Guild Wars 2

Rainbow Sprint.3215:

Falcon.8713:

Rainbow Sprint.3215:

Everyone thinks their class sucks, that’s why. While the necro isnt particularly good for PvE it’s not terrible and other classes have it worse (Elementalist). Necros can do fine in WvW, which you said; and while I dont play PvP I hear they’re not bad there.

Elementalist is not bad, they’re asked for Fire fields + ice bow & fgs to deal insane damage..

Thats the problem, ele is just utility, they’re not that good on their own. If other classes could get the FGS then nobody would want an ele. Damage is not all that makes a class. Something everyone could use to learn really.

Erm ele has everything. Top damage (not just with conjures), buffing, utility, support, versatility, active defense. Best solo class aswell.

If you are in melee 3 is worth casting.

Your post will be deleted. You cant name and shame people on the forums.

One of them has bugged enrage stacks. Dont remember which but 1 loses 1 stack per hit and the other loses 1 per skill activation (like the grawl shamans shield). Bursting them down is usually the safer option for organized/high dps groups.

You probably know about this but ill share anyway. If you get harpy you can faceroll Old Tom with either untraited wardens or get an ele to use the earth elemental elite (best tank eu) to tank the projectiles.

Clumsy.6257:

hendo.1940:

Indeed it’s pathetic, you are jealous.

I’m not jealous, it’s just a glaring reminder of how dull the speed clear/kill meta is.

Because using the skill with the undisputed highest DPS to kill something fast is pathetic… #logic

When it lets guilds like yours cheese fights where you lack the skill to actually dodge the mechanics to kill bosses, then yes, a weapon having this high DPS is pathetic.

I love how long it took you to break out the insults. Also you should probably see members of a guild play before you say they can’t dodge.
edit: Just out of curiosity, what guild are you in?

Hes in Does not Troll.

Unid dyes in recipe. Bifrost even more expensive than juggernaut.

Only thing i have doubled up on is the trickster set and corrupted daggers. So im relatively lucky in that regard. I do have a lot of expensive skins which i will most likely share across characters now. So for me im very happy.

I understand some people may feel like they wasted a lot of gold but i think they will be happy overall.

Sandy will be mad at me when i dual wield infinite light.

Dub.1273:

Spoj The Second.7680:

So rT guild chat is filled with giggling little girls thanks to the wardrobe blog. Were all casuals at heart.

Don’t ever mention the G-word when kitten can watch.

haha

So rT guild chat is filled with giggling little girls thanks to the wardrobe blog. Were all casuals at heart.

I think thats referring to pvp. They dont care about pve either way.

And they said they do listen to high skilled player feedback if it has a valid point. Although i feel they dont understand what a valid point is. Either that or they just ignore pve too much.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/warrior/Rampager-build-looks-promising-in-PVE-now/first

Such maths.

The reason people ask their buyers to help on p3 is because the boss isnt exactly nice to solo and theres no safespot to hold it at 1%. So the buyers will end up waiting a while if they do expect the seller to solo it. Besides they get a free chest and champ loot if they help.

The reason conditions are such a problem in gw2 is because they are constantly checking the source for the condition damage and updating the damage per tick in realtime. If anet had them as a constant damage on apply then they could probably address some of the issues and negate some of the server load. Either way i doubt they will ever fix the problem as its too late now.

Organized groups dont take healers.

Afya.5842:

I just can’t get how people say unshakable is fine.

Blind vs aegis
Vuln vs might
Weakness vs protection

Why do the condition version have to suffer from reduced effect while the boons dont? Some classes are stronger on applying condition so why should they be suffering from unshakable but other classes apply their boons with 100% success rate?

Noone said unshakeable is fine. We said defiant is fine.

Ok maybe its a bit higher then. Been a long time since i did the math.

How many bleed stacks are you maintaining? and how much are they doing per tick.

No the 7k is including the direct damage. Condi necro does about 3.5k dps with conditions.

