Guild Wars 2

Cat Has Ducks.1982:

Oh now I see it. A pug left before the fight since you refused to use it. Got ya. Honestly I don’t care, since I don’t die in there.(well sometimes a bubble catches me when my teammates don’t know the mechanic)

That’s a bold kittening claim guy.

Saulius.8430:

i see that as initiative to stay alive, and improve

every time i die, while someone else is in combat i have time to cool down and think what i could have done better:

• i should have disengaged sooner
• i shouldn’t have engaged at all
• i should have kept my distance while evades/blocks/invulnerabilities on couldown
• i should have waited for others
• i should have changed utilities (additional stunbreaker, while skipping trash)
• i shouldn’t have dodged too early
• etc etc

Pretty much this. In all games you are punished for dying. The punishment for death in gw2 is actually quite low compared to alot of other games considering any one of your teammates can res you at any time. If anything I’d like this game to be a bit more unforgiving when you die so that pugs don’t feel like yelling at everyone else for not ressing when they die again and again.

Black Box.9312:

I think the only thing that makes me more sad than people who skip Kholer are people who have to stack and LoS him.

These groups don’t “have to” pull and los him. They do it because it’s faster. The idea of doing something slower just for the hell of it is what’s sad to me. Not because you actually waste time by doing so, but because if you are not striving to do things as well as they can be done then what’s the point. Most people don’t enjoy just doing things, they want to be good at them and do them efficiently, which in this case entails stacking up, stacking might, los’ing and killing him as fast as possible.

tAzz.8497:

I join solo runners in arah p1 daily for the tar boss. I get 1 gold , boss killed u know the drill. I do this like 5 6 times a day, so after a few days i was asking myself : man am i that lazy? all these ppl can solo Lupi , i need to solo it one day ( ive tried 3 4 times failed and didnt try again ). I felt like a scrub.

But on topic, after the solo guy pays 2 players, many times ive had to wait for the 5 mins delay on mail or how long is it. Guess what the solo guys do: they dont go left to Lupi they go right side , yea thats right they skip Lupi.
Now i couldnt care less , i still get my gold, but cmon some guys rly know how to play the game, they solo stuff for almost 1 year now , when most of the players didnt even know how to make a proper build. And now all these punks are exploting and i feel its not fair. If u are that awesome solo runner go kill the kitten mob dont jump walls to get the reward.

And about exploiting , that dude Kripparrian got banned for the video on yt where he explained the karma deal or ghost pepper what was it i dont even care, it was a stupid ban. But Anet said the ban was for showing the “exploit” to other players by posting on yt.
Now how is that different than the ppl “teaching” obvious exploits in arah runs ? or using the exploits by skipping Lupi so they can make some easy gold in 20 min ? I guess Lupicus is there by mistake , then REMOVE IT.

PS: ofc some trolls here gonna hate , how could they not, this is about the gold they make by exploiting

No one is going to hate, we all agree with you (for the most part). Those who skip lupicus and use exploits should be banned. The bigger point is, most of the sellers, including all the ones on this forum don’t use exploits. We kill lupicus (why in god’s name wouldn’t we, he is the only fun boss in this game) and all the other bosses, people join and pay and then finish the last boss. It doesn’t hurt anyone else. It doesn’t deprive any other player out there of anything. It is a victimless not-crime. It’s like saying that using the trading post to sell an item is an exploit because the person buying it should be farming for it with me.

“Stop playing how you want so I can play how I want!”

runeblade.7514:

• Stacking to be gone forever and be considered an exploit. It exploits the dumb AI trivialize dungeons.
• Mob AI to be redesigned so that Boon stripping, interrupting, snares, and projectiles to be useful.

Why wouldn’t people stack? The closer you are to the rest of your party the easier it is to share boons and combo fields… Why in god’s name would that be considered an exploit? Also how does it trivialize dungeons… I’m really not understanding how stacking is that big of a deal. These aren’t rhetorical question, please answer so I can try to understand your thought process.

This is such a ridiculously major issue it should be anet’s first priority. Dodging is such a big part of this game, it is insane that it just kinda doesn’t work sometimes. Really the only way to avoid it is to not use whirl skills when you are anticipating a dodge and always dodge>whirlwind. Also you can whirlwind > swap > dodge. But yeah I’m glad they’re aware of this issue, now we play the waiting game.

So instead of helping them gather evidence (which is of course required if they are going to mass ban people) you get on their case and start making demands for your personal benefit. Burn in hell you selfish scumbag

Malediktus.9250:

I still demand that these exploits which have been known for month to be fixed and the exploiters to be punished.

