a while , in order to consetrate their manpower and release the September 2014 Feature Pack ….https://www.guildwars2.com/en/the-game/releases/feature-packs/
Again take the cookie :P
Yup you are correct i read it wrong.
I like peanut butter and jellybean cookies please.
Now, I know Im not the first to turn to the forums to cry about this, but over the course of my PvPing (especially in hotjoin), when the players on one team faceroll the players on the other, the same players end up on that same team the next match, resulting in another steamrolling. This is INSANELY annoying. I believe that teams should be auto-scrambled after every match, instead of players choosing their team. One of the reasons new players try PvP and never do it again is because they are experiencing this and get bad first impressions. Also, why are rank 50 players getting put up against rank 1s? I know its hotjoin, but still…
As you will learn in time. Rank in this game doesn’t mean a thing or have anything to do with skill level. It merely shows you have stayed in the game long enough to get that rank.
Oddly enough as people rank you would think they would pick up some skill. But, with the mentality in this game of zerg, zerg, zerg…a good percentage of people only learn how to spam a few skills, regardless of rank.
Now all these ppl have yet to provide the post where they, as you said, “say it blatantly”. I’m patient though. Ill keep waiting.
https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/announcing-the-september-2014-feature-pack/
‘’For those of you dying to know what the future holds: Living World Season 2 will be going on break for a while as we count down to the arrival of the September 2014 Feature Pack’’
Have a cookie :P
The break was because of the WvW tourny and then Halloween. That happens every year and i expected that. Still not the post where they BLATANTLY say no more 2 weeks new stuff.
Everyone keeps saying they made a thread to that fact, IM STILL WAITING.
Mesmer takes skill to be played efficiently. Please, do not nerf mesmers.
LMAO, no they dont.
I rolled one today out of curiosity. I played 8 Spvp and 2 Tpvp and facerolled everything i encountered. I barely knew what i was doing. I spammed 1 from greatsword and when cds was up 2,4 combo. And, of course my clones.
The argument can be used I went up against poor players, not 10 wins in a row. And won every solo fight, except against thief.
Mesmer are ezmode gimmick classes.
When you see S Y C L O N E coming your way, u better run because ill autoattck u to death.
So, when GW2 came out and ANET said new content every 2 weeks, (which they’ve lied about) did they mean new content as in new stuff, in the TRADER to BUY every 2 weeks.
Because we haven’t had any NEW content in over 2 months.
Where do i submit my refund????
They blatantly stated that the two week content schedule would not be constant, but interrupted by festivals and development breaks. Not their fault you don’t read past the first line on any announcement.
Granted I MAY have missed that. But, there is absolutely no excuse to use recycled events like Halloween and X-mas with the size of the Dev team. That is pure and simple laziness.
Now all these ppl have yet to provide the post where they, as you said, “say it blatantly”. I’m patient though. Ill keep waiting.
Being FREE is not an excuse for poor quality..
I certainly find s2 to be more enjoyable than s1 overall, but that’s largely due to it being not as temporary.
I think in terms of playable content, we probably have more of it than most MMOs so far into its lifetime, largely due to everything being still relevant at every level. So I don’t think its content that’s lacking at the moment.
We we sorely lack is character development. Cosmetic progression is nice but it really can only carry you so far, because once you got that perfect outfit, it’s basically over. We can’t exactly just switch our looks on the fly, so there’s really no point collecting skins which you won’t ever use.
We really need more ways to progress our character. More skills, more progression systems, more unlockable traits, things that make you feel like your character is growing.
I’m S Y P H A R and i approve this message!!!!
The content thus far in s2 has been underwhelming. I’m still waiting for this quality thing all the fanbois and white knights keep bringing up.
pssst look up one post…ull see i pretty much said that after reading the posted link above my post. but ty once again
lol ya…..thanks though for the link..ive been playing since the 1st beta….kitten it
Well then you sir would be wrong. The collectors edition at launch was sold out. That was $149.99 the digital deluxe was $80.
So, with the game being so stagnant and dead, i feel very confident people would dish out the money for a new xpac. Anyone spending $100 in the trader is crazy, that could be blown on useless consumables in less than a month or 2. When a new xpac would be forever.
Actually the only time they advertised the whole new content every two weeks was during the time when there was new content every two weeks. So not really anything lied about there.
They are most likely also going back to the two week release schedule starting on Tuesday when S2 returns.
We also did have new content (depending on who you ask) less than two weeks ago with the added stuff to the Halloween festivities.
If you do want a refund you will have to contact support. Keep in mind that a refund will only be considered if you bought the game directly from them and within 6 months from now.
