Guild Wars 2

sleepless.7583:

Since i7 920 overclock, I used ZALMAN CNPS series, now I’m using ZALMAN CNPS9900MAXR and very satisfied, under SuperPI test of OC 4.5, the temp is just around 76c, my motherboard and memory is the bottleneck preventing me overclock more than 4.5G, I achieved 4.8G which is not stable under long time SuperPI test, but seems ok for my normal run or game play, of coz it crashes with that high freq ; )

I think u will find its not the motherboard holding u back.
There have been tests done that show that nowerdays the motherboard u get almost doesnt matter (so long as they are Z series) what OC u get. You could get a Asus m-ITX board and a Asus Maximus Extreme board and they will get the same OC.
The thing that mattera is the CPU itself, the silicon lottery. You will likely find that u may need a very large boost in voltage to get above 4.5ghz at which point ur cooler isnt good enough.
But for Haswel it doesnt matter much, a 4.5ghz Haswell is roughly the same as a 4.9ghz-5.0ghz Sandybridge.

34 fps isnt unheard of in a average sized zerg but 34 fps as a minimum in a EB sized zerg ..i think not. Pic’s or didnt happen bassicaly :P

SLI wont get around minimum frame rates that are caused by the CPU. If it went as low as 18 in the 1st test for non SLI, it would go down to 18 FPS in the SLI test if it was the exact same situation. What likely happend was the WvW test for SLI was simply less intensive. Not saying it wouldnt still look like a crazy big zerg but a 120+ man zerg can look similar to a 80 man zerg when ur in the thick of it. Same can ebe said for LA, unless ur capped by GPU, SLI wont change the minimums.

Deffinatly get a K version of the CPU and a Z series motherboard to OC.

A 760 is fine for GW2.

GW2 is mainly limited by CPU grunt, hence why most people will always recommend a overclockable intel CPU and appropriate motherboard.

No rig can run Gw2 ‘smooth’ ill just put that out there for you. Even a rig like my own will fall below 30 FPS in WvW. So you really do need to put the money into the CPU if u want a ‘playable’ experiance, but even then, dont expect high FPS.

If Intel doesnt solder the IHS on Haswell-E those chips are going to run soooo hot that they wont be able to OC much if at all.

I understand about the bluryness, i cant stand running my Desktop above 1920×1080 for example, text looks like crap.

In games however, the slight blur is roughly the same as FXAA. So downsampling like i am is like augmented FXAA.

I would love to run at 4k now just from a testing point of view, infact thats the whle reaosn i got into downsampling. Alass i dont got the bandwidth with my HDMI connection so i cant. 3200×1800 is the absolute MAX i can go.

Remember im running on a 42" screen, so jaggies are VERY visiable. Im not squinting to look at somthing in an image through a ‘small’ 27" or lower sized monitor. If GW2 had 4x or 8x MSAA i would run it. But it doesnt, it has 1 option for SS, and FXAA. I choose to run SS + Downsampling with no FXAA.

" broadwel is 30% more power efficent than haswell at the same performance level "
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7318/intel-demos-14nm-broadwell-up-to-30-lower-power-than-haswell
paragraph under 1st pic.

Meaning broadwell is unlikely to give any significant performance advantage over Haswell and is likely to follwo the trend and be even hotter when OC’d.

Dont wait for braodwell it wont be anythign special.
You could get a Sandybridge(2500k/2550k/2600k/2700k), Ivybridge(3570k/3770k), or Haswell(4670k/3770k) and be good to go even after broadwell comes out as they will all produce the same performance once Overclocked using the same cooler.

Yes well, Plasma TV’s dont come with DVI :P

I will however be going DVI once Asus’s 4k 39" Monitor comes out in Q1 next year
Thats gunna be so sweet, over double the PPI (pixels per inch) as what i got now and 4 times the resolution. yes its slightly smaller being that my current one is 42" .. but i neve really wanted a 42" screen, i originaly wanted 37", but LCD tv’s 4 or so years ago had horrible ghositng so i had no choice but to go plasma, and they start at 42".

Uploading the pics seems to be takign a while, the second one should come up soon.

The FPS gets hit hard by reflection – All, so i highley advise u turn them down.