When did people get so entitled? When did it become everybody else’s responsibility to make your life a tiny bit less stressful by majorly inconveniencing themselves? Honestly dude, who the kitten do you even think you are, god? You offer no evidence, only speculation and “demand” that thy will be done. I actually hate you, like deep down I legitimately hate you from one human being to the other.

That’s a good build. I generally try to use 10-25-0-0-25 at the very least and I often switch around the last 10 points between 5-10 in honor or 5 in each radiance and virtues. Your major traits should be II for zeal, VI and X for radiance, XI if you put 30 in there, I VI/IX for virtues, all 3 if you put 30 there. I often start off on greatsword and use my burst (4,3,2,5) then swap to sword/focus, apply vulnerability with 2 and 4 if needed, blast the fire field with 5 and autoattack and I rarely switch back to greatsword. Wall of reflection is useful in arah almost at all times, in coe i never equip it although shield of the avenger is nice for the golem boss. You’ll just have to get more experience throughout the dungeons to see where it’s useful. Everyone starts somewhere and if your guild doesn’t accept that then maybe you will have to move on. Assassin’s armor should really only be used in solo play, when you’re in a 5 man team (especially with right hand strength) you should be using berserker’s with scholar runes.

Cat Has Ducks.1982:

Anicetus.1253:

Doing this without any requires some play with his AI to be safe.all.

In what regards? I melee and solo lupi. The way I do it may be a bit noobish. I just react to his movements and go about my business. But what are the finer points in regards to playing with his AI?

Sometimes he goes balls deep in phase 3 and you simply don’t have enough dodges without at least one energy sigil. I use two energy sigils always unless I’m pushing for a record which I don’t do anymore. Also if you’re going just one energy imo it’s best to put it on your focus/sword

Well to be fair, I am not safe when I use mine. Even if they are up preemptively I regularly take 1-2 projectiles each time because they land outside the wall but the aoe hits me.

We want more lupicus and less ginva the butcher. Bosses without ridiculous autoattack damage, that have a large number of skills all of which create a very stressful but manageable battle.

Harrahou.4518:

I was wondering that build was Odd! Was a good solo. Assassin’s armour? I don’t run the numbers I do what I’m told.

10/25/0/25/10 should be used on all casual lupicus solo attempts imo. Unscathed is only for record pushes… avoiding every locust bite is difficult and using f3 and renewed focus as offensive skills can create some issues.

You posted the wrong build. And grats.

Yo Marc.

Maybe.

Luke.2643:

viciouspike.8624:

I definitely need to learn to do this. It looks like so much fun…

It actually was for me, thief and ele are the classes I like to play the most at lupi :=)

Anicetus.1253:

Ever thought about doing a condi solo? With 25 stacks of bleed and poison that should go quite fast.

It could be an interesting variation, but first I’m going to wait for the 2nd ascended dagger (those 4 power and 3 precision can change everything) and try to shave off those 20-30 sec.

The change in weapon strength is beyond significant.

Harrahou.4518:

Anicetus.1253:

Sanderinoa.8065:

Anicetus.1253:

Yeah, good in theory, didn’t really work out in praxis

actually it did, didnt you see dat sxy p3 warden?

Would have had that anyway

Wheres your 4:56 anything solo

You may have just said that to the wrong person :P oh and very nice sandy i watched it and you capitalized on every situation perfectly, very impressive

If you are playing solo assassin’s would work quite well since you don’t have fury/banner of discipline or any other party buffs and your crit chance would be quite low with berserker’s. But of course berserker would work, I’ve been able to get brie to 50% on a mesmer with berserker armor just shatter alot and hope for the best.

Ok seriously, stop saying that guys. Anyone who is trying to learn should NOT be learning without energy sigils. The only people who should be running without energy sigils are the ones who are well aware that they are not a necessity. It is serving of no benefit aside from an attempt to display your knowledge or just to brag. When learning to melee lupi you should be taking every precaution available, it will take you weeks to learn and probably a couple days just to be able to consistently pass phase 1 and there is no reason to gimmp yourself.

Again I will repeat, anyone who can benefit from not using energy sigils in their runs knows quite well that they are not a necessity. So stahp.

At 130 range you are golden and you can move all you want into him because if you move him he won’t walk further than 130 away from you. The problem is if you have a team and you move him, they get domed because now they’re further than 130.

