Guild Wars 2

I should clarify:

The insinuation is that there will likely be other holiday events and similar which would be free or vastly easier in those mmo. More often than every 6 months. You fully enjoy the game with that fee (I prefer guild wars 2 obviously), but in the scope of the game it is enjoyed. However, to enjoy the events and everything “fully” as in get even the basic perks of the seasons… you have to shell out more than that fee. I am not defending fees so much as pointing out that something is completely imbalanced.
In other words, guild wars 2 might as well be a sub game or worse monetarily or time wise for people who want to experience the entirety of the content. People can of course miss the content and not pay a penny, but the game developer was quoted as saying that people do not enjoy grinds and they did not want it in their game. A holiday event seems hardly the place to encourage us to grind or put hefty sums of $ into the system. I feel they should be focusing on building the community, rather. Word of mouth sales are determined by trust, and if we are to compete with the other mmo, we need to understand how things are working, really. In order for trust to exist, things like these random chance skins (which are clearly better than most of the other skins to encourage you to want them) need to be minimized. Ask yourselves one moment, why wasn’t necro allowed other staff scythe skins by default in the game? This question perplexed me.. then it hit me when this event came out.

Let me direct your attention to many real world retailers which make a majority of their sales during the holiday seasons… Its possible to bank on it if you want money. Holiday sales are huge. I am not saying they are greedy, I am saying its a decision that comes off very badly to the player base when they could be focusing on other things than micro transactions. First establish player base, content, trust.. then do that sort of thing. At the very least they could humor us by allowing us to buy the skins directly off of the marketplace so we don’t “lose all bets” and let our wallets die from random number generating boxes.

The quests were very buggy at the time (apparently it has been patched finally, that was alot quicker than I am used to my storyline bugs being fixed). There were at least three different bugs that disallowed progression as well as portals which spat out endless monsters which botters have already exploited. This disrupts the economy and will cause further imbalance.

55 Gold is too much for most players to make easily and the alternative (black lion chests) can sometimes end up setting people back the gold equivalent of 30-40 dollars. It just doesn’t seem free or cheap.

I am in Arah and have tried farming various things for gold and thats still way too much money to be a viable halloween reward. I might not use the best farming tactics, but it doesn’t seem I do much worse than most people I speak to.

My further sympathy goes to lower level players who bought the game before Halloween in order to participate. It seems that a great deal of the content is simply not accessible to them (without heavy real world USD, 30-40 dollars is very close to the cost of a new game) unless they have the money skills of an investment banker.

I hope that clarifies.

Please read my post as I detail that the cost of the halloween items is roughly the equivalent of a six month subscription to another mmo.

The halloween stuff should be accessible… they could put them on the trading post if they had to. Alot of companies actually give their halloween stuff to the player.. in permanent version.. for just completing a quest. Fond memories of Final Fantasy 11 drift back, and that game was less than satisfying.

I wanted to enjoy this, alot.
You can carve pumpkins, you can eat candy, you can trick or treat on ghastly doors, you can have new jumping puzzles and the Mad King… So many things!
The world looks amazing.

It should have been perfect. It felt like it would be.

Then it happened, as I was grinding out (oops, did I use that word?) candy corn, I realized this isn’t fun. I was in denial because I wanted it to be wonderful. This is actually in some ways worse than no event at all.
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There are some interesting things, aesthetically. What will I be left with for this event though?

Barely anything at all.
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The weapon skins:

They are on a four hour time limit and cost an unholy amount of candy corn for a temporary item.

The ones from the chest apparently have a horrible chance of success, and even then you have to assume you probably won’t get the one you are trying to get, if you get any weapon or armor skin at all.

Someone posted that they had used 20 black lion chests and had no halloween item drop.

LETS DO SOME MATH -20 black lion chests keys (assuming you have enough chests) would cost you about 30 dollars USD.

Now, lets assume you want a few of the halloween costumes.. that adds another 20-30 dollars.

Most other mmo have much easier to get items with reliable quest ways of obtaining them for these holiday events. They also might have a monthly fee (or not).
However, I read somewhere that six month subs to some of them might be in the area of 60-80 dollars. However, the celebration is a celebration, not a gambling house.

If I total up the 30 + 30 and leave room for other micro transactions which are likely to happen during this event.. we edge very close to that six month subscription.

Am I being suckered? Sure, I pay 60 dollars and have no subscription fee, but all the good content costs just as much as a sub fee and possibly worse while the sub fee practically guarantees that the company … well..

A sub fee guarantees that the company has to make its customers happy after they buy the game.

There, I said it.

You might say its optional to have those weapon skins. Yes, it is.. but they are leaps and bounds ahead of even legendary content. A necromancer with a scythe? A chainsaw sword? Of course we will want it.