As for resolution, im downsampling, my scree only takes 1920×1080, but by downsampling i can effectivly get rid of Alaizing. beleve it or not my GPu is still not breaking a swet lol…well ok it is sweting a bit, but its at 85% , so still has some room. I just cant go any higher due to bandwidth limitso n my HDMI cable and/or TV input controler, 1 pixel higher and 90% of the screen is black and only the top 10% is shown lol.

I know lol i just felt like trying it a while back. :P

yea just over the bridge form the northern waypoint, thats a good place to test, its the worst place in LA for FPS as u said.

Here is what i get.

1st pic my settings, 2nd one urs.

Yea i unparked my cores a while back and my FPS was still within margin for error so i couldnt see any difference.

XFlyingBeeX.2836:

Nah you dont bealive me i have better score than i3 with FX 6300 we tested…

With respect, the post didnt show any advnatage. atleast not in the sceenies posted.

Yours
http://postimg.org/image/i1nqzivpj/

Fermi’s i3.
http://i.imgur.com/iuzcZaw.jpg

If ur already on a Z77 motherboard then just get a 3770k or 3570k. Its not worth the money to buy a new motherboard and CPU when ur already on LGA 1155.
Use what u would spend on a new motherboard to get ether the 3770k, or even the 3770k + a h100 AIO water cooler and OC the balls of it.

What u will gain is the performance is the difference between the adaptive 3.5-3.7ghz 3550 to a constant 4.5ghz+ 3570k or 3770k.

An i7 will only show an advantage over the i5 when the i5 would otherwise be 99% utilised. So how often do u notice ur current 3550 hitting 99-100% overall utilisation ? what ever the answere is, thats how often u wil see an advantage if u got an i7. It can happen in GW2, but it isnt very often. Even so, saving money on the motherboard by not buying a new LGA 1150 one could be spent on an i7 anyway so if u can get one, then get one.

Out of the 2 ? GE70 hands down.

The thing to rememeber about trying to get a LGA 1150 motherboard that has x16 x16 support is that they do that via a bridge chip, that introduces a little input lag into the picture, somthing u may or may not notice. pro gamers do notice it and is why they tend ot stear clear of such things. if they really want x16 x16 they go for a LGA 2011 rig.

850w PSU more than total overkill for a haswell system.

That case has no side window to see the awsome sauce inside :P

Blue RAM and Blue PCB GPU with red/black motherboard .. ?

Performance wise its fine.

The VRAM point is totaly true though. Atm i dont see many, if any games use 2gb or more VRam, most around 1.2 to 1.5gb VRAM at 1080p. But in the future i supose it could matter. if ur gunna run above 1080p then deffinatly get a R9 280×. otherwise for now 2gb should be fine for 1080p. You could always get a 4gb GtX 770, but its just not cost effective, 4gb VRAm for 1080p is overkill.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1YHy5

Could it be cheaper, yes. but the parts picked are all top quality. And as a added bonus it will ‘look’ good with a red/black theme.

I put in 6 of corsair new 120mm Af series red LED fans, adds a significant chunk of cost to it, but ill make it look great. Ofc u could buy these at a later date to save money and stick the with stock 2in 1 out fans that comes with the case.

The 250gb SSD could also be lowered to 120GB to save a bit if u want.

The GD65 gaming motherboard has great feature and look baller. The 4770k with a H100 cooling it means u can OC it nicely for that extra performance needed for GW2 to play as good as can be done atm, which is to say ..not good enough in WvW and LA :P

And ofc finaly, the graphics card. If u want more VRAM then one of AMD’s R9 280x’s would probably be the best bet. Try get one like Asus’s DC2T or MSI’s Gaming 3G.

In all honesty GW2 doesnt run to well on laptops. its mainly down to the CPU.

That said, i dont know what ur current PC specs are so i cant say if it will be an improvment or not.

That Laptop only has a 740m card, which means its not even within the gaming range of cards. If ur goign into the 700 series cards u want a 760m atleast. Im not saying GW2 wont run with a 740m, it just wont be able to run on very hgih settings or resolutions. GW2 isnt particularly graphicaly intensive so it would be ok, but other games that are, would suffer.

EDIT: that particular laptop also looks very thin, it would likely have cooling issues with extended high load. Though i cant say for sure.

Software will never directly cause hardware to overheat.

It can certainly show up an existing hardware fault, be it inadequate cooling or defective part. but it wont directly cause it.

People have blamed GW2 for this in the past and its taken a good half dozen- dozen people saying the same thing to convince them otherwise.

