Guild Wars 2

I saw facetanking the spider auto attack to ensure perma weakness and then turned it off.

Well thats what i do. I have an energy sigil on both focus and warhorn but i never had an issue. o.o

Maybe its because i use the same mainhand in both sets?

kyubi.3620:

Didnt a guy from Rt Solo lupicus at lvl 30ish or lower?

That was me but I didnt really solo it because i do like 10 dmg per hit at lvl 30. I was able to avoid being hit indefinately, allowing my group mates to take a screenshot which made it look as though i solo’d him to 10% hp.

lol xD

List what you need and we may be able to help with a few if we have spaces.

#buggedforum

Nope there is no change. Damage from auto attacks is calculated solely from the weapon damage of the mainhand (I tested this earlier just to be sure). I believe you use the offhand weapon ranges if you are calculating the damage of the offhand skills though. This is one of the reasons attack power is not an accurate method of gaging damage, as it seems to use both mainhand and offhand weapon damage ranges in its calculation which is not accurate for any particular skill.

You can run some minions with this build and use an axe on one of the weapon sets to suit your needs. I merely posted the optimal way to play it but feel free to adapt it as you see fit.

Exotic weapons have natural variance. They will hit for slightly different numbers all the time due to the weapon damage being a range. In the mists there are steady weapons (blue) which have a set weapon damage rather than a range. These will always hit for the same numbers aslong as you have no traits etc to make the damage fluctuate.

And to respond to Roe. Attack power is calculated from weapon damage and various things. But its only purpose is to display attack power on the hero panel. The damage you see from attacks doesnt use the attack power stat in any way but it does use some common things which are used in both, such as power and weapon damage. So yes attack power will fluctuate, but it has no accuracy to how your damage will change.

Lalangamena.3694:

I rest my case

it takes zerkers ele 4 minutes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vyKIIKsSNs

goku – another (legendary?) ele , took him in 2 minutes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjWo9nbu7v0
which is almost four times faster than the condition way…

for warrior it takes 5 minutes, again faster than conditions
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rdb33Jr-Wyo

and it is not that i am slower but safer in the defensive approach.
there is NO correlation between survival of a group and defensive build!

Condi necro could actually get about a 5min solo kill if it werent for lupi’s lifesteal cleansing conditions. And id like to point out that zerker necro is slower than condi necro for solo. This is simply because phase 1 is so fast on condi necro.

Hmm is combined training really worth it over preparedness? Anyway good job.

So i assume the build was 25/30/0/0/15?

#buggedforum

What were they doing with those energy sigils? Ive never had a problem with this bug on my necro.

Druss.6917:

Muchacho.2390:

Because Focus 4 is good for stacking vulnerablity.

Interestingly is, if i only use autoattacks, my dps with offhand dagger seems a little higher than with focus offhand (tested it on the golems in the mists). Which is strange as the weapondamage of offhands shouldnt effect the the 1-3 skills…

Auto attacks are a culmination of attack power and weapon dps, so yes having an offhand dagger will net you higher autos because daggers have higher base weapon damage than focus. However, the vulnerability, along with the multiple bounces will make your overall dps higher using a focus over time as compared to a d/d setup.

Attack power has no effect on the damage you do. It is a completely useless stat that has no effect in game. Its not used in any formula in game as far as we know.

@Muchacho
Offhands dont change your damage. I assume you didnt use steady weapons when testing or you had some traits. Because the damage is exactly the same if you do use steady weapons and have no traits or amulet. The change in damage must of been natural variance.

cranos.5913:

CoE p3 the destroyer boss now has a knockback attack (was quite the surprise :P)

He always had that move. It was rare that it would trigger. Certain mesmer phantasms increased the likelyhood of triggering it for hilarious party wiping effects.

ELement.5647:

Looks like we’ll need to re-bind our dodge keys for this one lads.

Blasphemy!

Without defiant we would be able to completely stunlock bosses permanently. Some bosses are possible to stunlock even with defiant (Stargazer in arah p1 when using sanctuary).

Second one is better. You could improve your build by using scholar runes if you still prefer using DS.

Hard CC is saught after in dungeons. 99% of the community just doesnt use it properly.

1) Give us some meaningful utility.
2) Give us a melee cleave weapon.
3) Fix current traitlines.
4) Give necros some form of active defense other than the base dodges.
5) Make boon on DS traits group aoe etc.
6) If no extra utility is given, increase direct damage to be on par with ele/thief.
7) Rework life siphon.

