Guild Wars 2

Pure assassination build. After some very moderate parsing, turns out that not only does Improv provide more general utility but certain stolen items just outpace the executioner when doubled up. Sadly.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vZEQNAsaVnsMBdmilNBePB8PhFYCzLNcGaDzdwT4KULBEA2NA-TlCHQBH4EAQvHAAAOCACUZgzOEAPRJIQU6xh9HCj+A5p+TAgDgf7bf/Nw5nf+5nfe/+7v/+7vlCwclWA-w

I don’t have any ascended armor, but thats the goal to grab right now. Also missing shortbow. But past that, I’m almost done getting the dream build

Suggestions? Thoughts? Concerns? (don’t mention immobile. I know that. debating pistol/pistol right now) Supposed to work pve/wvw. It’s very similar to my pvp as well.

Off note: Eye for an Eye has infinite range. Found out when one of em hit my tripwire. So ye, the struggles.

I know, but everyone’s like “Oh ye lord, ooh ye… what, how are we losing! GAH YOU GUYS SUCK RAWR”. Siiigh. :c I will soloq later. I hope anet resets mmrs next league then I can climb instead of this.

They went 1 by 1 by 1. And died. I was on my Thief so I couldn’t do much more than cap. They then proceeded to yolo run points alone until they remembered it was a team game, then the enemy team took lord out before the map or person on watch said a thing about it. And I was watching. I’m just saying. YoloQ is agitating.

Because no one knows how to listen or do simple math. Most recent match we were 302 points to there 174. Right, now keep that in mind.

“Hey, I’m going to take lord.” Says a guy. No one responds but me saying “NO! Don’t go, don’t throw”

Dude goes. Score begins to creep suddenly they are 284 to our 363. “Hey uh, they’re going to our lord”. “Dude focus on caps” “No, I need to defend”. Score ends at a juicy 462 us 562 them. “That’s why we need to go get their lord.”

I have decided I hate people who don’t listen. If you listen to me, I love you on the spot. If not, I dislike you with a passion that only Hades can rival. Have fun solo queueing and remember, these people are everywhere so yes sometimes you literally cannot do a thing except watch the loss come at you from a mile away.

On the bright side, +1 pip for losing meaning +3 pips if they’d have listened. Yaaay…. siiigih.

Disclaimer: This is to vent and inform. If you have questions ask, do not try to go aggro on me because you want to defend your honor or something.

I’d kill Guard’s pulls. I call bs that “oh you evade? ah no no no, pull”. Thats just stupid. A wall I get, a tether I do not.

On a thread related note seeing as I just read it: I’d like these nerfs. I want everything nerfed. Staff damage/bound damage on Thief, daze spam on DH traps (also I got 3 10k trueshots on my last ranked match. ye…thats uh fair), stability on dodge is bad no more Revs, might for having stability on Scrap is gone (also all that middle finger in your kit is gone screw “haha, its my skill” while you block/evade/reflect), heal on aura for all is gone thats just stupid, distortion goes to evade over blur Mesmers, up cooldowns on reaper shroud but knock down the cast time on gs2 to make it see play, warrior is fine (oh but no its not oh god blah blah, no its fine. meta? no. usable in a lot more situations than noted? yes). There all 9. Oh and by gone I mean nerfed in some horrid manner. I’d go on. But nerfs to this game are needed. Playing the 99% invuln while dishing damage on every click/passive trait makes this game stale. I used to have tells I could respond to, now its “I hope to god Mirror of Anguish and Distortion are on cooldown or I’m about to be brutally murdered”. That’s counterplay, riiight. Diamond Skin shutting down condi specs because “bring a team” is somehow a valid argument. Pulsing Resist is far better. I’d go on, but dang so many things need nerfing. Its incredible.

I love Reapers. I use em for ornaments if they refuse to acknowledge my presence in a teamfight.

That and per class rewards. Anet refuses to let you play at your best? Or is this a l2p thing with ranked? Prob the latter.

One day anet will actually look at pvp to fix the smaller details like this?? One day? :c I hope so. I really hate not knowing if something is working, makes me crazy. And I’m fairly certain SoP is broke…

EditX2: Felt aggressive.

I really wish they would show it. And Sigil of Paralyzation seemed to shorten my basilisk venom. Mesmer one felt the same. Guess I should test a bit more. :c I really wish they’d SHOW these stupid things. Why take Berserker runes if you can’t tell what your net game is :C

The reason sigils/runes are so standard in esl is because half of em are bugged/broken? Here’s 3 quick ones I just tested:

Superior Rune of Air. Where’s my proc? Is it invisible? Do I just trust it went off?
Superior Rune of Mesmer. My daze bro, comon. Its on my steal. Where’s my daze.
Superior Sigil of Paralyzation. 1 second stun should be 1.3, however its so short after sigil is on the sword/pistol that I can’t even hover my mouse (despite being prepared) to look at time. Maybe I’m just slow?

