Guild Wars 2

Wants to join guild, doesn’t want to put account information onto a forum page >.>

Struggles man…

Edit: And I’m in

I want to be happy about HoT and the base game, and in many cases I am. But I am a Thief PvP player and right now all I see is :C :C :C in my eyes. Made me salty. Honestly think Anet does a good job in general, I just wish they’d not just forgotten we existed on June 23rd and on DD info release. And that they’d stop nerfing us every single patch :C :C :C

Bumping so this thread doesn’t die. Anyone find anything else?

alchemyst.2165:

1. True
2. What?
3. Good suggestion but we need to wait for next balance patch…
4. Doesn’t really matter
5. This is true for all skills, that’s why burning speed + Lightning flash works.
6. True
7. If you don’t like how it works don’t use it
8. This is true for any chain (excluding Mesmer scepter)
9. It’s been 6(?) months. Get over it.

2)Most of the Thief players (myself included) would prefer Palm Strike coming first and not second, which means we could land the entire Fist Flurry.

3) I’m still baffled as to why most Thieves are reluctant on this when Mesmers got Illusionary Persona.

4) It does matter because then Anet might do what they did to steal and try to stealth nerf it or will pull an Ankle Shots “well uh hurr durr, its not intended so we took it off”.

5) Then its a game wide issue to fix.

7) I don’t use the skill because it BARELY works. I use it in my pistol build for the 1200 range knockdown and passive cc reflector negation (throw wire, dodge back).

8) It’s not true for Fist Flurry/Palm Strike which is what I try to do personally. Daze, stun, knockup, stomp.

9) Added for others. I don’t care about it.

I don’t think the Dev’s truly read the forums. Much as this is a handy post, odds are low you will make an impact much less get a read/response. I hate to be that person to crush your hopes, but it has to be said. I wish you luck, I’m waiting for Thief to be viable. It died around half a year ago.

Impairing Daggers is still bugged…

Fist Flurry rolls into Palm Strike instead of Palm Strike rolls into Fist Flurry…

Preparedness is still not baseline…

Pistol-Whip’s evade is not in the tooltip…

Dodging during Shortbow 5 shot ends your dodge where the shot lands…

Scorpion Wire still doesn’t pull targets properly…

Bandit’s Defense roll over knockdown leaves us more vulnerable than not using it…

Impact Strike combo ends if you use ANY skill during the chain…

Withdraw heal still 10% too low…

Still haven’t just deleted Thief…

Flanking Strikes trait no benefit from Trickster or Improvisation…

Flanking Strike skill and Flanking Strikes trait names are the same…

Pulmonary Impact does not affect downed…

No reason to activate signets in most cases…

Signet of Shadows is still the worst movespeed signet…

Consume Plasma still missing Resistance and Quickness…

Thief remains the only class without burning access…

Thief remains the only class without a 1200 range weapon…

Thief remains the only class without access to protection…

Thief has only one access to Stability via Dagger Storm…

Dagger Storm is incredibly unreliable with damage application…

Dagger Storm, Shadow Refuge, and Thief Guild have become death trap abilities over useful…

Action Camera still hurts our Steal ability…

I’ve only ever played Thief. =/ I play Necro/Reaper too but I have far more time and experience invested on my Thief.

Looking forward to doing my pvp daily. I really do. But Anet has obviously forsaken us. I wish everyone luck, I’ma be joining the node farm all the maps club. Getting booted from teams is not fun =(

Struggles of Thief. Anet just end it, you can’t be this bad. Its just not possible.

Okie mate ^.^ how? I just wanted to help people who didn’t know how to get gold. Just trying to be helpful and for some reason you go for a personal attack? =(

I just play 3 ranked right now, timing that time gate. Rest is hotjoin. SIIIIIIIIIIGHHHH.

Nah guys, money on line, keep chugging. Just…you know…suck it up?

EEEEEeeeeee-SPPPPOOOORRRRTSSS. Or something.

Edit: Oh and nerf Thief. Still showing up in spvp, this is unacceptable.

“Flux”. Thief was BARELY usable, then died altogether. We got called Shortbow 5 often. Now its “can you please swap? I’d like to win this ranked match.”. I left a guild because they said they refused to pvp with me because I played Thief.

I know Warrior was with it before HoT then died flat out. I’m not sure how you guys are doing, but on Thief side I got booted.