So just take my word for it, its not GW2 causing the overheat. It may add extra load in some way, but it wont CAUSE an overheat. its not a magic program that can suddenly force the GPU to use more voltage than its bios is set to, or lower fan speeds to allow heat to build up.

Check ur exact GPu temps, mak sure they are within the GPU spec limits, if they are u have no worries, if not then u got a hardware issue.

Giimy a few mins to find the vid …
EDIT: Found it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yeuJAOVRoA0

Bassicaly u could get a Asus itx board (low end) vs a Asus maximus Extreme (super high end) and the FPS difference at with other hardware the same and the clock speeds the same, will be roughly 2-5% ..so maybe 1-2 FPS at most. The price:performance is sooooooo bad. Note in GW2 chances are it would make 0 difference, the FPS in the situations where u want mroe FPs will be to low for 2-5% to make any difference on the FPS. i.e 20fps + 2% = 20.4 fps

motherboard choice is mainly decided by 2 factors : Required features (sata, PCI-E, onboard sound etc), and Visual asthetics.

As for ur rig. That seems like a perfectly capable system. if its prebuilt just make sure the PSU has enough room for future upgrades.

Wow people still using Reflection – All …

Really, change to Terrain and Sky, u will gain a good chunk of FPS. Specialy in LA.

And this is just my opinion, but Character Model quality .. anythign above medium is a waste of performance, u wont notice it untill u hit BIG zergs, even then those around ur char will be fully textured and only those further away will turn green. Its so worth the performance.

Still, good to see some up to date screen caps for comparison.

sirsquishy.8531:

DoomPuppy.1705:

is an i5 or an i7 a better option?
and will the i5 run gw2 well in wvw?
WvW is where i do most of my work levelling/playing and such.
Thanks for the advice.

If buying completely new right now, I would recommend spotting in for a z87 chipset board (I run an MSI Z87-G45) and an i5-4670K ($210~ is what I paid for the CPU).

That teamed with my single HD7790, I get a solid 22-25FPS in WvW under system stress (Zergs). OC’d to 4.6Ghz.

if you want, the i7-K was only $75 more, and from what I have read does not boost your Low end FPS at all when compared to the i5-K, just smooths the frame drops out a bit better so you dont see the frame dips if/when it drops below 24FPS.

But either way, its $400+~ for a good 4th gen i5/i7 CPU+MB.

’OP.

Sry for kinda going offtopic :P

You can ether OC ur current CPU and stick with ur GPU.
or if u want a bigger boost in performance.
Do what Squishy said.
An i5 is more budget freindly and in most casses will be fine for GW2, some situations may max it out and thats where an i7 will trump it, but that doesnt hapen THAT often. just make sure ot get a Z87 board with a K edition CPU so u can OverClock for even mroe performance. You will need a good aftermark CPu cooler aswell for OverCLocking andi would recommend one even fi ur not goign to OC as the haswell (4670k/4770k) cpu’s tend to run toasty.

FXAA is of no use when u have no jaggies what so ever at that esolution with supersampling. All FXAA does is add light blur effect over everything

EDIT: oh and yes 4.6ghz is an easy 24/7 OC so long as voltages and thus heat are okay. it depends on the silicon lottery. My CPU hits roughly 82c max when under full prime 95 load for hours on end. The NH-D14 air cooler is no joke it pritty much the best air cooler out, but im going into a custom water loop somtime in Q1 next year so i can keep my GPU cool (my GPU is one hot mofo, easily hits 80c even with 100% fan speed, i got unlucky with te lottery and got a hot runne,r BUT it oc’s very well oddly) and OC both the CPU and GPU further than i have atm.
But since nothing i run ever uses all 12 hreads at 100% my heat never reaches above 60c in most casses and my CPU cooler stays on its idle fan speeds.

I tired to get as close to XFlyingBeeX.2836 position in LA as possible.

Uploading picks as i go.

1st one is FlyingBee’s settings. Note that reflections all drops the FPS from an otherwise 50 to 45. Reflection on All is a no no. its bugged to hell. it renders stuff u cant see and puts loado n ur CPU.

2nd image. Reflection on terrain and sky.

3rd is MY settings that i play the game at. EDIT updated pic, didnt have LOD on Ultra

Indeed future game development linked to consols will help alot with multithreaded CPUs lik the AMD FX8 series.

