Guild Wars 2

Velron.3729:

No hit = no bars spent.

It IS a hit.

Any good group will have a mix of warriors and guardians. Endure pain sounds great, but its not the “oh kitten” button you might think it is. Ya you’re immune to direct damage, but you are not immune to conditions or cc. Personally I never take it.

Guardians have one of the best elites in the game for “oh kitten” moments. Its called renewed focus. Using it is a real invul, which warriors do not have. Shelter is also one of the best “oh kitten” healing skills around.

No no, guardians do not need anything more in this regard IMO. Stick some lyssa runes in your armor for a quadruple whammy all condi cleanse, all boon giving, invulnerable virtue recharge and tell me its not the bomb.

That said, any good group has a mix of guardians and warriors at the front laying the cc smackdown, but trust me, there is only one thing and one thing only guardians should be jealous of warriors for; mobility. That’s it.

Nikola.3841:

Its a stupid game mechanic…this MMO is strange in a way that it gives advantage to attackers

Agreed. And while I’m here may I say my inability to adequately shoot down from the battlements is also just wrong IMO.

Bump.

You know you want to get in on this swagtacular server. Do it. Do it do it.

JaNordy.6149:

SmoothHussler.6387:

I’d like to compliment FA and KN for their etiquette in the JP. Other than one mean thief, you have been pleasantly content on going about your business in peace.

Unlike those nasty TC folks. Would you believe they camped the JP last time?

The nerve.

Not sure if troll or not…. if not troll then get off our server right now. I am 100% serious.

How dare you. You’re probably one of those DARP I keep hearing about aren’t you?

I’d like to compliment FA and KN for their etiquette in the JP. Other than one mean thief, you have been pleasantly content on going about your business in peace.

Unlike those nasty TC folks. Would you believe they camped the JP last time?

The nerve.

My god anet what is your fascination with fire armor and weapons?!

The zenith and radiant stuff is good because its different. Please no more flame stuff!!!

Being a wvw oriented player I dont think anyone who plays primarily pve should be playing alone. Our server has several large wvw oriented guilds, but the vast majority of guilds are mostly about pve.

SandruDaniel.4386:

Hope Anet has plans to encourage people to get in guilds more

And this!

Warriors are punished for trying to get into range to do damage.

The meta appears to be aoe condition application and a class which needs to be 130 away to do its business has no place in this environment. Which is why the logbow is becoming the new warrior meta, and why the greatsword is slotted not for its cleaving dps but for its evade and movement.

Besides, whats the use of getting to your target only to have them blink or stealth away?

Necros aren’t competitive. They are offside. Way too much condition aoe pressure way too fast.

vorpal.1497:

Actually I dont think warriors are good in sPvP in a general sense. But this one aspect of heavily punishing enemies trying to rez, and getting your own members up, is something my warrior outperforms any of the other classes I’ve played so far.

You’ve never played engineer then.

Empathetic Fighter.2065:

So ya, its the players who are to blame.

Your ignorance is worth a medal.[/quote]

Thanks! I get its freightening and scary for you to discover this previously unknown fact that most of the people who play this game are kittens.

OP you’ll get better. I win some, loose some, and am still trying to figure out the nuances of each class. Though its sad to admit I kinda get excited when its another warrior. Play around with builds you might find one that works for you. I’m using mace/shield-gs but will try out a mace/shield-lb later.

Unfortunately anet has yet to really figure out how warriors can deal with the condition meta and the fact that many classes have too many escape mechanisms (blinks, stealth etc) which we as a melee class lack. I feel unless you’ve really put in some hours on warrior its difficult to understand how it sucks to have to be in 130 range for most of your high burst skills while other classes can kite you to death.

But I also think the warrior is the most balanced class in the game. No “OMG I win!” button or get out of jail free cards. When we spec for deeps, we are exposed defensively. When we spec for defence, we cannot kill anything. Finding a sweet spot is much more important on warrior IMO than it is on say, ele, which has so many ways for you to mitigate dmg from mistakes you make. Which is why you see eles etc as zerg divers and warriors as zerg surfers.

Ya the players are to blame for immediately falling over themselves to make a toon of the new op class. My necro has been sitting at 7lvl shy of 80 since a week a half. I could care less about pve stuff. Do whatever you want. I am speaking to the people who didnt know necro even existed until this patch and made them to bring into pvp or crafted leveled them in a day for wvw only because they’re on the op side in some aspects.

