Guild Wars 2

Well no laptop can really handle GW2 at max, not WvW /LA/large dynamic events anyway.
PvE will be fine however.
Bassicaly anywhere in GW2 where u can expect the CPU to be stressed, thats where FPS will be lower than ur Desktop (asuming ur desktop has a strong Intel CPU)

laptop cpu’s run at a slower clock when more of its cores are in use, this is to reduce heat and power usuage mainly. Becouse of this GW2 is a game that shows a disadvantage on laptops over desktops. Hence why i pointed out those laptops that use desktop CPU’s.

if ur really not gunan haul it around wiht u and simply want a laptop for its easy of transportation to ur Uni accomodation then i highley recommened looking into building a Mid range LAN gaming Desktop.
Find a Desktop case that is M-ITX compatable. These are small.
Then get ahold of a Asus M-ITX perfomance motherboard.
Stick a normal desktop CPU in, a cheap AMD grpahics card like a 7870XT or 7950.
Some RAM and the usual parts.
Then find some slim line compact portable keyboard and a micro laptop style mouse. And finaly a Monitor that is to ur likeing.
Bundle that into a large backback/travelbag/rucksack, and its as portable as it needs to be for such a journey.
And most importantly, it will be cheaper (or same price) and more powerfull than any Laptop u can get.

EDIT: infact if u buy the Asus M-ITX motherboard using the same chipset as ur main Desktop at home, u could simply then transfer over most the components from ur home desktop rig into the smaller case/motherboard and save LOADS of money in the process. This is asuming ur home desktop will be not in use whilst ur gone and ofc that ur rig is easily dissasembled (i.e it doesnt have a custom water loop).

Op

Its normal. technicaly its a performance issue, but its more on Anet head than the user.
GW2 runs a game engine that just cant handle what it is being asked to do. The best you can do client side is have a monster rig, using a OC’d intel CPU. but even then u wont get what most would call ‘acceptable’ fps for the specs of said rig.

Thats pritty much what u can expect for that price range.
Its a pitty you cant stretch to ~$2000.
The SAGER NP9570 is a BEAST.
Now im from the Uk myself and tbh i cant find somwhere over here that sells the kitten thing, nor can i find a place that builds laptops with the main selling point that laptop has..that bing the LGA 2011 Desktop CPU chipset.

Ah ok as i was writing this i finaly found it.
PCspecialist had it listed wrong. it said 3rd gen CPu’s so i didnt bother checking however i found a forum post commenting on the @omega’ laptop so i took a look. it actualy uses the CPU’s im on about , they are infact 2nd gen but the selling point is they are Desktop CPU’s ..so now downclocking when using multiple cores like mobile CPU’s do
http://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/notebooks/omegaII/
its over your budget ..way over ..but its food for thought.
The annoying thing is the websites iv found over here in the Uk that have this model available to customize limit you to having SLI GPU’s which hikesu p the price. Atleats the US company i know of allows a single GPU allowing the price to sit at $2000.
http://www.xoticpc.com/sager-np9570-clevo-p570wm-p-3595.html

One question though. are you likely to haul this laptop wiht you into lessons/seminars ?
If your answere is no, then you should look into building a LAN gaming PC. they are much smalelr than ur regular Desktop and thus shouldnt provide any issues with transporting it to your Uni, and they can provide more gaming performance than a laptop of a simular price. However u cant obviosly go bringing the rig into ur lessons lol.

Hmm although there may be way to fix it(which i dont know atm), i have to conceed that even if there wasnt a graphical problem. There would highley likely be a performance one.

GW2 struggles to have good FPS in LA and WvW even on the best modern CPU,s ur running an almost ancient Pentium 4 Dual Core.

Its not normal i overlook system specs, i mean i did look at the DXDiag but for some reason completly overlooked the age of ur system. I mean ur GPU only has 256mb of VRAm ..thats crazy nowerdays.

My advice would be, and this would be the same even if u didnt have this problem, buy new rig. You can forget upgrading, u just need a whole new rig.

For you normal everyday FPS game or other such simular GPU bound games then yes that is true ..however.