Perhaps we can buy it through the trading post? However… its 55 gold on the trading post. To be honest, most players aren’t online long enough or lucky enough to get such things easily.. and by the time they get that much gold, the price will go higher.

In other words, its unreachable for me and others like me. I understand when a legendary weapon requires work that it should be expensive. However, an item that is meant to be a festival item should be accessible.

Ok, I tried to overlook that kind of stuff though, I’m reasonable. I’m a reasoning, understanding person. Nearly every halloween quest is broken. I can’t get the ghost girl to spawn and noone else in Lions Arch can either. We have every other book and we can’t get the quest reward.
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I still want to enjoy this but I find it impossible. Can anyone tell me how I am supposed to find this fun and not nerve wrecking or upsetting when I see that warrior who got lucky on his first black lion chest with a great chainsword or the necro with a scythe? In a month, I will have no chance at these items and frankly they outclass any legendary in my opinion. Pure luck determines whether we get the exact weapons we want at all? What if we didn’t have much time to play during these events?

Halloween is my favorite holiday but this isn’t enjoyable for me.. Its grueling.
You get a sickening feeling when you realize that something is out of your reach simply because you aren’t lucky and the devs want to make a quick buck after launch instead of building the community by being all inclusive. Its like Trick R Treating in a small town where noone celebrates it. No candy, no hope. Empty handed.

Its not inclusive, if there was a difficult but direct approach to this (getting permanent items) that didn’t cost heaps more than other mmo (WoW) altogether, that would be “making us work for it”.

A random number generation is not friendly. A black lion chest isn’t a reward, it is a cold emotionless casino that is content to say to someones celebratory joy: Nope, not for you, you don’t get to have fun. Maybe someone else will. No candy for you kid, try the next door for 20 $ USD.

Black Lion chest for limited time content celebration such as this.. is in my opinion inherently, vehemently:
Wrong.

Thanks very much for the response! I feel alot safer then, I guess, I’d really rather help people out and run around questing with people than be afraid of any interpersonal interaction.. haha. I’ll keep roaming around and helping. Have a great day!

Excuse me CC Eva, (please read)

I have an important question! I apologize if its been answered before. It has to do with the content gold sellers email us sometimes. It hasn’t been happening for a while though I guess.

I stopped getting as many gold seller spam as I used to but for a while I was getting spam with 1 copper in the mail to stop it from being deleted.
I didn’t know any other way to delete the mail except to accept the 1 copper then delete the email…

This won’t flag peoples accounts if they get emails like this and accept the copper so they can delete the mail? I am afraid of having the email fill up my email box but also wanted them deleted right away (the less interaction with such types is the better imo).

Anyway, if theres any special way to delete the email without accepting their ill-obtained copper, please tell me.
I read alot of posts here about people getting flagged who didn’t do anything ankittenhinking it might be related to email stuff. I send game items to friends through the mail system because I told them I was giving it in skype so I type in random characters when giving them stuff like a new upgraded staff, etc.. we link it in party to see if it is an upgrade. Anyway, I don’t have enough time to type a full response during battle so I just mash keyboard buttons and give the item.

This kind of stuff along with gold sellers emailing us won’t get us wrongfully flagged right? Sorry if I’m paranoid, I just spent alot of time on this game and am enjoying it.
Thanks for your time!

I want this intensely but it will take forever to afford.

Rata Sum would be the main town I’d go to if they did this change. Its just organized so perfectly.

I am speaking about the gold sink where players who don’t know they can go into the mists (very few, but they exist) simply teleport to the main towns rather than Lions Arch. It happens.. Arena Net probably considers it more necessary than it actually is.

If you are a warrior (or engineer with their jump skill), you can use hammer adrenaline attack to propel you to some of the jumps. This will not work on all of them but you can activate the signet to gain adrenaline then target the area and hop across this way.

Best regards,

Yes, this would be the intelligent approach to the situation… I agree. The mists portal thing is used alot for this purpose and it does cause server load as well as ineffective gameplay mechanics.

Its not gonna happen though. If they did do this.. they’d be losing a gold sink which they desperately seem to need.

Quit trying to force other people to do what you want them to by lobbying to get a mechanic removed, allow people to live and let live… to each their own. Why remove a functionality you don’t like? Do you feel important enough to limit other peoples freedom on a whim? You aren’t. I apologize.

Its this kind of spoiled self centered thinking that is the reason I avoid forums. I hate to know it exists. Why do people never want MORE functionality, rather than remove someone elses? Remove magic find, remove easier dungeons.. blah blah blah. Why not just add more content? Is this a disease?

You feel entitled to impose your will on others, go impose it on yourself. Do what you want to do. Solo the game or play with friends for dungeons or ask people if they have magic find.