So ya, its the players who are to blame.

Sadly anet is only partly to blame for this. If people didnt act like douchbags and feel the need to roll the next op class and just played classes based on real interest, it wouldnt be such of a problem. So…in conclusion, its YOU the players who do this stuff.

I’d be careful about rolling the flavour of the month class. Necro is good fun, and if it genuinely interests you then do it, but I expect some of the more…unbalanced….aspects of it to get dealt with sooner or later.

Y’all need to chill out.

1v1?

Mace/shield-GS.

Shake it off. Stomp. Balanced stance. Runes of Lyssa. Swap out stomp for signet of stamina against condi heavy classes.

0-20-30-0-20

Furious reaction-forceful greatsword
shield master-missile deflection-sundering mace
mighty defences-signet mastery

I use sigil of paralyzation on mace and shield with sigil of rage on gs. Basically I have 3 stunbreaks and try to bait out theirs with the mace 3 and shield 4. When thats done I move into skull crack, then into 100b.

Heavy maulers (i.e. the cc train) lead the charge with support classes like eles close behind. Ranged classes like necros should be behind them.

So its not about rolling a guardian, its about where you want to be in le zerg.

urak.4863:

;_;

Not sure what to do when servers in our matchup constantly calls us a blob. What are we supposed to do? Keep track of the number of people in a zerg and decide to leave if it goes beyond a certain number? During SEA prime, SoS also rolls in a giant blob and wipes the TC group in every head-on collision, and easily outnumbers us 2:1, but you don’t see us coming here and QQ-ing about being outnumbered, etc. Why can’t you just play your best, more fights less whine? It’s ;_; to read about your wins/losses against superior numbers, over and over and over again….

Do what KH does on your server. They run their 10-15 man guild unit as their own ‘blob’.

^^ what he said.

Jon Sharp is a 6 signet warrior.

Why the kitten can’t use the kitten ed fireworks in wuvwuv?!?!

Bought 250 and got 2 tickets in the first 50 chests.

Total for 2 tickets: in excess of 1400.

Its the weapons. Warrior is the master of many weapons – the most in the game I believe – but most of the weapon skills are assinine especially in comparison to many other classes.

Anet needs to focus less on weapon damage and more on weapon utility. I take sword-focus on guardian for example not because of the deeps, but because of the teleport, blinds, blocks, projectile blocks AS WELL as the deeps.

I think if they refocused some of the weapon skills with utility in mind, they wouldnt have to radically redesign warrior utlities. The mace adjustments are a step in the right direction.

Cleansing ire is also a step in the right direction giving warriors more use of their line F1 skill. The F1 bar is also another reason why the warrior suffers. Looking at the ‘top’ classes they have lots of utility in those skills. Warrior had only 1, and some of them have been lackluster (gs….really i do not have a problem generating fury). Allowing us to supplement our lackluster condi clear with our F1 skill is along the lines of what we need.

But make it on cast and not on hit.

35 degrees celsius today here lads. Hot. Humid. I think I’ll cooldown with some mesmer tears. Thank you for thus thread.

EDIT: Oops just saw the under lvl 30 requirement. Oh well…

DanyK.3842:

Warriors are amazing but most people tend to play them wrong or misunderstand their purpose. I use my warrior for fast far pressure at the beginning of the game usually killing 1 or 2 people at far with ease then switching to close/mid roamer.

lol made my day man thanks for the laughs…

Good. Destroy it. Destroy more and bring this class down to earth. Enough already.

Congrats bro!

Please Anet do future content with such style as this one. And I do not necessarily mean film noir just something more interesting than the boring stiff talking head stuff you did for the personal story.

Used to be a male norn…before there were total makeover kits.

#Magswag

kitten

TGSlasher.1458:

Maybe Ben Zy should upgrade to the thief controller, of which I cannot find a pic.

You know the one, the one with the joystick and 1 button with Heart Strike on it.

15 chars///

lunyboy.8672:

I avoided P/S like the plague because it was the silliest sounding thing I could think of… until I tried it.

You get to see your shield and throw it, shoot your pistol and it doesn’t look as bad as I thought it would.

Shield. Oh how I loves me some shield. Reflect projectiles, push thieves out of shadow refuge, blocks and dazes. If you’re using toolkit, you’ve a ton of damage mitigation. Guardian runes give you burn on every block too. When u have that setup I purposely stand inside a warriors 100b and lol.