GW2 realy needs strong CPU, an i5 will do in 95% of cases, however it needs ot be a fast i5.
I cant recall how much that laptop costs specificaly, but if u truly want the best u can get for a laptop ur looking at around $2000, and make no mistake, to be able to play GW2 WvW , you are indeed asking for the best laptop u can get.

The best cpu u can get for a laptop is infact a desktop 3820 i7 CPU (infact u can get a 3930k/3960x/3970x aswell but they cost ALOT). But these only come in a select few laptops and they all cost around $2000.
Your other choice is to get a normal laptop CPu which wont be as fast but u can get them in cheaper laptops. A CPU like the 4700HQ and a 750m GPU is what u would be looking at fpor around $1000 push a little furthero r change around some specs and u could get the same CPU with a 760m GPU.
Though tbh if it was my money i would push and get a SAGER NP9570.
http://www.xoticpc.com/custom-gaming-laptops-notebooks-gaming-laptops-ct-118_96_98.html
customize that laptop and you would have a monster gaming laptop. And it would do ‘almost’ as well as a normal desktop for GW2, i say almsot becouse you cant really oc that laptop despite it having a desktop CPU (cooling).

Yes. Any space in the Phatom 410 that has room for 2x 120mm fans will fit the H100i rad.
I beleve the 410 has room in the top for 2 fans and thus thats where the rad would sit with 2 fans on it. Maybe 4 in push pul lconfig if u have room.

http://www.vortez.net/articles_pages/nzxt_phantom_410_review,9.html

Read the bit about the rad.
A thin rad like the h100i has would fit.

Yea a H100i for a Ivy bridge is great. But haswell is hotter, for example a h100i will strugle at keeping at 4770k cool at around 4.5ghz depending on the voltage required.

By strugle i mean it will likely hit 80c under full load.

http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/high_end_gpus.html

A simple chart hierachy of where each GPU comes.
It wont give u game performance or FPS figures, but it wil latleats show u were ur GPU, or GPu ur looking at , stands vs others.

Hmm ok nevermind, seems AMD dont have AO option in their CCC.

Galandor.

Drill through the wall in the bottom corner by the scurtingboard. thats how my house has all the upstairs rooms with network wired. Do it somwhere where you have a unit or some sort, so its hidden.
And you can buy long network cables for cheap.
but if u must then i guess wireless is the only option.
If u ever have a signal problem, look into plug boosters. (homeplug/powerline)
Bassicaly u plug the main unit into a plug next to the modem/router, and connect it by network cable like normal.
The data uses the wires in the house plug system. A seperate wireless plug unit plugs into a plug in the room ur rig is, u then use a normal wireless reciever on ur PC to recive it from the signal transmited from the plug unit. Again i have these in my house for use with laptops and such. The ones i have are done by Solwise.

Even if ur not OCing, a 212 Evo is a good choice, the stock coolers that come with the cpu’s are rather naff tbh.
If u did decide to OC, then the 212 Evo will be enough for a small OC, but haswell (4670k and 4770k) are REALLY hot running CPU’s when OC’d so u would want some top end air cooling (like NH-D14 or SilverArrow) or a Corsair H100i AIO water cooler or somthing simular to properly OC.

Ok i havnt used a AMD grpahics card for many years so i dont know my way aroudn the CCC.
Check under Display option and Display manager see if u can find it in there.

An intel rig is indeed the best way to go. if u do get the K edition ..or even if u dont .. u will want a aftermarket cooler. the Evo 212 is a good cheap choice.
Try get a 660 Ti, the normal 660 is ok, but the 660 ti is a better buy. Alternativly u could get a AMD GPU like the 7950 which since u seem to be on a tight budget might be better for you.

8gb RAm vs 16gb RAM has absolutly 0 performance influence. RAM ‘amount’ dictates ur ability to do high level multitasking and other RAM intensive actions. not gaming.
RAM ‘speed’ matters more. try get 1866mhz or high. 1600mhz is the standard but you can get faster RAM rather cheaply nowerdays.

Aim for a 650W Powersupply.

Also note that u dont need a network card or a sound card. (some peopel make this mistake), both are already included onboard the motherboard.