Dalanor.5387:

Out of curiosity, what is the highest damage that a boss can do against let’s say a zerker ele? Since everybody else would take less damage than an ele.
Mossman’s double chop and Lupi kick seems to be the top2. Anything else?

Arch diviner auto attack at 49 one shots most classes. Warrior gets hit for about 95% of his hp (they might be the only class that can survive a hit in zerker).

Vol.7601:

Just don’t expect this to be a significant increase, like 50% chance at ascended or fractal weapon drops.

These items are still meant to be rare.

Yeah im not expecting it to be much of an improvement to drop rate. But the simple fact that its selectable stats from a range is a huge improvement. Shame they didnt do the same for weapons.

Taken straight from the patch notes:

Fractals of the Mists

Changes have been made to the daily reward chests for fractals of the Mists to improve ascended armor and weapon rewards.
Ascended armor and weapons now drop more often from all levels of fractals, particularly as the fractal level increases.
Ascended armor pieces will drop more often than ascended weapons.
Ascended armor pieces will now drop in the form of boxes that contain a selection of stat combinations for a single gear slot.
Example: Defender’s Chest of Ascended Boots contains a choice of one pair of boots from the following sets: Angchu, Beigarth’s, Leftpaw’s, Wei Qi’s, Zintl, or Wupwup.

Pretty surprised we got any sort of improvement. Its a long way off from fixing fractal rewards but atleast its something. ^^

Its a real kick in the teeth for necros.

Such bugs!

So basically never double stack the sigils. I wonder if this is going to be a problem with GS when we have double sigil slots. I assume because the weapons are different it shouldnt happen?

Thats simply because ranger is only a dps increase, with minor unimportant utility. And its rare to find people who play one properly. Engineers usually have a lot going for them but their utility can be covered by other profs so noone would ask specifically for them.

Yeah i just did a quick vid.

http://youtu.be/NwJylzmE9ao

The numbers you got with 1 sigil were the numbers i got with 0 sigils and the numbers you got with 2 sigils was the number i got with 1 and 2 sigils. So they never stack, but sometimes one sigil doesnt register.

Pretty sure balance is based on tpvp. Just saying.

Id just like to point something out. If the game really was about just using one role (DPS). Then we would all be running 5 eles in every dungeon. The fact of the matter is that it is not as efficient as running with some support/control roles. These still use beserker gear and dps traits where they can but they sacrifice utility and some traits for support/control.

Its really depressing to see people still dont understand that speedruns wouldnt be possible without the use of cc and support. Pulls, interrupts, blinds, blocks, condi cleanse, stealth, stacking boons and buffs are all integral parts of being efficient. Please educate yourselves before you spew ignorance everwhere.

PS. Defiance is a good system that prevents stunlocking in dungeons and promotes coordinated use of cc to strip stacks ready for important interrupts.

Just tested on necro. Using your method of testing force still doesnt stack. My only guess is warrior is broken….

Or somehow your first sigil wasnt working to start with? Which is just what happened to me when recording a video. I got the same values as with no sigils. So i suggest you check no sigils aswell when testing because it seems sometimes they completely dont work.

Amicable Pugs.4503:

spoj.9672:

I tested it the other day in heart of the mists. It doesnt stack. Nova did the same and confirmed this. :P

see this then
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYp-Ytdsjcg

This is not how they interact when you swap weapon sets out of combat. My guess is theres no check on what sigil you already have equipped so if you start with force on 1 and then weapon swap to get a 2nd sigil it will just increase by 5%. But if you start the fight with both sigils of force equipped it will only count the first 1. Thats the only way i can explain why it produces conflicting results when testing slightly differently. Ill test it myself to check my theory.

Either way its broken. It just seems to be a bug that stacking force works sometimes.

I once got 7 shards in a 49. They were dropping like flies on ascalon.

Bone minions arent too bad for blasts either. But honestly thats just like making the most out of the terrible options we have as a class.

Its not very clear in that screen but what happened was the firestorm trolled, spread aoes everywhere and kept moving out of the arena. We didnt have anymore reflects because of this super trolling. We all died cause were bad. Blessing who was the last man standing finished him off and then downed right after due to all the aoes. xD

What sandy said. She doesnt reset instantly. But when we used SR she started to reset well before stealth ran out.

etb.2703:

My Sylvari decided to suicide with an ancestral branch in between the eyes. This screen needs no explanation, look in the background

Brilliant!