I will make a video of me kiting around him in phase 3 and the second I step out of range he will dome my kitten . It definitely is all about placement and not about movement. Oh and also, to whoever said you should be inside his red circle you couldn’t be more wrong. In any 5 man group you will push him away and get your whole party domed. But at least you can blame them for failing.

Dub you should make it clear that no energy sigils on guardian is only for very solid 5 man teams or record push solos.

obal.3218:

Syn Sity.5826:

The Mexican Cookie.3690:

Syn Sity.5826:

Chopps.5047:

Definitely the highlight of the patch haha so funny you managed to pull it off

No, the fact that whirlwind now causes fumble dodges was the highlight of the patch. Anet, ruining guild wars one patch at a time.

Seriously? That doesn’t even make sense lol, haven’t even played my warrior enough to realize

an evade fumbling an evade, anet pls.

Well like, I use ww > dodge for single target lifesteal. That is no longer viable as your dodge after the whirlwind will fumble.

I noticed that too as I got lupi down to 5-20% several times yesterday but got worn down or killed after ww then “dodge” against life steal or the big circle. I finally just accepted how broken the game is with dodging and how clicking F on recycled content is more important than fixing big problems and dealt with it by finishing lupi off on warrior finally.

I don’t remember ww being such a pain like this other than auto attack taking priority over ww going off so this seems like it’s true.

http://youtu.be/vgFYyU3Mo2A
WW -> “dodge” bug 4x at least
4:20
5:20
6:25
7:40

Yeah I’ve always had fumble dodges on whirling wrath, binding blade and cyclone axe (all whirl finishers) so I guess whirlwind just finally caught up and this will be a permanent problem that we will all have to deal with. Yay.

The Mexican Cookie.3690:

Syn Sity.5826:

Chopps.5047:

Definitely the highlight of the patch haha so funny you managed to pull it off

No, the fact that whirlwind now causes fumble dodges was the highlight of the patch. Anet, ruining guild wars one patch at a time.

Seriously? That doesn’t even make sense lol, haven’t even played my warrior enough to realize

an evade fumbling an evade, anet pls.

Well like, I use ww > dodge for single target lifesteal. That is no longer viable as your dodge after the whirlwind will fumble.

Chopps.5047:

Definitely the highlight of the patch haha so funny you managed to pull it off

No, the fact that whirlwind now causes fumble dodges was the highlight of the patch. Anet, ruining guild wars one patch at a time.

Combined with extra vuln from the rest of your party, maintaining 25 shouldn’t be an issue. 10% condition duration isn’t even remotely worth dropping all the damage from berserker’s armor. Do NOT use giver’s.

lunyboy.8672:

Ethics.4519:

lunyboy.8672:

Ethics.4519:

lunyboy.8672:

Ethics.4519:

lunyboy.8672:

If you are telling parties what to do over and over again and they are NOT LISTENING, and then posting on the forum how rude and obnoxious the zerkz are, perhaps it’s not the pugs that’s the problem.

I see this opposite. I would say “perhaps it’s not the zerk party that’s the problem”

I guess you would see it that way. Maybe that’s part of the problem.

We can do a back and forth all day, but that will help nothing. There are two scenarios

1) The zerker party is rude. They yell at the 1500 range ranger and tell him to melee. He says he only uses bows, so they call him a BHB and kick him.

2) An efficient group that may or may not be zerk. They say “Hey, do you mind stacking over here and getting a sword. You’re pulling the boss” So the ranger replies “I play how I want” Then he finishes the dungeon and comes on the forums to complain about how elitist zerk parites are.

I see the 2nd one more often than the first.

My guild pulls pugs all the time, and we have only ever kicked one guy after 100s of runs.

One. Mostly for being rude.

We ask nicely, and people are so happy to have the help understanding the mechanics or better ways of doing things, they happily oblige and thank us for the fast run and the help.

But I also don’t talk down to people about their builds on the forums, or act like mine is the only opinion that matters.

I never said you did. We’re talking about in game.

You gave one example to boost my point, and none to the other.

I believe some people that come in here saying that a zerker was rude to them (they probably joined a speedrun group) but I think it’s safe to say a lot are made up to get their point across.

This entire thread (and 80% of the others in this sub) are full of people talking smack about other people’s builds, and that culture permeates the game.

I won’t defend their choices in the current meta, but having everyone harass them about their “terrible” Gear, Traits, Weapons, and utilities isn’t going to bring everyone up to your standards.