650w is enough for a haswell bassed rig (haswell is the architecture name of the CPU you have selected, they are really power efficient)
You DONT need a dedicated soundcard, onboard is fine. You only get a dedicated sound card if ur a audiophile/have a really good sound system to support
You DONT need a newtowrk card, the motherboard has one onboard. Though it is wired. Wired is best anyway, and tbh it isnt hard to route a network lead around the house if need be. I got my own wire coming from the back room ,where the modem/route is bassed, up into the upstars backroom (through the floor) where my rig is.

If you can, try get 1866 or 2133 or 2400 mhz RAM. RAM is now available in much faster speeds and so the lower speeds have gotten cheaper. 1600mhz is standard but you can get faster ones now for a good price. Also CPU’s nowerdays love fast speeds over tight timings so a CL10 or CL 2400mhz RAM kit will be MUCH better than a CL8 or CL9 1600mhz kit. How much that affects game performance is arguable, it wont be much, but for other processes it will help.

See if u can get samsungs new 840 Evo SSD, it has the perfomance of a 840 Pro for a cheaper price.

I gave up looking up each individual CPU specs a while back, i just take an educated guess. :P

woah. thats a new one.
Ok thats artifacts.
its a general term for any kind of graphical glitches or bugs that are not necessarily part of the game.
Hard to tell but the ‘stain/artifact’ on that image, Does it apear and stick on screen till another one appers??. It reminds me of what happens when u have incorrect Ambient Occulsion being used, it can create darker areas of shadowed textures for a deeper image but when using the wrong type it can ‘stick’ on the screen and overlay on the image beneeth as the image moves, untill it refreshes and happens again.
…..hard to explain.

Check ur Ambient Occulsion settings (AO) in Catalyst Control Center. Turn them off / set to application controlled.

If ur running a 4 core CPU like a FX4k series or an intel i5, this is normal. Its just that you have only just released/seen/have entered a situation where CPU usuage maxes out. and/or Anet have introduced a patch / event that has higher CPU usage.

My own 12 thread CPU can reach up to 60 % in very extreme situations, if u were playing GW2 when the karka invaded LA, that was one such situation.
60% total usuage over 12 threas = 7 full threads(if u condensed all the procesess down). Meaning an i5 /FX4k cpu with only 4 threads would be maxed out.
And even in less extreme situations at 40 or 50% usuage that still 5-6 threads.

It doesnt happen often, so ether deal with it or buy a better CPU. As bad/harsh as it sounds…theres no point waiting for Anet to ‘fix’ the optimisation issues that GW2 has becouse they are unlikely to ever come.

Yes u can ‘run’ GW2. But playability will only be ok in PvE / low population areas. Expect Busy LA and WvW battles to be a slide show. Even at 2.5ghz a Gen1 i series laptop CPU will not handle WvW. Infact no laptop CPU can … Top end OC’ed desktop CPU’s barely can :P

Vertical Sync stops screen tearing.

However as many people seem to miss-use the word ‘tearing’ and instead mean ‘artifacts’ it would be benefical to attach a screenshot of ur issue to make sure we are all talking about the same problem.

Check ur windows update history. if you had updates 2 days ago then unistall them and try GW2 again.

Lol, i couldnt imagin a PC gamer making that mistake, but in this day in age i cant say im surprised.

No offense but it is a silly mistake. Its a mistake non the less and every1 can make a mistake so yea.
EDIT: below is directed to bassicaly anyone/everyone
Do make sure you know atleast the basics about how a computer works if ur gunna game on one. Which port to use to plug ur VDU in is one such basic bit of knowledge

Game settings alone mean precisely kitten, without the specs of the machine its running on.
CPU Model and Clock speed.
GPU: Model / PCI-E speed
RAM: Speed & Command Rate
PSU: Make/Model & Wattage.
OS: Xp? Vista? 7 ? 8 ? , and is it 64bit or 32bit?

I disagree with Maze.

If ur in WvW then Character Limit : highest, is more important, Character Model/texture Limit: medium.

PvE: try character limit Medium. With Texture limit/model quality: High.

