Guild Wars 2

Iehova.9518:

Oglaf.1074:

Lupi, like Kholer, is the bane of disorganized and sloppy groups.

I know, right? Killing him in 90 seconds is a kitten for our disorganized and sloppy group.

A world record of a disorganized & sloppy group w/o a video showing it is just a pipe dream. Make strifey video a no show.

Raidium.3916:

With Fotm and CoF grinding. It’s kind of hard to find a group for Arah, so joining one was a lot easier. If they were there for tokens, I doubt they’ve done it more than 100th times… Who would farm Arah for anything else other than tokens?

Me. I have more than Arah 2000 tokens sit in the bank, doing nothing. I have couple of Arah weapons for my Warrior & Guardian so I can kill the undead faster. My exotic armors aren’t from Arah and not interested to change it. I’m neither interested in legendary weapons, give a crap about golds and if I can give Arah tokens away for free, I would. I’ve run Arah w/ my non rep-guild almost every night because they are the nicest people I’ve met in game and for the challenge & fun. And I’m not the only one doing this.

Wukunlin.8461:

I made a post on the site forum for those who want to arrange for a P4 run.

I’ve scheduled a p4 run on 4:30PM PST on this Sat 3/23 (plus/minus 15min)

Trust me, if Anet decides to implement 1 rare per silver, 1 exotic per champion, the mobs will be completely annihilated and have no place to hire.

I’ve not seen any difference on Lupi but the mobs’ routing & pattern behaviors seem having been changed. The route they patrol are closer to the running path and if you are not careful, you or the NPC will pull them for sure.

We are a very small guild with a group of nice, mature, competent and well educated players of Ehmry Bay.
Our current objective is dungeons as I run Arah, Fractals almost every night with my other non-rep guild & CoE if I can find enough interested people. And I miss the challenge to run other dungeons w/ new comers. Experience is never an issue as long as you are willing to improve. We recruit only the right kind of players that fits our small guild, just enough present on-line to fill at least 3,4 members of a dungeon party and have fun at it. And I can help you leveling if needed to since we know every little tricks in leveling, World Events included, so you can go with us in any dungeon at minimum level.

The most important requirements of our guild are

1) Be nice & patient to others. Age should be 20 minimum.
2) Have couple hours a day & few days a week to play.
3) Rep our guild, anytime you group with us.

We also have Mumble used primarily for dungeon’s coordination. PM me if you want to be part of this guild and help us growing. My time zone is 4:30PM PST. But other members are EST after works.
PS: Just so you know, our motto is “Through difficulties, comes honor”.

If you want to be a better player, select dungeons , paths & groups w/o skipping boss & hard contents. Reason: If you get used w/ skipping before learning how to fight properly, you will end up as a lousy player even though you wear full exotic gears. So here is my list of dungeons in order that you still can find plenty of people to do it to train yourself

AC Kholer, cave troll is very good for starter
COF P2 is good at defending Mag’s event ( P3 is good too but it’s hard to find group)
CM all paths are good so you know how to deal w/ bad mobs
… when you get to these dungeons, consider yourself as good at fighting
COE (Alpha)
Arah (Lupi)

Then go ahead, skip as much as you like.

On the other hand, COF P1 until Anet decides to fix that.

Kumakichi.2583:

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-SkyChef do you mean you would like this info placed into the guild MOD?

Obal did change MOD to reflect this already, yesterday I believe. Thanks anyway.

Gelltor.3015:

Generally the people who will exclude rangers from parties are not the people you want to play with anyway,I normally avoid any group that excludes certain professions for that reason.
Also,this forum will happily tell you all the ranger’s faults but most people in the game tend not to care/even know about alot of the less obvious problems people have with them.

False. I accept them because I’m a nice person,not that I don’t know 80-90% of rangers out there are horrible in dungeons. Every time I see 2 rangers in CoF p2/p3, CoE, Arah, I’ve said to myself “here we go again”. You know how many times, I just want to have some good excuses to quit the party when those rangers standing there short bowing & die, time after time.

What Shiren said is the main reason, I rarely bring my ranger in a dungeon, unless in a friendly party that they know I’m trying to test my ranger skills.

Zogyark,
Check your pm, please.

If you are the only competent player in your party, Kanako Davis advise is sound.

