Guild Wars 2

So the guy wanted a challenge and went to the JQ of tier 3? lol

Swift.8506:

As a person who is viewing these events from outside of the guild – this statement is mostly false. I heard everything people were talking about on TS during that meeting as well as saw the posts on the EMP website. We play GW2 together a lot so you should not be surprised that I’ve overheard most of everything you guys were discussing.

You and Tiger cleared out the guild bank in order to start the upgrades/the foundation of the guild on DB. Also, looking at his roster right now – you do not have 80 EMP players with you. Please stop trying to make it sound like the grass is greener on your side.

Anyway, JQ is happy to have EMP stay here and I suppose that is what is most important to them. Good luck

P.S. If you would like me to jump on my roomie’s PC and take a screenshot of Raw’s thread stating EXACTLY what he said about why he’s leaving I can do that – however, that would be without honor. Please stop arguing nonsense.

lol sounds like these guys are top class!

I’ve been interrupted by imob. Just saying he’s not altogether offside in his claims.

Shout warrior: shake it off, for great justice, on my mark with shouts cure conditions and soldier runes. If you see a grenade kit engi, keep moving side to side as nades are not easy to hit on a moving target.
EDIT: And while chill and imob are technically conditions they gave cc effects for sure.

I will be watching…

EDIT: the quality is not good (of the stream…you’re playing well!).

I very much enjoy watching AoN’s videos. Alittle elitist for sure, but its clear they know their classes and how to choose the best place for them to make their stand. Their battlefield awarness is top class and their support for one another is ultimately their best asset IMO. They play the game as I think the devs imagined it should be played but is probably beyong most people.

5 man roaming squad they are the best in the business. Unbeatable? Probably not – no one is – but I think they have some things to teach many of us on how to compliment one another on the battlefield.

Calvin.5380:

SmoothHussler.6387:

Aeonblade.8709:

SmoothHussler.6387:

Calvin.5380:

Elano.2014:

SmoothHussler.6387:

DB is all numbers little substance.

And Mag is all excuses little skill.

I looked at this and laughed:
http://mos.millenium.org/servers/view/35/30

Despite having the biggest NA presence, Mags were hardly in lead during NA prime time until Tuesday when DB eased up a bit, victory within the tier assured.

Says a lot about the skill (or lack, thereof) of the elite Mag NA zerg

What biggest presence? Its even during NA times, when we dominate. Problem is if your asians arent on you THINK you’re outnumbered lol

Clearly has not seen WvW the past week, or the 80+ mag zerg wednesday at 1am EST in EB lol. DB is lucky to ever get that many people in the same BL during prime time, let alone all in one place.

The 2nd greatest myth of DB; they’re outnumbered during NA times (lie).

Like I said you just THINK you are. I never notice an outmanned buff on DB (Yaks yes). And I always see us leading the score.

So lets cut the kitten right now about you being outnumbered in NA. Its even. Only issue is when its even your tactics are face planting gates doesnt get it done like it does when its 100 Asians vs 10 defenders in the morning, so you believe you’re outnumbered to save some self respect.

Maybe you didn’t read the first page of this thread. Or maybe you enjoy posting without any basis. There are screenshots of our outmanned buff, and us being in lead at the same time.

Go ahead, ignore that as well.

Fight on brave DB soldiers in the face of such overwhelming odds!

Aeonblade.8709:

SmoothHussler.6387:

Calvin.5380:

Elano.2014:

SmoothHussler.6387:

DB is all numbers little substance.

And Mag is all excuses little skill.

I looked at this and laughed:
http://mos.millenium.org/servers/view/35/30

Despite having the biggest NA presence, Mags were hardly in lead during NA prime time until Tuesday when DB eased up a bit, victory within the tier assured.

Says a lot about the skill (or lack, thereof) of the elite Mag NA zerg

What biggest presence? Its even during NA times, when we dominate. Problem is if your asians arent on you THINK you’re outnumbered lol

Clearly has not seen WvW the past week, or the 80+ mag zerg wednesday at 1am EST in EB lol. DB is lucky to ever get that many people in the same BL during prime time, let alone all in one place.

The 2nd greatest myth of DB; they’re outnumbered during NA times (lie).

Like I said you just THINK you are. I never notice an outmanned buff on DB (Yaks yes). And I always see us leading the score.

So lets cut the kitten right now about you being outnumbered in NA. Its even. Only issue is when its even your tactics are face planting gates doesnt get it done like it does when its 100 Asians vs 10 defenders in the morning, so you believe you’re outnumbered to save some self respect.