Ok well id just like to point something out. If a warrior is doing 10k dps and cleaving thats 3 targets so 30k dps. If a necro is doing 5k dps to 5 targets thats 25k dps.

Anyway condi necro is something like 7k dps but it has considerable build up time which is one of the many flaws of condi. Beserker necro has 11k-12k dps on single targets.

Frotee.2634:

That being said, having played a necro from day 1 has kind of ruined me for eles – I am SO bad at surviving and doing damage on my ele…will probably have to consult a couple of guides for that.

Just keep playing ele. Especially D/F and you will get the hang of it eventually. I was kind of spoilt having played warrior and necro so much. And guardian, though unforgiving at times, has so many “oh kitten” buttons its a similar situation.

Learning to attune swap efficiently for those defensive weapon skills is the most challenging and important thing about learning ele. Its much more micromanagement than warrior or necro thats for sure.

Everything does “just fine” in this game. :P

digiowl.9620:

High level fractals are not representative for how most of the game is played, for better or for worse.

True but the majority of the playerbase doesnt understand the game they are playing so this will always be the case.

sorudo.9054:

Purple Miku.7032:

sorudo.9054:

OneManArmy.9732:

sorudo.9054:

OneManArmy.9732:

Ele’s are highest dps in game. top dps <-> lowest survivability. seems fair

then why is my main, a necro, more powerful in general PvE and survives like mad?

what did you mean by “more powerful”? powerful in what?
damage? no
support? no
buffs? no
survival? yes
necro’s are selfish and useless for party in any pve/wvw/pvp scenario

you have never played a necro have you…
they are really good at support, can heal whole groups of players, let other players do conditions otherwise difficult to do and you call necro’s selfish?
man oh man, talk about not checking the facts……

Necros aren’t the best in anything other than having the highest hp pools. They have no cleave, which is HORRIBLE for PvE, deal very low damage in comparison to the other classes, and don’t even support the best.

There’s no reason to ever want a necro on a team. Support on this game is with control, blinds, reflects, blocks. All of these a necro isn’t known for. The only control necros really have is fearing which is a burden in dungeons.

yep, you also never played a necro, i suggest you ppl actualy play a necro before spouting non-sense like this.
i have a necro from point 1 and it’s actually more powerful in support then ppl want to admit, they are so scared of it that they can’t see the obvious power gap even if it stands right at front of them.

Actually Miku is correct. You are just biased and i suspect you havent played any of the other classes to a decent level. So your view is warped.

Exactly. Its only a problem when noone else is using cc. Dungeons and fractals are meant to be for organised groups. Dungeons are possible in pugs with no real difficulty because they have been in the game since launch. You cannot balance the game around unorganized pugs. You people are just asking for the game to be dumbed down even further than it already is.

phys.7689:

Nikaido.3457:

Try to kill the pack of mobs after the tunnel in the molten fractal @50 without using any blind, any cc, any damage mitigation. Try it. I dare you talk about how CC is useless after this. In fact it’s my main pet peeve in pugs when I see warriors camp their gs and not use mace 5 etc.

its useless on bosses and champs, 99% of time people avoid regular mobs

No its not. And you cant avoid most regular mobs in fractals.

Control role is not determined by gear….. Same goes for support. Just because people can do all 3 roles in berserker doesnt mean it needs changing.

dekou.6012:

Spoj The Second.7680:

CC is very important and widely used in organised groups with defiants current implementation. I dont know how many times we have to repeat this until people realise that….

Sure, it’s used in some dungeons. However, dungeons are a rather small part of the game, have received minimal attention during updates and are mostly so easy you don’t need any CC. So yes, CC is useful in some cases, just like condition damage is good in organised groups without a second CDMG character. Doesn’t mean CDMG works fine in PvE.