I update the description of the site.
To clarify, the site is created for the original Lupi Stomped My Pug non-rep guild to serve the need of a central event scheduling in advance for various Arah paths runs. It belongs to the LFG group. The name was changed because LFG might cause confusion w/ the GW2LFG site if members elect to use that site for instant grouping.
Any member of the LFG guild is guaranteed a full access to the site (forums, contents everything but the officers’ meeting forum), if they apply. Non member will need an invitation to the LFG guild before applying to that website’s access as I’m abide by the original post of this thread.

PS: I’ve signed up for your event, Wukunlin & I assume it’s 4PM PST. Solo: feel free to add that under Forums’ Strategies section.

Birds of a feather flock together.

novalee marie.2458:

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Awesome site! Let me know if you need help with anything.

Thanks & I will keep that in mind. And I need a lot of suggestions.

Yep, Lupi & Kholer got my vote.
Kholer with his fancy moves, doing nothing but waste your dodges so he can finish you up w/ his pull & spin. The best designed boss there is for a low level dungeon.
No need to say anything about Lupi.
Subject Alpha isn’t that bad but fighting him 2,3 times in a path making it a tedious chore and wear off his novelty.

Yasha.6105:

Chef, great job on the site. If it gains traction, perhaps we could expand it to other dungeons as well. I wouldn’t mind running other dungeons with people from LFG

Everything is possible.

@Kumakichi,
Somehow we need to broadcast the new website & its event scheduling to members who rarely show up here.

Daemon Hawk,
Don’t work yourself up that bad. There is only 50% chance that others are right and also 50% chance that you might be right that those 2 are really bad apples who think their pranks are just fun. Just ask them the next time though.

As a matter of fact, I dislike anyone who told others in their party inside a dungeon not to watch a cutscene. It’s fine if they laid out the rule before accepting a member into their party but it’s totally absurd against people watching cutscene as if it’s a default rule. So what a couple of minutes of cutscene would save them?
We normally just proceed to whack the mobs, the boss without waiting for our new member finished watching the movie. Have fun watching it and join us when you’ve done.

Wukunlin.8461:

wonderful quick question though, which timezone does the website use? server time?

edit: oh, and I just applied :P

Server time but to eliminate confusion, everybody should specify time zone in their own events. In the absent of time zone specification, it’s defaulted to server time (which is PST).

It took me no more than 30 min to set up the website.
Members of the club will have access to www.LupiSlayersClub.shivtr.com once you have applied to www.shivtr.com for a free account then re-apply again at our website. That’s the way it works.
I’ve also put an example of how to schedule an event in the event calendar. All suggestions are welcomed. This thread now should returned to its original purpose. And other purposes.

laharl.8435:

Yeah, I’m not saying we can’t use gw2lfg. Just that this guild was created partly so we don’t have to. I don’t mind using gw2lfg, but I like getting as many from the guild as I can first. Nine times out of ten you still get good people from gw2lfg, but sometimes there’s just a bad apple.

That’s not what I’ve trying to say. What I meant is we could use LFG for our group to put in such ads as:

SkyChef Dungeon Arah p3 Level 80 LF2M Members of LupiGuild Only [options]

Possible Options:
Melee’ing Lupi.
[Two] new comers welcomed.
All [class specifier] challenged.

And whoever puts in the ads should screen the applications to make sure that all members aware if there is someone not in our club.

PS: I want to emphasize this because I don’t mind to run w/ your guild or your friends but my priority is running w/ this guild’s members first.

Edited for contents.

We can still use GW2LFG but said specifically that this is for this guild only. No one said we cannot use GW2LFG for a specific group.

For those who runs regularly with experienced players and found yourself unsually down too many times in one encounter w/ Lupi then there are only 2 possible causes:
1) You are under influenced of abused substances
2) Your internet is bad during that moment either caused by Anet, your ISP, the internet paths between you to Anet are having issues, or your internet BW is hogged by another member(s) sharing the same network.

I can’t help you w/ cause #1 and most of the causes of #2, but you can fix the problem of your network being hogged by others, notably those playing online games like Xbox Live, so you can use QoS to give your node, the highest priority and lower everybody down a couple notches. There is a very good write up how to use QoS for Linksys but it also applies to many routers w/ some variations.

http://www.linksysinfo.org/index.php?threads/using-qos-tutorial-and-discussion.28349/

Just make sure to specify your port 80, 443, 6112, 6000, file transfer having the highest priority.

Thanks Ioflux for the tip about dodging & CD between crystal attacks. I think I have 1s to dodge the crystal once the guy jumps up. And stability skill also have 8s duration, so I think have some leeway there.

Lyze, yeah I saw you run CoE w/ your group, so thanks for the offer. Likewise, if you need 1 more player, I am there for the taken.