Aye that is the downside to the Avexir RAM, it runs at 1.65, i think it may be for the lights. Though a good motherboard wont have an issue with that, only really cheap motherboards wont like running at 1.65v.
Its 1.65v even for 1866mhz so no reason not to go higher, specialy when the 2133mhz ones are cheaper than the 1866mhz G.Skill/Corsair ones.
When it comes ot RAM its pirtty much personal preference so long as you have atleast 1600mhz and CL9 or better. So what ever, i just chose them becouse they really do look good, your other choice is the more expensive Corsair platinum + a platinum red light strip. much more expensive tbh, or just get red G.Skill RAM with no lights.

I agree that the extra fans are not particularly neccesery, but 1 extra wont hurt tbh, i would stick it in the bottom of the case as intake, as many casses come with neutral or negative presure, and u really want positive to keep dust out. (more intakes than exhaust)

If ur not gunna have a case with a window u need not worry about how it looks tbh.
IMO you should get a window’d case.
I’ve had a Thermaltake case b4 (Chaser Mk-I), infact it was only a couple months ago that i replaced it after having it for just 6 months. The main reason being the ‘feel’ of the case. It lacks a quality look. The black plastics didnt match the black metals in terms of color, it looked more grey on black.
I would advise, though more expensive, a Corsair 600T(comes in black, or silver, or white, make sure to get one with the side window) or a CoolerMaster Storm Trooper (same as the Stryker that i have except its black) The Trooper is a Full ATX tower though so tis big. The 600T is a mid tower so is likely more the size ur after.

Im not saying Thermaltake are bad casses, they have great airflow and have the fans and features u expect, but imo they just dont look quality.

The PSU is overkill for a single card system with a Ivy/haswell CPU, however its always nice to have a PSU that doesnt need to to ramp up its fans, also allows future use of the PSU with a bigger system, so if ur OK spending that much on thr PSU, leave it as is.

The non k editions can go higher on multiplier, by 3x i think it is. Combined with a base clock change u can get nice OC’s.

But even so ur point stands. Get the K version for easier and higher OC’s.

If ur using a AIO water cooler, thenur gunan be able to see ur RAM, why not save a little money and make things look cool whislt ur at it. Take a gander at AVEXIR Core Series 1866mhz or2133mhz ram.
The ASrock board looks a bit dreary, why not take a gander at a Z77A-G45 Gaming, match it up with the above RAm with the RED LED’s and go for a RED and Black theme.
Even when on a budget you can build an astheticaly pleasing rig

GPU wise a 760 is a good choice, its also about $50 cheaper than a 670, on the looks department see if u can find one to match. Like the Red and black theme of the equaly good Asus DCU2 or the MSI Gaming.
Red & Black motherboard, RAM, and GPU + The Case u chose which is Red and Black. With the black AIO Corsair cooler. ..Nice looking, with performance to match.

Here

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1y7QZ

Took of the soundcard, the MSI gaming board has a better than usual onboard sound. Unless ur an audiophile u dont need a standalone card, and if u do, u would want one betetr than the one u listed.
The RAM listed are blue, but where ever u end up buying from should have the other colors available aswell, RED being one of them.
Removed the LAN card, again , dont need it, the motherboard has great onboard LAN.
The motherboard is a step up from the one i recommended above but i noticed the ASrock one u originaly listed had 4 Sata 6 ports, so i matched the specs.

In the end u still save money, have pritty much the same performance, whilst ‘looking’ significantly more bad*ss.

I wouldnt bother upgrading from a 580 to somthing else unless it was 780/Titan level performance.
I went from a 560ti to a 780 and its about 2.5 times the power/performance.
I run GW2 at 3200×1800 downsample resolution. Max on all setitngs except reflections which is on terrain and Sky due to the ‘all’ setitng bug. And i have SuperSampling ON.

When the game engine isnt crippling itself trying to run WvW or a busy LA, i easily cap out 60 FPS and stay there with the GPU around 60-70% usuage.

There is a rather large performance gap between the 770 and 780, so if u can, realyl do try get the 780 atleast. Its well worth it.

Take it from som1 who knows. Get a 780. Even better get a Classified or a Lightning. they use custom PCB’s and can attain muc better OC’s. My one runs at 1254mhz on the core at 1.175v and 7200mhz memory clock. And i havnt even found the limitso f the memory clock yet .on Air ofc.