Anywho, ye. Bugs. I hope I’m wrong Someone disprove me. I was on my Thief and none of these were doing a thing. Well minus damage stats…

Edit: Also, skill fact were completely unchanged. :c I’m sad now.

Just realized we also have 0 protection and only one means of stability. Time to add those.

Really. I spend more time reading people than watching Twitch. And its far more enjoyable. Just wish I’d seen the rage quit ;-;

Edit: Also agree with Nocta. I already have a list of Thief changes lol. Take any of em. Take em all.

Edit2: Toker you da best. Played Thief

Inb4 someone tells you to kitten and fabricates a reason this is okay, healthy, and barf “fun”.

Thanks for free money. I expect the handout.

But it doesn’t matter. Two mesmers. You never lose a point.

Its up there. Working as intended. Just like the Ankle Shots nerf.

Ha… but on Thief… I … I can… kitten. Okay, time to play my Viper Rev.

Caster said “it may be boring, but this is the meta”. Ye. Meanwhile Anet like “yo this is perfect”. :c

Oh but its fine, nerf Thief. Fantastic logic, 3 years running.

Josh Davis.6015:

Azure The Heartless.3261:

Oh my God.

Brb, eating my words and my hat.

/15Dwaynas

This is why I only wear hats made of fruit roll-ups.

Will the changes listed be the sum of all changes, or are those listed just a few that were confirmed and thus meaning there will be far more? I’d ask about my class specifically, but :c Ye.

I made a warrior build that flat out beats people to death. pretty fun. Same on Thief. But ye :c buffs. I hate outplaying and getting rewarded with “oops, you goofed once after there 9000 mistakes. gg, you lose.”

I swear, people can’t learn to play or admit they are bad. Ever. Meaning the second we get buffed enough for new players to play the class (no really, we are balanced around mid-high tier which means…we’re fine…somehow? yet new players leave in under a week, some even before they finish two hours) we’ll get nerfed because the vets are viable duelist again. The conundrum is real. Only vets are left, but that means balancing for us boots newbies. However, balancing for newbies makes vets overpowered. Lose, lose.

Edited cuz too aggressive.

And people finally think Thieves need buff. But they still say “omg thief op” if you kill one. No one likes to admit they suck, meaning if we EVER get buffs they’ll be hotnerfed right back out. So ye. Not worth coming until at least spring 2k16.

AsurasRCute.4136:

Zero Day.2594:

Sir Vincent III.1286:

“Dear Santa,

I like +10% for Christmas.

Always a good boy,
Withdraw"

Santa: “And coal for this kid…Next!”

“But… you promised!…”

Santa: “Well Santa lied. GET LOST KID.”

Kitten is the swear word override.

As for your build http://en.gw2skills.net/editor/ this site lets you post to us. Use “Get Quick Link” on bottom when you finish building.

I tried to recreate yours though I missed some of it because you seemed unsure:
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vZAQRAoa84klOBvnA7TosTYbBAm5CC-TZBBAByXGAgHAAN7PsxRAIgTAAA

People say you need shortbow simply because it is our better ranged choice (pistols are good in certain scenarios, whereas shortbow is better in general sense) and because of the massive mobility. The other thing to remember is since we have no cooldowns, it is far more practical to grab a single set for fighting and a single set for supporting.

My personal suggestion for a build (assuming you can rotate d/p and s/d) is http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vZAQRAoa8Yn0MBVOh9OBmOBkmiFfCzrJsEiCbBgXTAaeAmAjgA-TpBGABeXGIhDCAAPAg0OBAHcEASf/BA

You have a lot of resistance to control, a lot of mobility provided you have someone targeted, a good deal of sustainability, and some general support. However, it is far more efficient to swap crit strikes for deadly arts with all mid traits. Mug and Improv are life savers, panic strike is just good in general and you can’t get rooted so condi reflect has no meaning. On top of that, I’d highly recommend finding which set you like better then swapping the other for shortbow. High area damage and control along with high mobility is too good to pass up until we can one on one. Also, have you tried the staff yet? The reason I am asking is you have an all-in set with dagger/pistol and a burst engage set with sword/dagger and these two styles are far different, however staff has both styles but misses out on boon steal and stealth.

Just some thoughts, hope I helped. I probably didn’kittens a wall, people don’t read walls.

Drake venom. That or shortbow 5 becomes f3 (after balancing) and it becomes a burn field. All hail condimeta.

I wanted longbow tbh. That or off-hand sword. But in the rifle/staff I wanted rifle.

@Doggie What?