I have experience to set up a free website w/ events scheduling. Basically, legitimate members of the guild have to re-apply to the website so they have full access to calendar’s event. In there, they can initiate their own request & time. Members who want to group in that event just need to add their name in that group, and the class they will take w/ them. It’s that easy & nobody has to do anything housekeeping.
But I’m an old fashion guy, so I will only set up the website if Obal or Kumakichi gives me the go.
But it’s also my experience that regardless of the website events are in place, people just do not use it. They all want everything instantly like instant messenger. Heck, human nature. I want it and I want it now.

They are there to enhance player’s escaping skill.

Unfortunately, the pug situation in CoE is so sad and I don’t find competent players whom I know of, doing CoE so I can join. In 3 out of 4 pugs I joined lately, they all died within the 1st few minutes and I have to solo alpha all the time. The 4th one is like a breeze (guard, war, mesmer, thief & ele). My experience of CoE is exactly 4 times but I am also a utube watcher.

It takes a long while for my girl, a guardian to kill alpha alone in the first encounter. The 2nd one is tougher because I didn’t know about JI skill that well (now I know). But that shouldn’t be the issue the next time.

In case of my JI is in CD, anyone know if the Sword/Scepter teleport skill could break me out of the crystal too? And how warrior breaks out of crystal alone? It’s not for me to soloing alpha. Just in case, I have to do it reluctantly.

There is another issue w/ some players advocating against skipping but they won’t say it, even though they understand why people skipping mobs. They died a couple times while trying running through the mobs and when they were the last person left at the wp, trying to run again, it doesn’t look or feel good. Trust me, I know that feeling.
Skipping through mobs is a skill, and it will show when you are the only person left alone or you are the last person in the party while mobs are targeting you. If you think running through mobs in other dungeons are bad, try those in Arah who makes those mobs in other regular dungeons like a walk in the park. In a bad day, I could die a few times running through them while my friends under the same situation, running through it effortlessly time after time. Instead me being mad, I am evaluating my escape skills of the class I currently playing, my understanding of my escaping skills under duress and I try to improve it. So for ex, since I’m pretty bad w/ my warrior running, I would switch to GS & Sword/Shield, Signet of Dolyak, Signet of Stamina, Enduring Pain, Signet of Rage. That is a ton of escaping skills in there as long as I don’t target the enemy while trying to run away.

And I still die sometimes. But look at my guild tag: Through difficulties, comes honor.

All righty, guys. Thanks for the info.

Just did p2 today w/ a pug and my guard can’t get out of the crystal during the last encounter w/ Subject Alpha using Judge Intervention. I’ve tried it many times & it didn’t even work once. If I recall correctly, it was working before the very recent patch. Is this an unintended “new feature” or can anyone confirm it one way or another?
And also there is a bug at the wall of the 1st room w/ Alpha on p2. I used GS leaping skill onto alpha where he was cornered to the wall & I stuck inside the wall. He can still attack me for awhile then walk away (my pugs are all dead). We have to log off, break up the party to do it all over again or he won’t reset.

PS: I turned off auto attack skill & also auto targeting. I’m sure he’s my target.

I’ve seen a good engineer soloing Lupi in Arah for a while, so I don’t think you need a fully deck warrior level 80 to do AC.

CryxTryx.9208:

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Why are people asking for the one part of the game they think is too hard for them to be changed?

Very simple. Human is a very curious creature. Most of them (80/20 rule in a way) wants the same rewards w/o working a lot (in the name of … putting your excuses here). It’s everywhere around you.

If they can’t manage the cond. removal CD & in low health, hide behind the gate wall (the narrow area where people fall if they miss the jump to the top of the pillar) The queen won’t chase you in there and you can manage the little spiders if they follow you.

But it’s pretty bad scenario if all 5 of you are in there.

Yasha.6105:

I’ll group with anyone in the guild who wants to run Arah—doesn’t have to be with 4 other exclusive people. :-P

I don’t want anyone to get the wrong impression. I don’t NEED to run Arah daily but right now, it’s my flavor of the month—can’t run Arah forever right? :-)

I don’t want to come across as implicating favoritism or anything else. It’s just a problem of limitation of resources which we have no way to know who is available or will be available at certain time. And we can’t tell the person’s location is due to cross-servers display resulting in several times, people returned my pm that they are already in Arah w/ our guild people. Imagine if my pm comes at the time their date w/ Lupi is hottest.