Other than that i might sugest getting a 3770k instead of a 4770k if ur using a AIO water cooler. Even a H100i will have difficulty with a 4770k if the voltage is even close to 1.2v. A 3770k however shouldnt be a problem.
now if u were to buidl ur own custom water loop, THEN a 4770k would be ok

Oh and if u r thinking of SLI’ing a 780 or Titan, depending on how much juice ur CPU eats u may need more than 850w PSU. Though on a Ivybridge or Haswell CPU you should be fine.

RAM, 2133mhz is fine (try get CL9) though if ur gunna use RAMDISK’s u will want 32gb. 16gb is enough for small ramsdisks but putitng a whole game into it will requir 32gb.

HOWEVER.
This is GW2, GW2 has the worst optimised game engine ,for what it is being asked to do, i have seen in a long time. Even with a system like mine LA can be 30-35fps when busy and WvW can get as low as 20 FPS. When the game engine isnt breaking its own back a single 780 is more than enough graphicaly.

I run GW2 with the below settings.
Res:3200×1800 Downsample.
Max settings on all except Reflections (terrain and Sky) ‘all’ is bugged.
Supersampling: ON
Everything else on.
Culling: Charatcer Limit Highest, Texture Limit Medium.

EDIT: Please note, the link in the post above. That system is using a 3960X processor which is also OC’ed. Like my own 3930k these Sandy-E CPU’s are HUGE power hogs, nothing at all like the Ivy and haswell chips that sip power in comparison. Even so, u dont want ur PSU running high usuage all the itme so the point stands. Allocate 300w per 780 + what ever ur CPU uses, then add some extra for buffer, then make a decission on PSU. As i said though..850w should be fine for a haswell or ivy system with SLI 780’s/Titans.

In a word. No.

But if u dont mind low fps it will run GW2.

Oculatus.7536

Yes the system is a “bit” over the top for GW2, but new games are being released, games like B4. But on the other hand, I work as a IT-Manager and Design Engineer at a boat construction yard, and because I am a single parent for 3 kids, I often work home, and need top-notch equipment home as well, that’s why I buy a new computer every year, and company pays. And I use alot of heavy programs, Inventor, Ansys, 3DS Max and Photoshop.
Yes there is ofc cheaper options with almost the same performance, but as long as I don’t pay myself, I don’t really care.

Ah ok, a system like that using the programs you use and ofc it being payed for by a 3rd party ..it makes more sense. Even so, if i were you i still woulda got them to pay for a custom water loop :P Even if it meant just changing down to a 3930k. Just one ofthe changes, like the CPU ..or the GPU’s would have given enough money back to pay for the water loop. No harm done though if ur running at stock for computing purposes mainly.

I cant help but think that system is a ‘i wish i had this system’ not a ‘i actally have this system’ becouse it really doesnt make sense unless ur swimming in money.

3960x and the 3970x are totaly ott and unneccery. 3930k is just as good for half he price.
2 Titans…, 2 780’s just as good, half the price.
32gb RAM, wasted unless ur a heavy heavy heavy multitasker, renderer.
The mad catz strike 7 is an incredibly pricey, over enginneered, NON mechanical LCd keyboard. An enthusiats gamer with a system like that would have a mechanical keyboard.
All that money in that rig and its on a AIO water cooler. .really ? That system should be under a custom loop.

If u really do have that system then great good for you…really i mean it. But kitten thats alot of burnt cash there :P
The money saved from getitng 2 780’s instead of 2 titans, a 3930k instead of a 3970x, and a mechanical keyboard instead of the strike 7 .. could easily payed for a custom water loop so u could OC and obliterate the performance of that listed system. 2 780’s on a custom loop OC wipes the floor with 2 air cooled titans, same goes for a 3930k vs a 3970x on a AIO cooler.

Anyway yea.. offtopic but i had to say somthing, the money in that rig could do soo much more.

I run at 3200×1800 downsampling(downsampling is what the above poster is discribing how to do). It works fine. The only thing i will say is the UI even on its largest settings is rather small. So chances are when the 4k monitors are more readily available Anet may need to add an extra setting for even larger UI.
I would try 4k downsampling but im using a single hdmi and 3200×1800 is the highest my hdmi cable will take, even 1 pixel higher and i just get a black screen with a sliver of picture at the top.