If I want to sacrifice a stat for magic find so I can afford the high level gear I use to take your hits and revive you, I am going to. I can do just fine with magic find gear and am better than most. You can do nothing about my using it, and that shouldn’t bother you. If it does, don’t group with me. The fact that I was able to afford vastly better gear due to the magic find doesn’t exactly put me at a disadvantage. If I have full exotics, its a reasonable assumption that I will stat the gear (why have magic find if you have the gear you need). If I used magic find, I probably have better overall stats due to the fact I was able to afford exotics. It balances out people.

Personal space, learn it before trying to lobby to get a mechanic other people are using and is completely optional removed.

You can use the consumable buff and statted gear or none if you want.

What is up with the self important egotistical blather I always see where people try to enforce their view on others? Magic find users and non magic find users can co-exist.
If you are going to group with people, just ask them if they are using it if it bothers you so much. Other people shouldn’t pay in their personal freedom for your pet peeve.

If you have a limiting pet peeve, deal with it alone.

Lobby for MORE options, not less. No reason to limit freedom except for jealousy/unreasonable pet peeves.

Balancing… Consider a person loses an arm.
Ok, heres your solution to their plight: Lop off the other.

The solution that adds more functionality to balance: Give them a mechanical one.

Its roughly the same style of thinking.

Edit: Furthermore, most of us have two sets of gear because we were able to plan ahead and look into the elements of the game and predict the necessity. Its unlikely any informed player is farming dungeons for gold alone. Its not lucrative. There are much better ways to get gold. We shouldn’t be punished for being tactical.

Also, in regard to the magic find users leeching off other players:
Guess how I use my exotic gear? I tend to get one of the highest number of revives of other players. Guess how many times people revive me? Alot less usually. It might be because I have a higher defense stat and tend to be the type to plan ahead. I empower groups, I try my best to keep people alive. Alot of the statted gear players have egos so massive they can have a downed player right beneath them but instead try to solo bosses causing party wipes. Its simply a farce to say that all magic find players leech off of groups. Guess what I do with some of the nice gear that drops if its not for my profession? I offer it to other people. I help guild mates and others alike.

Stats matter very little in this game though in the first place, to be honest. If you use the proper tactics, it can cause entire situations to shift direction.

I forgot to mention that there is a bug in spekks lab that is a legitimate bug that might need fixing that involves occasionally either:

A. teleporting the player forward to the next tile.

or more likely…

B. teleporting the player to the previous tile at this one point in the puzzle each time you step forward to the next one. This ends in an unavoidable lava bath if you are unfortunate enough to get the bug (you can just hop out of it with a dodge and movement skill but its still a bug). It doesn’t seem to happen to every character but I have seen it in videos.

It might have been server lag but it happens consistently to me whether I am far ahead of the puzzle or lagging behind.. on this one set of tiles. Anyway, its possible to get past it so its not that bad but I suppose its worth reporting because I assume alot of people will be having a more difficult time with it.

I was able to complete this jumping puzzle with no problem my first time but the bug was pretty obvious. Of course, I totally tried dodging into the big lasers but the jumping part I nailed! Hah… Lasers hurt even if you dodge through them, who would have known… ok maybe its science.

The way I see it is this… asuran have a natural propensity for magic.

I feel that the way they are able to swing that greatsword around is that the natural magic within them allows them to use magical benefits to strength even if they turned their back to it. Thats how I rationalize it.. you can’t explain magic. You also can’t explain how they do all the flips without some form of natural inner magic.

I see them as using a darker/latent form of their magic as warrior (closed fist) and a more expressive/free form as guardian (open palm). The difference between egoism and altruism, but both attuned for a heroic purpose.

Armor wise, the heavy cultural armor looks nice and the cash shop (remember, you can get gems with gold) heavy armor looks decent (the helm is debatable but in all black you look like a xenomorph nearly).
I personally tinted it celestial white and white gold to get a corrupted white knight look (also applicable to guardian) and am using the (incredibly cheap but awesome looking) godskull slayer skin (go buy this now on marketplace, seriously) with it. I’m straight out of monster hunter if monster hunter used tiny gremlins as player characters.

I pretend my asuran used to be a guardian but made friends with a weapon master who was actually inquest and learned darker forms of magic (becoming warrior) and to suppress the magic but didn’t go full evil. The inquest killed the other students of the “school” and so the character is on an antihero quest to avenge their school.

I just like to have a backstory for things because I’m strange.

Skill wise, it is a bit awkward to see the Asuran warrior go flying using the adrenaline move like Thor leaving a huge crater, but I believe it works out well for jumping puzzles and if yoda can flip around and chop space ships in half, so can us magic wielding Asura.
Asuran ranger is also fun, but I guess you already have a ranger. The movement seems very natural (one hand sword makes alot of sense and looks nimble) and the animations and size of the pets seems to just work perfectly with Asura.