For Dungeon Master title, they have to complete all Dungeons All Paths (correct me if I’m wrong). So I don’t think running just 1 path, especially P3 (the easiest path) would do them any good to acquire the title and 1 path run with Obal as a newbie, wouldn’t give you any real experience because he did all the works (look at me, guys).

The real experience comes when they start running w/ different groups with various level of experiences & compositions then they will realize there’re more to learn. Some will step up to the plate, some will say nah, it’s not worth it, couple runs are enough to know what’s in there. This applies to all dungeons, just not Arah.

Then we have people w/ timing problems. Some’re from east coast, some’re from west coast and so on. And schedule prioritizing issues such as running w/ friends, teaching their newbies ropes in different dungeons etc. Then preferences to only run w/ people you know, especially places like Arah. In the end, you don’t get that many people joined you. So if Yasha got his 5 and I think he does after last night, meaning others in the same guild with the same timing as Yasha won’t get their 5 for daily running due to limitation of available players in the pool, unless he’s in Yasha group. And it starts getting complicated

I don’t believe any level #35 is that stupid not be able to use voice chat. But a person w/ personal vendetta could be that stupid to object that.

You are bad habit, haviz. What’s your trait setup (typical bunker d/d)? Give me a hint so I can take my girl in there (not to solo like you though)

Thank you. That’s enough. I have enough coffee spilled on my laptop already.

haviz.1340:

Another thing, will you equip jewelry at all? Most pre 80lvl chars don’t do that all. Rest of the gear should be blue around 25 lvl.

the way haviz’s going, the next bomb he’s going to drop is can you guys just hit #1 only?

Slither Shade.4782:

I have defended the new AC but Anet lack of quality control and pushing out a buggy product in indefensible. Path 2 obviously buggy and has been since RELEASE. Lets say it one more time “SINCE RELEASE”. Sure you can get it to work but why do I have rifle butt the boss in order to wake him up out of his stupor? And poor Detha and her brain freeze we all know about that. Path 3 the Warmaster npc doesnt pop his bubble half the time….though maybe he just needs a well timed knockdown once in a while idk. Path 1 Hodgins is better but Hodgins is still a total idiot dropping the aoe randomly and without purpose.

The spider queen, troll, and kholer are the only good things about this dungoen at the moment. More that works as intended like that please. As it stands now I wouldnt recommend this game to anyone due to the releasing of crap.

I recommend they should hire you as their chief Q/A to remedy the situation. You probably fire all the Q/A dept, if they have any to start with.

I’m not that “hardcore” but I can join. I’m good after 7:30PM PST all the way to midnight.

Maestro.5376:

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To be honest, all other games out there have much more punishing mechanics in play to keep players from acquiring gear. At least in GW2, when you complete an explorable, you KNOW you’ll eventually get whatever piece of gear you want. Other games, you can just watch the party dice rolls award that new chestpiece you really wanted to someone who doesn’t even need it and is just going to sell it. To that end, GW2 is actually fairly lenient; they’ve even upped the token rewards from 30 to 60.

If anything, the ~1g you get from running a dungeon should be enough of a reward in and of itself, since with that you can easily go buy yourself some new gear.

But in all honesty, I run dungeons for content, not rewards, so don’t take it from me. I ran headlong into CoE when I knew there was nothing I needed in there, just because I’d heard nightmares about Subject Alpha when the dungeon was still new.

I have 5 80s and they are all equipped w/ exoctic gears from dungeons and plenty of spare tokens of every possible dungeons and I still run dungeons every nights. Why? Because I don’t know how good I’m when I’m in the company of competent players which always is the case of the dungeon guilds I am belonged. As a matter of fact, I could just sit there eating my dinner and watched my party finishing the dungeon w/o me most of the time. Isn’t that nice?
Only when I lead a party of newbies (who doesn’t even know shield of guardian isn’t necessarily a physical shield, or ele stuck in 1 weapon attunement and so on..) into a dungeon, then I know how good I’m. And that’s my challenge.

That being said, I really don’t know how good people are when they said they are experienced. Maybe they are really good. Maybe they are carried by other competent players in their party w/o knowing it. Like me.

And the other side of the spectrum, when the going gets tough, the “tough” quits going but asking to lower the difficulty. And excuses, and excuses … which is good because excuses make people feel better.

Maestro.5376:

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Or maybe the devs are currently redesigning the dungeons so they fit this statement better, like they’ve already stated they’re doing.

Oh man. Why you guys have to bring CoF in here? Here goes my last fun run.