Light:
Mesmer Phantasm
Ele fire attune
Necro Dhuumfire

Medium:
Ranger Trap+torch
Engi Pistol+flamethrower+flame turret

Heavy:
Warrior Torch+traits+primals most of the time
Guardian…really?
Rev Mace+trait

Yep. Thief? I mean, like…some runes?

I just finished. Swapped to my celestial revenant and started eating my pizza while playing. Siiiiiiiigh.

I’d say sleight of hand over that. I mean if someone comes and steals from you, wouldn’t you be a little confused like “wtf. where did you come from?”

I have a list of things from HoT as a daily reminder on the Thief forums. I think Anet did a great job launching, planning, and making HoT. I just wish our balance patch pre-season wasn’t a skill fact change and list of new elite specs. I’d gladly start in the year 2016 if that meant they’d have fixed things at least a little more. Can’t speak to others, but I’d love to know what the plan is towards my main clkittene being given the silent treatment. Makes me mad.

Oh Thief only class no burning.

Bump my daily reminder thread too =P

SEEEEEE! PREPAREDNESS BASELINE IS IMPORTANT.

/capslockandforgot

I’d prefer longbow =/ Sorry to be that odd ball. I don’t want rifle, its loud and noisy. Pistols are already like that =P

Buy Heart of Thorns, might be considered after. Only reason I can see for no changes- other games patch during leagues so that ain’t an excuse…

I wish Anet wanted the game to be better. At this rate, your money dies Anet. You are kicking players out the door AGAIN. Who’s going to spend if the game has no players?

Sigil of Purity kills your stacks too =P

Rev downed confirmed best? I out dpsed a downed Necro…wish I was kidding too =(

Bump.

/15char

I do fine provided I don’t have people “Swap please, don’t throw, PLEASE NOT A THIEF”. Thats like 1 in 5 games. =D My yolokill build works surprisingly well against non-DH. Still call bs on that Maw trap.

So I play my own home style Thief build, very effective and allows me to carry up to 2 bad players on my team (no I’m not kidding, I’ve carried with a tri pug). Unfortunately, thats not ok anymore because “what kind of scrub thief doesn’t have shadow refuge” =(

May I cry now guys?

Preparedness baseline.

Fix bugs.

Go from there.

My opinions personally :

Fleet Shadow- iffy. I honestly think it just needs to be replaced and Thief gets that special little “I can do Stealth better than you can” kinda thing.

I have very little on Acrobatics, its not my line style. I think you did well minus FS which just needs replacing or movement.

You missed Side Strike; its a critical supplement for medium to medium-high crit builds to make them medium-high and high in crit chance.

Signets of Power just needs to do something else.

I like your Flawless.

Sundering should be stack vuln/might on hit. Personal opinion. I mean the same trait it is now except might as well. It’d make it a choice.

Practiced Tolerance is no. Just NO. Do not touch my damage trait, I do not want to lose 21% of my crit magnitude bro.

Ankle Shots should have no trouble with cripple- Longbow on Dragonhunter has cripple on auto WITH a bounce. No need for an icd on trait with that, nor a question about ricochet anymore let alone range. I mean come on… Just a thought =P

Hidden Killer is literally just for backstab. I’d say roll backstab to 100% crit chance and make a new trait, but your thingie works too… I’d never ever pick it, but I guess?

I’d like to see less emphasis on get em below 50% and more on critical strikes and front loaded burst, but that’d take another full rework of this line.

Otherwise nice job, mostly agree. Now if only Preparedness was baseline so I could take Crit Strikes line instead of Trickery :c Anet plz.

It’s why I’m waiting. I’d prefer to be low and get a real climb over that.

So I’m still in Emerald, and I don’t lose often. Just wanna point that out. I just hate 4 minute queues. Wanna point out you guys and your attempted math show off is just bogus.

If everyone in your group holds 7k dps, VG isn’t a problem theoretically. Just saying =P

I was on EB. =P But ye, I guess. I hope we get people score is 350k SoR, less than 100 the other two. Not sure what it means, I just miss ganking people cuz map was packed.

I agree it helped, but I hadn’t had any troubles on them in AGES. Then they got buffed. Still makes me sad, read sig for why. Off note, I am allowed to hate Rev players who think they are good and that the class doesn’t carry/play for them- right? I recognize good ones, but most are uh…well they are uhm, bad? Ye, lets be nice and just say bad

After about a year. I encountered 3 players on my map and I believe 4 on Devona’s. I can’t believe its dead. It happened… Not trying to be pessimistic but holy kitten.

Edit: Oops pronouns. I mean Sanctum of Rall. Not WvW. Idk higher tiers headcount.

nearlight.3064:

That’s how playing necro or Mesmer felt before June. Don’t let it bother you.

Kidding right? I’ve been successful on Necro since Dhuumfire. Mesmer was just fine prepatch as well- blink mirror blade wasn’t a secret art. The one you are looking for was Ranger.