Guild Wars 2

I’ll even give you engi (once again I don’t agree) but thief! Thieves are highest single target dps with perms blinds and stealth. Why on earth would some not want this in there group. Boggles my mind.

So last night I seen a lvl 22 fractal group listed and it said no engis or thief. Now I’m used to the no necro or ranger posts (even though I don’t agree) but why on earth would a group not want an engi or thief. Any class is bad when played by a bad player but both of these classes are great when used correctly. Just thought it was odd is all.

There are plenty of things to do end game. My fav is fractals. There is a gear grind here kind of similar to wow going for full ascended gear. It’s just more time/rng gated. PVP is fun IMO and you always have wvw and world bosses aka raids. Some people don’t like gw2 end game I for one find it refreshingly laid back.

I’ll look you up in game. I play around 10:30pm est. I’m not sure what lvl you are but I can run you through some dungeons and answer any questions you may have.

In eq2 they have both open and instances dungeons. Actually they started instances dungeon in eq1. They both work fine. You don’t have to worry about trains because mobs would leash back after a point. You would have to worry about camp stealing and DR though. I would be very excited if they were to open up some of these in GW2. The more options in pve the better IMO.

Eq1 and probably Eq2 more effectively had/has open world dungeons and it works fine. It’s more of camping bosses in certain areas of the dungeon while being respectful of others doing the same. If you could add a few of these to each of the zone it could be spread out enough to not be over crowded. It has been done before so it can be done again easily.

Tarnished coast is a great server but usually full. Just look for a high pop server and you’ll be fine. As the post before me said servers don’t matter much anymore besides wvw. With the addition of the group finder you can easily q up for any dungeon or fractal and it fills up fast. Now all pugs aren’t created equal of course but as you are returning I’m sure you’re not ready for speed runs anyway. Good luck and welcome back!

Deified.7520:

Ok so the community that does dungeons is apparently so small that they don’t have any plans/projects in the works and who can blame them? LFG is dead and never used now a days. Most people who do dungeons with me or that I know only seem to do them with guildies. Twitch streams that involve PvE are dead most of the time.

A increase in competitiveness could do the game mode a load of good things. It could increase stream views when players watch the “top” PvErs, could increase the desire of the playerbase to get into dungeons. Even if they do have ascended gear and legendary items.

This thing about dungeons/fractals is absolutely false. Lfg is not dead at all. Every night I log in I run a fractal then do spvp. It usually takes me about 3 minutes tops to fill my group or I join another in the same time frame. Now I understand that the dungeon community might be a smaller percentage of the game population but saying it is dead is either a lie or just ignorance. Keep in mind I always pug as well I don’t have a guild that does dungeons.

Ahh gotcha

/15char

Why would ideally war and guard stay in top tier and engi ranger stay mid tier? Isn’t that already the case? Just wondering your reasoning.

So since it’s pretty much the same list from all responders with a few exceptions. What do you think this list will look like after the update? Any different?

I was talking of people knowing what they’re doing. Just seems most that I’ve seen in pve. I love them hence why I have one. Just an observation. Keep them coming interested to see if anyone has a off that chart list opinion.

Interesting to see thieves as high as they are coming in. I love my thief but whenever I’m in a group on a different toon I hear peeps complaining about them in pve about being to squishy and people not knowing how to play them.

So in order I’m interested to see how the forum community would list the classes in order they want in there dungeon runs. All classes are built in the current meta so list just according to the class itself.

Guardian
Warrior
Ele
Mesmer
Engi
Ranger
Thief
Necro

I could probably swap Mesmer and engi but that’s my opinion.

Kahrgan.7401:

Power necro all the way.

6/3/0/5/0 is what I run. Triple wells. Dagger/focus, flashing DS when up.

You are basically a god with the siphons from crits, hits, and dagger 2.

No one is questioning there survivability. They’re explaining the selfish nature of the class. Without any group support all we bring is dps and others do it better. I just hope they fix it soon.

Yeah it has been a known issues for so long is my only concern. With other classes being brought up to par while the lowly necro stays the step child.

So I was messing around on my necro the other day and forgot how much I loved this class. It was my first 80 and still my favorite by a long shot. Now as I’m pretty much just a dungeon fractal runner and I enjoy being useful I have to use a different class. I don’t understand why anet won’t do something about this. They’re countless threads asking for change and or giving very good ideas how to change. I’ve seen my engi and ranger become very helpful additions to any group why my poor necro stays at the end of the line. Ohh well figured I’d get that off my chest, I just don’t understand!

Camping longbow on a ranger is bad I’m dungeons but on that fight I see no problem using longbow. I use longbow and S/W. Staying alive on some fights is more important then max dps. You did nothing wrong IMO.

Yeah for 80 gold you should be able to buy a full set of exotic gear weapons and trinkets. As for dungeons do all the story modes first to get a feel for how they work. I personally love fractals and you can work on ascended rings doing those and save your laurels for accessories or amulet. Good luck to you.

Yeah I have no interest in leveling a guard or war. I have both classes in the mid 40s and don’t like the play style. I’d go with thief but like I said in post 30 fractals I die so fast. I think I’ll stick with my engi. He is personal lvl 36 in fractals so far.

Yeah I feel your pain! Guardians and wars seemed to be the overall favs.

I understand they’re are fine. I enjoy all of the classes I play but would give a very small edge to the ranger. I didn’t ask which was more viable because I know other classes do most things better. I was just wondering which our community would prefer in there group. The reason I gave him the canned response was as I said all his classes are “meta” classes where mine are not.