I will say this however, if ur going 4k, make sure ur graphics card has enough VRAM.
I tested Crysis 3 at some crazy settings 2day to test my 780 Memory OC.
3200×1800 max settings AND 8x MSAA just about maxed out my VRAM at 3gb. At proper 4k(3820×2160) that would be even higher. But obviosly in proper day to day use with a proper 4k screen, u would not need 8x MSAA, infact u proably wouldnt need any, at most 2x would be enough, so 3gb VRAM should be enough.

Check ur GPU usuage.
A standard 660 i would think would struggle with ultra settings (im asuming u have Supersampling on aswell). If ur on native sampling then a 660 should be ok.

only advice i can give u is to turn reflections to Terrain and Sky ..or off completly, they are kinda bugged when on ‘all’ and will hit performance hard.

That said, even a rig like my own gets around 35-60 FPS in LA now with the culling of, and WvW can be anywhere from 25-60 depending on the size of the Zerg.

3200×1800 downsample resolution, all settings max except reflections (T&S) with Supersampling on. Culling settings at CharacterLimit Highest and texture limit Medium.

The game engine is the limiting factor. Granted ur using an AMD cpu which isnt helping (due to slower single thread performance vs Intel), but tht doesnt forgive the game engines poor performancein general.

An i5 will max out in WvW and LA, yes. So an i7 will show a little performance increase as it wont max out the entire CPU thanks to HT.
However in the casses were a single thread maxes out and slows the rest of the processes (which happens alot) an i7 wont help.
Ocing does help a little, but eventualy u hit a point where even if u have a OC’d i7, the game engine itself cant run any faster, so u wont have a maxedo ut thread or maxed out overall usuage, but you will have maxed out the game engine itself. This happens alot for myself, where i see no CPU thread maxed out and yet the game chugs along under 60fps.

Ill give u a bit of good news though. All games that start development and/or use game engines developed from mid 2014 onwards ‘should’ be 8 core/thread optimised.
Why? becouse the new consols (PS3 and Xbone) use 8 core cpu’s. Each core is very weak on their own, thus thread optimisation is a MUST for any games released for these consols. And as we know, many games nowerdays are consol ports. It also means the newer game engines will also be thread optimised and so any MMO that uses such a engine will run alot better than GW2’s shoddy excuse for a game engine.

Upgrades from your current spec will show little improvment.

Change ur WvW culling options .

Set character limit to highest and texture limit to medium or Low.

Even a rig like my own u can only expect the minimum fps to it low 20’s.
And the price difference between a rig like urs and mine is huge, all that for 5 fps isnt worth it.

A single 780 can handle a massive resolution of 3200×1800 with max grpahics setitng including Supersampling. So u dont need more than 1 780 for GW2.
CPU wise u cant get much better than 3930k atm (from an overall performance standpoint unless u go mad and get extree editions for an extra 100mhz) and for pure single thread performance a 4770k at the same clock (which is hard due to heat) would only be slightly better than a 3930k for gaming.

So if ur running a 3770k,4770k, 2600k,2700k, 3930k, top end 600 series , 770 or 780 ..or even a titan. You cant do any better.
if ur running a i5 u could gain a little performanee going to an i7, but it wouldnt be worth it just for GW2.

Dont upgrade, not unless ur on a very old rig.

Look at my rig.
Want to know my FPS i get.?
35-60 in La
25-60 in WvW
60 in PvE
30-60 in busy large dynamic events.

Settings? ok yes they are maxed with supersampling and even 3200×1800 resolution downsampling..but still. My GPU is NOT maxed out, and my CPU isnt even breaking a swet.

The price/performance of upgrading for GW2 specificaly, is appauling.

Now as i said if ur running an old rif like a Core 2 quad or duo, or an old AMD cpu.. then yes upgrade. get a FX6k series or better or a Intel i5 or better. if ur running somthing like a 8800gts graphics card of a 4000 series AMD.. yes upgrade. .get a 7870XT or 660 or better. ..but at this point that wont be for just GW2, its simply a neccessity if ur a gamer. PC’s dont last forever.