That being said, I’m totes jelly of the guardian staff dance.

I’ve never wanted to join an evil group so badly since the storm troopers. Inquest for the win! I even made an rp outfit.

They’re not bad, they’re just drawn that way. ^_~

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Personally, I really like that the Asura have male armours. I get sick of playing every game, with few exceptions, where because I want to play a female character I’ll get forced to wear armour that’s skimpy to the point of impossibility. Even some armour sets in GW2 suffers from it, but playing an Asura has given a real breath of fresh air. It just feels so much fairer – I don’t have to put up with the game constantly reminding me that a character being female means it’s a sex object to oogle at.

That being said, I wouldn’t be against giving people the choice of having more girly-looking gear. In an ideal world, I’d have all the female armour available for male characters and all the male armour available for female characters, which would at least double the number of armours available. And it would be true equality between the genders, too. Why shouldn’t a woman be allowed to be clad from head to toe? Why shouldn’t a man be allowed to run around in a miniskirt? Like I said, GW2 is definitely better than most for making nice looking gear for both genders, but there’s still a few areas where it could be worked on.

Also, as for the Asura females showing their chests – chests aren’t bad. We’ve just all been conditioned to view them as being unacceptable… at least, when it’s a woman. Asura don’t have that distinction, so there’s no reason for them to have become similarly conditioned. And just personally, and not to sound arrogant but I find the notion of forcing them to cover their chests when it makes zero difference offencive; it’s kind of reinforcing that no matter how illogical it is, no matter how little difference it makes, society’s views must be adhered to. ‘Cause it’s a woman.

I’m in no way saying that I’d like all female characters to go topless; it’d bother me as much as the next player. But there’s little point in forcing our own gender biases onto a fictional species for which it makes absolutely no sense, and so serves only to reinforce messages we’re already getting drilled into our heads on a day to day basis in our normal lives.

So overall: more girly armours, yes! Armour free of gender requirements, yes! Switching out/changing armours to be more girly, hell no!

Clear, concise, perfect.

I totes agree with this entire post. Everyone happy!
Just because asurans don’t have fur or feathers doesn’t mean that its not ok. I think the way it is currently done is very tasteful but they should provide more options.

There you have it, the bug still exists and is effecting peoples characters, I suppose. Again, I appreciate my character being fixed but it seems to leave a bitter taste in my mouth that others with more complex storyline bugs have not had theirs fixed and that the storyline is still bugging up peoples characters.

To be clear, the quest skipping bugs seem to be fixed, but the storyline alteration bugs seem to be in full swing.

Simple fact is that terraria did it better. I’m not trying to sound mean or anything, I just wish ArenaNet would look at how terraria did it and consider a similar system because it is simply perfect in most ways.

It wouldn’t require breaking any current content and could be a lvl 60-80 unlock for each vanity slot or require a 3 gold or so manual in addition with the profession training manuals.

Its alot easier to give everyone their cake and let them eat it too if you stop thinking only about what benefits yourself and just try to come up with ways it would benefit everyone and create more variety in the game (I see alot of people in the same stuff, constantly).

Adding new classes tends to make balancing more difficult so it is unlikely that ANet will do it any time soon. New weapons and armors and skills are already a leap.

Note that there was an expansion for gw1 with eastern elements in it.
The tengu are an inherently eastern mythos.
Will they add kitsune hybrid race that isn’t gender locked to female like in most eastern mmo? (yeah, never understood how feline beast race is often male gender locked but fox race had plenty of male supporting lore in history but was gender locked female because they could easily turn a blind eye to their own legends).
They probably won’t add anything like that.

However.. its much more likely they will add daikatana and more samurai like armors for warrior if they do make an eastern expansion. The tengu city is sealed off and occupies a large spot on the map so it could easily be in an expansion. Even still, I don’t know if tengu have that sort of weaponry as I usually seem to see them with bows. New armor skins require less work than races and professions so they can add them more simply. The godskull slayer reminds me alot of monster hunter so I use it, if you want a less western looking (dual edged) sword. Its also incredibly cheap for an epic looking weapon skin.

However.. its much more likely they will add daikatana and more samurai like armors for warrior if they do make an eastern expansion. The tengu city is sealed off and occupies a large spot on the map so it could easily be in an expansion. Even still, I don’t know if tengu have that sort of weaponry as I usually seem to see them with bows. New armor skins require less work than races and professions so they can add them more simply. The godskull slayer reminds me alot of monster hunter so I use it, if you want a less western looking (dual edged) sword. Its also incredibly cheap for an epic looking weapon skin.They won’t release it while people are playing with their pandas though, haha.
They don’t want to be seen as riding WoW’s wave.