Calvin.5380:

Elano.2014:

SmoothHussler.6387:

DB is all numbers little substance.

And Mag is all excuses little skill.

I looked at this and laughed:
http://mos.millenium.org/servers/view/35/30

Despite having the biggest NA presence, Mags were hardly in lead during NA prime time until Tuesday when DB eased up a bit, victory within the tier assured.

Says a lot about the skill (or lack, thereof) of the elite Mag NA zerg

What biggest presence? Its even during NA times, when we dominate. Problem is if your asians arent on you THINK you’re outnumbered lol

DB is all numbers little substance.

Ketharius.9018:

Stay strong, Dragonbrand, don’t let Maguuma get to you.

Be wary friend. If your server-mates see you speaking in a language other than your native elvish they will cast ye out of the realm.

Prices have been soaring the last 2 weeks or so.
Are they the new black or has condition mitigation suddenly become super important?

Calvin.5380:

SmoothHussler.6387:

Calvin.5380:

Funny to see Maggies complain about PvF and in-game losses. Don’t lose heart, friends. When you move back to tier 4, you’ll be able to run your Karma trains again.

What the kitten are you on about? We’re not loosing 2nd to Yaks.

If points told the whole story, we wouldn’t have had 9 pages of fun on this thread, right?

I’m just saying that if Yak’s had an NA presence as strong as Mags, they’d have been in reckoning for the 7th place, and not barely achieve 8th like Mags.

If.

Calvin.5380:

Funny to see Maggies complain about PvF and in-game losses. Don’t lose heart, friends. When you move back to tier 4, you’ll be able to run your Karma trains again.

What the kitten are you on about? We’re not loosing 2nd to Yaks.

300 melee range lol

Stealth.9324:

Ha ha. I will take your sarcasm NOT seriously. I don’t think Anet intended ELes to be front line battle, if we do, WAR will no longer exist.. (No offence to all good War out there, I love you guys )

As an aside, in wvw, eles are indeed frontline units. Right at the front of the zerg. Despite the low health pool and light armor. Warriors….oh no. Certainly no. There are a few builds that can manage, but the heavy damage dealers are forced to surf the zerg in most cases while eles zip around wherever and whenever they please because of the heals and escapes.

I will say that I dont think anet wanted this situation, nonetheless it is what it is. The light armor wearing casters are frontline troops, while the heavies are zergfood (guardians not included of course…they’re a farily balanced class).

Stealth.9324:

“Guys” has no intention of learning or adapting,instead QQ, has no right to speak all of that.

Oh I can adapt. What else can I do? As I said it is what it is. But I urge you to play a warrior – I mean REALLY play one – to see that you’re the one QQing.

SniffyCube.6107:

Ah, my first PVP is Thief. And yes, it also a waste of time for me to talk to “a rock”, please leave then.

Guy opens a thread asking about opinions then tells anyone that doesn’t share his opinion to “leave” … and then calls others closed-minded… lol

“Guy” has no intention of facing the fact that there is a real reason most top players roll eles. “Guy” didnt open this thread to see what other people think. “Guy” only did it to have a pulpet to preach his ‘poor eles’ sermon.

Stealth.9324:

Thanks for the opinion, we are willing to go closer IF you decide to give us HEAVY ARMOR, 19K HEALTH POOL to Start with.

Poor thing. It must be rough. I mean, eles being so weak and all. Its not like they’re a frontline profession or anything right?

/sarcasm

Being an Eles, a class that has LOWEST Hp Pool as well as LOWEST Toughness, plus being FORCED into MELEE, how can we stand a chance with all other melee class?

I would tell you why people know it to be a fact that eles are the op masters of this game, but really after reading your opening I figure why bother. I mean, someone who brings up how eles have the ‘lowest toughness’ and ‘hp pool’ is beating a dead drum. As if we’re not aware that your healing, condition cleanse and dmg midigation is the best in the game – making that low toughness and health a non issue.

But the funniest (and saddest) part is where you mention melee (caps lock no less!).

300 is NOT melee. Roll a warrior. See what it is to have to be within 130 from your enemy and come back and tell me again how 300 is melee range.

lol

Its funny how Anet has been so quick to eliminate hard found engineer builds, yet so slow in doing to same to some of the seriously overpowered classes in the game (eles, mesmers).