Dub.1273:

Enaretos.8079:

Top EU Lupi killer is French. #soproudbutnotabletodothesame

It’s hard to believe I’ve never met any Kr players so far :/

I’m not french ._.

You have to make sure its a discussion. If you keep posting them in that format they will always get moved. xD

Well if one person doesnt stealth yeah it works. But the problem with that is you get 5 cannon barrages firing at one person. Which is kind of /awkward seeing as they then have to run around the whole area to avoid it. Which will most likely cause some cannon fire to land on those stealthed peeps. Atleast thats the problem we ran into when we were first getting used to that fractal. Either the one kiter got overwhelmed or pulled cannon fire onto the stealthed people or we all stealthed and Mai reset to full hp during the barrage. So now we just spread out and have war banners incase someone slips up.

This is also why when we have a thief i tell them not to stealth themselves during barrage because it means the cannon fire that would target them focuses on someone else, giving them a harder time.

I thought she reset when you stealthed. Or did they fix that?

They will always moan about stupid things. It simply comes from them being ignorant about the game they play. Many of the things players want are already pretty important and widely used my meta groups.

Particle effects do need to be toned down. Its a huge pain in the kitten on mossman when the guardian uses f1. Same goes for other small/human sized bosses. But also guardian f1 is over the top on any boss, its probably the worst culprit for over cluttering the screen with particle effects. Plenty of other abilities need toning down aswell though.

IrisTheCasual.3742:

Agony.3542:

Just give all PvE mobs permanent retaliation.
El’sploit fixed.

Actually it’s a good idea. It makes boon-removing classes become highly sought after in dungeons.

Not if its perma insta reapply.

Yeah guardians are by no means needed for a smooth run. But they do make things ridiculously easy when you have 1 or 2 really good guardians.

o.o

Scepter torch guard. What has been seen cannot be unseen.

To answer question if this post is serious, Ele is better.

maxinion.8396:

Spoj The Second.7680:

Well i bet people cringe when they see me join an instance on my necro. I always have signet of locust slotted for running around vigil keep or w/e.

Shouldnt judge on movement signets when people first enter!

That’s just them cringing when they see a necro in general, Spoj.

dodge rolls away from retaliation

Knew it was coming. Was in deathshroud to absorb the blow.

You cant fix it without completely reworking the guardian or buffing the group defense of all other classes considerably. You can design encounters with less reflects in mind and allow blinds, weakness, chill to have more effect so other classes are much more effective in group defense, but guardians would still be the king of defense in pve.

Either way its a balance issue and not a fractal issue. But i suppose you could ask for less reflect heavy encounters at the least, which is fair enough.

If you look at it from a pure sustain perspective. Thief signet of malice is vastly superior to necros lifesteal. They dont have to trait for it, necros do. Also they have a cleave weapon so they can get triple the burst heal with pistol whip. I honestly dont understand why they havent buffed lifesteal (atleast the heal portion) when thief can full heal by using one pistol whip which has no cooldown and also gives them evade while doing it.

To put it into perspective (ignoring underwater weapons):

Finishers:
Warrior – 35
Ranger – 27
Engineer – 25
Elementalist – 23
Thief – 18
Mesmer – 10
Guardian – 7
Necromancer – 6 (2 are minion auto attacks, 2 on staff, 2 on minion actives)

Fields:
Elementalist – 12
Guardian – 11
Engineer – 10
Ranger – 8
Necromancer – 8
Mesmer – 6
Thief – 4
Warrior – 1

Total fields and finishers (excluding underwater):
Warrior – 36
Ranger – 35
Engineer – 35
Elementalist – 35
Thief – 22
Guardian – 18
Mesmer – 16
Necromancer – 14

Purely from a numbers perspective necro is right at the bottom. When you take into account how inaccessible the finishers are it gets even worse and then when you consider our fields; 4 dark, 2 poison, 1 light and 1 ethereal. All pretty undesirable fields. And all our combos are on utilities except for the 3 on one weapon (staff). Other classes with few combos have much better access, much better fields/combo’s or have them much more spread out. We have them all squashed into once place and very inaccessible. So yes, I definately think necro needs some rework with combos.

LordByron.8369:

I know but since balancing guardians for PvE is not even Worth asking at least i’d like fractal to be adjusted to not have those mandatory.

For me its the first priority since it really cause lot of groups to not even starting…..

Waited 2 hours to find a lvl 49-50 (pug) Group Yesterday…all disbanded becuase it seems no gaurdians were online.

Its a balance issue. Not a fractal issue. Theres not much point bring it up here.