Can’t kick a rock without finding a Revenant these days. I’m safe from Mesmers…for now…. I think a Bunker/Heal Mesmer+Condi Rev on point A+B with a roaming fifth will make an invincible comp. You can’t kick em off the point, the two classes are just indestructible. But its k, Nerf thief.

I have a longbow and a half mile. I can end the Avatar :P

Everyone wants swords. I do too. Much as I want Bolt, I want a new legendary…

Still want my steal idea implemented. Shamelessly pushing attention to my previous comments…

I will probably necro this more and more as I figure it out more and more. I really want Bolt…like I am jonesing soooo hard. Only got 50g, but I made that in 2 days with 4 hours of play between them. Logged in today after 5 hours of work, I have “Funds 6(gold)42(silver)65(copper)” and all I did before my shift for two hours was hit some Cursed Shores. Even leader’d myself. Btw, vials of powerful blood is rising again- some new recipe release that needs it? Only noticed because I crafted my runes of evasion and noticed 60 silver…

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vhAQRAse7cncfCNqhFpB2qBEgilejyMAelMqeUX1XF9G6oYA-TJRHwAEOJA72fAwTA4YZAA

Inb4 you shred it because “seeing it on paper means I know more about it than you do after using it in practice” or the more common “I have larger cahones, this must be a lower elo build”. Calling it now.

Edit: Too lazy to fix, realized I put wrong util in- Decoy= Precog.

I play condi bunker mes. Burn on block, blind on block/evade, confusion on block/evade/blind. Yaaaay. It totally is much harder to play than my Thief, makes me feel mad skilled to be invulnerable and kill things in the meantime… Nerf Thief, amirite?

This is mostly for people who say “XYZ 2 expensive”. I understand that keeping items you need is good, but when you just want money to buy object A then thats what this is for.

Decided to continue this (as my personal adventure into figuring this out continues as well):

A good way to make money, so long as you have mild patience is to list absolutely EVERYTHING. Never sell instantly, list all your gear because someone will buy it eventually.

Another minor tip is sometimes people will make a buy order, then set a sell order right above it (like 1 copper) so people will list on it. If the difference is rather large and the sell order quantity is low- buy the sell order, relist it. Only do it maybe once or twice, not consistently.

=) Hope this helped. Logged in today to 7 gold in my TP.

Laserbolt.6731:

Serious Thought.5394:

…If I choose to, I can win my matches.

Even against The Abjured, when you are given low-skilled teammates who give up and stop fighting?

Well of course not =P Abjured doesn’t lose against plebs like me. I’m saying short of a pro team, I can win. But unfortunately I’m emerald because I don’t play enough games, and when I win I lose pips. Siiiigh. Still upsetti about that.

What Disgrace said- UA seems to completely bug out in stealth so blinding powder+bound= no damage. Also it has a fairly decent animation so headshot it- if you have trouble spotting it, have a Revenant friend help you practice. If it remains a humongous problem get the Ambush Trap that spawns the extra Thief and drop it.

No but the skillfact says it is so. And I am very for mug critting or at least doing more damage as well as my idea for the new steal trait for Crit Strikes- mainly because Crit is the only line without a benefit for steal.

Signet’s have shorthanded burst, not sustained burst (crazy concept). I am capable of annihilating Revenants, Reapers, a few DH’s (I hate that daze so hard), most tempests, many other thieves, and so on. Trouble is from scrapper because 100% block uptime is 100% block uptime. Have to time Headshot for that Hammer 3, and 5. Have to steal into whirl or pistol whip. Have to run for my life from Hammer 4. Then wait it out via the blocks on the Wrench Kit thing, then some distance makers from Elixir so on so on. Siiiiiiiiiiiiigh. Still, 8/9 professions being nukable is a great booster to confidence ^.^

Had a funny moment I killed a Revenant in that Herald shield thingie with 4 pulm stacks. Trait procced and he just expired.

People focusing on PI and not Mug. Anyone notice that PI is bugged and does not restore endurance despite the Brawler’s Tenacity trait and it clearly stating “Physical”? No. Ok, I’ma move on.

Ossa creates a mass point blank aoe that takes a percentage of hp over time. Possibly largest. Also has highest defensive stats and a decently timed CC.

Nika provides short range perma stealth with blind on reveal. She has the single highest damage to one target and lowest defense. Best used to push with mobs (post-bug unsure, I never noticed with the bug) as archers will pop from stealth and blind guards making them come out far higher in hp and thus door damage.