I mean the only conclusion I can draw from this is that engineers (and warriors and rangers) arent meant to be in the higher tiers of professions while eles and mesmers are.

With eles and mesmers being where they are, talk of nerfing engis is just fail…

If I had the choice of which conditions I would cleanse first (depending on which toon I’m playing on of course) burning and chill would be miles ahead of confusion.

But thats just me.

Entropy.4732:

So now you want to nerf all crit damage too for every class? Out of curiosity, oh crusader against confusion, what class do you main? I’m willing to bet thief. Thieves hate Mesmers because we are their natural predator. Thieves like to go unchecked and kill at will. Confusion messes up their light speed combos. Thus the resentment.

I think this sums up alot of it to be honest. Confusion is a natural thief counter for sure.

Nerf engineers? lulz

Very nice. Good support build.

Confusion and retaliation are the Guild Wars equivalent of thr adolescent favourite “stop hitting yourself”.

Kichwas.7152:

That’s foolish.

I do well being frontline control, first in last out, in both classes.

For both I am using 20/0/30/20/0, Hammer on both.
My Warrior uses a rifle as off weapon (considering longbow, need to test this).

You dont have a warhorn or mobile strikes. First one in maybe, but you’re not going anywhere without one of those in the mix sorry.

MAGRUBMAAAAAAAAAA!

^^ Chuck Norris approves of this post.

Gamadorn.2659:

I guess it sucks to know that when DB guilds NA and SEA put their game face on…you guys can’t compete in any timezone, including reset or N/A primetime..but seriously great job this weekend..

If by game-face you mean ultra super mega zergs, then…yes.

Sokar Rostau.7316:

This stupid forum logged me out while posting and ate my post.

1. Each server gets their own borderland that reflects that server’s name. Dragonbrand actually is in the Dragonbrand, Maguuma actually is in the Maguuma jungle. These are released over a period of eight months to cover the eight tiers.

Very very good idea. I would love if this were implemented. Would make defending your BL much more rewarding and personal.

lani.7431:

Dragonbrand fights together not as one guild. Please do not misunderstand when anyone says “us” it means our whole server.

Can I get a WHOA BUNDY?

Also, no guild names, but the perma stealth/cloak and dagger thief from DB who took joy laughing at a group of us chasing him for 20 minutes around bl; we had fun too. Especially the part where when u were caught and downed you disconnected. Very classy.

Oh no, we found a team utility warriors can bring to the table in WvW. Quick, nerf it before the sun explodes and it begins raining blood.

So if anyone needs a group for this I could also use the help. Msg me if interested.

MeveM.7913:

This bit is hilarious. Warrior trait gives 10% movement speed? Well that’s in and out of combat. Ranged get 25% OUT of combat. Hit them with anything and you run 10% faster than they do. Don’t see the problem, you get them in combat, use GS 5 ability, boom, up close and personal, you now run 10% faster than they do and should not be able to get away from you unless they slow you and dodge away etc, by which time you can whirlwind or charge to them yet again.

Just so I understand this, you actually trait Furious Speed?

Pinko.2076:

I know for a fact higher tier, well funded servers have offered to cover all of NNK transfer fees, and they would get a much larger community to play against. That’s why I ask why they choose this over actual WvW.

Because actual opposition sucks for them?

Avlis rocks. Love his videos. Don’t know how he doesnt get destroyed by conditions though, I have a real problem with them. Especially considering he saves Shake it Off for stun break only.

I had skill lag on reset night, since then its been ok. That said a dx11 update to this game cant come fast enough. I have no idea how tiers 1 and 2 do it since it must be like reset night every night over there.

lani.7431:

P.S. I am very disappointed on the sportsmanship side. I rolled around in deer form on Yaks BL with a few friends and found alot of hostile Maguma and Benders. To the ones that didn’t kill me and hung out with us thanks for the entertainment. Loved sitting in Yak’s Garrison while some Maguma capped it cept most weren’t that friendly only a couple.

Yes I saw you in northwest camp with my guardian guildie. I felt bad for killing you as I didn’t know whether you were just kidding around or trolling. Apologies. If I see a deer – a female deer, ill be sure to wave and pass.

Wreakin.6854:

Maguuma should really cry more about not having “numbers”. I’m sure it makes them feel better.

You must have a reading comprehension problem it seems. I dont think anyone from Mag here is crying about overall numbers vis a vis DB. The fact of the matter is Mag is a NA server and as such its prime time in during evenings EST during which time I have yet to see us not in control.