Nor have they made any new adverts recanting their original claims.
C’mon a hardcore GW2 fan would not call this Halloween event NEW content. Yes S2 is starting soon, but it only has 5 episodes left. That is 10 weeks. Some where in there will be the X-mas event….hey which is old recycled crap from last year as well.
As dead as this game has become {evidenced by mega-servers and last month they offered free weekends to play …..TWICE} i would gladly pay $100 for a new X-pac comparable to the Day 1 map.
Hell, i would pay $100 bucks now to get the OLD GW2 back. They have severely watered the game down for filthy casuals.
I hope you get your refund. Actually, no. I hope you don’t so you just get fed up and leave for once. Then we don’t have to deal with this kind of attitude.
Your measly $100 with all your demands is lower than what a lot people blow on a given week for new skins. Get over yourself.
A small minority spends that kind of money on skins.
Now if they had 1 Million or more ppl (like at launch) pay the $100 for a new xpac. That would far exceed these measly few that spend stupid money to look pretty.
They need to tone down on the marketing, if the lag has to do with anything, its that massive influx of people playing PvP and crashing there servers. They should send the PvP developers to work on hyping up PvE and WvW stuff instead because theres too much hype for PvP and too many people playing games that they didn’t anticipate which clogs up server.
I mean, theres tournament going on, pvp buffs, what other reason is there for the servers to get clogged?
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, really??? there arent enough PVPers left in the game to cause any lag.
But, PVP would be on a different server from the PVe crap or even WVW.
I suggest you people invest in better comps. I have never lagged in this game, my fps has not dropped below 130 and I have never been kicked.
Nor have they made any new adverts recanting their original claims.
C’mon a hardcore GW2 fan would not call this Halloween event NEW content. Yes S2 is starting soon, but it only has 5 episodes left. That is 10 weeks. Some where in there will be the X-mas event….hey which is old recycled crap from last year as well.
As dead as this game has become {evidenced by mega-servers and last month they offered free weekends to play …..TWICE} i would gladly pay $100 for a new X-pac comparable to the Day 1 map.
Hell, i would pay $100 bucks now to get the OLD GW2 back. They have severely watered the game down for filthy casuals.
Oh, so an advert is true until there is a new advert that contradicts it?
I suppose I should sue every single company in the world then seeing as I have yet to see a single company that have had a specific thing forever after it was first advertised.I don’t think anyone on these forums would deny that I am a hardcore GW2 fan. Nor have I called the Halloween event new content. But according to quite a few people new items and rewards would be considered content, and as such there have been new content during this Halloween festival.
And after S2 finale we will most likely have S3 and so on. Fact remains that they release new content more often than the vast majority of other games in the genre.
The game is far from dead. Adding mega-servers simply made it easier to find people in all maps, due to the fact that some maps were usually quite empty, which is rather logical for a game with the high amount of maps and such available.
Free weekends is not a sign that the game is dying. Or are you suggesting that games that have constant two week trials are dying as well?
Lmao, adding megaservers made it easier to find people on all maps, because those servers were dying. If the servers were populated and doing well (as at launch) you would have no worries finding people on all maps.
and once again…LOL…that is exactly when you know a game is dying, when they offer free trials. The reasoning behind a free trial is to entice someone and hopefully they will open their wallet. If the game was a huge success they wouldnt be begging for new players. By begging i mean offering free weekends.
The time between s2 and s3 will probably be 4-5 months as it was from s1 to s2.
I have never seen a post on these forums from the ANET staff stating they were getting away from the original business model of new content bi-weekly.
Actually the only time they advertised the whole new content every two weeks was during the time when there was new content every two weeks. So not really anything lied about there.
They are most likely also going back to the two week release schedule starting on Tuesday when S2 returns.
We also did have new content (depending on who you ask) less than two weeks ago with the added stuff to the Halloween festivities.
If you do want a refund you will have to contact support. Keep in mind that a refund will only be considered if you bought the game directly from them and within 6 months from now.
Nor have they made any new adverts recanting their original claims.
C’mon a hardcore GW2 fan would not call this Halloween event NEW content. Yes S2 is starting soon, but it only has 5 episodes left. That is 10 weeks. Some where in there will be the X-mas event….hey which is old recycled crap from last year as well.
As dead as this game has become {evidenced by mega-servers and last month they offered free weekends to play …..TWICE} i would gladly pay $100 for a new X-pac comparable to the Day 1 map.
Hell, i would pay $100 bucks now to get the OLD GW2 back. They have severely watered the game down for filthy casuals.
Forum PVP is more active than the ingame PVP. Im going to PVP here more often.