But i also personaly like this becouse the minority of peopel that use Intel 6core 12 thread i7’s will also see a very nice boost

Ok, yea that seems normal for a AMD CPU bassed system.
You could maybe get mroe performance if u OC that CPU.

but in all honesty as has been said above, for a 1.5k system you really should have gone with an Intel CPU, speialy if u play games like GW2 that are heavily CPU bound. MWO is another game that favors Strong Intel CPU’s.

For reference, my rig is able to to pull 35-45 FPS in the same location as in that LA-MF pic with higher settings.

try running max settings WITHOUT supersampling. Make sure Relfections are on Terrain and sky at the most, and shadows are on high at the most.

Set culling to Character Limit highest and texture limit medium.

Those fps figures seem more or less normal for that setup and GW2. Though i cant say im used ot seeing fps figures from that city/location. LA next to the mystic forge would give a better idea.

Though just incase, make sure ur Graphics card is using the correct PCI-E slot with atleast x8 speed, preferably x16.

Check ur GPU usuage and Individual CPU thread usuage.

FYI for any1 else interested. You can also do the oposite and go above ur native resolution. This is called downsampling.

I personaly run GW2 at 3200×1800 on a 1080p Plasma TV, with SuperSampling on Aswell. It removes every single jagged line..period. You will need to increase the UI scale to the maximum, and even then its only just big enough and thats on a 42" screen, on a smaller screen i expect such a resolution would make the UI to small.

Note ur maximum downsample resolution will be limited to the bandwidth available on ur Display connector/wire and Screen controller. For example if i go just 1 pixel higher than 3200×1800 it fails to show a full picture on screen, becouse the HDMI lead or TV controller cant handle any more data throughput.

WvW performance is affect by the CPU the most.

If u dont play many properly graphics intensive games then i would not bother with a 290x, get a 280x at the most and buy a better CPU/motherboard if u want better WvW fps.

If ur max is 30 in a PVE environment then it may be a software issue thats capping ur FPS. do you EVER get above 30 FPS? is it exactly capped at 30 fps ? if so then its highley likely that somewhere on ur rig u have a 30 FPS cap in place for GW2.

If not then if ur getting 30 fps even in pve environments in GW2 then i still think its likely a software issue, possibly a hardware one if u have ur GPU in the wrong PCI-E slot for example.

Low FPS in LA and WvW with a AMD CPI isnt abnormal, but if its in empty PVE environment aswell, i would say that is abnormal.

Fix / dramaticaly improve client side performance befor adding more content.

No point adding content for big groups of people to do together if the majority are all watching a slide show of 10-20 FPS, with a handfull of people trying to let people know whats going on becouse they can just about scrape along with 30 FPS only thanks to having £2000+ worth of hardware brute forcing its way through GW2.

Thats all i got to say.

Unless i missed it. That whole post is about server side issues and lag. Nothing about Client side performance and FPS.

:(

If u cant afford a 760, get a AMD 7870 Tahit LE.

Like:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131484
for example.

Note for ur CPU: Asuming its atleast a second generation i5, like the 2500k/2550k or newer, then yes just OC.
If its a 1st generation i5, then dont expect fps figures like those from 2500k/3570k/4670k as they are significantly faster.

By ‘ok’ i mean that, 1) this is GW2, nothing runs ‘great’ and 2) u cant OC, so u still wont be getting as much as u can out of GW2.

You could have a budget of £2000 or a budget of £800, the performance you get with GW2 will be the same asuming both have OC’d CPU’s.
However if u compare a £800 non OC’d rig vs a £800 OC’d rig, the OC’d rig will do better.

A i5 4570 in the rig linked, will likely not have a OC capable motherboard so it woudlnt even be able to get the 300 to 400mhz OC possible on the non K edition CPU’s. It also likely doesnt have good cpu cooler, and ofc its an i5, meaning in some situations it will get maxed out in GW2.

So ‘its ok’ is a perfectly legitimate statement

Dont get me wrong, im not saying its crap, no where near so. just that u could do better for very little extra investment.

‘Ok’ in GW2 WvW zerg s( 50v50 and higher atleast ) is 15-25 FPS
‘Great’ ( if u want to call it that ) is 20-35 fps

Not much difference, but its there.

Just want to cut in here and point out that, if ur gunna look at reviews on how CPU’s affect gaming performance, u need to look at reviews that set the game settings so that the limitation is the CPU. So any review with a game like farcry with settings at 108op or higher with very high/max settings …ignore. Specialy ignore them if they only use a single GPU.