I run a 780 classified, iv even recently OC’d it to 1267mhz on the core.
I run at my hdmi cables max resolution (bandwidth restricted) of 3200×1800 downsampling. With all settings max except Reflections (still bugged so its on T&S) and even Supersampling.

before the culling patch i could easily cap out my 60fps cap. Now though its down to ~35-60 in LA no matter if i lower the resolution or not. The only way t make it betetr is to use the culling, which looks crap.
Its a limitation to the game engine. In some casses its the users CPU maxing out, but ether way… the game engine is crap for whats being asked of it.

PvE is fine, 60 fps al lthe time, even WvW is ok until lmassive zergs start going at it. LA would be ok if it wasnt so busy but due to the event there are lots of people around and so the game engine gets loaded up and the FPS drops like a stone.

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Sry, but ..really? They STILL havnt changed their minimum specs dispite the horrible performance even people like me with my rig are getting in LA and WvW, and Dynamic events..25 FPS minimum in WvW, 30’s in LA now ..come on.

if u run a rig like that, even with all the game settings on Low and Resolution at 1024×768, the game will run like crap, and grind ot a halt the moment u set foot in LA or a WvW zerg.
That is most deffinalty a “minimum System requirments to RUN the game”
no " Minimum system requirments to PLAY the game" :P

Nothing against you OP. Just want to make that clear

The place with the worst possible performance to test, outside of WvW zergs, is the northern most waypoint in LA. go there, look towards the forge, zoom out as far as u can and see what u get.

So long as the OS has a 64bit version available. Going from 32bit to 64bit is free.

Everyone should be on W7 (or 8 if they must) by now. there is 0 reason not to. Cant afford to ‘buy’ it ..well ..dont ‘buy’ it

hardware to old to use 64 bit. then well tbh, ur rig is likely not up to scratch for gaming anyway. PC’s dont lats for ever, they need upgrading / replacing every 3 to 5 years depending on the starting spec when u built/purchased it.

My settings and FPs in LA (busy LA)
MAX & Supersampling Except Reflections on terrain and Sky.
Culling: Highest characterl imit. Medium Texture Limit (same options i always use for WvW)
Resolution 3200×1800 downsampling.

FPS in Busy LA: 35-60.
Not as smooth as it used to be (55-60), but so long as its above 30 i can deal with it.

I agree though they NEED to split PvE and WvW culling options. but more importantly…they NEED to sort their game Engine out, its soo poorly optimised for the job thats being asked of it.

Where abouts in game are u getting this lower fps ?

Core parking can help but usualy only on very low end rigs. The FX 4k line probably wont show ‘much’ of a difference, any difference coud easily be confused for ‘margin of error’ between tests.

x16 PCI-e vs x8 PCI-e : Ok so ..×8 is PERFECTLY capable of handle any single card out atm. Remember, in SLI/Xfire on ur average motherboard, ur running at x8. LGA2011 boards are the exception where they can run 2x x16 cards (in native pci-e ports), only going down to x8 when a 3rd is installed.

You should only ever consider the PCI-E lane being to slow if its running on x4 or x1.

As for a solution. I cant think of anything at thise time tbh. hardware is fine, you should be getitng more. it is certainly a software problem, what it is specificaly though i cannot tell.

That laptop will ‘run’ GW2.
That laptop will NOT give ‘good FPS’. Minimal lag ..well lag is from ur Internet so ur likely to be fine no matter what rig u get. Lag does not = low FPS

If ur budget is ‘low’ (which it seems to be going by those specs) you would be better of building a PC. It still wont be great but it will be a whole lot better than what that laptop can produce.
If you MUST have a laptop, and you want to play games on it, you need to invest in a ‘proper’ gaming laptop (not just one thats been labed a gaming laptop by the retailer)
So your looking the region of $1000/£1000 for entry into proper gaming laptops

The thing with me personaly is…. I will try out a game ..one way or another.. without putting a penny into it. If the game seems worthy ill buy it..
GW2 i got the chance to play before purchasing it. It ‘seemed’ ok and it was only a one time buy. However to continue paying into it through their cash shop it would have to have been worth it once again as i got to the late and end game…. it isnt, so apart from the initial purchase Anet havnt got anymore money from me and thats alllll on them.

Its the same with FXIV ARR, i was in Beta 3 and now the open Beta 4. its a ‘good’ game, but its not sub worthy, not as it stands. So i wont be playing it once it goes live.