CC is useful in every part of the game except in zergs. Simply because bosses get 50 stacks of defiant. But if they didnt then the entire zerg could stunlock them to crap. So its fine as it is. It should not be balanced around zergs (the most mindless thing in the game).

CC is very important and widely used in organised groups with defiants current implementation. I dont know how many times we have to repeat this until people realise that….

The only thing i dislike is how blind works on unshakeable bosses. It should be 10% chance to apply not 10% chance to work.

More uninfused rings. Although one of us got a condi armour box last night. First decent reward since update and weve run 1-2 fractals every day since the patch.

You start the first dodge about when his hand is fully extended.

Pretty sure the only dps increase on dagger offhand is fire grab. But you lose extra utility and an extra blast (comet). Churning earth is not worth casting in combat, whereas comet needs to be cast in combat to get the blast and is worth it

I only use dagger offhand for mobility. Thats pretty much its only advantage over focus.

There is no change. They are still the bottom class.

Vargamonth.2047:

Full berserker ascended/scholar 20/25/0/0/25 Guardian, using Curry Butternut Squash and boosted by Spotter (150 precision) and Banner of Discipline (170 Precision, 15% Critical Damage).

91, 38% crit. chance, 104% crit.damage
Effective Power = K * [ (1-0.9138) * 1 + 0.9138 * (1.5+1.04) ] = 2.407K

With ferocitiy changes we should expect 745 Ferocity from gear. We can also expect:
- Banner of Discipline —> 170 Ferocity
- Food --> 70 Ferocity
- Runes —> 100 Ferocity
For a total of 1085 Ferocity = +72.33% crit.damage

Effective Power = K * [ (1-0.9138) * 1 + 0.9138 * (1.5+0.7233) ] =2.118K

2.118K / 2.407K = 0.88 —> 12% damage reduction

Guardian is a bit ticky because it doesn’t get crit. damage from traitlines, so we should expect a slightly higher decrease for other classes (about a 16.5% for a LH hammer ele whith 30 points in Air and arcane Lightning charged, which is the highest value I’ve figured).

This guy knows what hes talking about. Guardian is the least effected by the change. I may have exaggerated a little bit earlier. But the change hurts optimized groups much more than it hurts pugs. Which is absurd.

I dont know why i bother. :/

Never said it mattered. Noone uses ruby orbs so it makes me think he has no idea what buffs and builds people use. And he still failed to notice what he was missing.

InterMUD?

Not sure how thats relevant though.

Ruby orbs lol. You just lost any credibility you may have had.

Gear and traits arent the only sources of crit damage.

The scaling on the giant is fine lol. Ofcourse its going to take forever to kill if you use clerics or pvt crap.

Im sure i dont need to point out the flaws in your maths. They said overall damage. So you need to calculate dps or effective power. It is about 10% for unbuffed berserkers but for organised groups its much closer to a 25% damage loss. Essentially they are nerfing organised groups that optimize and work together and allowing pugs to get away with pretty much no loss. Pretty big joke if you ask me.

Only 2 of are from rT and 1 of us only just came back to the game.

And yet we always get fk all no matter what level we do. :<

Doesnt even take that long to solo.

Forgive me for being realistic. The only way they could stop berserker from being #1 is by turning gw2 into a traditional trinity game (not going to happen) or buffing condi builds (you would still only take 1/2 condi + 3/4 berserkers). So yes, no matter what they do (realistically speaking) berserker will always be top.

Nike.2631:

“Build diversity in WvW” would have to EXIST before it could be damaged .

They’re not done tweaking the PvE meta. This is a step, not a destination.

Its the players that decide the meta, not anet. No matter what they do, beserker will always be #1.

My super weapon textures bugged at the end of SE. And I also had a nice sprint in arah.

They may also work against inquest, flame legion and dredge. Someone should test. :P

Were all online :P

Except cla logged off.

Agree. Noone should be jealous of the french ever.

I dont see how these traits address anything weve been complaining about since launch. Except maybe pvp sustain.