However.. its much more likely they will add daikatana and more samurai like armors for warrior if they do make an eastern expansion. The tengu city is sealed off and occupies a large spot on the map so it could easily be in an expansion. Even still, I don’t know if tengu have that sort of weaponry as I usually seem to see them with bows. New armor skins require less work than races and professions so they can add them more simply. The godskull slayer reminds me alot of monster hunter so I use it, if you want a less western looking (dual edged) sword. Its also incredibly cheap for an epic looking weapon skin.They won’t release it while people are playing with their pandas though, haha.
They don’t want to be seen as riding WoW’s wave.Why is part of this message showing twice… it isn’t doubled in preview and I tried fixing it.

I apologize… but I don’t think this should be unstickied yet.

I appreciate the fixing of my personal story very much, but there are alot of people who still have problems with their personal story because their bug wasn’t a simple skip.

Maybe there could at least be a statement on whether they can have hope of a fix or not?

I agree, noone I see uses the town clothing option. A feature that simply isn’t used does deserve a second thought. There are things they could do to make it more viable and fun. The way it was handled in terraria was perfect. You could put the town armor in the proper slot to gain the skills from it or in the visual slot to gain only the appearance and use the stats from your other armor. It simply made sense.

The tier 3 armor is indeed terrible stat wise especially considering its cost. A skin should not cost 20 gold and I would also prefer the armor simply had better stats of say.. the 1 gold exotics floating around everywhere. Its less of an affording it problem and more of a “thats just odd” problem.

You can go to town very easily by entering the mists in pvp and going to lions arch from there and then to any town you wanted. You can also get the hall of monuments crystal from a pirate in a lions arch cave which will take you to hall of monuments if you need to just quickly duck out of an area to afk or something.

I have to agree, although its difficult to properly solve it, larger characters than us asurans have alot more difficulty due to camera issues. That is, unless theres a charr butt in front of us obscuring our view of the rest of the vista, ehehe!

If they make your character go invisible when camera gets closer even more.. it will cause you to be incapable of knowing where your character is going and mess the jump up. If your character is totally visible, you can’t see where you are jumping.
Some of those tricks above might help, but its hard to target something when your character won’t let you see where you are targeting due to a camera bug from being a larger character. I don’t have this problem as an asura, but I see it in alot of videos and hear people complain about it. There are even puzzles that my camera spazzes out on.. and I’m asuran.

Sometimes hiding the interface can help. If you bind it to a key that might allow you to have a bit more peripheral vision and have a 1% easier time of it. I really don’t play as anything except asuran so I can’t offer much advice, sorry.

I just wanted to point out a few tricks I’ve learned that make most jumping puzzles incredibly easy. The engineer gets a jump attack that can be targeted. Other than that I want to cover warrior.

Warrior can do most jumping puzzles very easily if you are having difficulty.

The methods are as follows:

To counter anything that tries to push you off such as gusts of air, you may use any stability move to get across.

To counter any condition damage such as frost, use the condition damage removal skill.

Single hand sword has a leap that can get you to places you are simply not meant to be able to get so easily to sometimes. Some other professions have similar skills I am assuming.

If you need to get across an area quickly, the warhorn has a swiftness skill as does the banner. The warhorn + sword provides excellent mobility with hammer as your secondary for the adrenaline leap.

Here is the final and most useful one.. Although your hammer targeted leap skill requires adrenaline, you may use it out of combat even without the elite skill. If you activate the signet of fury or berserkers stance, you can easily get enough adrenaline to use the targeted adrenaline leap and hop several places ahead with complete accuracy.

This skill allows you to pop over to areas in a method similar to the engineers leap, although it has an 8 or so second cool-down (I forgot).

If you find yourself having any sort of difficulty with any puzzle which allows you to take a moment to get across, these methods should be able to get you to where you need to be. Although you may not get there as fast, you are more certain to get there at all.

I quite like the difficulty of the jumping puzzles as is. I avoid using such skills on them if possible. With workarounds such as these, it becomes possible for people who enjoy the difficulty to enjoy it. People who have trouble may use these workarounds.

I do not consider them exploits due to them being part of the game code and being mere alternative means to the end.

I hope this shared knowledge proves fruitful if you have difficulty in the future.

Other professions also have certain moves such as warriors. I find it unfair that the ranger greatsword dash pushes the character downward and would like to see it made so that the ranger dash allows similar jumps. The ranger single sword dash will send you backwards but if there is a wall you can back up against you can sometimes use it to hop across certain areas.