Eve online, the game itself i have no gripes about, i played it for like 3 years, till innevitiably i couldnt stand spending the time on it each day grinding rats to pay for my ships. And i hated the idea of managing a base/factory and working markets which is the best and only way to support a active combat lifestyle. So i ended my sub.

WoW..yes i played WoW :P .. back in Vanilla and TBC i liked it and payed for it without hessitation, it wasnt the most complex game but it was fun. Then came WotLK, the game went down a notch, i started considering ending my sub..by the time the WotLK patches entered its midlife ..i quit the game, it got to easy and the population continued to get more …agrivating. I went back a few times during transitions to Cata but by that point the game was even worse so it only lasted 1 months worth of sub time.

Bassicaly, nowerdays wioth the costs of ..well everything.. a game HAS to be polished, it HAS to be worth it. If theres a problem it HAS to show improvments in that area. GW2 is not doing so.

Like i said Avelos, it dependson the individual persons deffinaition of playable.

But yea GW2 will run, how playable it is you will just have to find out yourself. I personaly would not recommend it, but i moved away from low performance/fps gaming many years ago, so i just cant stand performance/fps that other people may be perfectly fine with

Will it ‘run’ yes.
Will it be playable. Depends on ur deffinaition. You wont want to be anywhere near populated areas.

The GPU should handle lowest settings at that resolution. The CPU however will not handle any populated places.

Ill be honest, if ur looking at laptops of that specs u likely wont have the money neccesery to get a laptop with the recommended specs to play GW2 with reasonable Graphcis settings and FPS. So get the best you can and cross your fingers.

TBH i stoped playing GW2 now pritty much. I pop on now and then just to ..well i end up doing nothing most the time lol. I just dont feel the need to play GW2 anymore, specialy with the performance issues. Everytime i go to WvW and drop down to 20-35 fps i get that sinking feeling ..like..“why the hell have i spent almost £3700* on my rig in my room to get this kinda performance”.

Im currently beta testing Firefall and FFXIV ARR. Aswell as playing through Crysis 3 and Metro LL. All of which use my rig better than GW2 does.

*total cost of everything computer related ..so Display, speakers, the PC, the perphierals etc, all going by prices when new.

With respect vesperia.
A 4 thread 2.5ghz i5 CPU is a far cry from a 2 thread 1.6ghz CPU.
It sounds like it may be a Intel Pentium T2330. Though just saying that it is a dual core 1.6ghz does leave it open for other possiblities.
And as low end as a 320m GPU is, its likely a hell of alot betetr than any onboard integrated GPU from the same period the CPU is from.

To be fair, if everyone with a 7970 had the same issue this forum would be flooded alot mroe than it is.

So there must be a client side fix.

I havnt used an AMD gpu in ages so icant help with the CCC settings but i sugest u play aroudn with those, try different dirver, try different ingame settings. And if all else fails. Do a fresh format and reinstall of ur OS and GW.

In actual fact come to think of it…. that lats batch of Windows 7 updates caused an issue with Rift, 1 of the updates broke the game so u couldnt even load it. To fix the issue u had to uninstall a particular update.

Check ur windows updates. uninstall all the latest updates that may have been installed when u first experiance the FPS drop. See if that helps.

I have auto update turned of so i havnt got the latest W7 updates , and i dont have any problems. I run that game at 3200×1800 on max settings and Supersampling (Relftion bugged os they areo n terrain and Sky) and im rocking 55-60 (Capped) fps in LA and open world.

As the others have stated..not a chance.

It may possibly, if ur lucky, ‘run’ the game. But will it be playable …no.

Realisticly (as in, not what the game dev’s say, but what the players say)
Laptops minimum sugested specs.
CPU:3630QM / 4700MQ or higher
GPU: 660m /760m or higher

Even with those specs you will be unable to properly play the entire game (WvW). As the FPS will tank due to the CPU.

Recommended laptop Specs
Intel Desktop i7 3820 (yes u can find laptops with it in)
Nvida 780m

With that spec u could then do WvW and large dynamic events, as the CPU is stronger and should keep FPS in the playable regions (20+).

FYI.
Both specs cost alot for a laptop, and u could get simular performance much cheaper by building a desktop rig.