The people here moan and complain about how all the “bads” don’t listen, when it’s pretty clear that most people wouldn’t listen to them even if they are correct, simply because they are Dismissive, Condescending, and Rude.

Just because people agree with you doesn’t mean that you are right, and this culture of “the cool kids speed runners club” is creating a very adversarial attitude in both the people who listen to the elitists, and the people who don’t like their superiority complex. Making this particular group their own worst enemy, and rendering them incapable of anything but making fun of people struggling to understand a game that is very different from other MMOs.

At least some of you have made easily found videos about builds and traits for certain professions, but in reality, some of the people that come here to the dungeon forums do so ONLY to make fun of others that come here to ask legitimate questions. I mean, if you are so bored with the game that you have to troll the forums, go play something else and leave the community more positive and helpful than it is with you in it.

As I (and many others on this subforum) have said over and over, if you want to run a useless build in your own groups that’s fine. Just don’t join speedrun groups and DON’T go around preaching about how good the build is just because you don’t care about being optimal. Nothing frustrates me more than someone saying “I don’t care about optimizing I just like to have fun and bla bla, but my build still works REALLY well with my own playstyle and I do very well in dungeons”.

Run your crappy build all you want but don’t go around saying it’s such a great build because all that matters to you is completing the dungeon. Oh, and don’t even say the words “cookie” and “cutter” in the same sentence.

Dromar.1027:

Thread is moot imo.

Assuming player has moderate intelligence, Motivation + Time = Player Skill. If you have the drive and time you can solo dungeon paths if you want. In the end if your at the point of boredom to solo dungeons it’s probably time to look for another game unless your boosting a massive ego.

Some people prefer to play on their own schedule and at their own pace. “People who jog alone really need to find a new place to live”.

Casmurro.9046:

Harrahou.4518:

a t s e.9614:

Nice job , i tought it was impossible on necro but looks
Like its not .

A t s e, please stop visiting these forums….every post your make is so…just so….

Appearently the [LOD] guild is the owner of the dungeon’s forum. The rest of us need to get their permission to post here. They and a couple of other guilds are the only ones allowed to post bullkitten in this forum.

It’s good that we’re on the same page.

Where do these people come from lol

I told you NOT to finish it!!!!!! But i do remember the time you’re talking about and you’re right about that time :P

AntiGw.9367:

Lord Kuru.3685:

For those who refuse to skip: do you also need to kill all your opponent’s pieces in chess before going for the king?

Chess is not about killing pieces, it’s about controlling the board. If you go for the king without controlling the board, then yes you need to take pretty much every single one of his pieces. Otherwise they’ll take your king instead.

Your analogy is silly because in dungeons you don’t control any of the areas that you skip, and you also don’t kill anything. You run into a dungeon, and magically pass through the entire army that defends it as if it wasn’t even there. Then proceed to kill the final boss, while the entire army that you just skipped magically forgets about you and goes about their business.

That means that you are taking advantage of bad AI and poor game mechanics, so don’t bother make idiotic excuses. Either the dungeon mechanics need to be improved, or the mobs should be unskippable. Until the dev schedule schedule allows them to address that, they temporarily let cheesers cheese. But it doesn’t make it any less cheesy.

" If you go for the king without controlling the board, then yes you need to take pretty much every single one of his pieces. Otherwise they’ll take your king instead."

That is the worst sentence I’ve ever read. If you go for the king without controlling the board then you need a quick attack plan. You are pretty much saying if this attack doesn’t work then I will resign. If you tried to surrender the center of the board (the part that it is important to maintain control of) and move with an attack plan in which you take all of your opponent’s pieces (I for one, have no idea how you go about this without having control of said center of the board) you will honestly lose every single chess game you ever play. But I’m assuming you’ve never played a chess game before and just wanted to try to turn someone’s point around on them by hoping that they were clueless as to how the game is played as well. Real shady move bud.

After I read that the first rule was achievement points I stopped reading. Honestly gaunglai, you never run low on idiotic things to say do you? Unless it’s like 500 AP+ then you’re really just putting meaningless limitations on your runs.

Dreamslayer.7659:

Syn Sity.5826:

Dreamslayer.7659:

I agree with Blood Red.

Sometimes people want to do a certain thing, a certain way and there are a few players who think that they are an exception.

We saw this with the Underworld Speed Clears in GW1 and you saw it with the COF P1 speed clears.

I run Fractals 48 almost every night and I can’t remember the last time I saw a gear check request – maybe if someone has very low achievement points or if they die too easily people will ask them, but it’s not like it was a while back.