RaynStargaze.6510:

Especially in PvP theres like a flood of engis and bad ppl rerolling sooo not sure if u can still be proud of being HARDCORE UNDERGROUND!

Sure you can. Especially if you roll one outside of pvp in pve and especially in wvw.

I’m an engineer (and it is my favourite class) because its wacky and I love all the gadgets.

IcyTeaLemon.4610:

its not fair man. If one pistol will shoot then im gonna play with rifle or something. Its two hand and better damage than pistol. wth i didnt understand anything. Please someone explain this

Pistols generally are NOT about direct damage. They hit somewhere between a wet noodle and a pillow in this regard. Instead, use them in condition builds, or hybrids.

Look what you have at your disposal; bleeds, blind, confusion, burning (serious burning to!) and aoe immobilize.

If you want to spec for power, run rifle.

Engineer only has 3 weapons. Pistol, shield and rifle. The fun is in the kits!

I want to hear from guardians who run any of the tomes as elites in competitive play. Are they viable? I WANT to use these abilities, as renewed focus is great and all, but boring.

How do I properly use these tomes? I’m fearful of the lack of stability with them.

With the guild tower shield and mystic sword.

I’m new to the necro profession but I loves me my warhorn, though the cooldowns are quite long. Went dd at first, but like you I also had trouble with enfeebling blood.

On an aside, I believe many of the necro cooldowns are out of whack with the abilities.

Just take some screenshots of all the screen pollution that happens in game. Then look at them after. Then cry at how ridiculous it is.

Yes loosing target lock on an enemy is HUGE because getting it back is such a pain in the kitten with all the crap running around on screen. Its way too overboard in my opinion and personally I think anet needs to do something about it.

Arganthium.5638:

SmoothHussler.6387:

XII.9401:

As for the stealing boons being useless..does that count for the warrior 30 second elite: Fury, might, Swiftness? How about the long duration potion buffs by Engineers?

Am I missing something?

Signet of rage is a 48 second (traited) cooldown which can be stolen by a thief for 0 cooldown.

L2p though and all that good stuff…

Or don’t pull out the signet against a sword thief and then cry “OP” about it later? It’s like complaining that a necro killed your build that is full glass and runs practically no extra vitality.

Fair enough, but the point I was trying to make was that boons are kinda hard to make for certain professions and a skill which can be spammed over and over stealing them seems kinda unbalanced.

Perhaps its time thieves had mechanics to generate more of their own boons?

I thought of that at first but I sent him his gold back and he got it no problem. :-(

Deanie, thats almost exactly the build I was running. traited hammer with sword-warhorn (traited). I subbed out tactics for strength though. I suppose getting as much vigor-stability uptime in more important. So I might wanna try your suggestion next time.

Since we were not short on warriors I figured I’d give it a try. The only thing is the kitten ed cast time. Kinda means you’re sitting there for a second of two exposed.

But is it necassary to change all my trinkets? How well do banner regens scale with healing power?

#magswag

rogerwilko.6895:

necro healing support:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6pnXc_Rp3k

This is a very nice build if you’re running with warriors who usually want to be up close to the targets.

Would you consider changing weapon sets? Even with the retal reduction bow rangers are rofl for guardians.

Awesome video. I was watching and then all of a sudden BAM! Its raining bulls wtf lol

Ok, I never use em except in dungeons of fractals.

Would you guys say using them during guild vs guilds in pvp is a good move? Traited I mean. My thinking is that since most of these engagements stay confined to small sections near the windmills its better to bring them and their boons and regen than say, shouts which at most can affect 5 people.

I’d appreciate your opinions.

I’ve seen some really great warriors. Much much better than myself. I accept I’m an average pvp player. Several guildmates (Nihilo, Argis, Hua…name dropping yes I am) are VERY good too. I spectate them and some others I see around and they do really well.

But still, I think as a personal opinion that it demands a LOT of people playing warriors in this game, much moreso than some other classes. I feel much more survivable with a 2000 armor condi spec’d engi than I do with a 3100 armor shout condition cleansing warrior for instance. I think the skillcap for warrior is simply higher. But anet keep buffing damage. I don’t need more damage lol! I need some survivability and sustain. But I do love the new burst mastery and dogged march.

That said, I’ll give your suggestions a try OP, especially the sword-sword / sword-warhorn bleed tank one, since I’ve never tried it.