Those that use low settings, those are the ones u want to look at.

The great thing about doing what is said in that qoute Aza, is that Intel users will ALSO see a boost. Specialy those running i7’s.
But as u and the qoute understands, its a massive undertaking and most game developers wont bother doign that unless they truley have the gamers best interests in mind. most have ‘money’ in mind and so wont give two flying f**ks how bad the perfomance is so long as people still play and put money into the game.

it will do ‘ok’. Though to be honest you REALLY should build ur own rig urself. Prebuilt rigs almost always have cut corners which can cause you hassle in the future.

Adittional they never seem to use the most optimal parts. the one u linked for example would be better of with a 660ti or 760, and the CPU shold be a K version. It doesnt say what motherboardi t has which means its likely a low end non OC ready board.

IF ur going to go prebuilt, get one from a place that fully lists the parts.
Aria.co.uk does great prebuilt systems. http://www.aria.co.uk/Systems/Gaming+Range/Intel+Gaming+PCs/GLADIATOR+Gaming+i5-Sabre+GTX+760+4.40GHz+Overclocked+4670K+Pro+PC+%2B+2+FREE+GAMES+?productId=56519
http://www.aria.co.uk/Systems/Gaming+Range/Intel+Gaming+PCs/GLADIATOR+Gaming+i5-Vengeance+GTX+BOOST+4.20GHz+Overclocked+4670K+Pro+PC+?productId=56518

Another place is Overclockers.co.uk though they tend to be a tad expensive.

Both websites allow customization if u so desire, u just need to contact them.

unfortunatly if it was somthing as major as a DX problem, there would be ALOT more people on the forums complaining.

Ok in that case what ur describing sound rather normal.

In LA as u move through the city into different area’s the 1st time ‘stuff’ is loaded up will cause FPS to drop, but as its buffered, those drops wont be as bad.

So for example if i log in and spin the camera around i would see FPS plumit to the low 20’s, but after a couple seconds i can spin the camera around and the FPS will be stable at around 35-45 if im next to the bank overlooking the mysticforge during peak hours, and constant 60 FPS if im in another area that isnt as busy.

Now if this isnt exactly what ur describing then it could be helpfull if u could post a video of what exactly is happening.

More info on the actual problem please.

Do u mean FPS issues, or Intenet Latency issues aka LAG.

if its FPS, then what figures are u see, and where ?
Whats ur GPU and CPU usuage, and what are ur temps at ?

The PCI-E bandwidth will only help once GPU’s get so fast that they fully utilize a 8x PCI-E 3.0 lane. At which point a 2011 rig with 2x 16x lanes will be better.

That said, currently 3 -4 card setups do benefit from a 2011 boards since they can run at x16 x8 x8 and x8 x8 x8 x8 native, but thats a really expensive setup for in all honesty, a small increase in FPS.

And one thing that is more an ‘opinion’ than a fact ..is. IMO a 2011 setup will have a litle extra ‘future resistance’ vs a 1150/5 rig, as you do have those extra cores. This however is going by the assumption that eventually games will start better utilizing ALL the cores.

however its an expensive gamble to take just for a bit of ‘future resistance’…in the short term it wont make any difference.

I would never ‘reccommend’ a LGA 2011 rig for gaming, but i wouldnt say ‘deffinatly dont do it’ ..becouse well ..i’ve done it :P

Games like Crysis 3 and the upcoming BF4 do/will show better top end FPS with a LGA 2011 rig, but u need to have enough GPU grunt to put the strain on the CPU.

[img]http://i.imgur.com/0nIkCAb.jpg[/img]

Ok cool. In that case GL with it. it should stand u in good stead for the forseable future as broadwell isnt going to be anything special “30% better energy efficency at the same performance lvl as haswell” (intel qoute).

Yea bad TIM between the Dye and IHS is a flaw with the 3rd and 4th gen CPU’s but ur only alternative is to delid or find a 2nd gen CPu for sale somehwere and OC the balls of it.

BTW Storm ..u have my sympathies , thats a brutal voltage for 4.5ghz on a 3770k. I was runing my 3930k at 1.36v at 4.6ghz for the first 6 months of its life, im now running at 1,.376v for 4,6ghz. (its not unusual for ur 1st OC setitngs to become unstable, due ot the burn in/break in period). Are u using a Offset OC like me ? or a static voltage OC ?