For some reason UWSC (or any sc in gw1 for that matter) didn’t get the organization hate that speedclears in this game do, I’m not sure why. Maybe because the difference between balanced way and speed clears in gw1 was a difference of many hours and hardly anyone did uw without either speed clearing or solo farming. I did uwsc almost exclusively for like 4 years straight and I don’t think I ever had one person join and demand that he be able to run with us just because. You got the occasional idiot who spoke no english and was on a warrior and just joined until he was kicked, but no one ever actually kittened and moaned about people wanting to do things in an organized manner. It was just a generally accepted principle I guess, let the speedclearers do their thing and if you want to do a casual multi-hour uw run then just try to form your own party. I miss that game and it’s players.

I remember it a bit differently.

At least early on, UWSC was a small community and you got to know the people that were good. When someone you didn’t know wanted to come along, you had to see their build and I remember a fair number of people who wanted to be unique snowflakes and just run a build they slapped together (apparently at random).

There were the “you guys just run cookie cutter builds that anyone can look up, this is my special creation, how do you know it won’t work!?”, etc.

Then there were the people who ran the right build, but couldn’t perform. Perma-stealth Elementalist required extremely good energy management and a thorough understanding of your area as well as how to recover from various problems or cover for other people.

I stopped playing when you had to run candy buffs every 10 minutes to make it work

The special snowflake people always stuck with me because their argument seemed to be that the build is what made people good, but a build was just a tool – almost an instrument and even though the builds were the same, there was a very large envelope for you to push and show what you could do.

Those were my favorite times in Guild Wars….

I think I’m chasing a little bit of that in Fractals – it’s not the same, but it could be something very good with a bit more attention – I’m hoping the upcoming Fractal level brings a lot more updates and rewards.

I suppose that was before my time and by the time I started doing runs it was established, but I’m not really an authority since i quickly found a guild/friends to do runs with and hardly ever ran with pug groups. That’s honestly what I miss most about gw1.

The Mexican Cookie.3690:

Better than when I asked Dub for advice for my solo(s).

“It’s easy, like really”.

Haha classic, I think he told me the same. Then he killed lupi in my practice instance and I had to go make another.

Bright.9160:

Syn Sity.5826:

Dreamslayer.7659:

I agree with Blood Red.

Sometimes people want to do a certain thing, a certain way and there are a few players who think that they are an exception.

We saw this with the Underworld Speed Clears in GW1 and you saw it with the COF P1 speed clears.

I run Fractals 48 almost every night and I can’t remember the last time I saw a gear check request – maybe if someone has very low achievement points or if they die too easily people will ask them, but it’s not like it was a while back.

For some reason UWSC (or any sc in gw1 for that matter) didn’t get the organization hate that speedclears in this game do, I’m not sure why. Maybe because the difference between balanced way and speed clears in gw1 was a difference of many hours and hardly anyone did uw without either speed clearing or solo farming. I did uwsc almost exclusively for like 4 years straight and I don’t think I ever had one person join and demand that he be able to run with us just because. You got the occasional idiot who spoke no english and was on a warrior and just joined until he was kicked, but no one ever actually kittened and moaned about people wanting to do things in an organized manner. It was just a generally accepted principle I guess, let the speedclearers do their thing and if you want to do a casual multi-hour uw run then just try to form your own party. I miss that game and it’s players.

Well, in DoA (my area of expertise), you had the SC and Glaiveway, so you kind of had the segregation anyway, but both sides lived semi-peacefully together. I hated Glaiveway though for the sole reason that Destructive was Glaive was simply overpowered beyond belief. I don’t understand how such a skill could exist, yet elementalists were the worst damage dealers in the entire game.
I think the reason for the symbiosis was that the Glaiveway scrubs strived to be like us, and we looked down upon them for being so terrible and stupid. Oh, and the fact we were raking in money at 6-8 times the rate they were.

But even in Glaiveway, it was ‘run this build or gtfo’. Yes, you had slightly different builds, but it mostly boiled down to that. And most people were fine with that. There was no “I wanna bring a completely useless build on a useless profession and expect you guys to hail me for trying to be terminally unique”.

And especially in the organized SC runs, the builds were set. Yes, again, you had slightly different teambuilds and slightly different bars, but usually, when you went with another guild/were new, you did what you were told. I ran my own preferred builds, but I had enough expertise and people knew that I knew my stuff to be warranted to do so. Especially when running with guilds like [DL], and was told to run Deep Freeze (that was before I insisted on always tanking when running with [DL], unless I knew their tanks were good) for example. But other than that, there was no “I wanna be special and run stupid/detrimental stuff” mentality in GW1, and people were fine with it.