When in doubt, just jump and learn the flow of the puzzle. I don’t think they are meant to require skills and I have been able to complete them without them so far.

This sort of thing is done in secondlife to give them a moment of rest and reduce memory leaks and other problems. It could have helped alot of people get skill points and such. I have to say… restarting servers is usually pretty standard.
Supposedly, they fixed the skill point bugs though.

The bug with my characters storyline having been skipped does seem to be fixed.
Thank you!
However, there is now a problem with monthly achievements displaying ??? and this makes me believe there could be alot of bugs with this patch. Lets hope we don’t have to roll back!

This is happening to me as well.

I understand that the ability to choose not to accept progress is available… however…
When it skipped my storyline from the mission with Destinys Edge arguing in Lions Arch, it gave me no prompt to receive a reward or accept progress. The instance just switched to allow us to go back to town, we left the instance, they got the email and rewards and I didn’t. I saw my quest line had been set to 48.
Anyway, I don’t know if that is helpful or not to know but it might assist the devs in looking into the programming logic if more problems happen soon.

Thank you for the update! I look forward to being able to play with my guardian again (and my love being able to play with their necromancer).

Perhaps eventually there could be a storyline reset of sorts built into the base game that would simply allow people to just pay a price to reset their storyline much like they are able to reset the traits. The game isn’t grindy at all so the experience and rewards wouldn’t really make a huge difference for people who were able to complete the storyline (seeing as how they need to be high level to complete it in the first place). It would simply give them the ability to do a New Game Plus + type thing and allow them to experience things from different perspectives without having to make an otherwise identical character with only slight changes to their storyline.

It would provide content for everyone if coded correctly, and allow people with bugged steps a means to fixing their storyline.

Anyway, just a thought on one method to fixing that kind of error that could be attempted in the future. Much like Saints Row 3, I tend to love Guild Wars 2’s storyline and of course the voice actors and writing. It is a shame to only be able to do the stories in a one off… SR3 had a mod eventually accomplish this. Perhaps ArenaNet could add this to a patch? I’d be fairly certain everyone would love it.

One thing I would really like to know though is… If two people have the same exact storyline and party to complete them, will they still get bugs? Have those bugs (either skipping or changing story incorrectly) been fixed? We would love to complete our storylines together but have paused doing storylines until this is without a doubt fixed.

Saints row 2/3 had the best solution to this. Don’t pick a default armor and just let them wear any skin they want on either side. Will it look hilarious and awkward? You bet. It gives the option into the hands of the player and lets us do what we want rather than having some moral value dictated.. “oh he can’t have wings” “oh she can’t wear a coat that covers her chest”.
Let us decide. Hilarity might even ensue.

Anyhoo, it kind of balances out by having an awesome storyline, awesome cultural armors, awesome animations… awesome flips… awesome ability to do jumping puzzles because you don’t block your camera (though a char/norn butt might be blocking it anyway if its populated). Awesome home city.. awesome inventions and lore… awesome… ok I give up now. There are just too many reasons to be asura. Only thing is that the ninja/knight helms look somewhat hilarious like a big tin can on a big head and tiny body.. but is that a bad thing?

goes off to subtitle cutscenes with dialogue such as “my head is too big for my body” and “I can’t reach the cookie jar, charr can halp haz cookies?”

Every other mmo I had dev tools for or saw gm’s use dev tools in or saw servers for had the tool built in to their servers so that gm could log in and edit peoples characters. They’ve already very obviously edited peoples characters before to fix certain bugs.

Either the tools to fix this issue DO exist (so how’d yah plan to edit or monitor those exploiters?) or there is a pathetic and inadequate foundation in the server gm code that makes old 2d zelda style “make your own mmo” engines look fancy.

If the tools don’t exist, as they say… all those people who exploited could have gotten away with keeping all their bugged stuff.
If the tools do exist, why say they don’t?

I can’t see the logic in this at all.. I just fail to see how any of this makes sense. I fail to see why people haven’t had their characters fixed. I fail to see how all the 100% completion bugs haven’t been fixed for like half the zones.

I hope they are just busy working on mad king thorn.. that would totally make it up if I had a pumpkin head.

We’re not violent! I hug people all the time! With violence!

Ranger can also use two handed sword and the animations are very mobile and interesting. They don’t use heavy armor though.

A barber and alot more hairstyles, some aesthetics needed to be purchasable perhaps in order to give.. Anet incentive to make more, would be likely.

I absolutely love the fact my ears perk when I feel any emotion, its akin to how a dogs hairs stand up on end when in combat.

Tbh I think the animators did a brilliant job on every single asuran emote or movement. I feel they really enjoyed making it.