Grymm is amazing for map pressure. If you want one to just nuke players with no care in the world, throw this guy. Knockdown, 10-15% hp damage (haven’t taken notes, but I always get terrified when I hear his voice), hits all enemy players.

My personal pick is Nika, I play Thief. For non cele builds, swap to Grymm. With cele or tankier, go Ossa. Its very straight forward. =)

I thought that way, then I went from yolo to 110%yolo. Result? If I choose to, I can win my matches. But when I win matches, I still lose pips. Made a post, called bullkitten, moved on. Can’t move up the ranked ladder when you win, can’t move up when you lose. GG?

They tried that. The 3 tank point bunker meta entailed. 1 person a point, fighting one person a point with no progress.

Though trait lines I agree with. I miss my 70 points, then my 14 points, and now I just got 3 lines (but I play thief so I have…1?).

You are only a bit behind the rest. Somedays I’m content (not happy, just okay) and somedays (yesterday) I’m livid. I play Thief btw.

Narcarsis.5739:

Serious Thought.5394:

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vZAQNAsaVn8lCFmiVmCemCkmiFYCzLNcGaDzdwT4KULBEAyAA-TJBFABCcKAue/hqKDAwTAAA

Made full post, but I figured I’d ask here too- anyway to make this instagib harder? So far the V-F1-3 combo 100-0s players.

The only way to get more damage outside of a rune swap is to drop Panic Strike for Revealed Training and dodge out of Black Powder while engaging. This could backfire though if they can just walk out of your Pistol Whip. Wouldn’t exactly recommend Assassin’s Signet but if it’s more damage you want that would add to it (I’d take Signet of Agility over Assassin’s).

Thanks. I realized a few days ago (beginning of league,ish) that I preferred nuking to dueling and that if I could kill someone faster than they could retaliate then I’d be fine in all bases. Might try that BP/V/F1 with RT over PS. Am worried about the walkout, maybe swapping my Palm Strike for Devourer Venom? I already have Impairing Daggers for the other root and Bandit’s Defense could be swapped as well, though it is my only stunbreak in case I have to react…

1) Unless someone stealth caps it by watching you leave and sprinting when you are gone.
2) Unless you know your team can handle the other 3 players and are thus holding 2 enemy players off point by your lonesome.
3) Unless you are a VERY good Thief and know you can cap the fight you are on, decap that, bounce into both the other fights etc etc.
4) Fully agree. Its like hunting season when a tertiary objective spawns. I usually get 20-30 points for my team murderizing people in that time.
5)What if all my players have 0 clues how to play pvp?
6) Yes. This. So. Much.
7) Unless you are a full bunker and your team is about to party time the other 2 points. Then your lost 5 outweight your gained 10+.
8) Yep.
9) Or create a build that you can play on a class you know extraordinarily well. My homemade builds work for me better than any meta I have tried. I have a curious playstyle.

Just thought I’d have some fun =P

alchemyst.2165:

Serious Thought.5394:

@Alch:
I noticed that every line EXCEPT Critical Strikes offers something for Steal. What if the Steal buff that came from Crit Strikes line critically hit?

It’d be a trade off. No one really takes that vuln on crit trait (seriously, why would you?) so maybe stick it there? I’d place it as an ability that hits for 1/3 of the value of pulmonary impact at 4 hits total to achieve that value with the capability to crit?

I’m confused. Are you saying basically adding a mug-like ability that can crit? Either way I’m down for buffing Critical Strikes, it needs some love.

Like this (these numbers are with 2200 power):
Crossed Shadows- jab your 4 times in the blink of an eye and causing them to be more vulnerable for a brief time. If any of the jabs critically strike, they do 25% more damage.
Damage(4x): 600 {For reference mug is at 1,173}
Vulnerability(5 stacks per hit): 5 seconds

Each hit does 150 damage, inflicts 5 stacks of vulnerability, and can crit. I personally feel this might be a little weak, but I’m sure others will think it is too strong.
Thoughts on this swapping with Sundering Strikes?

And then I lose a game but keep my pip. May I just say this makes me utterly confused?

That you can lose pips for winning. Which raises the question: why try to win a game that says you lose?