Oh, how I miss the golden days of DoA… Well, nostalgia is a bitter side product of fun…

Yeah that’s the weird part, even the lesser groups of semi balanced way runs still had set builds and tactics that were extremely strict and no one got kitten ed off about being told what to run. You were told to go to PvX wiki, copy the exact build and do your job.

Dreamslayer.7659:

I agree with Blood Red.

Sometimes people want to do a certain thing, a certain way and there are a few players who think that they are an exception.

We saw this with the Underworld Speed Clears in GW1 and you saw it with the COF P1 speed clears.

I run Fractals 48 almost every night and I can’t remember the last time I saw a gear check request – maybe if someone has very low achievement points or if they die too easily people will ask them, but it’s not like it was a while back.

For some reason UWSC (or any sc in gw1 for that matter) didn’t get the organization hate that speedclears in this game do, I’m not sure why. Maybe because the difference between balanced way and speed clears in gw1 was a difference of many hours and hardly anyone did uw without either speed clearing or solo farming. I did uwsc almost exclusively for like 4 years straight and I don’t think I ever had one person join and demand that he be able to run with us just because. You got the occasional idiot who spoke no english and was on a warrior and just joined until he was kicked, but no one ever actually kittened and moaned about people wanting to do things in an organized manner. It was just a generally accepted principle I guess, let the speedclearers do their thing and if you want to do a casual multi-hour uw run then just try to form your own party. I miss that game and it’s players.

:(

Agreed, ranger is probably your best bet. The extra 5% damage is nice from scholar’s but the permanent 5% from ranger runes is just so reliable and precision is more important for reflects (difference between 165 power and precision is huge) which is the main reason I use them. I’d say eagle would be a good choice if/when ranger runes get fixed.

Thanks Guy.

I don’t really understand the argument anymore. There have been two dev responses, one even a wall of text from Hrouda himself explicitly stating that skipping mobs is a legitimate tactic and more important that non-skippers should band together to play the way they want. This implies that non-skippers are the minority. If there is one thing I have learned from anet it is that the way the game is SUPPOSED to be played is the way that the majority plays it. So with all that said, how do you even have the balls to come on this forum and tell us we’re wrong and that skipping isn’t how the game “should be played”. Why is it that you feel your ideals are more important than anet’s?

There is a tell for rapidfire and I’m sure in time you will be able to predict them right before they happen the majority of the time. He kind of loses focus for a second and when he turns toward you then you know it’s coming.

I usually just kill the trash so you don’t have to deal with it everytime you run back, especially since you’ll be spending many hours running back after phase 1 fails when you’re learning. On a guardian you should have no issues whatsoever killing the trash between the abom and lupicus.

You are seriously overestimating the value of reflects for phase 2 aoe. They are ground targetted projectiles. You often get lucky and they reflect right off you, but if they were to hit next to you then you won’t prevent them. According to wiki the reflection radius should be 225 but apparently that isn’t enough.

Bright.9160:

Wukunlin.8461:

was there so much whining about people doing speedclears in gw1?

It was different in GW1. Of all the whining I heard back then, I never heard people say “you’re not playing the game” or “stacking mobs/using pull techniques is exploiting”.

It mostly boiled down to “Shadow Form is OP”, which was true, but most of them added some crappy arguments here and there, and insisted on Shadow Form being nerfed, which wouldn’t solve anything. Especially seeing how Shadow Form wasn’t the skill that made speedclears so easy. It was Shroud of Distress. (Shadow Form made you immune to spells after a bunch of nerfs -it used to make you immune to all damage-, and Shroud of Distress gave you a bazillion regen when you dropped below 50% hp.)

Actually it was the 75% chance to block when you were below 50% health and it’s ease of maintainability that made it so op. It’s synergy with shadow form was incredible.

I agree, in most cases you can swap out a perception sigil for a bloodlust and use ranger runes for a permanent 5% damage mod.

Rune of the Ranger

I don’t think that new players should have to learn things on their own but I also don’t think that it is the veteran player’s responsibility to go out of their way to teach them. If new players want to learn they have to take initiative and makes attempts to reach out and meet new people and be more open to ideas.

I often use Slices of Candied Dragon Roll for casual runs but if I am trying to go for speed then i would use sweet and spicy/curry butternut squash soup.