Hyena – Zaapiel
Owl – Diamond Eyes (1000 points if gets the reference)
Raven – Valoiel or Indrid Cold
Eagle – Freedomwind or Team Amurica
Any creepy pet – Valtiel
Fernhound – Bwerdia or Skathe

I also use some other names which are more silly:

Raven: Wesc Raven
Pig – Babe Newell (yeah.. worst part is I’m a fan)
Boar – John Porkman (sorry mr. goodman)
Any Drake – Godzillamotherinlaw
Murellow – Crushy Mc Brainfest
bear – Beary White (seen this around a bit XD)
Any spider – Mister Mac Poison

Honestly the text file I’m compiling with all of them is getting kind of long, haha.

Thank you for the update, we appreciate it.

How recently did this happen, SWSyn? If it happened today then the bugs might not be fixed.

I believe by their patch notes they believe they have fixed these bugs. If I recall, this was fixed before according to patch notes so if we continue to see people come here we’ll know. At the very least, its possible there will be fewer people getting bugged.. I would have preferred it if they mentioned the problem in more detail in the notes so they would make a ticket and post here. I’m not sure everyone knows the mission names who has this bug and because alot of mmo have missing sections of storyline midgame they might think the 18 level skip is natural.

Lets hope this closes the floodgates on this bug and keeps more people from getting it, I think they will be more likely to start fixing the players who have bugged storylines once more players will not get the bug.

Heres hoping!

I hated it at first but I got used to it and I kind of like it now. At the same time though, there should be more options for boots that cover the entirety of toes.

Yeah, fast zombies are kinda popular lately but I honestly kind of prefer slow ones for fantasy games like this unless it looks like its supposed to be fast.

I don’t seem to have any problem with risen but at the same time the animation does look kind of comical. Maybe they could adjust the animation too..

They could just increase its other stats to make up for it but at the same time it makes kiting a bit unfair.. Either way aesthetically I prefer slow zombies in rpg as well for the most part just so theres variety.

Either way its rather funny if you look at them run so I’m not sure they will fix it, too busy laughing.

Ah, sorry. Yeah thats an entirely different problem.. It is certainly possible to take advantage of the pricing and how people don’t know what things cost at this stage. As time goes on I guess we should hope the economy will have the built in defense against this thing of people just getting to understand the prices but yeah thanks for bringing it up.

I am terribly sorry, but the irony of the name… I wonder how many people will be paying attention to how strong the legs are at that point.

It is probably an easy fix, someone likely forgot to toggle something in the mesh definition.

Essentially, people are selling to the trading post this way in order to avoid having to walk back to the bank or a merchant… they free up their inventory faster and get less profit out of it. In essence, its the price of laziness… and 1 copper is fairly cheap to lose when higher level players have to spend like 1 silver or more on waypoints.

Is it right? Not sure… but I think that explains why people sell to the TP how they do partially.

I also believe some people might not consider that they can sell to heart merchants, which might explain some of it as well.

Edit: Sorry, misunderstood what you were saying. This doesn’t explain that particular problem.

I also would love to believe that a fix is underway but the indicator of having the ticket closed just does not seem to suggest it.

When a support ticket is closed, it essentially goes out of existence on their end until you open it back up. In other words, they don’t have the time to check closed support tickets because they are more or less considered resolved. What was the resolution?

Furthermore, if I had not had the curiosity to check the support portal, I would have not known it had been closed recently. This is because unlike most support portals, theirs does not seem to give you an email entailing that “the support ticket you opened has been closed”. It wasn’t closed on their previous response, it was closed some time after that response (a response that was more or less generic, and no it wasn’t the beginning generic response that asks for a reply, we had gotten past that point).

This leads me to believe that many people who issued support tickets about this might have their issue closed as well, and should log in and open them because the issue has not been fixed. They have no way of knowing an issue still exists if it is closed, and thus no way to help you with your character because you basically do not exist on the list of things to do unless that support ticket is open. This is how Linden Labs operates, and I am -very- familiar with the process.

I haven’t been using my character or leveling it because of fear that the fix will be an optional rollback on the characters which are effected. If thats the case, I’d lose more of my time.
I have not bought gems or done dungeon runs on that character because I have no clue whether their solution might be to delete it because it is bugged and thus could corrupt the system further.

We have been waiting for the greater part of a month for this to be fixed, and I believe this issue should be recognized and discussed in one of the official bug/state of the game/patch posts on their end. That way people who have the bug but might not have necessarily checked the forums and understood how to get help properly will know to post in this thread and post a support ticket. I am sure this thread is not the extent of the people effected because I find it relatively easy to find people who have this problem elsewhere.

Please read:

This thread is one of the longest threads on the forum and is also mostly individual people who are providing data and asking for help. It is not a small issue.