I made a decision to basically log in for daily and thats it. No motivation to play a game that timegates pvp players, kittens on my main class for kitten near half a year, then throws out a league system that consciously punishes players for being solo. I was having fun (when all my friends were on that are good enough at pvp that I lose to them on my thief. says something, right there) but thats kinda gone. Still gonna hit forums, but I’m just looking for something that is enjoyable now. =/ I might pve? Or I might just make a “thank you anet for your time, enjoy your game, see you in 2k16 when you see it didn’t work out and fixed at least one problem” kinda post. =/

80% crit is best, cuz then you fury and its all red numbers.

We aren’t allowed to say get lucky, so I will say ~pray~.

Cuz people think they the best. I getcha. Had someone say I had low mmr despite beating him in both a hotjoin, meeting him in a ranked, and repeatedly destroying him 1v1. Am I missing a step? I beat him in unorganized team, organized team, and singular dueling. Said I had low mmr still, and that beating him up meant nothing because he had higher mmr than most players. Kek.

@Alch:
I noticed that every line EXCEPT Critical Strikes offers something for Steal. What if the Steal buff that came from Crit Strikes line critically hit?

It’d be a trade off. No one really takes that vuln on crit trait (seriously, why would you?) so maybe stick it there? I’d place it as an ability that hits for 1/3 of the value of pulmonary impact at 4 hits total to achieve that value with the capability to crit?

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vZAQNAsaVn8lCFmiVmCemCkmiFYCzLNcGaDzdwT4KULBEAyAA-TJBFABCcKAue/hqKDAwTAAA

Name: First Contact
Concept: Go in hard. Don’t need defense if you kill em too fast.
Game Mode: PvP/WvW (I’d have to alternate site it, but the traits/weapons/utils are same)
Weapons: Sword/Pistol+Shortbow

Gear: Berserker
Runes: Evasion
Sigils: Air/fire
Traitlines: DA/TR/DD

Utility Skill: Channeled Vigor, Bandit’s Defense, Fist Flurry, Impairing Daggers, Impact Strike.

Consumables: Idk.

What I read is what my thoughts are (which means we all agree?):

Pulmonary should not crit.
Mug should crit.

I don’t use staff on my daredevil, hammer on my scrapper, or gs on my reaper. I get what you are saying but…I take the line for the traits at this point (though my chrono needs it less and less…)

Any chance you (pvp team) would be willing to discuss with us what you are plans are for each class? Both at core, and for specific elites? Where you want them to be? After all, 2k15 is almost gone and it seems like everything is outta whack. At least an idea of your plans going forward would be wonderful. I do know that people will more than likely be toxic, but after all calm discussions I expect they’d relax.

Here’s to hoping for a response on my comment. First time for everything?

Edit: No response. I am sad panda.

I’d prefer they gave Thief and Warrior a real June 23rd (remember what changed? I sure don’t. things MOVED but overall the classes were EXACTLY the same. meanwhile necro, mes, ele got MASSIVE buffs.) and likewise nerfed all elite specs outside of Chrono ,BErserker, and Daredevil. With exceptions of course, but do not nerf Bound (otherwise it will see 0 use) and do not nerf Lotus (again, 0 use). Gunflame should stay the same. Maybe drop the daze, but same. Chrono is block hell, but easy to fight.

I’d love to discuss with you guys, see where we agree.

I agree, I don’t want it deleted. I don’t want to see “And 6 of 10 contenders are running celestial amulets”. That’s not esports =( Not to me.

Off note- Vial of salt has exotic level stats (mayhaps lower?). Don’t make the ascended item, its the most literal version of gold sink available. Anet plz. I burn 60 gold and you thank me with a fake promise?

=) Glad to have helped. I had to stick with what I liked, figured it was speedy rapid hits and massive front load damage- higher risk, higher reward and all =). Dropped my double pistol dream for a beat em up nuke. =P If you get me in a match and I say INCOMING FIRST CONTACT … watch my plays

To be almost 30% better than either amulet? Ye. I’d say AT LEAST a 35 point drop on each stat. That’s stupid. Did you read me post?

It can be stronger as a generalist, but it shouldn’t outmatch specialist.

I made a post a while back, but to summarize-

3 stat amulets: 3000 accumulated points
4 stat amulets: 3220 accumulated points
Celestial amulet: 3920 accumulated points

Simple math dictates the power of Celestial. Its like starting a match with ascended gear. The obvious suggestion is to mediate all stats to 3220. 700 from 7 stats is 100 per stat, making celestial 460 per item instead of 560. 220 into each stat for 3 stats is roughly 73 points each meaning 1273, 973, 973. This may look odd, but it would even out the points.