Ioflux.4369:

SkyChef.5432:

Good people cares for the group’s success and they will do utmost to not burden the group even at their own discomfort. Naturally, they will adapt and will become a better player.

Nope, they’ll complain that they should be able to play how they want to and be able to obtain the rewards they want even if it means holding back their 4 other teammates.

If you keep tickling me, I will drown you w/ my new warrior skill: Beer Burst.

The problem is lying at reference level. If the current one was the original AC dungeon referenced to the beta’s dungeons, then no one would complain. Now Anet is changing the mechanics (hence the difficulty of adaptation) relative to the one before, they will have their earful.

They should hire those in academies: Never raise the current standard higher than the previous standard, so no child be left behind. Or lower the standard …

Here is the link to calculate the precision.
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Precision
and critical hit
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Critical_hit
I did try to see where the sweet pot between increasing power, critical damage & precision but after a while, I think I’ve settled w/ precision takes more precedence over critical damage, assuming power is the same in both cases. It costs less to increase the precision and more effective. You can also look at the critical hit chart to see how much crit damage has to be increased while keep precision constant to have the same effect as increasing precision & keep crit damage the same.

For the cave troll, fight him at the area in front of Hodgin’s flame path. You won’t fall off the ledge (if your cond skill is on CD). That is if you want to fight him. Or Kholer will gladly help you. And he won’t 1-shot you if your dodge properly. That is dodge when he’s coming down. Not when he’s going up. Or count 1-2-3 when he starts his animation then dodge as everybody here keep saying that’s how you dodge.

Good people care for the group’s success and they will do utmost to not burden the group even at their own discomfort. Naturally, they will adapt and will become a better player.

Maestro.5376:

As an update, we’re planning on doing the run this Sunday, 4 PM Server time.

Awesome. I don’t think you guys having any issue w/. I just ran P1 last nite w/ a bunch of total newbies in green/rare gears and I man the war (mix knights/berserkers exotics, shout build). I consider myself just a bit above average (and great help from Obal to improve my skills’ mechanic). We down the spider queen (no wipe), kill the cave troll (no wipe), Kholer (3 wipes, because they was taught to hide behind the pillars near the gargoyles ’ heads instead of fighting Kholer properly) I insisted to fight Kholer at the main hall so I can see everything and explained the mechanics. We down Kholer the next try. The real problem is at the Hodgins’ burrow because lacking of DPS and inexperienced. Took us hours to get through it, trying everything. We proceeded after finding the Hodgin’s scepters and killed everything on our way (just in case, if we got wiped at the boss so no one has to run the gauntlet again). Wiped 2 times at the boss because people didn’t know how to lure the mobs into the fire rings and got hurt while doing so. The 3rd time took literally no time, once every one knew what to do. Total from start to finish: 2 hrs. Group composition: 2 80s (1 war, 1 ele), couple 70s (1 war & 1 ranger) and 1 50s (1 guardian). Based on my observation, they don’t know much about traits, skill bars, weapon swapping, dodging, fighting mechanics etc. They are no different that any level 35s but attitude, they have a tons. I have never met them b4 but after last night, I gain 4 new friends.

Just for comparison purposes, I did P1 same day after reset w/ a group considered as experienced 80s and I man my guardian. We did the whole path like in 30m sans mobs killings.

Can a group of good attitude level 35s do it? Possible but I still doubt it. More likely around 45s. But bad attitude group at level 80s couldn’t even kiss Kholer feet (or worse the spider queen)

Ethics.4519:

SkyChef.5432:

I am not going to argue w/ u. You should go to buy the same book I link in another post.

You guys are mostly arguing the same point. The book you linked is mainly about how trial and error lead to better knowledge. Death’s point is there has been no trial, yet OP is saying something is definite without any proof.

He was wrong IN THE OTHER POST that he claimed while not providing any evidence. And he’s trying to setup a group IN THIS POST to prove that it can be done.

I understand your concept skychef, which I think has it’s good points and bad points. The good point is that you can assume an inexperience group will wipe more than an experienced one. But I don’t think you can assume that just because the experience group wipes a couple of times, it means the inexperienced one will be able to complete the same dungeon, just with more wipes.

Then we can agree to disagree on quantitative evidences as I said before (I purposely use big words to deter the other, but you won’t have any problem w/ this)

DeathPanel.8362:

SkyChef.5432:

I am not going to argue w/ u. You should go to buy the same book I link in another post.

You wouldn’t be embarassing yourself so much if you actually bothered to read your own book.

I have all of his books if that makes you feel better.