Do take note however that ur ‘average’ (silicon lottery average) 2700k vs a 3770k vs a 4770k on the SAME consumer grade air or AIO water cooler each time, with a OC, will generaly perform almost identicaly, becouse;
The 2700k will , for example, reach 5ghz, the 3770k 4.7ghz, and the 4770k 4.5ghz, at that point the clock for clock advantages the newer ones has over the older one then dissaper due to the OC clock differences.

I hope that makes sense :P

EDIT: Once u go custom water loop level cooling, then heat isnt the limiting point anymore and ur limited by the actual capabilities of the CPU, at which point ur looking at around the 5ghz mark on all the CPU’s so the 4770k at 5ghz will obviosly do better than a 2700k/3770k at 5ghz.

Its a bit of a pain to get steady figures in GW2 as there is no way to accuratly benchmark. Each WvW battle is different for example.

However i was able to stay above 20 FPS with the haswell just like i can with the Sandy-E, thats in really BIG zergs. The 3930k does better since its OC’d, but both stay above 20. Usualy averaging 30-40 FPS.

Using Max graphics settings(including SuperSampling) except reflections on terrain and Sky @ 1920×1080. With culling set to Character Limit: highest, and Texture Limit: Medium.

That said one good place to compare as it does generaly stay very simular between tests, is the northern waypoint in LA, go acroos the bridge towards the MF and looking towards the MF measure the FPS there. This is the place u go in LA to see the lowest FPS.
Anyway the 4770k non OC system gets arond 32-33 FPS and my 3930k system with OC gets 38-40FPS. I just check with both system as i typed this. remember this is during the halloween patch so FPS figures will be higher once its back to normal.

Same settings on both rigs. They have different GPU’s and such but nether GPU is stressed so its jus tthe CPU’s making the difference.

Btw check this vid out. Its about how motherboards nowerdays have the same overclocking abilities even if u compare the extreme low end to the extreme high end.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yeuJAOVRoA0

Im trying to get some info directly from Asus about the 39" 4k screen and G-Sync. last reply i got from them sounded like it wont be coming with it immediatly, but later models might.

I own a Sandy – E and have a 4770k computer i built downstair for a family member.

Both CPU’s run GW2 as good as u can expect. The 4770k isnt OC’d but handle GW2 as good as can be expected, and my 3930k is OC’d to 4.6ghz and also handle GW2 as good as can be expected.

bassicaly u cant get better than a 2nd/3rd/4th gen i7 k verison CPU atm.

FYI. Unless u specificaly need somthing from the Asus hero board, if ur just looking to get it for its visual red/black style, then a MSI GD65 or GD45 gaming is cheaper and looks just as good.
The Hero is still a brilliant board, just thought i would throw out another option Most of Asus’s cheaper boards are that horrid fake gold color, thought maybe u were just getitng the hero for its visuals :P

Upgrade to a 64bit OS.

When u buy a copy of Windows u get both 32 and 64bit. So u can use ur current Key code to download and install (or install from CD) the 64bit version.

minimum memory you really want is 4gb, but try a 64bit OS first befor spending money trying to fix it.

Alot of people still get OOM crashes with 4gb of ram since a 32bit OS tends ot miss us 4gb, trying to use all 4 gb when in actual fact there is only 3.6gb available due to the way the OS works.

I would be amazed if som1 managed 5ghz on an Ivybridge without water cooling, even more so if they done it without water cooling AND without deliding.

High FPS in PvE like that isnt exactly hard, but it is indeed still nice to see for GW2
That said i personaly cant stand screen tearing so always have V-Sync on.

Im gunan be water cooling my own rig somtime in Q1 next year along with a Second GTX 780 and Asus’s 4k 39" Monitor ……sympathy for my wallet :P

Some advice ..you need more tech support people working in the tech suport forum.

Otherwise change the title of the tech support forum to somthing like " tech talk"

Becouse atm there is only a half dozen members of the public community that bothers to actually offer technical support, with maybe 1 or 2 Anet reps who only show their heads now and then and only offer generic responses.
The current ‘tech Support’ forum is only being held together by the community, which isnt easy considering they have nothing to offer people other than their word thatthey know what they are talking about , which means next to nothing on the ‘interwebs’ :P

hell… if u need to employee some more people for forum tech support then im more than certain there would be some people who would gladley apply for a small little online job like that.