Well if you’re asking me personally I’ll give you the one you enjoy most answer. Only because all of those classes are loved to have in groups. Where as engi necro rangers are not.

Thanks for all the responses. So seems the community would prefer an engi out of the two in a group setting.
I do enjoy my thief as well but I get owned in high lvl fractals on him so left him out of the choices lol.

I should of added they’re on two sepperate accounts so that isn’t an option. Otherwise I’d just play both.

I’ve tossed up the usefullness thing of both. Kind of at a crossroads of the engi group heals vuln stacking cc and dps and the ranger heals spotter frost spirit and dps. kitten this game for making me think.

So I have an 80 necro, thief, engi, and ranger. I’m looking to main one to go for full ascended legendary etc … My question to you all is which would you prefer in your group. I know some will say roll a heavy but I don’t like those so please keep those comments to a minimum.
I probably enjoy the ranger the most with engi being a close second. So to narrow it down to those two. I mainly do fractals and a few dungeon runs with a bit of spvp. So if you had to choose engi or ranger to join you on an adventure which would you pick. Thanks.

Like I said, use what is fun for you. I use FT sometimes to mix it up. All I was saying is the build isn’t dungeon friendly for the rest of the group.

Of course it can be played. Any class with any build can be played. But being helpful to the team is important in my opinion and FT builds just aren’t. BK vuln stacking cc regen and dps is what our class brings to the table. Camping FT does none of that. But with that all said play what you enjoy ????

We get a bad name because people use FT in dungeons and fractals. It is hands down our worst dps kit and has no use in dungeon runs. For open world or PVP use whatever you like but do us and your group a favor and don’t use FT in a dungeon setting.

Ok. I did not know all of these things. Thank you for thieving 101

Thanks for the response. Why is p/p so bad? Its good burst dmg for when I need to be ranged. With ricochet it is good aoe DPS. I know it isn’t much on utility but as a thief I always kind of think all I’m bring is stealth and raw DPS.

Maybe I’m just bad at my thief but I’m having a rough go at lvl 30+ fractals. I do play zerk on all my toons but no issues on my engi or ranger in the 30s tier on them. I use a d/d p/p build. Fractals like clifside where you stack between the fire I’m basicly perma downed and shaman with the fire condi and immobilized forget about it. Any advice?

You are a persistent little guy!

Hey, I’m looking for an active guild. I have 4 lvl 80s on a few accounts. My fam used to play but not anymore so looking to make some new friends. I’m on TC server but wouldn’t mind a xfer if it works out. I usually don’t log in till around 10:30 pm est. I’m not sure if you’re active that late. Let me know if I may be a good fit. Thanks!

I’m not sure if the op is talking of pve or PvP but you’re incorrect either way. Ranger brings a ton of support in a group setting in pve and does great DPS with sw/x. They’re are a ton of effective PvP builds as well one being a spirit ranger.
I have an 80 necro and it is in a bad place as a class all around. This seems like much more a l2p issue then a balance issue.

I found it to be a good bit of fun. Did two runs of Boss Blitz.

Yeah I’ve used that set up before. I’m looking for a set up with wrench eg though. I have a build that I’m using that is putting up good numbers in pve just seeing if I’m missing anything.

Anyone use these two weapons together? They are hands down my two faves. I use a rifle for ranged needs but I love the support of eg when needed. Just seeing if I missed some awesome build

We don’t have buffs our teammates? You mean besides spotter frost spirit and perma swiftness might and fury?

No bearbow is the term for a longbow ranger using a bear. This brings nothing to the group in a dungeon and does awful DPS. You’re to far away from the group to give and receive and give group buff and the bear is the worst DPS pet.

Rangers are great for pve and probably the most used class in open world pve. In dungeons they get a bad rap because of the bearbow mentality. You can’t help your group if you on the other side of the room shooting your longbow. Get a melee weapon and a short bow and you’ll do just fine in dungeons. Rangers have great tools to help the team and boost dps.

Hello, I have an 80 ranger. He is in all exotic with three ascended items. Ive been doing a lot of fractals lately. Im looking for an active guild but am by no means a pro of running dungeons. I run a hybrid build of rampagers/zerk with scholor runes. Im not sure if your have rangers since I know we are the step child of gw2, but if so Id love to find an active community. Thannks.

I’d love to join. I’m mainly a pver but wouldnt mind doing some pvp/wvw. I’m personal lvl 29 in fractals but dont mind running lower if needed. I also have an 80 necro because I love playing the hated classes in mmos! Hit me up with an invite if yoi find the time, thanks.

And in no way would I ever bring bearbow to a dungeon or fractal run that is pure madness!

I’m more of an axe/warhorn and short bow ranger but I do run those and stay in range to get and receive group buffs. Thanks for the input.

Even with spotter frost spirit healing spring and war horn boons?

My necro is lvl 39 in fractal and almost complete with dungeon master. My ranger is probably going to hit 80 tonight. I want to main one for pve. So my question is if you had a group which would you rather have in it? I know neither class is the optimal choice but they are the ones I enjoy most. It seems to me ranger brings a lot more to the table for team play. What’s your opinions?

I’m lvl 39 in fractals. I’ve done almost all dungeon paths. I use a hybrid build more leaning toward power. I run axe/focus and staff. I can stack vulnerability and keep up perma regen and protection. Do decent dps with great survivability. We’re not the most optimal class but we get the job done. If you enjoy playing necro and aren’t in heavy speed groups you will do just fine.

To be honest I’d like to join a guild on the TC server. I’m not looking for uber speed runs or anything either. Just a group of active dungeon/fractal looking people.