The issue is that when all of NA is either sleeping or going off to work, your oceanic presence is going player vs gate bonkers in empty bls.

Shnozy.5938:

Weird, people complaining about DB outnumbering them. When I play, unless im with my guild we have always been outnumbered. It just matters when you play. It goes in waves. Last night mags were outnumbering us easy….stop complaining and just play

I dont think anyone is saying DB outnumbers everyone, its just that the asian prescence means when everyone is sleeping/getting up for work or school, DB is running around empty borderlands taking everything.

I dont understand what those asian guilds are even doing on NA servers to be honest, but whatever.

The longer a thief stays around the closer to dying he will be. Try to time your crippled and imobs (leg specialist trait is a thief killer) for when you think he’s about to stealth and let him have it. The hammer as mentioned is a great weapon for thieves, but stun-eviscerate on axe is better IMO. The ones who are smart will run from a 2v1, and if they don’t, better for you. I run gs/axe-shield and have 3 ways to stop thieves in their tracks (gs4, axe3-4). 1 I always save for when I think they’re getting ready to stealth. I also have the shield stance button ready if they’re stealthed for the inevitable burst from stealth they do. If you’re low on health, dodge those heartseekers.

Thieves are only an issue when they’re 3rd man in or on the periphary of a zerg and catch you out of position low on health. They thrive on the 2 spam, so beware.

Superior runes of Melandru are at least double the price they were last week when I was thinking about buying a set.

So it doesnt apply itself for the duration of the chill?

To that human female thief from the Cof guild on CD who insisted on solo DPSing the gate to CD overwatch on EB early this morning….god bless you! You applied 25x stacks of confusion to me with this as you kept coming back even after getting stomped 12 times.

Thanks for the video Inmortis. Its nice to see someone experimenting with new ways of going about things since many people here (me included) just complain.

As a matter of fact I was harping on and on at work to my guardian buddy about how bad the warrior can be in wvw. lol they have it so good they really have no idead those guardians….

That’s fine Fiorrello. You can continue playing the abused girlfriend then.

Take it out, replace it with a pull.

Why do I need another weapon when I have so many broken mechanics vis a vis other classes?

Valkyriez.6578:

How is 1 extra second to channel a skill every minute destroying a class completely?

Because now we cant land the 100b and have 1 more second of taking 50% more damage. Not to mention if we’re popping it to rush away from combat our distance covered is actually less than without it, only now rush is all cooldown.

Master Charles.7093:

Sure warriors aren’t as good at their ‘one trick’ now (the one where they run up to you like a crack head with A.D.D. and try to blaze you down in 2 seconds), but seriously…

… it’s lame that that is all they can do (or all that anyone wants to do with them) in the first place. Too bad the rest of their tools are sub-par, but that’s no excuse to leave this bunk multiplier as was.

So give us other tools to work with! You think we’re all super psyched about having to include the gs in our builds because we think its super awesome?

Asomal.6453:

wookie.8934:

Asomal.6453:

1. Blurred Frenzy, most OP skill I have ever seen. 2 seconds of invulnerability on a 10 second cooldown, wtf? What other class has 2 seconds of invulnerability on a 10s cooldown? I’m not even considering the extra burst.
2. Ilusionary Leap, while technically not a stun break can basically nullify the effects of immobilize or snare or freeze. On a 12 second cooldown.

Both are hilariously easy to avoid. L2 kitten ue.

Bet you play one of them :^)
If not, why don’t you try to avoid them as a warrior? Go on

I main a warrior and fighting mesmers is just….ugh. Even with a hammer cc build I can’t lock down a decent mesmer. Sometimes I feel as if they’re playing me with, making a sandwich or minimized screen while they paying their bills online. Its almost like they can simply autoplay.

Its all the more painful in that every patch seems to add yet another buff for mesmers and a nerf for warriors. They have stealth, clones, invulnerability, crazy confusion stacks, range. Just too much for me. I don’t claim to be anything other than an average player, but mesmers just bring to much to the table for me to handle. A CD mesmer was literally toying with 3 of us earlier in wvw. I get the L2P and have began to understand what thieves and eles do and are capable of, but man I just feel like I’m naked without the tools to battle a mesmer at the moment.

I think the warrior isnt as far away from being viable as some would think. The engineer for instance is much more of a kitten class.

That said they’ve done banners this patch, next one I hope they can focus on some other aspects. Including reducing dmg taken on frenzy.