I think we need to be more vocal. Sorry. Either that or they need to give us an update. There is really no number to call at all?

I opened up a support ticket when this happened, posted on the forums, read every bug fix update… Nothing has been done so far to fix my character.

The exploits I hear about pertaining to people who have this bug, likewise, have not been fixed as far as I know. You’d think they’d at least fix our characters since there are ways to exploit the situation that some players could try. Why hasn’t this been fixed?

Today I logged into the support website and my issue had been closed. Closed.

However, I logged onto my character and the issue persists.

I really, really hope that doesn’t mean they are ignoring us, but closing an issue which I opened without fixing the issue is a slap in my face and a slap in the face of other people here.

I have sent people here to post and give Anet data, I have sent people to the support ticket thing.. I have tried to make sure they had plenty of data and that plenty of people get their characters fixed.

This is one of the longest bug fix threads and the issue that causes it is still not fixed and neither are the characters of people who have been waiting weeks.
Weeks to get a fix while people who took advantage of exploits were prioritized to be unbanned for exploiting.

Further response from the ANet team is warranted! Maybe they aren’t reading this thread.. might be a good idea to make others. I really don’t know at this point.
I hate to think that we might be being swept under the rug.

I cannot believe that my support issue was CLOSED without a fix.
It was, though.
Has anyone else heard back from the support team about this? Has anyone else had their support issue closed without any fix or compensation?

I am guessing alot of other people will have their issue closed and ignored as well.. and thats just fundamentally wrong.

I agree. Grind is bad, better to progress to new content than do the same too many times. Novelty wears off.

Loving the inflated egos who probably felt like deities when winning at childrens card games in the past. Don’t bother using logic with neckbeards, game breaking bugs are simply more content to them and when they find exploits to get past certain bugs they will say its too easy. Just like how most people got past the gw1 ones.
They will argue with you for centuries against having any alternative to get the prestige gear because it makes them feel special. They won’t want repair costs fixed.. not because of any logical reason but because it makes them feel special. They will keep ways to overcome certain broken instances secret in their guild because it makes them feel special to know exploits. Thats the ulterior motive. Its very -special- to get a group of lvl 80’s on skype with dungeon gear together and spend hours and hours on end doing the same mission over and over and over and over while using predetermined stats traits and gear that everyone else will use because the beaten path is special to them.. “Complexity” is doing the same thing over and over because its proven effective to them.

If we get a great group going, get a fair bit into a dungeon, then encounter a bug.. our only option is to just zone out. Thats broken content. Its not a feature. Its not Dark Souls. It doesn’t make you look less pathetic if you are able to surpass it out of sheer luck or exploits.

In the meanwhile, we who understand the difference between actual complexity and inflated stats + bugged gameplay mechanics will hope the bugs such as falling through the floor, traps activating far away, and bosses with spammable attacks which are clearly not meant to be which have no warning animation… are fixed. Also the random death walls(walls which kill upon contact and are not traps but simply geometry bugs), broken instances where the mission gets stuck.. etc. Thats a feature to the “elite”!

Those who say l2p and that people who experience these bugs and cannot get past the content should realize this: I whipe entire teams in tribes sometimes. Entire teams. Go try it. I know about difficulty and I enjoy it. People who still complain once the bugs are fixed might need to learn to play but currently its perfectly reasonable to want certain things fixed.

Just because people aren’t capable of compensating for the huge amount of bugs in the game which undermine progress in various ways, doesn’t mean they should learn to play. Just because you hit level 80 doesn’t mean you are special. Theres level 80’s everywhere in lions arch and we are all over the map.

I know right? Isn’t it adorabibble.

You can basically join a team that is doing explorable mode if you haven’t done the storymode but you can’t start an explorable mode dungeon if you haven’t done the story mode for it. Go figure.

Anyway, I’d much rather have difficulty obtained through complexity than difficulty obtained through mobs with high attack damage and hit points. Thats just my personal opinion.

It needs to be fixed because it will lead to classes becoming more desired, less player variation and a horrible in game economy. It ruins games.

It can ruin this one just as easily and everyone will go to some new mmo which will actually succeed in dethroning WoW. Probably Archeage.

Its healthy for the game for them to look at these issues and fix them.

Yeah, I agree about the trash mobs too. Either fr0zen or I could both solo mobs 12 levels above us in pve with relative ease. We go into a dungeon, and it takes forever to kill just the trash mobs in some instances. During that time whatever boss exists is trying to ruin our day.

At least most games are honest and put an appopriate level next to the mobs names that reflects their actual difficulty whether its your level or not. The dungeon mobs aren’t even close to your level half the time. It took an entire team of people above the dungeon level to kill one mob half the time.. like 30 seconds of every player beating on them. The mobs aren’t even veteran.